Re: [Orgmode] Re: Using yasnippet with org Mode

[Eric Schulte]

A solution for using yasnippets in org-mode (from the yasnippets mailing
list)

  Make sure you have snippets defined for org-mode. If you want to use
  the snippets from text-mode in org-mode, you can make an empty
  directory named org-mode in the text-mode directory where you put your
  text mode snippets.



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Re: [Orgmode] Using yasnippet with org Mode

[Eric Schulte]

Oliver Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi, sorry to be a little off topic but...

 I'm curious to hear what snippets people are using with org-mode.
 Anyone fancing sharing?


The only org-mode specific snippet I use often is the following (for
creating blocks in org files)

,[block]
| #name : #+begin_...#+end_
| # --
| #+begin_$1 $2
| $0
| #+end_$1
`

I'd be interested to hear others -- Eric


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Re: [Orgmode] Auto schedule

[Carsten Dominik]

On Nov 24, 2008, at 4:12 AM, Richard Riley wrote:



One of the things I use org-mode for is storing German language  
lessons

I get from a flashcard site.

What would be the best way to automatically schedule a reminder
(org-mode to-do item) for X days from now from a remember template?


I am not sure what you mean by automatically.  You can of course use

C-c C-s + X RET


- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] getting org-goto to work with ido

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Samuel,

On Nov 23, 2008, at 10:13 PM, Samuel Wales wrote:


Hi Carsten,

Thanks for the release.

ido.el works very well for org-refile.

 (setf org-refile-use-outline-path nil)
 (setq org-refile-targets '((org-agenda-files . (:maxlevel . 5

org-goto does not work, but can be made to work.

 (setf org-goto-auto-isearch nil)
 (setf org-goto-interface 'outline-path-completion)

To get it to work, I changed org.el's org-goto to remove the
line that contains (org-refile-use-outline-path t).


What I don't like about this setup is that you may have similar
headlines in different places, and no way to see which is which.

If you pull the newest version, you have now an interesting alternative:

Restore the line in org-goto that you removed, and then do

(setq org-outline-path-complete-in-steps nil)

Then targets for org-goto will still be identified by their entire
path, in this way removing disambiguates,  but you can then use
single-step completion to match the entire path, using ido if you wish.

By setting the variable, you will get the same interface in org-refile,
if you set org-refile-use-outline-path back to t.

Wow, this is *really* fast.

Maybe we should phase out the old org-goto interface that uses outline  
drilling.
Maybe I should start by setting the default for org-goto-interface to  
outline-path-completion.

Any thoughts about such a change?

- Carsten



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[Orgmode] Re: exporting unnumbered section headings?

[Bill White]

On Sun Nov 23 2008 at 20:41, Bill White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all -

 Inspired by other posts on the list recently, I'm setting up an
 org-based website. 

Here's what I have so far: http://members.wolfram.com/billw (currently
using the worg css definitions).  

I'm looking for one of those css-switcher thingies to switch the page's
css file on the fly and redisplay with the new styles.  Does anyone
have such a thing?

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Re: [Orgmode] RFC: Improvements to org-remember

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi James, I do like all this.  A few comments:

On Nov 24, 2008, at 12:25 AM, James TD Smith wrote:

I have a number of improvements to org-remember I am planning to  
implement. I
have briefly discussed some of them with Carsten, and I thought I  
should post a
detailed description here for discussion as I'm sure you will have  
ideas,

suggestions and criticisms of the proposed changes.

* Preliminary work
** Refactoring

Carsten suggested that the remember handler could do with some  
refactoring
before adding any new features, as it has gotten quite complicated  
in places.


The longest functions are `org-remember-apply-template' and
`org-remember-handler', so these are probably the best place to start.

I think it would make sense to move the code to get values for  
remember
expansions out of `org-remember-apply-template' into separate  
functions. These
could be added to an association list indexed by the expansion  
character. This

would also make it easier to add new expansions.


Yes.  However, it is necessary o keep the sequence of handling the  
escapes,

in particular first filling in all non-interactive ones, and only then
doing the interactive ones.




** Unit tests

 If we can decide on a unit testing framework, this would be an ideal
 opportunity to add some test coverage, as I'll need to do extensive  
testing
 to ensure I don't break anything with the refactoring or the new  
features. I

 have some experience with unit testing using JUnit.

** Plists for remember templates


Ah, this will be a big relieve when it is implemented,
should have been like this from the start.




 I want to change the format of remember templates to use plists.  
This is to
 allow introducing a number of optional parameters to control the  
new features
 I want to add. Org uses plists elsewhere, for example in the # 
+OPTIONS:
 configuration header, and #+PLOT: lines, so the syntax should  
already be

 familiar to org users.

 I also think it would make sense to to move some options which are  
currently

 set using escapes outside of the template, specifically %! (store
 template immediately) and % (jump to entry after storing).


Yes, this wil be much better.

 For backwards compatibility, the current template format would  
still be
 supported, but the additional options would not be available.  
Defaults for the
 extra parameters would be set so if they are not present the  
templates would

 work as they do currently.

 The current options would be represented as below:
 - :template :: the template itself
 - :name :: the name of the template
 - :target :: The :target parameter takes the place of the current  
file and

headline target specification. The parameter specifies only the
default target; all the other options will remain available via
numeric prefixes to C-c C-c. The available options are:
   - filename:heading :: a file target. If the heading is  
omitted,

 a top-level heading will be created.



That should be a double colon, for symmetry with org-archive-location,
and to avoid problems with Windows paths.



   - clock :: currently clocked task
   - current :: add under the the org headline where the point is.
   - interactive :: select a location interactively using the  
appropriate

  interface
   - function :: call function to get the target. The function can  
return

 either a marker, or a file/headline string.
 - :test :: a function, or list of major modes. The template is only
  available if the function returns true, or the current
  buffer is in one of the appropriate modes
 - :immediate :: replaces the %! escape; if t, the template is  
stored as soon

   as all escapes are replaced.
 - :jumpto :: replaces the % escape; if t, org jumps to the target  
location

when the note is stored.

* New features
** Adding non-headline items

 For some time I have wanted to be able to use remember to add  
checklist
 entries and table rows as well as org headlines. To configure this,  
a :type
 parameter will be added to the template, which can be either  
headline (the

 default), list, checklist or table.

 - Table rows.


This is an awesome idea, as are plain list items and checkboxes.

For plain list items, I guess the right thing would be to select the
first plain list under the headline, there might be several.
Also, the first table under a headline, in case there are more.



While one could have a property for explicitly selecting a type
like table row or plain-list item or checkbox,  it would also be
possible to derive this from the Remember buffer content automatically.
Which method is better?




   Currently if you want to use org to record periodic measurements  
(for
   example see the thread about using org to manage fitness  
training), you
   have to use properties and column view, which has a 

Re: [Orgmode] using variables in org-publish-project-alist

[Richard Riley]

Thanks - wow, I would never have found that!

Just testing it I noticed a small feature (possibly bug). We talked
about buffers being opened in the past when publishing. Now the project
publish is nice and quiet except for one case:

I break my site down to many subdirs each with an index.org/html.

If I open my homepage e.g ~/myweb/index.org, and then publish the
entire project while in that buffer then any other index replaces it
during the publish process - it is was replaced by
~/myweb/projects/index.org2 in the focused window. Not a day breaker
I admit, but still a slight blip in the otherwise super quiet publish
process.

And the quoting works fine, thanks for the explanation.



Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Richard,

 no, variables are not interpolated into quoted lists,
 any list preceded by ' is quoted.

 If you can guarantee that the value of the variables is define at the
 time the

   (setq org-publish-projects-alist ...

 is executed, then you can use backquote syntax:  Quote the main list
 with the backquote, and then preceed any variable inside you would
 like to have evaluated with a comma so

 (setq org-publish-projects-alist
`( .
,rgr-souerce
))

 Note that this works only once, so if you later change the value, this
 list will not be changed.

 If you wanted dynamic behavior, then we would have to patch org-
 publish.el.

 HTH

 - Carsten


 On Nov 24, 2008, at 2:45 AM, Richard Riley wrote:


 I removed directory names from my projects list thus

 ,
 | (setq org-publish-project-alist
 |   '(
 |(web-extra
 | :base-directory rgr-source  ;; **
 | :publishing-directory rgr-publish
 | :base-extension gif\\|jpg\\|jpeg\\|png\\|css
 | :publishing-function org-publish-attachment
 |  :recursive t
 | )
 |(web-org
 | :base-directory rgr-source
 | :publishing-directory rgr-publish
 | :base-extension org
 | :publishing-function org-publish-org-to-html
 |  :recursive t
 | :section-numbers nil
 | :style link rel=stylesheet
 |  href=\./style.css\
 |  type=\text/css\
 | :auto-preamble t
 | :auto-postamble t
 | :preamble (format div id='Content'a href='../'Back/a -
 a href='%s'Home/a rgr-home)
 | :postamble /div
 | :author nil
 | )
 |(web
 | :components(web-org web-extra)
 | )
 |)
 |   )
 `

 I included an external file:

 ,
 | (load-file ~/.emacs.d/.webvars)
 `

 where I declares the variables:

 ,
 | (setq rgr-source /home/sh/webs/rgr/)
 | (setq rgr-publish  /ssh:rgr.net:/home/sh/webs/rgr/)
 | (setq rgr-home http://rgr.net/default/;)
 `

 C-h v on rgr-source gives

 ,
 | rgr-source's value is
 | /home/sh/webs/rgr/
 |
 | Documentation:
 | Not documented as a variable.
 `

 but when I publish the project or a project file I get this:

 ,
 | org-publish-get-base-files: Wrong type argument: stringp, rgr-source
 `

 I have a niggly feeling its going to be something obvious but what?

 thanks for any info,

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Using yasnippet with org Mode

[Ian Barton]

As for using yasnippets with tab, the following successfully binds tab
to yas/expand when I start emacs with

  emacs -Q  (skips loading customization)

and then evaluate the following elisp to load yasnippets and org-mode

(load ~/emacs/elisp/util/yasnippet.el)
(yas/initialize)
(yas/load-directory ~/emacs/snippets)
(add-to-list 'load-path ~/emacs/org)
(require 'org)
(add-hook 'org-mode-hook
  (lambda ()
;; yasnippet
(make-variable-buffer-local 'yas/trigger-key)
(setq yas/trigger-key [tab])
(define-key yas/keymap [tab] 'yas/next-field-group)))

This works for me using a fairly recent Emacs 23 from cvs.



Thanks, I have tried that, but it didn't work for me:) I am using Emacs 
22.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2008-09-05 on vernadsky, modified by Ubuntu. I have also tried 
binding Yasnippet to the F1 key, which isn't used by anything else. 
Whilst this works in text mode, it doesn't in org mode.


I'll ask in the Yasnippet list and see if they can suggest anything.

Ian.


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Re: [Orgmode] using variables in org-publish-project-alist

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Richard,

no, variables are not interpolated into quoted lists,
any list preceded by ' is quoted.

If you can guarantee that the value of the variables is define at the  
time the


  (setq org-publish-projects-alist ...

is executed, then you can use backquote syntax:  Quote the main list  
with the backquote, and then preceed any variable inside you would  
like to have evaluated with a comma so


(setq org-publish-projects-alist
   `( .
   ,rgr-souerce
   ))

Note that this works only once, so if you later change the value, this
list will not be changed.

If you wanted dynamic behavior, then we would have to patch org- 
publish.el.


HTH

- Carsten


On Nov 24, 2008, at 2:45 AM, Richard Riley wrote:



I removed directory names from my projects list thus

,
| (setq org-publish-project-alist
|   '(
|   (web-extra
|:base-directory rgr-source  ;; **
|:publishing-directory rgr-publish
|:base-extension gif\\|jpg\\|jpeg\\|png\\|css
|:publishing-function org-publish-attachment
|  :recursive t
|)
|   (web-org
|:base-directory rgr-source
|:publishing-directory rgr-publish
|:base-extension org
|:publishing-function org-publish-org-to-html
|  :recursive t
|:section-numbers nil
|:style link rel=stylesheet
|  href=\./style.css\
|  type=\text/css\
|:auto-preamble t
|:auto-postamble t
| 	 :preamble (format div id='Content'a href='../'Back/a - a  
href='%s'Home/a rgr-home)

|:postamble /div
|:author nil
|)
|   (web
|:components(web-org web-extra)
|)
|   )
|   )
`

I included an external file:

,
| (load-file ~/.emacs.d/.webvars)
`

where I declares the variables:

,
| (setq rgr-source /home/sh/webs/rgr/)
| (setq rgr-publish  /ssh:rgr.net:/home/sh/webs/rgr/)
| (setq rgr-home http://rgr.net/default/;)
`

C-h v on rgr-source gives

,
| rgr-source's value is
| /home/sh/webs/rgr/
|
| Documentation:
| Not documented as a variable.
`

but when I publish the project or a project file I get this:

,
| org-publish-get-base-files: Wrong type argument: stringp, rgr-source
`

I have a niggly feeling its going to be something obvious but what?

thanks for any info,

r.


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Re: [Orgmode] exporting unnumbered section headings?

[Bill White]

On Sun Nov 23 2008 at 22:02, Sebastian Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  :section-numbers nil

On Sun Nov 23 2008 at 23:29, Matthew Lundin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 :section-numbers nil

Thanks guys!

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Relative clocking [Further discussion and ideas by OP]

[Carsten Dominik]

On Nov 24, 2008, at 8:47 AM, Alan E. Davis wrote:

I have looked at the list archives, and discovered some previous  
postings on a similar topic, about elapsed time.  Perhaps I can be  
more specific.


On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
I have been taking notes on videos, and need a relative clock  
function, starting when I start the film.


A post by Adam Speirs made a useful suggestion in response to a  
question by Alan Dove:


http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2007-07/msg00338.html

In particular, he posted three functions.  I have gotten them to  
work, they are simple.  I am uncertain how they interact with Org  
Mode, whether they work in a harmonious fashion with the clocking  
code in org mode.


Times inserted like this will not interact with the clocking
feature - probably just what you want in this case.

  I didn't figure out how to turn off the clock!   So I rebooted  
when I needed to restart.  I could edit his functions and insert  
exactly what I need.



Why would you want to turn off the clock?  It is actually
not running, only a starting time is recorded.  Just start
it again when you need a new clock.

I liked them because they don't require me to diddle around with  
properties and drawers, with which I am yet somewhat uncomfortable.


I agree, for this application you don't want this.  Just a hot key to  
insert the time,

or even a full headline or plain list item with the time included.

A further suggestion is born or my initial experiment with his  
function: I started the clock a bit too late, so all the timestamps  
are off by about 30-40 seconds.  Is it (at least in theory) possible  
to adjust all time stamps in a subtree by the same amount?  That  
would enable me to correct all of my notes in one fell stroke.


Of course this is possible, but code for that would need to be written.

- Carsten

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Re: [Orgmode] RFC: Improvements to org-remember

[James TD Smith]

Hi Samuel,

On 2008-11-23 17:23:15(-0700), Samuel Wales wrote:
 All of this looks great.  I especially like code integrity, plist
 syntax, and :prefix.
 
 Do you want more ideas for remember?

Yes. Any suggestions for new features or ways the behaviour of the remember
handler could be improved are most welcome. 
 
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Re: [Orgmode] RFC: Improvements to org-remember

[Russell Adams]

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 09:58:49AM +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 Hi James, I do like all this.  A few comments:

 On Nov 24, 2008, at 12:25 AM, James TD Smith wrote:
 ...

 ** Adding non-headline items

  For some time I have wanted to be able to use remember to add  
 checklist
  entries and table rows as well as org headlines. To configure this, a 
 :type
  parameter will be added to the template, which can be either headline 
 (the
  default), list, checklist or table.

  - Table rows.

 This is an awesome idea, as are plain list items and checkboxes.

 For plain list items, I guess the right thing would be to select the
 first plain list under the headline, there might be several.
 Also, the first table under a headline, in case there are more.


Table rows would rock!

 I would like to add here

   - Non-org items, to simply be appended to a file.
 I believe Russel Adams had a request about this, on how to use
 remember to add entries to a ledger file, for which using a
 template would be nice.  The problem is that Org currently requires
 the target file to be in Org-mode - for good reasons, because all
 kinds of Org stuff will be executed when the new entry is added.
 We should allow for the results of a remember template to be added
 to a non-Org file.

This style of adding to non-org files essentially makes remember a
template generated data entry front end for arbitrary text.

This would make the ledger file easy. My idea was to use remember to
quickly enter time/expenses/mileage into my ledger.

Thanks for your efforts!


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Re: [Orgmode] RFC: Improvements to org-remember

[Samuel Wales]

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 03:02, James TD Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes. Any suggestions for new features or ways the behaviour of the remember
 handler could be improved are most welcome.

In addition to the stuff already mentioned:

* TODO remember ideas
*** respect pop-up-windows
*** if the target file for org-remember is already known
use the control variables from that file
that way you can have your todo sequence available
*** if org-remember does not recognize the type,
abort completely
*** org-remember should be reentrant
able to call itself from inside itself if you have a note
you want to add that is not related to the one you are
adding.
*** org-remember-templates takes a character
can it take a function key?
*** emacs-w3m tight integration with org-mode
  - might be interesting to use an org-mode file to store
bookmarks.  this would require changing the way
bookmarks are added, to store them in a way similar to
org-remember.
  - perhaps antenna can also be integrated with org-mode.

[2008-09-20 Sat 18:26]
*** org merge org-annotate-file with remember code
to allow annotating anything
also have a hook for opening files and w3m pages etc. that
will print in the minibuffer this file/page/directory is
annotated.  press ... to see the annotation.

[2008-10-27 Mon 22:02]
[[http://orgmode.org/manual/Extensions-in-the-contrib-directory.html][Extensions
in the contrib directory - The Org Manual]]
*** brainstorm: support asking for the template
after the note was entered.

this might complicate things too much.

this is a tricky one to design, but the philosophy is that
the time between having an idea and entering it should be
minimal.  choosing the template type is a cognitive burden
before you enter the idea.

so dedicate a remember shortcut to the concept of let me
enter this now.  c-c c-c, it asks you details like is this
a todo item?  and which file does it go to?

you would have a remember template that allows for other
remember templates to be chosen after you enter the note.

ideally, it works like this:

  1.  call org-remember like that
  2.  enter note
  3.  c-c c-c
  4.  choose whether it's a note, journal, or shopping item
  5.  if it's note or journal, choose whether it's todo
  6.  if it's note or journal, choose tags (RET for none)
  7.  show completed buffer
  8.  y to accept; n to edit

nested plists?

P.S.  :prepend -- org-refile also needs this, separately from adding
notes in reverse order.


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[Orgmode] Volunteer wanted for administration of emacs-orgmode

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi,


I am looking for a volunteer doing the administration
of the mailing list.  This is little work, mainly looking
about once every day (in reaction to an email from the robot)
at the occasional mail from non-members that have been blocked,
and deciding if they should go through to the list.  Easy
work, but still one I'd like to pass on.

Let me know if you are interested.

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[Orgmode] undo and folding

[Samuel Wales]

Very often, I will hit undo, only to find that all of the changes it
makes are hidden in a folded subtree.  Combined with the lack of a
non-buggy true redo, this makes things very confusing.

Is there a way to fix this?

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[Orgmode] Re: Git recommendations

[Linh Dang]

Richard Riley rileyrgdev at googlemail.com writes:

 
 
 I've just spent a short time giving the crash test dummy procedure to a
 few git interfaces for emacs. All have their benefits. A lot have their
 negatives, But my immediate favourite for anyone thinking of using emacs
 interface to git for org is the following:
 
 http://tsgates.cafe24.com/git/git-emacs.html#sec1
 
 It doesn't come with a lot of default key bindings but the two most
 important for those familiar with vc-backend are there:
 
 C-x v v
 and
 C-x v =

egg's file-oriented minor-mode also has those 2 mappings (as well as
other vc main keys such as C-x v u, C-x vl, etc.)

 
 git-diff interfaces nicely to ediff.

if the egg's status buffer, if you type [RET] at a conflicting delta
(after a merge/rebase), egg will launch ediff3 to let you resolve the
conflict.

 magit and egg tend to
 git-status centric as opposed to file centric.

egg is has minor-mode which is fairly file-oriented. egg's C-x v v
sequence is customizable to match your personal workflow

 emacs-git is a nice
 mixture. It palms off the log/history interface to gitk - no need to
 reinvent the wheel.

egg uses the log buffer to do branch/tag creation/deletion as well
as pull/push/fetch etc.

http://github.com/bogolisk/egg/wikis

 
 Simple, powerful, extensible. Recommended.
 
 Oh, but missing staging  which magit and egg support but vc-git,
 git.el and emacs-git do not. I think ... 

magit and egg main raison-d'etre was exactly that: hunk-by-hunk
staging/unstaging. 


I haven't touch egg for a while and of course I'm biased.





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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Relative clocking [Further discussion and ideas by OP]

[Alan E. Davis]

Thank you for the reply.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Why would you want to turn off the clock?  It is actually
 not running, only a starting time is recorded.  Just start
 it again when you need a new clock.


Perfect!  Thank you.



 A further suggestion is born or my initial experiment with his function: I
 started the clock a bit too late, so all the timestamps are off by about
 30-40 seconds.  Is it (at least in theory) possible to adjust all time
 stamps in a subtree by the same amount?  That would enable me to correct all
 of my notes in one fell stroke.


 Of course this is possible, but code for that would need to be written.



I have written some elisp, not alot.  May I request a clue where to start?

Alan



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[Orgmode] Re: undo and folding

[Tassilo Horn]

Samuel Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi Samuel,

 Very often, I will hit undo, only to find that all of the changes it
 makes are hidden in a folded subtree.

That happens to me quite often, too.

 Combined with the lack of a non-buggy true redo, this makes things
 very confusing.

Where is emacs' redo buggy?  Any non-undo command after undo followed by
undo will undo your latest undo.  Isn't that easy?

 Is there a way to fix this?

I guess you could add a before advice to `undo', that calls `show-all'.

Bye,
Tassilo



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Re: [Orgmode] undo and folding

[Carsten Dominik]

Not that I know.  Maybe some advice around the undo function,
to make at least point visible after an undo command?  This is
untested, and may be incomplete since it does not take into
account the range in the buffer that was really affected by the undo.
But it may already help:

(defadvice undo (after org-undo-reveal activate)
  Make point and context visible after an undo command in Org-mode.
  (and (org-mode-p) (org-reveal)))


HTH

- Carsten


On Nov 24, 2008, at 8:44 PM, Samuel Wales wrote:


Very often, I will hit undo, only to find that all of the changes it
makes are hidden in a folded subtree.  Combined with the lack of a
non-buggy true redo, this makes things very confusing.

Is there a way to fix this?

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Git recommendations

[Richard Riley]

Linh Dang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrgdev at googlemail.com writes:

 
 
 I've just spent a short time giving the crash test dummy procedure to a
 few git interfaces for emacs. All have their benefits. A lot have their
 negatives, But my immediate favourite for anyone thinking of using emacs
 interface to git for org is the following:
 
 http://tsgates.cafe24.com/git/git-emacs.html#sec1
 
 It doesn't come with a lot of default key bindings but the two most
 important for those familiar with vc-backend are there:
 
 C-x v v
 and
 C-x v =

 egg's file-oriented minor-mode also has those 2 mappings (as well as
 other vc main keys such as C-x v u, C-x vl, etc.)

 
 git-diff interfaces nicely to ediff.

 if the egg's status buffer, if you type [RET] at a conflicting delta
 (after a merge/rebase), egg will launch ediff3 to let you resolve the
 conflict.

 magit and egg tend to
 git-status centric as opposed to file centric.

 egg is has minor-mode which is fairly file-oriented. egg's C-x v v
 sequence is customizable to match your personal workflow

 emacs-git is a nice
 mixture. It palms off the log/history interface to gitk - no need to
 reinvent the wheel.

 egg uses the log buffer to do branch/tag creation/deletion as well
 as pull/push/fetch etc.

 http://github.com/bogolisk/egg/wikis

 
 Simple, powerful, extensible. Recommended.
 
 Oh, but missing staging  which magit and egg support but vc-git,
 git.el and emacs-git do not. I think ... 

 magit and egg main raison-d'etre was exactly that: hunk-by-hunk
 staging/unstaging. 


 I haven't touch egg for a while and of course I'm biased.

Since then I discovered DVC.

http://richardriley.net/default/projects/emacs/dvc/tutorial/index

It's a shame so much effort is going into so many disjoint projects in
my view. They all cover different subsets and none appear to have a
large enough following to ensure interest and hence maintenance. Time
will tell.



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Re: [Orgmode] RFC: Improvements to org-remember

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Samuel,

this is hard to read.  Try, with the cursor on the first line:

C-c @to select the subtree
C-c C-e ato export to ASCII

The result is more readable as an Email text.

HTH

- Carsten


On Nov 24, 2008, at 8:29 PM, Samuel Wales wrote:

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 03:02, James TD Smith  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes. Any suggestions for new features or ways the behaviour of the  
remember

handler could be improved are most welcome.


In addition to the stuff already mentioned:

* TODO remember ideas
*** respect pop-up-windows
*** if the target file for org-remember is already known
use the control variables from that file
that way you can have your todo sequence available
*** if org-remember does not recognize the type,
abort completely
*** org-remember should be reentrant
able to call itself from inside itself if you have a note
you want to add that is not related to the one you are
adding.
*** org-remember-templates takes a character
can it take a function key?
*** emacs-w3m tight integration with org-mode
 - might be interesting to use an org-mode file to store
   bookmarks.  this would require changing the way
   bookmarks are added, to store them in a way similar to
   org-remember.
 - perhaps antenna can also be integrated with org-mode.

[2008-09-20 Sat 18:26]
*** org merge org-annotate-file with remember code
to allow annotating anything
also have a hook for opening files and w3m pages etc. that
will print in the minibuffer this file/page/directory is
annotated.  press ... to see the annotation.

[2008-10-27 Mon 22:02]
[[http://orgmode.org/manual/Extensions-in-the-contrib-directory.html] 
[Extensions

in the contrib directory - The Org Manual]]
*** brainstorm: support asking for the template
after the note was entered.

this might complicate things too much.

this is a tricky one to design, but the philosophy is that
the time between having an idea and entering it should be
minimal.  choosing the template type is a cognitive burden
before you enter the idea.

so dedicate a remember shortcut to the concept of let me
enter this now.  c-c c-c, it asks you details like is this
a todo item?  and which file does it go to?

you would have a remember template that allows for other
remember templates to be chosen after you enter the note.

ideally, it works like this:

 1.  call org-remember like that
 2.  enter note
 3.  c-c c-c
 4.  choose whether it's a note, journal, or shopping item
 5.  if it's note or journal, choose whether it's todo
 6.  if it's note or journal, choose tags (RET for none)
 7.  show completed buffer
 8.  y to accept; n to edit

nested plists?

P.S.  :prepend -- org-refile also needs this, separately from adding
notes in reverse order.


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[Orgmode] Re: bug? no newline at beginning of file

[Arun Persaud]

Hi

 Mikael Fornius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  ... this was just some thoughts.
 
 Replying my own post now.
 
 My thought was not of any great value because I now fully understand
 your problem:
 
 In org-mode it works as one expect but not in orgtbl-mode and when 
 pointis at beginning of line in the table and you hit RET the table 
 splits up
 but not at first line in orgtbl.

exactly... not a big thing either... plenty of work arounds (e.g. go to 
text-mode, add newline, go to org-mode)., but I thought I report it, since it 
looked like a bug to me ;)

cheers
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[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.13

[Bernt Hansen]

Sebastian Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This way first the *.org files are published (and thus ditaa images are
 created in :base-directory) and then the new generated images.

Thanks for the response Sebastian.

I already have my projects set up like this - it's just that I need to
break my (bad) habit of using org-publish-current-project when editing a
*.org file which has ditaa images since this does not publish the images
too.

I'll just fix my work flow so that I use the org-publish function
instead of org-publish-current-project.

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Re: [Orgmode] RFC: Improvements to org-remember

[Samuel Wales]

I was trying to contribute while reducing typing to a minimum to
reduce pain, and ended up making it hard for you to read.  Apologies.

==

remember ideas i've gathered over the past few months
=

Author: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008-11-24 14:38:05 MST


Table of Contents
=


+ respect pop-up-windows
+ if the target file for org-remember is already known
  use the control variables from that file
  that way you can have your todo sequence available
+ if org-remember does not recognize the type,
  abort completely
+ org-remember should be reentrant
  able to call itself from inside itself if you have a note
  you want to add that is not related to the one you are
  adding.
+ org-remember-templates takes a character
  can it take a function key?
+ emacs-w3m tight integration with org-mode
  - might be interesting to use an org-mode file to store
bookmarks.  this would require changing the way
bookmarks are added, to store them in a way similar to
org-remember.
  - perhaps antenna can also be integrated with org-mode.

  [2008-09-20 Sat 18:26]
+ org merge org-annotate-file with remember code
  to allow annotating anything
  also have a hook for opening files and w3m pages etc. that
  will print in the minibuffer this file/page/directory is
  annotated.  press ... to see the annotation.

  [2008-10-27 Mon 22:02] [Extensions in the contrib directory
- The Org Manual]
+ brainstorm: support asking for the template
  after the note was entered.

  this might complicate things too much.

  this is a tricky one to design, but the philosophy is that
  the time between having an idea and entering it should be
  minimal.  choosing the template type is a cognitive burden
  before you enter the idea.

  so dedicate a remember shortcut to the concept of let me
  enter this now.  c-c c-c, it asks you details like is this
  a todo item?  and which file does it go to?

  you would have a remember template that allows for other
  remember templates to be chosen after you enter the note.

  ideally, it works like this:

1.  call org-remember like that
2.  enter note
3.  c-c c-c
4.  choose whether it's a note, journal, or shopping item
5.  if it's note or journal, choose whether it's todo
6.  if it's note or journal, choose tags (RET for none)
7.  show completed buffer
8.  y to accept; n to edit

  nested plists?

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: bug? no newline at beginning of file

[Carsten Dominik]

Fixed, thanks.

- Carsten

On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:19 PM, Arun Persaud wrote:


Hi


Mikael Fornius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


... this was just some thoughts.


Replying my own post now.

My thought was not of any great value because I now fully understand
your problem:

In org-mode it works as one expect but not in orgtbl-mode and when
pointis at beginning of line in the table and you hit RET the table
splits up
but not at first line in orgtbl.


exactly... not a big thing either... plenty of work arounds (e.g. go  
to text-mode, add newline, go to org-mode)., but I thought I report  
it, since it looked like a bug to me ;)


cheers
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[Orgmode] Re: Volunteer wanted for administration of emacs-orgmode

[Paul R]

Carsten Let me know if you are interested.

I'm ok to so it. I'm in France, so it would be good if someone from the
other side of the earth could volunteer along with me so that we balance
the load of manual filtering and mail don't stay blocked for too long.
I think I would do the filtering at about 18:00 UTC+1

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: exporting unnumbered section headings?

[Sebastian Rose]

Hi Bill,


choosing a stylesheet `on the fly' would only work using
JavaScript. It's quite simple:


http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex9/stylesheetswitcher.htm




Bill White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Sun Nov 23 2008 at 20:41, Bill White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all -

 Inspired by other posts on the list recently, I'm setting up an
 org-based website. 

 Here's what I have so far: http://members.wolfram.com/billw (currently
 using the worg css definitions).  

 I'm looking for one of those css-switcher thingies to switch the page's
 css file on the fly and redisplay with the new styles.  Does anyone
 have such a thing?

 Cheers -

 bw

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Using yasnippet with org Mode

[Sebastian Rose]

Ian,


this is my yasnippets setup:


.emacs
= ---8-8-8---

(require 'yasnippet) ;; not yasnippet-bundle
(yas/initialize)
(yas/load-directory /home/sebastian/emacs/snippets/)

;; I use the WIN key for my own bindings, since I didn't use Windows for
;; ages, and I don't plan to :-)
;; H-y is convenient on german keyboard (like M-z on english/US
;; keyboard):

(defun sr-yas-in-org ()
  Define H-y as yas/expand in org
  (define-key org-mode-map [(hyper ?y)] 'yas/expand))

(add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'sr-yas-in-org)

= ---8-8-8---



Setup of the snippets tree beneath /home/sebastian/emacs/snippets/:

.
`-- fundamental-mode
|-- cc-mode
|   |-- c++-mode
|   `-- c-mode
|-- css-mode
|-- html-mode
|-- java-mode
|-- message-mode
|-- org-mode
|-- perl-mode
|   `-- cperl-mode
|-- php-mode
`-- picture-mode


As you can see, all modes inherit the snippets from fundamental
mode.




Example:

There's a `box' snippet in fundamental-mode which I may use in all
modes. It lives in a file named `box' in fundamental-mode and produces
an output like this:

  ,---.
  ! this is a box |
  `---´

Since I have _no_ file named `box' in `org-mode', expanding box in an
Org-file looks just the same:

  ,--.
  ! This is a box in org |
  `--´


For some modes, I overwrite it, simply by adding a file name `box' in
the appropriate subdirectory. This is the result of expanding
`php-mode/box' in a Php-file:

// - //
// This is a box //
// - //


... and in `picture-mode/box':

: +---+
: | A box in picture-mode |
: +---+


The former is what used, if I expand the `org-mode/ditaa' snippet in an
org-file, and press C-c '


#+begin_ditaa asdf.png -o
: +---+
: | A box in picture-mode |
: +---+
#+end_ditaa




In picture-mode, I have several boxes. I may choose one using the arrow
keys, if all their filenames start  with 'box':

picture-mode/box:
 ++
 | A box in pictqure-mode |
 ++

picture-mode/box.stippled-rounded:
 /-\
 | Rounded |
 \-/

picture-mode/box.stippled:
 +=-+
 | Stippled |
 +--+

picture-mode/box.stippled-rounded:
 /=-\
 | Rounded and stippled |
 \--/




box:

= ---8-8-8---
#name : ! box |
# --
  ,${1:$(make-string (string-width text) ?\-)}--.
  ! ${1:SubTitle} |
  \`${1:$(make-string (string-width text) ?\-)}--´
$0
= ---8-8-8---



picture-mode/box (you have to draw the closing `|' yourself):

= ---8-8-8---
#name : | straight |
# --
+${1:$(make-string (string-width text) ?\-)}--+
| ${1:Entity} |$0
+${1:$(make-string (string-width text) ?\-)}--+
= ---8-8-8---



picture-mode/box.rounded:

= ---8-8-8---
#name : | rounded |
# --
/${1:$(make-string (string-width text) ?\-)}--\\
| ${1:Entity} |$0
\\${1:$(make-string (string-width text) ?\-)}--/
= ---8-8-8---





One of my most used ones is this here in `php-mode/debug':

= ---8-8-8---
#contributor : Sebastian Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#name : echo pre; print_r( ...
# --
echo preb\\\$$1:/bbr /; print_r(\$$1); echo br /.__FILE__., line 
.__LINE__./pre;$0 exit;
= ---8-8-8---




You get the idea...


Regards, 


   Sebastian


Ian Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 As for using yasnippets with tab, the following successfully binds tab
 to yas/expand when I start emacs with

   emacs -Q  (skips loading customization)

 and then evaluate the following elisp to load yasnippets and org-mode

 (load ~/emacs/elisp/util/yasnippet.el)
 (yas/initialize)
 (yas/load-directory ~/emacs/snippets)
 (add-to-list 'load-path ~/emacs/org)
 (require 'org)
 (add-hook 'org-mode-hook
(lambda ()
  ;; yasnippet
  (make-variable-buffer-local 'yas/trigger-key)
  (setq yas/trigger-key [tab])
  (define-key yas/keymap [tab] 'yas/next-field-group)))

 This works for me using a fairly recent Emacs 23 from cvs.


 Thanks, I have tried that, but it didn't work for me:) I am using Emacs 22.2.1
 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
  of 2008-09-05 on vernadsky, modified by Ubuntu. I have also tried binding
 Yasnippet to the F1 key, which isn't used by anything else. Whilst this works 
 in
 text mode, it doesn't in org mode.

 I'll ask in the Yasnippet list and see 

Re: [Orgmode] using variables in org-publish-project-alist

[Sebastian Rose]

Hi Richard,


Richard Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 If I open my homepage e.g ~/myweb/index.org, and then publish the
 entire project while in that buffer then any other index replaces it
 during the publish process - it is was replaced by
 ~/myweb/projects/index.org2 in the focused window. Not a day breaker
 I admit, but still a slight blip in the otherwise super quiet publish
 process.


Does setting the `:index-filename' help?


(setq org-publish-project-alist
  '((org-notes

 ;; ...

 :auto-index t ; generate index.org automagically
 :index-filename sitemap.org
 :index-title Sitemap
 :recursive t
 
 ;; ...
 )



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Re: [Orgmode] using variables in org-publish-project-alist

[Richard Riley]

Sebastian Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Richard,


 Richard Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 If I open my homepage e.g ~/myweb/index.org, and then publish the
 entire project while in that buffer then any other index replaces it
 during the publish process - it is was replaced by
 ~/myweb/projects/index.org2 in the focused window. Not a day breaker
 I admit, but still a slight blip in the otherwise super quiet publish
 process.


 Does setting the `:index-filename' help?

I do not use auto-index but have my own index.org files. I believe
Carsten has addressed this issue.



 (setq org-publish-project-alist
   '((org-notes
 
  ;; ...

  :auto-index t ; generate index.org automagically
  :index-filename sitemap.org
  :index-title Sitemap
  :recursive t
  
  ;; ...
  )



 Regards,

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Re: [Orgmode] using variables in org-publish-project-alist

[Sebastian Rose]

Richard Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Sebastian Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Richard,


 Richard Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 If I open my homepage e.g ~/myweb/index.org, and then publish the
 entire project while in that buffer then any other index replaces it
 during the publish process - it is was replaced by
 ~/myweb/projects/index.org2 in the focused window. Not a day breaker
 I admit, but still a slight blip in the otherwise super quiet publish
 process.


 Does setting the `:index-filename' help?

 I do not use auto-index but have my own index.org files. I believe
 Carsten has addressed this issue.


Not shure, how this is implemented at the moment. index.org is the
default for `:index-filename'.



Best,


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 6.13

[Sebastian Rose]

OK, here is the patch. This ensures, that the whole project is published
for

C-c C-e P

Hence ditaa blocks can be exported together with a changed Org-file
again.



diff --git a/lisp/org-publish.el b/lisp/org-publish.el
index eafa8fa..3ec48c4 100644
--- a/lisp/org-publish.el
+++ b/lisp/org-publish.el
@@ -470,7 +470,11 @@ matching filenames.
 (defun org-publish-get-project-from-filename (filename)
   Return the project FILENAME belongs.
   (let* ((project-name (cdr (assoc (expand-file-name filename)
-  org-publish-files-alist
+  org-publish-files-alist)))
+(parent-project nil))
+(dolist (prj org-publish-project-alist)
+  (if (member project-name (plist-get (cdr prj) :components))
+  (setq project-name (car prj
 (assoc project-name org-publish-project-alist)))
 
 



Regards,


  Sebastian









Bernt Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 New contributed file /org-exp-blocks.el/
 

 This new file implements special export behavior of
 user-defined blocks.  The currently supported blocks are

 - comment :: Comment blocks with author-specific markup
 - ditaa ::  conversion of ASCII art into pretty png files
  using Stathis  Sideris' /ditaa.jar/ program
 - dot :: creation of graphs in the /dot/ language
 - R :: Sweave type exporting using the R program

 For more details and examples, see the file commentary in
 /org-exp-blocks.el/.

 Kudos to Eric Schulte for this new functionality, after
 /org-plot.el/ already his second major contribution.  Thanks
 to Stathis for this excellent program, and for allowing us to
 bundle it with Org-mode.

 Thanks for this!  I really like that C-c ' now makes editing the ditaa
 images easy.

 Now for my questions related to improving my work-flow for generating
 documents with ditaa images.

 Q1: Can org-publish-current-project somehow automatically pick up ditaa
 generated images?

 I have a play org file http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.org which
 generates the page at http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html.

 I usually edit the source file and then
M-x org-publish-current-project
 to publish my changes.

 This was working great... until ditaa came along :).

 Now exporting my .org files creates new ditaa generated images (.png
 files) which don't get exported with the document because they are
 part of a different project.  After org-publish-current-project I
 have to remember to also org-publish doc-png to get the ditaa
 generated images published.

 Publishing the parent project 'doc' instead

   doc
  doc-org (org - HTML export - publishing target)
  doc-png (copy .png  - publishing target)

 works fine so maybe I just need fix my workflow so my publish code
 is smart enough to find the appropriate parent project and publish
 that instead.

 Q2: Can org-publish handle a source file in more than one project?

 Sometimes I would like to publish the generated page (org-mode.html)
 as well as the source file that creates it (org-mode.org) as in Q1
 above.  I don't think I can have a doc-org project that generates
 HTML and a doc-src project that just copies the .org files verbatim
 to the target directory since after publishing one of the two
 projects the file is 'unchanged' and skipped for publishing the
 second one.  Is there a way to accomplish this?

 For now I'm manually touching the org file and manually publishing
 the doc-src project to make it work.


 ditaa images look great on HTML exports.  I'm having some difficulty
 including them in other formats (PDF for instance - they end up being
 tiny.)  Someday I'll find a good solution for that.
 http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.pdf is an example.

 Thanks for org-mode!

 Regards,
 Bernt





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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 6.13

[Sebastian Rose]

Arrgh

Sorry - there was an unnecessary line.


diff --git a/lisp/org-publish.el b/lisp/org-publish.el
index eafa8fa..3ec48c4 100644
--- a/lisp/org-publish.el
+++ b/lisp/org-publish.el
@@ -470,7 +470,11 @@ matching filenames.
 (defun org-publish-get-project-from-filename (filename)
   Return the project FILENAME belongs.
   (let* ((project-name (cdr (assoc (expand-file-name filename)
org-publish-files-alist
+(dolist (prj org-publish-project-alist)
+  (if (member project-name (plist-get (cdr prj) :components))
+  (setq project-name (car prj
 (assoc project-name org-publish-project-alist)))
 
 



Regards,

  Sebastian


Sebastian Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 OK, here is the patch. This ensures, that the whole project is published
 for

 C-c C-e P

 Hence ditaa blocks can be exported together with a changed Org-file
 again.



 diff --git a/lisp/org-publish.el b/lisp/org-publish.el
 index eafa8fa..3ec48c4 100644
 --- a/lisp/org-publish.el
 +++ b/lisp/org-publish.el
 @@ -470,7 +470,11 @@ matching filenames.
  (defun org-publish-get-project-from-filename (filename)
Return the project FILENAME belongs.
(let* ((project-name (cdr (assoc (expand-file-name filename)
 -  org-publish-files-alist
 +  org-publish-files-alist)))
 +(parent-project nil))
 +(dolist (prj org-publish-project-alist)
 +  (if (member project-name (plist-get (cdr prj) :components))
 +  (setq project-name (car prj
  (assoc project-name org-publish-project-alist)))
  
  



 Regards,


   Sebastian









 Bernt Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 New contributed file /org-exp-blocks.el/
 

 This new file implements special export behavior of
 user-defined blocks.  The currently supported blocks are

 - comment :: Comment blocks with author-specific markup
 - ditaa ::  conversion of ASCII art into pretty png files
  using Stathis  Sideris' /ditaa.jar/ program
 - dot :: creation of graphs in the /dot/ language
 - R :: Sweave type exporting using the R program

 For more details and examples, see the file commentary in
 /org-exp-blocks.el/.

 Kudos to Eric Schulte for this new functionality, after
 /org-plot.el/ already his second major contribution.  Thanks
 to Stathis for this excellent program, and for allowing us to
 bundle it with Org-mode.

 Thanks for this!  I really like that C-c ' now makes editing the ditaa
 images easy.

 Now for my questions related to improving my work-flow for generating
 documents with ditaa images.

 Q1: Can org-publish-current-project somehow automatically pick up ditaa
 generated images?

 I have a play org file http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.org which
 generates the page at http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html.

 I usually edit the source file and then
M-x org-publish-current-project
 to publish my changes.

 This was working great... until ditaa came along :).

 Now exporting my .org files creates new ditaa generated images (.png
 files) which don't get exported with the document because they are
 part of a different project.  After org-publish-current-project I
 have to remember to also org-publish doc-png to get the ditaa
 generated images published.

 Publishing the parent project 'doc' instead

   doc
  doc-org (org - HTML export - publishing target)
  doc-png (copy .png  - publishing target)

 works fine so maybe I just need fix my workflow so my publish code
 is smart enough to find the appropriate parent project and publish
 that instead.

 Q2: Can org-publish handle a source file in more than one project?

 Sometimes I would like to publish the generated page (org-mode.html)
 as well as the source file that creates it (org-mode.org) as in Q1
 above.  I don't think I can have a doc-org project that generates
 HTML and a doc-src project that just copies the .org files verbatim
 to the target directory since after publishing one of the two
 projects the file is 'unchanged' and skipped for publishing the
 second one.  Is there a way to accomplish this?

 For now I'm manually touching the org file and manually publishing
 the doc-src project to make it work.


 ditaa images look great on HTML exports.  I'm having some difficulty
 including them in other formats (PDF for instance - they end up being
 tiny.)  Someday I'll find a good solution for that.
 http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.pdf is an example.

 Thanks for org-mode!

 Regards,
 Bernt





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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 6.13

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Sebastian,

it seems to me thatt his patch depends on the projects in
org-publish-projects-alist to be defined in a certain order,
with the components first, and the big parent projects later.
So maybe you need to iterate the dolist loop until it stabilizes.

Also, I guess a component could be part of several parents?
Hmm, maybe not a likely setup.  OK, les not worry about this issue.

- Carsten

On Nov 25, 2008, at 2:48 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote:


Arrgh

Sorry - there was an unnecessary line.


diff --git a/lisp/org-publish.el b/lisp/org-publish.el
index eafa8fa..3ec48c4 100644
--- a/lisp/org-publish.el
+++ b/lisp/org-publish.el
@@ -470,7 +470,11 @@ matching filenames.
(defun org-publish-get-project-from-filename (filename)
  Return the project FILENAME belongs.
  (let* ((project-name (cdr (assoc (expand-file-name filename)
   org-publish-files-alist
+(dolist (prj org-publish-project-alist)
+  (if (member project-name (plist-get (cdr prj) :components))
+  (setq project-name (car prj
(assoc project-name org-publish-project-alist)))





Regards,

 Sebastian


Sebastian Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK, here is the patch. This ensures, that the whole project is  
published

for

C-c C-e P

Hence ditaa blocks can be exported together with a changed Org-file
again.



diff --git a/lisp/org-publish.el b/lisp/org-publish.el
index eafa8fa..3ec48c4 100644
--- a/lisp/org-publish.el
+++ b/lisp/org-publish.el
@@ -470,7 +470,11 @@ matching filenames.
(defun org-publish-get-project-from-filename (filename)
  Return the project FILENAME belongs.
  (let* ((project-name (cdr (assoc (expand-file-name filename)
-  org-publish-files-alist
+  org-publish-files-alist)))
+(parent-project nil))
+(dolist (prj org-publish-project-alist)
+  (if (member project-name (plist-get (cdr prj) :components))
+  (setq project-name (car prj
(assoc project-name org-publish-project-alist)))





Regards,


 Sebastian









Bernt Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


New contributed file /org-exp-blocks.el/


   This new file implements special export behavior of
   user-defined blocks.  The currently supported blocks are

   - comment :: Comment blocks with author-specific markup
   - ditaa ::  conversion of ASCII art into pretty png files
using Stathis  Sideris' /ditaa.jar/ program
   - dot :: creation of graphs in the /dot/ language
   - R :: Sweave type exporting using the R program

   For more details and examples, see the file commentary in
   /org-exp-blocks.el/.

   Kudos to Eric Schulte for this new functionality, after
   /org-plot.el/ already his second major contribution.  Thanks
   to Stathis for this excellent program, and for allowing us to
   bundle it with Org-mode.


Thanks for this!  I really like that C-c ' now makes editing the  
ditaa

images easy.

Now for my questions related to improving my work-flow for  
generating

documents with ditaa images.

Q1: Can org-publish-current-project somehow automatically pick up  
ditaa

   generated images?

   I have a play org file http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.org which
   generates the page at http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html.

   I usually edit the source file and then
  M-x org-publish-current-project
   to publish my changes.

   This was working great... until ditaa came along :).

   Now exporting my .org files creates new ditaa generated images  
(.png
   files) which don't get exported with the document because they  
are

   part of a different project.  After org-publish-current-project I
   have to remember to also org-publish doc-png to get the ditaa
   generated images published.

   Publishing the parent project 'doc' instead

 doc
doc-org (org - HTML export - publishing target)
doc-png (copy .png  - publishing target)

   works fine so maybe I just need fix my workflow so my publish  
code
   is smart enough to find the appropriate parent project and  
publish

   that instead.

Q2: Can org-publish handle a source file in more than one project?

   Sometimes I would like to publish the generated page (org- 
mode.html)
   as well as the source file that creates it (org-mode.org) as in  
Q1

   above.  I don't think I can have a doc-org project that generates
   HTML and a doc-src project that just copies the .org files  
verbatim

   to the target directory since after publishing one of the two
   projects the file is 'unchanged' and skipped for publishing the
   second one.  Is there a way to accomplish this?

   For now I'm manually touching the org file and manually  
publishing

   the doc-src project to make it work.


ditaa images 

Re: [Orgmode] Re: Relative clocking [Further discussion and ideas by OP]

[Carsten Dominik]

On Nov 24, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote:


Thank you for the reply.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

Why would you want to turn off the clock?  It is actually
not running, only a starting time is recorded.  Just start
it again when you need a new clock.

Perfect!  Thank you.

A further suggestion is born or my initial experiment with his  
function: I started the clock a bit too late, so all the timestamps  
are off by about 30-40 seconds.  Is it (at least in theory)  
possible to adjust all time stamps in a subtree by the same  
amount?  That would enable me to correct all of my notes in one  
fell stroke.


Of course this is possible, but code for that would need to be  
written.



I have written some elisp, not alot.  May I request a clue where to  
start?


Well write a function searching for the strings and change them... :-)

Something like this (untested) might do it.  These functions
handle negative times, so you can also use this to change
the timings relative to the beginning of a scene, so that a prelude
to a scene might be at negative times.:

(defun my-change-times-in-region (beg end delta)
  Change all h:mm:ss time in region by a DELTA.
  (interactive r\nsEnter time difference like \-1:08:26\ or  
\0:00:25\: )

  (let ((re [-+]?[0-9]+:[0-9]\\{2\\}:[0-9]\\{2\\})
(delta (my-hms-to-secs delta))
old new p)
(when (= delta 0) (error No change))
(save-excursion
  (goto-char end)
  (while (re-search-backward re beg t)
(setq p (point))
(replace-match
 (save-match-data
   (my-secs-to-hms (+ (my-hms-to-secs (match-string 0)) delta)))
 t t)
(goto-char p)

(defun my-hms-to-secs (hms)
  Convert h:mm:ss string to an integer time.
If the string starts with a minus sign, the integer will be negative.
  (if (not (string-match
\\([-+]?[0-9]+\\):\\([0-9]\\{2\\}\\):\\([0-9]\\{2\\}\\)
hms))
  0
(let* ((h (string-to-int (match-string 1 hms)))
   (m (string-to-int (match-string 2 hms)))
   (s (string-to-int (match-string 3 hms)))
   (sign (equal (substring (match-string 1 hms) 0 1) -)))
  (setq h (abs h))
  (* (if sign -1 1) (+ s (* 60 (+ m (* 60 h

(defun my-secs-to-hms (s)
  Convert integer S into h:mm:ss.
If the integer is negative, the strig will start with \-\.
  (let (sign m h)
(setq sign (if ( s 0) - )
  s (abs s)
  m (/ s 60) s (- s (* 60 m))
  h (/ m 60) m (- m (* 60 h)))
(format %s%d:%02d:%02d sign h m s)))

HTH

- Carsten


Hmmm, looks useful to me also for general note taking, maybe
I can add something linke this to Org

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