[O] TexInfo conversion of Org syntax (Success!)

2013-03-10 Thread Jambunathan K
TexInfo conversion of Org syntax (Success!) The info file looks good. But, I feel some stylistic aspects can be improved. Eval this form (info /home/kjambunathan/src/worg/dev/org-syntax.info nil) Or try C-u M-x info RET org-syntax.info RET

Re: [O] [PATCH] * lisp/ob-core.el (org-babel-execute-src-block): insert hash for silent results

2013-03-10 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes: A hash marks a *result* with an indication of what was used to generate it (code block parameters). The point of a hash is to allow the result to be returned without having to re-execute. For this reason, I think that the hash should live with the result. Here Babel is

Re: [O] two-way sync org agenda/ical

2013-03-10 Thread Karl Voit
* Marvin Doyley marvin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, Hi! Does anybody know how to export deadline or schedule items from org to ical ? I think you want to read following pages: http://orgmode.org/manual/iCalendar-export.html http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-google-sync.html --

Re: [O] S-M-right problem in orgstruct-mode

2013-03-10 Thread Alan Schmitt
Christopher Schmidt writes: Alan Schmitt alan.schm...@polytechnique.org writes: Looking at it there seems to be occurrences of '++' that are a bit strange. Was it garbled when attached? Ooops, I forgot to finalise my merge. It's looking good, thanks. One small nitpick: when a key is

Re: [O] Editing folded headlines and ellipses

2013-03-10 Thread Bastien
Hi Suvayu, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes: I remember someone (maybe Bastien) putting in a safeguard quite sometime back that would unfold a headline with a warning when you tried to edit near the ellipses. This was to protect against accidental edits. I see this not there

Re: [O] [new exporter] [html] Tables of Contents

2013-03-10 Thread Bastien
Hi Samuel, Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: How do we make it a reality NOW? No, I stated my reasons here: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/67829 -- Bastien

Re: [O] Fixing footnote HTML

2013-03-10 Thread Bastien
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: I asked him to remove ox-html.el and he indicated how he wanted to proceed ahead. He wants ox-html.el in the tree and not GNU ELPA. Just to prevent confusion: I never said anything like this. ox-html.el is in the master branch of Org's repository,

Re: [O] S-M-right problem in orgstruct-mode

2013-03-10 Thread Bastien
Hi Alan and Christopher, Alan Schmitt alan.schm...@polytechnique.org writes: even though the cursor is on a structure element. Maybe a more information this function is disabled would work (if it's possible). But as I said, it's a nitpick. I agree with Alan, let's update the user-error to

Re: [O] Editing folded headlines and ellipses

2013-03-10 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Bastien, On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:34:26AM +0100, Bastien wrote: Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes: I remember someone (maybe Bastien) putting in a safeguard quite sometime back that would unfold a headline with a warning when you tried to edit near the ellipses. This

Re: [O] Fixing footnote HTML

2013-03-10 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: On 3/9/13, Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com wrote: I am sure Samuel will remind us infinitely if we forget about it. Unless you say why it is confusing, I would count the above statement as just

Re: [O] GFDL

2013-03-10 Thread Bastien
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On 9.3.2013, at 16:25, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de wrote: Carsten Dominik writes: I still think it is crazy to add these 8 pages to each time someone prints it It fits on exactly two pages (or front and back of one page) if wrapped

Re: [O] [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-10 Thread Bastien
Hi Nicolas, the manual would enjoy a subsection in Hacking on how to create a new exporter, either from scratch or as a derived exporter. (Such a subsection can be short enough, thanks to derived backend.) From this section, we can throw links to the exporter reference document and the Org

Re: [O] Fixing footnote HTML

2013-03-10 Thread Jambunathan K
Bastien b...@altern.org writes: Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: I asked him to remove ox-html.el and he indicated how he wanted to proceed ahead. He wants ox-html.el in the tree and not GNU ELPA. Just to prevent confusion: I never said anything like this. ox-html.el is in

Re: [O] [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-10 Thread Bastien
Bastien b...@altern.org writes: But both reference documents don't fit into the manual IMO. They are great resources for developers, not for users. The footnotes are enough for advanced users who want to go beyond the manual. That said, we can also bundle both documents into Org's

Re: [O] Fixing footnote HTML

2013-03-10 Thread Bastien
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: I was typing faster. So I consider what I typed grammatically malformed. Sorry. No problem. People who want improvements to ox-html.el should be willing to work with me or act on my comments or argue with me or openly call me I am wrong.

Re: [O] Fixing footnote HTML

2013-03-10 Thread Jambunathan K
Thomas I will reply to you in private. I am talking to Samuels and Ricks who think that I have no right to offer my opinions on what gets in to that file. Jambunathan K.

Re: [O] Fixing footnote HTML

2013-03-10 Thread Jambunathan K
Bastien b...@altern.org writes: Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: I was typing faster. So I consider what I typed grammatically malformed. Sorry. No problem. People who want improvements to ox-html.el should be willing to work with me or act on my comments or argue with me

Re: [O] Fixing footnote HTML

2013-03-10 Thread Bastien
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: I wrote the code, I know where it will bite. I will not say it, because you seem so confident. Yes, go ahead and fix it. Done, thanks. -- Bastien

[O] Syntax of Org Babel results

2013-03-10 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hello, Before Org 8 is out, I'm willing to put light on some last syntax which I find counter-intuitive and not along the lines of the rest: it concerns the `results' parameter. Let's sum up first the list of all parameters: 1. Collection - :results value - :results output 2. Type of

Re: [O] [RFC] Org version of the Org manual

2013-03-10 Thread Achim Gratz
Thomas S. Dye writes: That works nicely. I found the error and orgmanual.pdf is now produced without errors. Progress! :-) With the current version from git I cannot export to texinfo successfully, though, I get this error near the end of the export: Debugger entered--Lisp error:

Re: [O] GFDL

2013-03-10 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: Feel free to make the change in org.texi if you know how to achieve this in a simple way. I checked the Texinfo manual and the control over columns and font size is rudimentary. My tests using @iftex didn't go anywhere :/ Obviously, multicols is a LaTeX package and that code

Re: [O] org-agenda-write taking very long (probably because of babel)

2013-03-10 Thread Achim Gratz
Karl Voit writes: Since my Org-mode update from today (from 5d467d6f8affc0afe34922e885ac6e2492ddd091 Fri Feb 15 15:28:35 2013 +0100) it takes very long to export the ics file. I guess this relates to ... org-babel-exp processing... [25 times] ... which also pops up some babel result

Re: [O] [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-10 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: That said, we can also bundle both documents into Org's distribution, as .org files in the doc/ directory. And have a make rule to convert them to .pdf and info docs. I don't want to be the party pooper, but if these documents should go into the distribution, then we must

Re: [O] TexInfo conversion of Org syntax (Success!)

2013-03-10 Thread Achim Gratz
Jambunathan K writes: Or try C-u M-x info RET org-syntax.info RET Bye, bye webbrowser! Finally a (relatively) painless way to get info documentation, great. Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld:

Re: [O] [new exporter] ignoring a headline on export to PDF?via?latex

2013-03-10 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Charles, On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 07:11:48AM +, Charles Berry wrote: I added to org-hacks.org at the bottom of ** Exporting org files. I tried to push to worg but got a permission error - its been years since I last pushed anything, so something on my end probably needs to be updated.

Re: [O] S-M-right problem in orgstruct-mode

2013-03-10 Thread Christopher Schmidt
Bastien b...@altern.org writes: Hi there, Alan Schmitt alan.schm...@polytechnique.org writes: even though the cursor is on a structure element. Maybe a more information this function is disabled would work (if it's possible). But as I said, it's a nitpick. thank you very much for testing

Re: [O] [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-10 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien writes: That said, we can also bundle both documents into Org's distribution, as .org files in the doc/ directory. And have a make rule to convert them to .pdf and info docs. I don't want to be the party pooper, but if these documents should go

Re: [O] GFDL

2013-03-10 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Obviously, multicols is a LaTeX package and that code snippet was from one of my own documents that was written directly in LaTeX. So, sadly, I do not have any working example of how to do it in TeX, let alone TeXinfo. So we will have to ask elsewhere

[O] emacs export org-mode to wiki: especially for the org-mode tables

2013-03-10 Thread filebat Mark
hi all I badly need the feature of exporting org-mode to wiki(like mediawiki). After google for a while, I found some links but they don't work for me. Do you guys have any suggestion for this? If no option, I may use lisp to implement them by myself.

[O] ox-odt.el/ox-freemind.el: Please remove it from Org core

2013-03-10 Thread Jambunathan K
ox-odt.el/ox-freemind.el: Please remove it from Org core and don't distribute these files with Org. I don't want to discuss property rights. I am the sole author of ox-odt.el and I don't want it as part of Org distribution. As for ox-html.el etc, interested people can watch emacs-devel for

[O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Jambunathan K
I would like to remove ox-html.el from Org distribution. My relationship with ox-html.el is a bit complicated and I am not sure how far I can go forward on this front. I am willing to go as far is humanly possible for me to have my displeasure registered. --

Re: [O] asynchronous exporter and babel confirmation

2013-03-10 Thread Alan Schmitt
Nicolas Goaziou writes: Hello, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Done in commit 4f7d514f13. The double hyphens have been omitted based on a discussion with Eric Schulte. Applied to ox.el in commit 69c617c. Thanks a lot! Alan

Re: [O] [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-10 Thread Jambunathan K
Bastien But both reference documents don't fit into the manual IMO. You are a jerk, a BIG JERK. Jambunathan K. --

Re: [O] Support Freemind/Freeplane export

2013-03-10 Thread Scott Randby
On 03/03/2013 08:33 PM, François Pinard wrote: Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: How many people are going to read HTML code? [...] In short, the concern you have raised is more cosmetic than functional. Replying to the org-mode mailing list. I did not closely followed the

Re: [O] [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-10 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: No, the documents can go into the distribution with contributions from anyone, because they won't be in Emacs. FSF assignment is needed only for things that go into Emacs. I understood that these or substantial parts of it will end up in the Org manual, which is in Emacs. If

Re: [O] [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-10 Thread Jambunathan K
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien writes: No, the documents can go into the distribution with contributions from anyone, because they won't be in Emacs. FSF assignment is needed only for things that go into Emacs. I understood that these or substantial parts of it will end up

[O] Org Community

2013-03-10 Thread Scott Randby
Last September, I attended a talk given by the lead developers of a prominent free software project. One of the developers spoke about the importance of maintaining a friendly community that does not drive people away. In particular, the developer emphasized that the community is more important

Re: [O] [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-10 Thread Achim Gratz
Jambunathan K writes: Emacs lisp has a manual of it's own. I don't see how Org export reference *cannot* end in Emacs. I said that I'm expecting these references to become part of the manual(s). I still expect that and will try to help it along, but it doesn't necessarily need to take the

Re: [O] Fixing footnote HTML

2013-03-10 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Jambunathan, Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: Thomas I will reply to you in private. I am talking to Samuels and Ricks who think that I have no right to offer my opinions on what gets in to that file. If this is indeed what is being discussed, then there is no reason to

Re: [O] Macros expanded in Org buffer

2013-03-10 Thread Thomas S. Dye
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: Aloha all, I'm not sure how this happened, but chapter 2 of orgmanual now has all the macros replaced by their expansions. You can see this here: https://github.com/tsdye/orgmanual/blob/master/orgmanual.org Apologies for the brief post earlier. I

[O] Publish setup in file

2013-03-10 Thread Julian Gehring
Hi, Is there a way to specify publishing options (e.g. the location) at the level of the file to be published, instead doing this globally in the =.emacs= file? I have many projects in orgmode which consist of a single file. I have been looking at #+SETUPFILE (which seems to deal only with

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Detlef Steuer
I am willing to go as far is humanly possible for me to have my displeasure registered. Dear Jambunathan, your displeasure is very well registered by the hundreds or even thousands of readers of this list. It is very sad to see an obviously very gifted and energetic programmer going in

Re: [O] [RFC] Org version of the Org manual

2013-03-10 Thread Jonathan Leech-Pepin
Hello Achim, On 10 March 2013 08:24, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de wrote: Thomas S. Dye writes: That works nicely. I found the error and orgmanual.pdf is now produced without errors. Progress! :-) With the current version from git I cannot export to texinfo successfully, though, I get

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Andreas Röhler
Am 10.03.2013 19:55, schrieb Detlef Steuer: I am willing to go as far is humanly possible for me to have my displeasure registered. Dear Jambunathan, your displeasure is very well registered by the hundreds or even thousands of readers of this list. It is very sad to see an obviously very

Re: [O] [RFC] Org version of the Org manual

2013-03-10 Thread Achim Gratz
Jonathan Leech-Pepin writes: The error is actually on line 6069 of the manual. The {{{vindex [...]}}} line and subsequent paragraph. As far as the list is concerned there is no associated content for that list entry. Indenting them appropriately to be recognized as part of the list allows for

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Christopher Schmidt
Detlef Steuer detlef.ste...@gmx.de writes: But: The papers the FSF asked you to sign were constructed for exactly this case I assume. That's not right. https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-assign.html I am not a copyright lawyer. So is everyone else subscribed to this list. The FSF's

Re: [O] [RFC] Org version of the Org manual

2013-03-10 Thread Jonathan Leech-Pepin
On 10 March 2013 15:25, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de wrote: Jonathan Leech-Pepin writes: The error is actually on line 6069 of the manual. The {{{vindex [...]}}} line and subsequent paragraph. As far as the list is concerned there is no associated content for that list entry. Indenting

Re: [O] src blocks in texinfo export

2013-03-10 Thread Jonathan Leech-Pepin
Hello Dario, On 12 February 2013 17:09, Dario Hamidi dario.ham...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jonathan, Using your patch as is would wrap the source blocks in both example and verbatim blocks. If going with verbatim it would be better to remove all references to @example/@end example. I

Re: [O] [PATCH] * lisp/ob-core.el (org-babel-execute-src-block): insert hash for silent results

2013-03-10 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Achim, Eric, Achim Gratz wrote: Eric Schulte writes: A hash marks a *result* with an indication of what was used to generate it (code block parameters). The point of a hash is to allow the result to be returned without having to re-execute. For this reason, I think that the hash should

Re: [O] [RFC] Org version of the Org manual

2013-03-10 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Jonathan Leech-Pepin jonathan.leechpe...@gmail.com writes: The error is not actually within ox-texinfo in this case however I suspect. The exact same code (at the location of the error in ox-texinfo) appears within ox-latex and ox-ascii. `(org-trim contents)', which removes

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Christopher, Christopher Schmidt christop...@ch.ristopher.com writes: #+BEGIN my2cents If Jambunathan does not want code he wrote to be part of Org any more, I'd respect his wish. At first sight this is a loss for Org. This does not need to be the end, though. GSoC is coming up,

Re: [O] [RFC] Org version of the Org manual

2013-03-10 Thread Jonathan Leech-Pepin
Hello, On 10 March 2013 16:23, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Jonathan Leech-Pepin jonathan.leechpe...@gmail.com writes: The error is not actually within ox-texinfo in this case however I suspect. The exact same code (at the location of the error in ox-texinfo)

Re: [O] [PATCH] * lisp/ob-core.el (org-babel-execute-src-block): insert hash for silent results

2013-03-10 Thread Achim Gratz
Sebastien Vauban writes: A more general question: shouldn't cache be unusable (generate an error) when there is a session? In the presence of a session, I've the impression that caching results is always wrong. Who knows its contents before executing the code, in the next Emacs session? That

Re: [O] Help with babel results

2013-03-10 Thread Eric Schulte
Michael Gauland mikely...@no8wireless.co.nz writes: I'm working with an sqlite database of songs, and I've run into trouble with titles that start with a '(' (for example, (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction). 'Verbatim' results work: #+BEGIN_SRC sqlite :db test-db :results verbatim .mode

Re: [O] [RFC] Org syntax (draft)

2013-03-10 Thread Jonathan Leech-Pepin
Hello On 10 March 2013 13:12, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de wrote: Jambunathan K writes: Emacs lisp has a manual of it's own. I don't see how Org export reference *cannot* end in Emacs. I said that I'm expecting these references to become part of the manual(s). I still expect that and

Re: [O] [PATCH] Make `org-contacts-message-complete-function' work with byte compilation

2013-03-10 Thread Daimrod
Frank Terbeck f...@bewatermyfriend.org writes: Hi Frank, Thank you for the report; however, I'm unsure about the right solution. There is a problem with the current (eval-when-compile ...) but there are still warnings when I compile it (with emacs -batch -f batch-byte-compile). In

Re: [O] Help with babel results

2013-03-10 Thread Eric Schulte
I've now committed this patch. -- Eric Schulte http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte

Re: [O] [RFC] Org version of the Org manual

2013-03-10 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Thomas S. Dye writes: That works nicely. I found the error and orgmanual.pdf is now produced without errors. Progress! :-) With the current version from git I cannot export to texinfo This is fixed now. I've extended the Makefile to approximate

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Alan L Tyree
On 11/03/13 06:30, Christopher Schmidt wrote: Detlef Steuer detlef.ste...@gmx.de writes: But: The papers the FSF asked you to sign were constructed for exactly this case I assume. That's not right. https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-assign.html I am not a copyright lawyer. So is

Re: [O] Fixing footnote HTML

2013-03-10 Thread Samuel Wales
Hi Bastien, Thanks for removing the table tags. It looks great in w3m. Much less confusing. For some reason, I am getting no blank lines between footnotes, and no blank lines between paragraphs in multi-paragraph footnotes. Any idea why? Tested in Firefox. I can try to dig up old exporter

Re: [O] Org Community

2013-03-10 Thread James Harkins
Scott Randby srandby at gmail.com writes: However, I am concerned about the future of org. There is one individual who is poisoning the atmosphere by engaging in unfair and unfounded name calling that simply should not be included in messages to this list. Now this person wants to take some

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Jambunathan K
Christopher Schmidt christop...@ch.ristopher.com writes: Detlef Steuer detlef.ste...@gmx.de writes: But: The papers the FSF asked you to sign were constructed for exactly this case I assume. That's not right. https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-assign.html I am not a copyright lawyer.

Re: [O] ox-html.el removal

2013-03-10 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Jambunathan, Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: Even if my combative positioning doesn't amount to anything much, I want to throw in a little friction by the way of Bastien and the current release. I am stating my purpose in no uncertain terms - yes it is to delay the