[Orgmode] Re: Interpretation of priorities in org-mode

2007-08-01 Thread Stephan Schmitt

Hello,

I think there are two possible interpretations of 'priority', /importance/ and 
/urgency/.


It is up to the user which is preferred.  You propose the interpretation as 
urgency: I have to do that thing today/this week/sometime.  Importance may 
come into play with your daily decision, what to do next.  The advantage of this 
approach is the better quantifiability of 'urgency'.


At the moment in org-mode you have to opt for one interpretation.  But with the 
fresh and cool property feature in org-mode it should be possible to incorporate 
both aspects together.  Somehow.


Just a thought, though.

Greetings,
Stephan

Piotr Zielinski wrote:

Hi.

I'd like to find out how different people use priorities (#A, #B, ...)
in org-mode.  I've always assumed the standard interpretation (#A =
high priority, #B = medium, #C = low).  However, the problem with this
approach is that what high priority means is not well defined, and
if you are not careful, then all your items will quickly become high
priority, which defeats the whole point.

I've been recently experimenting with a different interpretation of
priorities: #B = tasks to do today, #C = tasks to do this week, #D =
all the rest, default.  #A is reserved at the moment.  One good thing
about this system is a clearer interpretation of priorities.  Another is
that it separates the action of inserting new items into your todo
list and that of assigning a particular priority to them.  In
particular, at the beginning of each day, you can look at your list of
todos/deadlines/scheduled, and pick a few to complete on that day by
giving them the #B priority.  At any time of the day, the agenda will
show you these #B items clearly separated from the rest.  Previously,
I had to do a mental rescanning of the agenda items each time I
was wondering what do I have to do now, which was rather stressful.

Of course, I've tried this only for a couple of days, so my
conclusions might be completely bogus.  Maybe there is a better way
than priorities to mark items as to complete today.  I'd definitely
like to know what others think about it.



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[Orgmode] iCalendar export does not honor the ' org-agenda-default-appointment-duration' setting (v5.04)

2007-08-01 Thread Anupam Sengupta
Hi,

I have set the default appointment duration for the events with only a start
date/time to be 60 mins. This works perfectly well in the Agenda view;
however, the iCalendar exported events still use 2 hours as the duration for
the event.

The function which is causing this seems to be 'org-ical-ts-to-string' whose
doc. String clearly mentions that 2 hours are added.  Can this duration be
based on the 'org-agenda-default-appointment-duration' if that variable is
set?

Thanks!
Anupam




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Re: [Orgmode] Integration of Org mode and mairix

2007-08-01 Thread Jason F. McBrayer
Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Xiao-Yong Jin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Probably it's the time for us to think of a universal way to support
 system dependent 3rd party index tools. Mairix may not be the only
 search tool people want to use with org-mode, though it is my
 favourite and only index tool I use for now.

 Please see (and comment) my suggestion here:

   http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2563

I think that's basically right, though in the case of email search,
probably the best thing would be making nnir work right (and provide
nnir with a mairix backend).  nnir is supposed to provide a layer of
indirection between mail indexers and gnus, which should be enough for
org-mode needs.

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Re: [Orgmode] Interpretation of priorities in org-mode

2007-08-01 Thread Jason F. McBrayer
Piotr Zielinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'd like to find out how different people use priorities (#A, #B, ...)
 in org-mode.  I've always assumed the standard interpretation (#A =
 high priority, #B = medium, #C = low).  However, the problem with this
 approach is that what high priority means is not well defined, and
 if you are not careful, then all your items will quickly become high
 priority, which defeats the whole point.

I don't really use priorities at all, since I'm using org-mode to do
GTD.  If something has to be done today, then that's a deadline, not a
priority.  If I don't need or want to get something done /in the next
week/, it probably shouldn't be crowding up my todo-lists at all, and
making it harder for me to find things I should be doing; it should be
on my someday/maybe list.

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[Orgmode] Re: Interpretation of priorities in org-mode

2007-08-01 Thread Renzo Been
Hi,

Maybe I'm not that smart here...

But what is actually the difference between using:
*priorities

and:
*Using tags

You could make tags like this:
Urgent
Tomorow
Low

etc...

Ciao,
Renzo


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Interpretation of priorities in org-mode

2007-08-01 Thread Piotr Zielinski
On 01/08/07, Renzo Been [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 But what is actually the difference between using:
 *priorities

 and:
 *Using tags

That's a very good point.  The reason why I decided to use priorities
was because it was easier to make them work with org-agenda.  In
particular, I don't know how to make the agenda display, for example,
all headlines without the :today: tag in the order of increasing
deadlines.  If this is possible, I'll happily switch to tags.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Piotr


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Re: [Orgmode] Interpretation of priorities in org-mode

2007-08-01 Thread Piotr Zielinski
On 01/08/07, Jason F. McBrayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't really use priorities at all, since I'm using org-mode to do
 GTD.

I agree with you on that, I was only suggesting using priorities as a
technical means to label certain tasks as to do today in a way which
is easy in org-mode.

 If something has to be done today, then that's a deadline, not a
 priority.

As I said, my reason for scheduling certain tasks as for today, is
that I like to have a plan of what to do each day.  Without an
explicit plan, I catch myself scanning my todo list many times during
a day, effectively wasting time on recreating the same plan many times.
But I've tried it only for a week now, so I can't say whether it works.

Thanks,
Piotr


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Interpretation of priorities in org-mode

2007-08-01 Thread Bastien
Piotr Zielinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The reason why I decided to use priorities was because it was easier
 to make them work with org-agenda. In particular, I don't know how to
 make the agenda display, for example, all headlines without
 the :today: tag in the order of increasing deadlines. If this is
 possible, I'll happily switch to tags.

This search should be achieved with a custom command like:

(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  '((u tags -today  
((org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(time-up))

See (info (org)Setting Options) ... but i can't have the '(time-up)
option to be taken into account.  At least it works for selecting all 
but the :today: tag.

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Re: [Orgmode] Integration of Org mode and mairix

2007-08-01 Thread Bastien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason F. McBrayer) writes:

 Please see (and comment) my suggestion here:

   http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2563

 I think that's basically right, though in the case of email search,
 probably the best thing would be making nnir work right (and provide
 nnir with a mairix backend).  

Yes, that would be even better. Although I think we could have both: a
org-gnus-links-prefer-nnir option (and mairix or namazu or swish-e ...
being called by nnir.el) *and* a org-custom-link-types (if one want to
store links from within, say, a man page.)

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