Re: [O] Extending org-contacts with properties: naming properties
* David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that this kind of simple thing looks like a better idea. However, it would also be nice to be able to call it some name where a person who encounters the software capability but doesn't yet know what it's for will understand what it's for just from reading the name. This is my goal, yes. Given is simple and sounds clear, but it doesn't say who did the giving so the clarity is over-rated. CustomerInfoIGaveThem is a bit long. :) (and TheirRecordOfMe is hardly any better.) :) I am trying to find something that fulfills the trade-off between short and descriptive/long. Is it true that none of my words from the first mail is reaching the goal somewhat? - mediated - informed - assigned - passed - requested - connexidatum - stored - delivered I am depending here on the native speakers who can judge better than me using a translation tool ... Then, there are some possible combinations I could think of: - I_gave_phone - About_me_phone - About_my_phone - ... -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github
Re: [O] How to pass named table reference in source block variable
Thorsten Jolitz tjolitz at gmail.com writes: This does the job in Emacs Lisp: #+TBLNAME: T | | x | 1 | | ^ | | varx | #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var x=T[0,-1] x #+end_src #+results: : 1 Thanks for the answer but in fact, my objective is precisely to avoid using the indices of the value I want to pass as input of the code block. My goal is to use the cell name reference varx which would make the code block simpler to maintain. Indeed, if I add new data on the top of table T, I wouldn't have to change the reference in the code block since the name reference is fixed.
[O] Babel issue after upgrade to Org 8?
I've recently updated my Debian unstable installation and Emacs now reports this on startup: Symbol's function definition is void: org-babel-do-load-language My .emacs includes: (org-babel-do-load-languages 'org-babel-load-languages '((R . t))) I've searched for a solution and read the notes about upgrading to Org 8 (which may have occurred during the update?), but have not found a solution. Can someone point me in the right direction, please? Thanks.
Re: [O] Extending org-contacts with properties: naming properties
Karl Voit writes: * David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that this kind of simple thing looks like a better idea. However, it would also be nice to be able to call it some name where a person who encounters the software capability but doesn't yet know what it's for will understand what it's for just from reading the name. This is my goal, yes. Given is simple and sounds clear, but it doesn't say who did the giving so the clarity is over-rated. CustomerInfoIGaveThem is a bit long. :) (and TheirRecordOfMe is hardly any better.) :) My first reaction was to use a short sentence like itoldthem. I can't think of any single english word that doesn't also need a subject to describe which direction the transfer went. R Horn
Re: [O] Babel issue after upgrade to Org 8?
SabreWolfy wrote: I've recently updated my Debian unstable installation and Emacs now reports this on startup: Symbol's function definition is void: org-babel-do-load-language My .emacs includes: (org-babel-do-load-languages 'org-babel-load-languages '((R . t))) I've searched for a solution and read the notes about upgrading to Org 8 (which may have occurred during the update?), but have not found a solution. Can someone point me in the right direction, please? Thanks. This is weird as it's part of `org.el' (and is supposed to be autoloaded)... ╭ │ org-babel-do-load-languages is an autoloaded Lisp function in `org.el'. │ │ (org-babel-do-load-languages SYM VALUE) │ │ Load the languages defined in `org-babel-load-languages'. ╰ Maybe type a `make autoloads' if you use the Git version... Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban
Re: [O] Extending org-contacts with properties: naming properties
Karl Voit devn...@karl-voit.at writes: * David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that this kind of simple thing looks like a better idea. However, it would also be nice to be able to call it some name where a person who encounters the software capability but doesn't yet know what it's for will understand what it's for just from reading the name. This is my goal, yes. Given is simple and sounds clear, but it doesn't say who did the giving so the clarity is over-rated. CustomerInfoIGaveThem is a bit long. :) (and TheirRecordOfMe is hardly any better.) :) I am trying to find something that fulfills the trade-off between short and descriptive/long. Is it true that none of my words from the first mail is reaching the goal somewhat? - mediated - informed - assigned - passed - requested - connexidatum - stored - delivered I am depending here on the native speakers who can judge better than me using a translation tool ... Then, there are some possible combinations I could think of: - I_gave_phone - About_me_phone - About_my_phone - ... Is this a prefix for multiple values? Ie, it will be XXX_email, XXX_cell, XXX_phone and so on? I think the word context is pretty relevant here; you might consider something like CONTEXT_EMAIL or CONTEXT_MY_EMAIL. Just a thought. E
Re: [O] [FeatureReq]: Move nodes in column view
Thomas Koch tho...@koch.ro writes: I'm just learning about column view. It might be very useful to work on scrum backlogs with column view and storypoints as a column. Have you looked at https://github.com/ianxm/emacs-scrum? It would be wonderful if I could move nodes up and down in column view to reorder the priority of backlog items represented as org nodes. Is this possible already? AFAIK this is not possible. You can setup your column view so that you'll see the priority and from there you should be able to edit it directly in the column view with S-left and S-right. HTH Christian -- Christian Egli Swiss Library for the Blind, Visually Impaired and Print Disabled Grubenstrasse 12, CH-8045 Zürich, Switzerland
Re: [O] [PATCH] Timestamps: Handle sub-10-min ranges when updating timestamps
Hello, Trevor Murphy trevor.m.mur...@gmail.com writes: * lisp/org.el (org-get-compact-tod): Pad with 0 if # of minutes is less than 10. Thanks for your patch. Would you mind providing a test-case for it? I'm not sure about the use of `org-get-compact-tod'. --- lisp/org.el | 7 +-- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el index 26e653f..89e023c 100644 --- a/lisp/org.el +++ b/lisp/org.el @@ -16088,9 +16088,12 @@ with the current time without prompting the user. (if (not t2) t1 (setq dh (- h2 h1) dm (- m2 m1)) - (if ( dm 0) (setq dm (+ dm 60) dh (1- dh))) + (when ( dm 0) (setq dm (+ dm 60) dh (1- dh))) Although I agree with this change, this is not strictly necessary here. (concat t1 + (number-to-string dh) - (if (/= 0 dm) (concat : (number-to-string dm + (when (/= 0 dm) (concat : +(if ( dm 10) +(concat 0 (number-to-string dm)) + (number-to-string dm) It would be better to use a 0-padded format string, e.g., (and (/= 0 dm) (format :%02d dm)) Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] [bug] latex export ascii encoding
Hello, Jan-Mark Batke bad...@gmx.net writes: BTW, I tested windows in the mean time - encoding is maintained for file export, but buffer export yields wrong encoding of the buffer. This should now be fixed. Thanks for the report. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
[O] Viewing notes in agenda log mode
I like to take notes with z in agenda mode logging progress of tasks as I move through the day. Is it possible today to enable viewing these notes (first line only) when log mode is turned on the agenda mode the way todo state changes or clock lines are shown? Cheers! --Manish
Re: [O] Problem with org-insert-heading on multi-line items?
Hi Nick Thanks for the reply, and thanks for trying to reproduce what I'm seeing. You've made me realize that I have filed a weak bug report. I owe the list a reproducible test case. I will get going on that. Regards, Tom Davey -- Tom Davey t...@tomdavey.com New York NY USA
Re: [O] How to pass named table reference in source block variable
Roland Donat roland.do...@gmail.com writes: Thorsten Jolitz tjolitz at gmail.com writes: This does the job in Emacs Lisp: #+TBLNAME: T | | x | 1 | | ^ | | varx | #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var x=T[0,-1] x #+end_src #+results: : 1 Thanks for the answer but in fact, my objective is precisely to avoid using the indices of the value I want to pass as input of the code block. My goal is to use the cell name reference varx which would make the code block simpler to maintain. Indeed, if I add new data on the top of table T, I wouldn't have to change the reference in the code block since the name reference is fixed. Perhaps this can help: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/lob-table-operations.html Alternatively, you might pass the table to a code block of a language that understands tables, such as an R data frame, and use that language to retrieve values by name. hth, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com
Re: [O] Problem with org-insert-heading on multi-line items?
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 11:16:33AM -0400, Tom Davey wrote: Hi Nick Thanks for the reply, and thanks for trying to reproduce what I'm seeing. You've made me realize that I have filed a weak bug report. I owe the list a reproducible test case. I will get going on that. To aid to that goal: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/41281 GL, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free.
Re: [O] Viewing notes in agenda log mode
Hi Manish, Not sure if you mean showing them as if they were the headline? [ or ] will show the headline (not the note itself) temporarily. E will show a few of the first lines, but does not seem to work for notes. I do this to make it permanent: (setq org-agenda-include-inactive-timestamps t) However, it is a defvar not a defcustom, it might exclude the timestamp in the closed entry, and there is no built-in way to turn it (and only it) off that I know of. Turning this into an agenda log mode item would be an interesting solution. IMO there are several other interesting possibilities that can be considered at the same time, such as a new face for these lines, making E show the matching lines for text search, making log mode item types be treated as tags, etc. Not sure if any of that helped at all. I guess you want E to work for these lines? Samuel On 8/7/13, Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com wrote: I like to take notes with z in agenda mode logging progress of tasks as I move through the day. Is it possible today to enable viewing these notes (first line only) when log mode is turned on the agenda mode the way todo state changes or clock lines are shown? Cheers! --Manish -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. ANYBODY can get it. Denmark: free Karina Hansen NOW.
Re: [O] Extending org-contacts with properties: naming properties
* Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: Is this a prefix for multiple values? Ie, it will be XXX_email, XXX_cell, XXX_phone and so on? Yes. I think the word context is pretty relevant here; you might consider something like CONTEXT_EMAIL or CONTEXT_MY_EMAIL. Just a thought. I agree, that the context is important here. However, context_address could be mixed up with this is the address where I met this person or similar. -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github
Re: [O] Extending org-contacts with properties: naming properties
* Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu wrote: My first reaction was to use a short sentence like itoldthem. I can't think of any single english word that doesn't also need a subject to describe which direction the transfer went. I love it :-) It's set: my first properties will be: :ITOLDTHEM_EMAIL: :ITOLDTHEM_ADDRESS: :ITOLDTHEM_PHONE: Thanks! Can't wait until my mail filter rule file is generated directly using my contacts.org :-) -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github
Re: [O] How to pass named table reference in source block variable
Thomas S. Dye tsd at tsdye.com writes: Perhaps this can help: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/lob-table- operations.html Alternatively, you might pass the table to a code block of a language that understands tables, such as an R data frame, and use that language to retrieve values by name. hth, Tom Thank you for the link, I'll check it but seems that it won't solve the problem. But anyway, I found a workaround that doesn't involve to insert table reference. It's a pity that I am so bad at Lisp because I feel this feature wouldn't be too complicated to code, especially if the reference mechanism is already implemented. Thank you again! Cheers, Roland.
Re: [O] Very slow performance in Org-mode on 10k line file?
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de wrote: Am 07.08.2013 22:25, schrieb John Hendy: Greetings, I just started experiencing major lag in Org-mode on my main work notes file, which is at about 10k lines. Is that getting up to the point where files get unwieldy? In googling around, I found a few suggestions: - Fiddle with linum settings http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5229705/emacs-org-mode-turn-off-line-numbers I set linum-eager to off and linum-delay to on for the current setting via the customize interface and didn't perceive an effect. Any keystroke in my org file takes 1-2 seconds to appear. - Fontification? http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/45197 Comments there have files in the 5-137k line range and many say there's no/little lag unless running agenda commands. Any other suggestions? I use this file almost daily, mostly for reference, not adding... that's to say it hasn't grown majorly in the past even 3months (maybe a few hundred lines), but performance *definitely* wasn't anything like this until the last week or so. Thanks for any suggestions on improving or tracking down the source. In the mean time, I'm going to revert to a few git commits ago and see if that does anything for me. Best regards, John Hi, just jumping on the bandwagon. My one and only biggest issue with wonderful Orgmode is slow Emacs. I run Emacs on i7 hardware with lots of memory and still have an Emacs Orgmode that answers rather slowly. Slow meaning it is just not snappy at all. Creating any aganda takes several seconds which is a long time to wait for the result. I already spent a lot of thought into how to optimise the performance of my system, archiving and splitting Org files, using sticky agenda etc. I know there is no quick solution to the slowness because of the limitation of threading in Emacs - I just wanted to mention that very unmodern behaviour of Emacs running Orgmode. I have to use Windows 7 so this makes it even slower. I assume my environment would run faster on Linux. I'm running Arch Linux 64bit on an HP EliteBook 8540w with an i7 and 8G of RAM. HD is 54% full at present. I agree that this shouldn't be a big burden, and whatever happened recently really made this unusable for me. Oddly, generating an agenda only takes a couple of seconds, which is plenty fast for me, even using search. So yes, this is nothing more than something like a rant. For me Orgmode is still the killer app in Emacs, it is just sad to have a slow environment on quite modern hardware with some bigger Org files. My files are of size: $ wc *org 1241690 31670 file1.org 1555 11829 97805 file2.org 35022 262820 2314234 file3.org 9994968 105854 file4.org 5574029 30586 file5.org 2523 20324 162165 file6.org 2447 19974 139768 file7.org 6894703 36495 file8.org 6789 58782 461211 file9.org 53078 403126 3531142 total $ wc *.org 23 90867 bibliography.org 42192 1756 clocking.org 2137 18286 122303 devel.org 9837 74994 494234 projects.org 1536 9692 77261 reference.org 1057 6673 48309 tf.org 14632 109927 744730 total projects.org is my most used file by far, and the biggest, but nothing compared to some of the folks posting on the link I showed who have 30-130k line files! John Rainer
Re: [O] How to pass named table reference in source block variable
Roland Donat roland.do...@gmail.com writes: Perhaps this can help: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/lob-table- operations.html Alternatively, you might pass the table to a code block of a language that understands tables, such as an R data frame, and use that language to retrieve values by name. hth, Tom Thank you for the link, I'll check it but seems that it won't solve the problem. But anyway, I found a workaround that doesn't involve to insert table reference. What is the workaround? All the best, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com
Re: [O] Very slow performance in Org-mode on 10k line file?
Just an update: - I reverted back to commit release_8.0.2-73-g9998f2 (early May) with no change in behavior, so perhaps it wasn't anything other than growing file size - I just created archive files for work journal entries in 2011 and 2012, storing them in separate archive files - I'm now down to ~6500 lines, and lag is unnoticeable Perhaps there's some magical cutoff between 6,000 and 10,000 lines that starts to really bog things down? John On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:47 PM, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de wrote: Am 07.08.2013 22:25, schrieb John Hendy: Greetings, I just started experiencing major lag in Org-mode on my main work notes file, which is at about 10k lines. Is that getting up to the point where files get unwieldy? In googling around, I found a few suggestions: - Fiddle with linum settings http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5229705/emacs-org-mode-turn-off-line-numbers I set linum-eager to off and linum-delay to on for the current setting via the customize interface and didn't perceive an effect. Any keystroke in my org file takes 1-2 seconds to appear. - Fontification? http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/45197 Comments there have files in the 5-137k line range and many say there's no/little lag unless running agenda commands. Any other suggestions? I use this file almost daily, mostly for reference, not adding... that's to say it hasn't grown majorly in the past even 3months (maybe a few hundred lines), but performance *definitely* wasn't anything like this until the last week or so. Thanks for any suggestions on improving or tracking down the source. In the mean time, I'm going to revert to a few git commits ago and see if that does anything for me. Best regards, John Hi, just jumping on the bandwagon. My one and only biggest issue with wonderful Orgmode is slow Emacs. I run Emacs on i7 hardware with lots of memory and still have an Emacs Orgmode that answers rather slowly. Slow meaning it is just not snappy at all. Creating any aganda takes several seconds which is a long time to wait for the result. I already spent a lot of thought into how to optimise the performance of my system, archiving and splitting Org files, using sticky agenda etc. I know there is no quick solution to the slowness because of the limitation of threading in Emacs - I just wanted to mention that very unmodern behaviour of Emacs running Orgmode. I have to use Windows 7 so this makes it even slower. I assume my environment would run faster on Linux. I'm running Arch Linux 64bit on an HP EliteBook 8540w with an i7 and 8G of RAM. HD is 54% full at present. I agree that this shouldn't be a big burden, and whatever happened recently really made this unusable for me. Oddly, generating an agenda only takes a couple of seconds, which is plenty fast for me, even using search. So yes, this is nothing more than something like a rant. For me Orgmode is still the killer app in Emacs, it is just sad to have a slow environment on quite modern hardware with some bigger Org files. My files are of size: $ wc *org 1241690 31670 file1.org 1555 11829 97805 file2.org 35022 262820 2314234 file3.org 9994968 105854 file4.org 5574029 30586 file5.org 2523 20324 162165 file6.org 2447 19974 139768 file7.org 6894703 36495 file8.org 6789 58782 461211 file9.org 53078 403126 3531142 total $ wc *.org 23 90867 bibliography.org 42192 1756 clocking.org 2137 18286 122303 devel.org 9837 74994 494234 projects.org 1536 9692 77261 reference.org 1057 6673 48309 tf.org 14632 109927 744730 total projects.org is my most used file by far, and the biggest, but nothing compared to some of the folks posting on the link I showed who have 30-130k line files! John Rainer
Re: [O] Very slow performance in Org-mode on 10k line file?
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Russell Adams rlad...@adamsinfoserv.com wrote: John, I have a 17,000 file I work out of constantly in Org 7.8.10 with very little lag. Just another data point. Is it inconvenient for you to git pull and try on Org 8.0 to see if there's any difference? John Thanks. On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 05:06:51PM -0500, John Hendy wrote: Just an update: - I reverted back to commit release_8.0.2-73-g9998f2 (early May) with no change in behavior, so perhaps it wasn't anything other than growing file size - I just created archive files for work journal entries in 2011 and 2012, storing them in separate archive files - I'm now down to ~6500 lines, and lag is unnoticeable Perhaps there's some magical cutoff between 6,000 and 10,000 lines that starts to really bog things down? John On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:47 PM, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de wrote: Am 07.08.2013 22:25, schrieb John Hendy: Greetings, I just started experiencing major lag in Org-mode on my main work notes file, which is at about 10k lines. Is that getting up to the point where files get unwieldy? In googling around, I found a few suggestions: - Fiddle with linum settings http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5229705/emacs-org-mode-turn-off-line-numbers I set linum-eager to off and linum-delay to on for the current setting via the customize interface and didn't perceive an effect. Any keystroke in my org file takes 1-2 seconds to appear. - Fontification? http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/45197 Comments there have files in the 5-137k line range and many say there's no/little lag unless running agenda commands. Any other suggestions? I use this file almost daily, mostly for reference, not adding... that's to say it hasn't grown majorly in the past even 3months (maybe a few hundred lines), but performance *definitely* wasn't anything like this until the last week or so. Thanks for any suggestions on improving or tracking down the source. In the mean time, I'm going to revert to a few git commits ago and see if that does anything for me. Best regards, John Hi, just jumping on the bandwagon. My one and only biggest issue with wonderful Orgmode is slow Emacs. I run Emacs on i7 hardware with lots of memory and still have an Emacs Orgmode that answers rather slowly. Slow meaning it is just not snappy at all. Creating any aganda takes several seconds which is a long time to wait for the result. I already spent a lot of thought into how to optimise the performance of my system, archiving and splitting Org files, using sticky agenda etc. I know there is no quick solution to the slowness because of the limitation of threading in Emacs - I just wanted to mention that very unmodern behaviour of Emacs running Orgmode. I have to use Windows 7 so this makes it even slower. I assume my environment would run faster on Linux. I'm running Arch Linux 64bit on an HP EliteBook 8540w with an i7 and 8G of RAM. HD is 54% full at present. I agree that this shouldn't be a big burden, and whatever happened recently really made this unusable for me. Oddly, generating an agenda only takes a couple of seconds, which is plenty fast for me, even using search. So yes, this is nothing more than something like a rant. For me Orgmode is still the killer app in Emacs, it is just sad to have a slow environment on quite modern hardware with some bigger Org files. My files are of size: $ wc *org 1241690 31670 file1.org 1555 11829 97805 file2.org 35022 262820 2314234 file3.org 9994968 105854 file4.org 5574029 30586 file5.org 2523 20324 162165 file6.org 2447 19974 139768 file7.org 6894703 36495 file8.org 6789 58782 461211 file9.org 53078 403126 3531142 total $ wc *.org 23 90867 bibliography.org 42192 1756 clocking.org 2137 18286 122303 devel.org 9837 74994 494234 projects.org 1536 9692 77261 reference.org 1057 6673 48309 tf.org 14632 109927 744730 total projects.org is my most used file by far, and the biggest, but nothing compared to some of the folks posting on the link I showed who have 30-130k line files! John Rainer -- Russell Adamsrlad...@adamsinfoserv.com PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ Fingerprint:1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3
Re: [O] Very slow performance in Org-mode on 10k line file?
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com wrote: John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: ... Thanks for any suggestions on improving or tracking down the source. In the mean time, I'm going to revert to a few git commits ago and see if that does anything for me. That's definitely a good idea: it sounds as if something got worse suddenly so it may have been a minor change. Well, see my follow-up email. Reverting back to early May did not change the situation. Before you try going back, can you also try to get a profile of a slow operation and then repeat the profile on the same operation with the earlier org? M-x elp-instrument-package org M-x elp-reset-all run your workload M-x elp-results Would it help to do this on a 6k file vs. a 10k file? Reducing my file size made a huge difference, so if those results would be of interest/help, I can definitely do that? John should be enough as a first approximation. -- Nick
Re: [O] Very slow performance in Org-mode on 10k line file?
John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: ... Thanks for any suggestions on improving or tracking down the source. In the mean time, I'm going to revert to a few git commits ago and see if that does anything for me. That's definitely a good idea: it sounds as if something got worse suddenly so it may have been a minor change. Before you try going back, can you also try to get a profile of a slow operation and then repeat the profile on the same operation with the earlier org? M-x elp-instrument-package org M-x elp-reset-all run your workload M-x elp-results should be enough as a first approximation. -- Nick
Re: [O] Very slow performance in Org-mode on 10k line file?
John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: M-x elp-instrument-package org M-x elp-reset-all run your workload M-x elp-results Would it help to do this on a 6k file vs. a 10k file? Reducing my file size made a huge difference, so if those results would be of interest/help, I can definitely do that? The more data the better, so yes, I think it's a useful exercise. -- Nick
Re: [O] Very slow performance in Org-mode on 10k line file?
John, I have a 17,000 file I work out of constantly in Org 7.8.10 with very little lag. Just another data point. Thanks. On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 05:06:51PM -0500, John Hendy wrote: Just an update: - I reverted back to commit release_8.0.2-73-g9998f2 (early May) with no change in behavior, so perhaps it wasn't anything other than growing file size - I just created archive files for work journal entries in 2011 and 2012, storing them in separate archive files - I'm now down to ~6500 lines, and lag is unnoticeable Perhaps there's some magical cutoff between 6,000 and 10,000 lines that starts to really bog things down? John On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:47 PM, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Rainer Stengele rainer.steng...@online.de wrote: Am 07.08.2013 22:25, schrieb John Hendy: Greetings, I just started experiencing major lag in Org-mode on my main work notes file, which is at about 10k lines. Is that getting up to the point where files get unwieldy? In googling around, I found a few suggestions: - Fiddle with linum settings http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5229705/emacs-org-mode-turn-off-line-numbers I set linum-eager to off and linum-delay to on for the current setting via the customize interface and didn't perceive an effect. Any keystroke in my org file takes 1-2 seconds to appear. - Fontification? http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/45197 Comments there have files in the 5-137k line range and many say there's no/little lag unless running agenda commands. Any other suggestions? I use this file almost daily, mostly for reference, not adding... that's to say it hasn't grown majorly in the past even 3months (maybe a few hundred lines), but performance *definitely* wasn't anything like this until the last week or so. Thanks for any suggestions on improving or tracking down the source. In the mean time, I'm going to revert to a few git commits ago and see if that does anything for me. Best regards, John Hi, just jumping on the bandwagon. My one and only biggest issue with wonderful Orgmode is slow Emacs. I run Emacs on i7 hardware with lots of memory and still have an Emacs Orgmode that answers rather slowly. Slow meaning it is just not snappy at all. Creating any aganda takes several seconds which is a long time to wait for the result. I already spent a lot of thought into how to optimise the performance of my system, archiving and splitting Org files, using sticky agenda etc. I know there is no quick solution to the slowness because of the limitation of threading in Emacs - I just wanted to mention that very unmodern behaviour of Emacs running Orgmode. I have to use Windows 7 so this makes it even slower. I assume my environment would run faster on Linux. I'm running Arch Linux 64bit on an HP EliteBook 8540w with an i7 and 8G of RAM. HD is 54% full at present. I agree that this shouldn't be a big burden, and whatever happened recently really made this unusable for me. Oddly, generating an agenda only takes a couple of seconds, which is plenty fast for me, even using search. So yes, this is nothing more than something like a rant. For me Orgmode is still the killer app in Emacs, it is just sad to have a slow environment on quite modern hardware with some bigger Org files. My files are of size: $ wc *org 1241690 31670 file1.org 1555 11829 97805 file2.org 35022 262820 2314234 file3.org 9994968 105854 file4.org 5574029 30586 file5.org 2523 20324 162165 file6.org 2447 19974 139768 file7.org 6894703 36495 file8.org 6789 58782 461211 file9.org 53078 403126 3531142 total $ wc *.org 23 90867 bibliography.org 42192 1756 clocking.org 2137 18286 122303 devel.org 9837 74994 494234 projects.org 1536 9692 77261 reference.org 1057 6673 48309 tf.org 14632 109927 744730 total projects.org is my most used file by far, and the biggest, but nothing compared to some of the folks posting on the link I showed who have 30-130k line files! John Rainer -- Russell Adamsrlad...@adamsinfoserv.com PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ Fingerprint:1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3
Re: [O] Very slow performance in Org-mode on 10k line file?
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 05:17:53PM -0500, John Hendy wrote: Is it inconvenient for you to git pull and try on Org 8.0 to see if there's any difference? I'm not prepared to upgrade at this time. I just thought it odd the line length you were experiencing issues at compared to mine. Good luck! -- Russell Adamsrlad...@adamsinfoserv.com PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ Fingerprint:1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3
Re: [O] Very slow performance in Org-mode on 10k line file?
Alrighty. Here you are:
#+begin_src minimal emacs (which I've moved to ~/.emacs) and started a
fresh session
(add-to-list 'load-path ~/.elisp/org.git/contrib/lisp)
(add-to-list 'load-path ~/.elisp/org.git/lisp/)
#+end_src
Really simple operation, but that's that had huge lag on the 10k file.
All I did was delete a word and re-write it, and then insert a line
above a table (#+attr_latex: :align llp{7cm}). Here's the process:
- Start emacs (/usr/bin/emacs)
- Navigate to file (6k ~/org/projects.org file)
- Run: M-x elp-instrument-package [RET] org
- Run: M-x elp-reset-all
- Navigate to the headline I was trying to work on, delete a word a
character at a time, re-type it, add the above latex line above a
table
- Run: M-x elp-results
- Copied 2011 and 2012 journal entries back into projects.org, saved,
quit emacs, and repeated
Results with 6k line file
==
org-self-insert-command 41
2.026747151 0.0494328573
org-activate-dates 54
0.0175029940 0.0003241295
org-fontify-meta-lines-and-blocks 161
0.006726777 4.178...e-05
org-fontify-meta-lines-and-blocks-1 161
0.0047893350 2.974...e-05
org-delete-backward-char12
0.002401629 0.0002001357
org-activate-footnote-links 54
0.002203194 4.079...e-05
org-activate-plain-links54
0.0020726379 3.838...e-05
org-unfontify-region54
0.0020696900 3.832...e-05
org-at-table-p 54
0.0016839339 3.118...e-05
org-footnote-next-reference-or-definition 54
0.0015487719 2.868...e-05
org-do-latex-and-related54
0.0014039899 2.599...e-05
org-do-emphasis-faces 54
0.001028353 1.904...e-05
org-string-nw-p 54
0.0008700800 1.611...e-05
org-activate-angle-links54
0.0008193899 1.517...e-05
org-return 1
0.000758448 0.000758448
org-activate-tags 54
0.0005812419 1.076...e-05
org-in-item-p 1
0.000436519 0.000436519
org-activate-bracket-links 54
0.0004324309 8.007...e-06
org-activate-code 54
0.000416118 7.705...e-06
org-fix-tags-on-the-fly 53
0.000332257 6.269e-06
org-font-lock-add-priority-faces54
0.0003180110 5.889...e-06
org-string-match-p 54
0.000269684 4.994...e-06
org-remove-font-lock-display-properties 54
0.0002692999 4.987...e-06
org-list-context1
0.000268703 0.000268703
org-hide-wide-columns 54
0.000228154 4.225...e-06
org-before-change-function 54
0.0001231199 2.279...e-06
org-remove-flyspell-overlays-in 21
0.0001044190 4.972...e-06
org-font-lock-hook 54
8.081...e-05 1.496...e-06
org-check-before-invisible-edit 53
7.8635e-051.483...e-06
org-activate-target-links 54
7.542...e-05 1.396...e-06
org-fontify-entities54
6.752e-05 1.250...e-06
org-raise-scripts 54
6.415...e-05 1.188...e-06
org-font-lock-add-tag-faces 54
5.994...e-05 1.110...e-06
org-in-src-block-p 1
5.1549e-055.1549e-05
org-in-regexp 1
3.4068e-053.4068e-05
org-back-to-heading 1
3.3785e-053.3785e-05
org-get-limited-outline-regexp 1
2.1714e-052.1714e-05
org-at-heading-p1
1.3884e-051.3884e-05
org-get-indentation 2
1.337...e-05 6.689...e-06
org-item-re 1
4.116e-06 4.116e-06
==
Results with ~10k line file
==
org-self-insert-command 39
0.855967410.0219478823
org-cycle 6
0.107894177 0.0179823628
org-cycle-internal-local6
0.1058569380 0.0176428230
org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change 6
0.047916078 0.007986013
org-subtree-end-visible-p 5
0.046233295 0.009246659
org-end-of-subtree 27
0.029686826 0.0010995120
org-outline-level 394
0.0162884779 4.134...e-05
org-cycle-show-empty-lines 6
0.008189213 0.0013648688
org-fontify-meta-lines-and-blocks 182
0.0078306620 4.302...e-05
org-fontify-meta-lines-and-blocks-1 182
0.0057315880 3.149...e-05
Re: [O] Add figure/table numbers to HTML captions
Hello, I just want to update you on my completion of the assignment/disclaimer process with FSF. Regards, On Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:48:04 +0900 (JST), Yoshinari Nomura n...@quickhack.net said: I applied your patches and added you to the list of contributors without FSF papers. Please consider signing them if you want to provide more patches to Org mode. Thank you so much. I'll go on the FSF procedure. Subject: [gnu.org #839264] Yoshinari Nomura - EMACS ORG-MODE Assignment Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 09:24:58 -0400 Hello, Your assignment/disclaimer process with the FSF is currently complete; your fully executed PDF will be sent to you in a separate email immediately following this one. (snip) ___ INFORMATION FOR THE MAINTAINER(S) Here's how the contributor answered the question, “ Did you copy any files or text written by someone else in these changes?” no [Which files have you changed so far, and which new files have you written so far?] Org-mode staffs: lisp/ox.el lisp/ox-html.el
Re: [O] [PATCH] Emacs Org Babel Scheme (Geiser) support
Em Tue, 6 Aug 2013 23:32:20 + (UTC) Michael Gauland mikely...@amuri.net escreveu: Thanks for such a well-written, well-documented, and most of all useful contribution! Definitely a big improvement over my initial implementation. Thank you --- you're welcome. I'm also very grateful for your contribution to Babel. I've applied the patch to my system, but I'm having trouble getting it to work--I'm not getting any results. For example, this block: #+BEGIN_SRC scheme (display This is the output) This is the value #+END_SRC Returns nil, whether I'm asking for output or value. Your example is yielding the intended results on my system. I'm running emacs 23.4.1 on Debian wheezy, with Geiser 3.0. I'm running GNU Emacs 24.1 on my own GNU, with Geiser 0.4. That is the latest version of Geiser (May 2013)[fn:1], perhaps your problem resides there[fn:2]. Could you send me a copy of your ob-scheme.el to help me track this down? Sure. It is attached. -- ,= ,-_-. =. Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro (oitofelix) [0x28D618AF] ((_/)o o(\_)) There is no system but GNU; `-'(. .)`-' Linux-libre is just one of its kernels; \_/ All software should be free as in freedom; * Footnotes [fn:1] http://geiser.nongnu.org/ [fn:2] I wonder whether you have misspelled your Geiser version. ;;; ob-scheme.el --- org-babel functions for Scheme ;; Copyright (C) 2010-2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc. ;; Authors: Eric Schulte, Michael Gauland ;; Keywords: literate programming, reproducible research, scheme ;; Homepage: http://orgmode.org ;; This file is part of GNU Emacs. ;; GNU Emacs is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify ;; it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by ;; the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or ;; (at your option) any later version. ;; GNU Emacs is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, ;; but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of ;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the ;; GNU General Public License for more details. ;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License ;; along with GNU Emacs. If not, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/. ;;; Commentary: ;; Now working with SBCL for both session and external evaluation. ;; ;; This certainly isn't optimally robust, but it seems to be working ;; for the basic use cases. ;;; Requirements: ;; - a working scheme implementation ;; (e.g. guile http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/guile.html) ;; ;; - for session based evaluation geiser is required, which is available from ;; ELPA. ;;; Code: (require 'ob) (require 'geiser nil t) (defvar geiser-repl--repl) ; Defined in geiser-repl.el (defvar geiser-impl--implementation) ; Defined in geiser-impl.el (defvar geiser-default-implementation) ; Defined in geiser-impl.el (defvar geiser-active-implementations) ; Defined in geiser-impl.el (declare-function run-geiser geiser-repl (impl)) (declare-function geiser-mode geiser-mode ()) (declare-function geiser-eval-region geiser-mode (start end optional and-go raw nomsg)) (declare-function geiser-repl-exit geiser-repl (optional arg)) (defvar org-babel-default-header-args:scheme '() Default header arguments for scheme code blocks.) (defun org-babel-expand-body:scheme (body params) Expand BODY according to PARAMS, return the expanded body. (let ((vars (mapcar #'cdr (org-babel-get-header params :var (if ( (length vars) 0) (concat (let ( (mapconcat (lambda (var) (format %S (print `(,(car var) ',(cdr var) vars \n ) )\n body )) body))) (defvar org-babel-scheme-repl-map (make-hash-table :test 'equal) Map of scheme sessions to session names.) (defun org-babel-scheme-cleanse-repl-map () Remove dead buffers from the REPL map. (maphash (lambda (x y) (when (not (buffer-name y)) (remhash x org-babel-scheme-repl-map))) org-babel-scheme-repl-map)) (defun org-babel-scheme-get-session-buffer (session-name) Look up the scheme buffer for a session; return nil if it doesn't exist. (org-babel-scheme-cleanse-repl-map) ; Prune dead sessions (gethash session-name org-babel-scheme-repl-map)) (defun org-babel-scheme-set-session-buffer (session-name buffer) Record the scheme buffer used for a given session. (puthash session-name buffer org-babel-scheme-repl-map)) (defun org-babel-scheme-get-buffer-impl (buffer) Returns the scheme implementation geiser associates with the buffer. (with-current-buffer (set-buffer buffer) geiser-impl--implementation)) (defun org-babel-scheme-get-repl (impl name) Switch to a scheme REPL, creating it if it doesn't exist: (let ((buffer (org-babel-scheme-get-session-buffer name)) (window-cfg (current-window-configuration))) (or buffer (progn (run-geiser impl) (setq buffer (current-buffer)) (if name (progn (rename-buffer
Re: [O] Babel issue after upgrade to Org 8?
SabreWolfy writes: I've recently updated my Debian unstable installation and Emacs now reports this on startup: Symbol's function definition is void: org-babel-do-load-language If that's the actual error message, then you need to find where you've made the typo of leaving out the final s on that symbol name. Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldSamplesExtra
Re: [O] Very slow performance in Org-mode on 10k line file?
John Hendy writes: - make clean make make doc, which is my standard update process I should maybe point out again that this has been redundant for a long time and a simple make would suffice if you removed the line oldorg: from your local.mk file. Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ SD adaptation for Waldorf rackAttack V1.04R1: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada
[O] [CODE] org-open-link-from-string in a program
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: I'm trying to write a small function that programmatically follows a link to a gnus message, then calls `gnus-summary-wide-reply-with-original' to start a reply to that message. Okay, this seems like a fair amount of code for something that doesn't actually do all that much, but here it is. I have one capture template that incorporates a link to a gnus message in the headline (for REPLY todos), and a different one that prompts for one or more mailto: or bbdb: links, and puts them in the headline (with an EMAIL todo). Sometimes I have mailto links and message links in the same header, so I can reply to a message and copy other people on the reply. The two main functions here (org-mail-handle-mail and org-mail-handle-mail-agenda) look at the headline under point and hopefully DTRT with the links they find there. Like I said, the whole point of this is single-key-in, single-key-out capturing and handling of email todos. Things that are weird: 1. I've used an org-mail prefix, which doesn't otherwise exist. 2. It assumes you're using gnus 3. It assumes you want to reply to messages using `gnus-wide-reply-with-original' 4. It still seems a wee bit fragile. Gnus doesn't take kindly to be operated non-interactively; I've used call-interactively where I can, just in case, but sometimes odd things happen. Anyway, there it is. I'd be happy to stick it on worg, put it in contrib, or just leave it here. If anyone wants it tweaked or expanded or generalized (it doesn't do org-contact contacts, for example), just let me know. (defvar org-mail-window-conf nil Save org-buffer window configuration here, for later restoration.) (defun org-mail-restore-after-send () (gnus-summary-exit nil t) (when (window-configuration-p org-mail-window-conf) (set-window-configuration org-mail-window-conf)) (call-interactively 'org-agenda-todo)) (defun org-mail-handle-mail (optional interactive-p) Handle mail-related links for current headline. tC (interactive p) (unless (org-back-to-heading t) (error Not in an org item)) (when interactive-p (setq org-mail-window-conf (current-window-configuration))) (let ((todo-kwd (org-element-property :todo-keyword (org-element-at-point))) message mailto) (while (re-search-forward org-any-link-re (line-end-position) t) (let ((addr (or (match-string-no-properties 2) (match-string-no-properties 0 (cond ((string-match ^?gnus: addr) (push (substring addr (match-end 0)) message)) ((string-match ^?mailto:; addr) (push (substring addr (match-end 0)) mailto)) ((and (featurep 'bbdb) (string-match-p ^?bbdb: addr)) (with-current-buffer bbdb-buffer-name (let ((recs bbdb-records)) (org-open-link-from-string addr) (let ((mail (bbdb-mail-address (bbdb-current-record (bbdb-display-records recs) (push mail mailto (cond (message (org-gnus-open (org-link-unescape (car message))) (call-interactively 'gnus-summary-wide-reply-with-original) (when mailto (message-goto-to) (insert , ) (insert (mapconcat 'identity mailto , )) (message-goto-body)) (add-to-list 'message-exit-actions 'org-mail-restore-after-send t)) (mailto (compose-mail (mapconcat 'identity mailto , ) nil nil nil nil nil nil 'org-mail-restore-after-send)) (t (error No mail-related links in headline) (defun org-mail-handle-mail-agenda () Examine item at point for mail-related links, and handle them. (interactive) (org-agenda-check-type t 'agenda 'timeline 'todo 'tags) (org-agenda-check-no-diary) (let* ((marker (or (org-get-at-bol 'org-hd-marker) (org-agenda-error))) (buffer (marker-buffer marker)) (pos (marker-position marker))) (setq org-mail-window-conf (current-window-configuration)) (with-current-buffer buffer (widen) (goto-char pos) (org-mail-handle-mail
