date:20140106

Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de writes:

 I just wanted to update to the newest git and I get repeatedly the error

   Cannot open load file: avl-tree

This is weird.  avl-tree is in Emacs since 2007.

What (require 'avl-tree) returns?

Maybe ask the maintainers of the darwin port.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: [O] [PATCH] Re: \newpage in HTML export

Hi Suvayu,

Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes:

 It already exists:

   http://orgmode.org/worg/exporters/filter-markup.html

 Maybe this can be improved?

This is the documentation for export filters, with some example.

But it is not clear that this page welcome new contributed
filters, and I think it does not.

I think having another page would help.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: [O] help with porting babel example on worg to latest version

Hi Christian,

Christian Wittern cwitt...@gmail.com writes:

 #+name: fibonacci-inputs
 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |  5 |  6 |  7 |  8 |  9 | 10 |
 | 2 | 4 | 6 | 8 | 10 | 12 | 14 | 16 | 18 | 20 |


 #+name: fibonacci-seq(fib-inputs=fibonacci-inputs)
 #+begin_src emacs-lisp
(defun fibonacci (n)
  (if (or (= n 0) (= n 1))
  n
(+ (fibonacci (- n 1)) (fibonacci (- n 2)

(mapcar (lambda (row)
  (mapcar #'fibonacci row)) fib-inputs)
 #+end_src

I think you need

  #+headers: fibonacci-seq(fib-inputs=fibonacci-inputs)

instead of #+name above.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: [O] Bug? Problem compiling git - Cannot open file: avl

2014-01-06 Thread Rainer M Krug

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On 01/06/14, 10:40 , Bastien wrote:

avl-tree

even when starting with -Q

My guess is that not the homebrew version of emacs is called for
compiling, but the in OS X buildin one, which does not have avl-tree
(to old).

So I now renamed the build-in emacs and tried to update again - now it
works.

The problem seems to been that

a) in my PATH, the /usr/bin (where the build in is located) comes
before /usr/local/bin (where the homebrew is installed).

b) I have set an alias in bash, so that emacs calls the homebrew version

c) the make script somehow does use the PATH but not the alias.

Is this normal, or something unusual in the org make process?

Thanks,

Rainer




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Re: [O] Bug? Problem compiling git - Cannot open file: avl

2014-01-06 Thread Rainer M Krug

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On 01/06/14, 10:40 , Bastien wrote:
 Rainer M Krug rai...@krugs.de writes:
 
 I just wanted to update to the newest git and I get repeatedly 
 the error
 
 Cannot open load file: avl-tree
 
 This is weird.  avl-tree is in Emacs since 2007.
 
 What (require 'avl-tree) returns?
avl-tree

even when starting with -Q

My guess is that not the homebrew version of emacs is called for
compiling, but the in OS X buildin one, which does not have avl-tree
(to old).

So I now renamed the build-in emacs and tried to update again - now it
works.

The problem seems to been that

a) in my PATH, the /usr/bin (where the build in is located) comes
before /usr/local/bin (where the homebrew is installed).

b) I have set an alias in bash, so that emacs calls the homebrew version

c) the make script somehow does use the PATH but not the alias.

Is this normal, or something unusual in the org make process?

Thanks,

Rainer


 
 Maybe ask the maintainers of the darwin port.
 

- -- 
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation
Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch University
South Africa

Tel :   +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
Cell:   +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax :   +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44

email:  rai...@krugs.de

Skype:  RMkrug
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Re: [O] problem of path in using ox-bibtex

2014-01-06 Thread Joseph Vidal-Rosset

2014/1/5 Julian Gehring julian.gehr...@gmail.com

 Have you tried to specify the full path without the expansion of '~' (i.e.
 replacing the ~ with /home/USER/ or equivalent)?  At least, this seems
 to eliminate the error message of bibtex2html failing.


Sorry Julian, I reply too lately, but I have had some problems with my O.S.

No, I confirm that I need

#+BIBLIOGRAPHY: references plain option:-a limit:t

i.e. the references.bib file in the same folder of the paper.org file and
that


#+BIBLIOGRAPHY: /home/joseph/Dropbox/Bibliographies/references plain
option:-a limit:t

makes bibtex2html fails.

That'not a real problem. I am going to learn how organize my folders for
publishing with org.

Best wishes

Jo.

Re: [O] help with porting babel example on worg to latest version

2014-01-06 Thread Miguel Ruiz

What's the problem with:


#+name: fibonacci-inputs
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |  5 |  6 |  7 |  8 |  9 | 10 |
| 2 | 4 | 6 | 8 | 10 | 12 | 14 | 16 | 18 | 20 |


#+name: fibonacci-seq
#+begin_src emacs-lisp :var fib-inputs=fibonacci-inputs
  (defun fibonacci (n)
    (if (or (= n 0) (= n 1))
    n
  (+ (fibonacci (- n 1)) (fibonacci (- n 2)

  (mapcar (lambda (row)
    (mapcar #'fibonacci row)) fib-inputs)
#+end_src

#+RESULTS:
 fibonacci-seq
| 1 | 1 | 2 |  3 |  5 |   8 |  13 |  21 |   34 |   55 |
| 1 | 3 | 8 | 21 | 55 | 144 | 377 | 987 | 2584 | 6765 |

?





El Lunes 6 de enero de 2014 8:03, Christian Wittern cwitt...@gmail.com 
escribió:
 
Hi there,

I am trying to understand how to use information from an org table as input 
for a babel function.
For this purpose, I
 looked at the example at 
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/intro.html#arguments-to-source-code-blocks

It seems that this is using the old syntax, eg. #+tblname, which seems to be 
just #+name now.  But even with this change I can not reproduce the result.  
With the following code, I get the message Symbol's value as variable is 
void: fib-inputs when doing C-c on the src.  I am sure there are more 
changes I need to make, but I can't figure it out.  Any help appreciated.
Here is the code so far:

#+name: fibonacci-inputs
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |  5 |  6 |  7 |  8 |  9 | 10 |
| 2 | 4 | 6 | 8 | 10 | 12 | 14 | 16 | 18 | 20 |


#+name: fibonacci-seq(fib-inputs=fibonacci-inputs)
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
   (defun fibonacci (n)
 
    (if (or (= n 0) (= n 1))
         n
       (+ (fibonacci (- n 1)) (fibonacci (- n 2)

   (mapcar (lambda (row)
             (mapcar #'fibonacci row)) fib-inputs)
#+end_src


All the best,

Christian

-- 
Christian Wittern, Kyoto

Re: [O] problem of path in using ox-bibtex

2014-01-06 Thread Fabrice Popineau

Does this :
http://blog.jansoehlke.com/?Recipesnr=62
help to run bibtex2html in different directories ?

basically: either export TMPDIR=. or change open_any in texmf.cnf.

Fabrice



2014/1/6 Joseph Vidal-Rosset joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com


 2014/1/5 Julian Gehring julian.gehr...@gmail.com

 Have you tried to specify the full path without the expansion of '~'
 (i.e. replacing the ~ with /home/USER/ or equivalent)?  At least, this
 seems to eliminate the error message of bibtex2html failing.


 Sorry Julian, I reply too lately, but I have had some problems with my
 O.S.

 No, I confirm that I need

 #+BIBLIOGRAPHY: references plain option:-a limit:t

 i.e. the references.bib file in the same folder of the paper.org file and
 that


 #+BIBLIOGRAPHY: /home/joseph/Dropbox/Bibliographies/references plain
 option:-a limit:t

 makes bibtex2html fails.

 That'not a real problem. I am going to learn how organize my folders for
 publishing with org.

 Best wishes

 Jo.




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[O] Parsing Org-mode in Python (was: Implementing Org-mode tools in languages other than ELISP)

2014-01-06 Thread Karl Voit

Hi!

* Daniel Clemente n142...@gmail.com wrote:

I dream of having a general Python parser for Org mode files, knowing
every bit about the current syntax for Org files, surrounded by enough
Python machinery to make it useful.

Oh, this would be great since there are way more Python-coders out
there as ELISP coders.

Try PyOrgMode (https://github.com/bjonnh/PyOrgMode), it works for
some files (but still needs corrections: it crashes with date
formats, with bold markers, etc.).

For my blogging system I am implementing [4] I was doing some
research on current Org-parsers in Python.

My notes about PyOrgMode (2013-05) were that there is not much of a
documentation to use it properly and that the list of open todos
contains rather basic things to consider it elaborated enough.

So far, I consider my own Python parser[1] as the most advanced
Python parser so far (unfortunately). However, I am completely aware
of its downsides:

- it's a very primitive line-by-line parser and not using any classical
parsing tool at all (works for me so far!)
- it's currently limited to a few Org-mode elements so that I can
continue to develop my blogging system
- more Org-mode elements (not all!) will be added when my blogging
system gets stable enough to add Org-mode syntax features such
as tables.
- it's not written with the premise to be a stand-alone Org-mode
parser since I only need it for my blogging system
- feel free to use it and modify it to be a stand-alone parser

I do think that for a more general approach, somebody should develop
an Org-mode Python parser with classical parsing engines. I do have
some experience with ply[2]. Unfortunately, I have to say that using
ply feels a bit awkward in Python. I did not get the impression that
this is a parsing engine that is done the Python way. A lot of
things are done by convention (naming stuff, and so on) which has
certain limitations in details. And AFAIR there were more things that
puzzled me. However, it got my (simple) job [3] done back then.

You don't need a Lisp interpreter written in Python, only Python
code that understands org syntax without getting confused.

I am no expert in this. I do feel that if you are going to use a
ELISP interpreter to parse Org-mode syntax for Python, this should
completely re-use the original Org-parser and nothing else. I have
no idea if this is possible or not.

If you have to implement a parser on your own, you probably should
stick to Python-only.

In order to avoid confusion, your own Python parser implements only
a very well defined and documented sub-set of Org-mode syntax and
should accept/parse everything else als ordinary text (content).
IMHO.

HTH.

1. https://github.com/novoid/lazyblorg/blob/master/lib/orgparser.py
2. http://www.dabeaz.com/ply/
3.
https://github.com/novoid/2011-04-tagstore-formal-experiment/tree/master/analysis_and_derived_data/scripts
4. https://github.com/novoid/lazyblorg
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get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs

https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github

Re: [O] email - TODO items?

2014-01-06 Thread Karl Voit

* Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com wrote:

 Sometimes it's much quicker and easier to email myself notes on things
 to do. 

Using email for a todo management system has many disadvantages. I
read a *lot* about those attempts.

For the purpose you were mentioning, I am using MobileOrg (Android)
to quickly capture notes about todos. This way, I get those todos in
my inbox.org and refile them every other day.

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get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs 

https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github

Re: [O] problem of path in using ox-bibtex

2014-01-06 Thread Joseph Vidal-Rosset

Hello Fabrice,

2014/1/6 Fabrice Popineau fabrice.popin...@supelec.fr

 http://blog.jansoehlke.com/?Recipesnr=62
 help to run bibtex2html in different directories ?


No, I got always the same message but I have not changed all texmf.cnf
files, but only the file of the path indicated in this blog.
Thanks for your help. I have decided to find the solution with org-publish,
in orgazing my folders as it is suggested here :

 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-publish-html-tutorial.html

it is maybe a good solution...

Meilleurs voeux pour cette année 2014, et encore merci !

Joseph

Re: [O] html checkbox output

Hello,

Bastien b...@gnu.org writes:

 Hi Nicolas and Rick,

 Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 A new buffer keyword (which needs to be documented in org.texi),
 a defcustom with a completely free sexp... Isn't it a bit too much for
 mere checkboxes?

 Personally I think the defcustom is enough, as this choice is likely
 to be made for all Org documents.

 Filters provide almost the same functionality:

   (defun my-checkbox-filter (item backend info)
 (when (org-export-derived-backend-p backend 'html)
   (replace-regexp-in-string 
 \\`.*\\(code\\[\\(X\\|#xa0;\\|-\\)\\]/code\\).*$
 (lambda (rep)
   (let ((check (match-string 2 rep)))
 (cond ((equal check X) #x2611;)
   ((equal check -) #x2610;)
   (t #x2610;
 item
 nil nil 1)))
   (add-to-list 'org-export-filter-item-functions 'my-checkbox-filter)

 Yes, but a defcustom would be easier.

As long as it doesn't let you write completely free sexps. Otherwise,
a function is equally complex.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] Exporting markdown specific string

Hello,

Bastien b...@gnu.org writes:

 Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 #+HTML and the likes are special shortcuts for historical export
 backends, we don't plan to add more.

 What? Every back-end introduces its own specific keyword
 (#+beamer: #+ascii ...). I just added them (#+md: and #+markdown:) for
 md back-end.

 Ah, my mistake.

 (I had a memory of a conversation about #+HTML looked too ad hoc,
 and in my memories you convinced me that we should not add more of
 these keywords.  But maybe you didn't convince me then!)

I don't like them much (as they are redundant) so it's well possible we
had this conversation. For some reason they now exist, for the worse or
the better, in every core back-end.

Though, they are not mandatory for new back-ends. Only documentation can
tell if such a keyword exists for a given back-end (which reminds me
that the recently introduced keywords are not documented yet).


Regards,

-- 
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[O] patch for worg (was:Re: help with porting babel example on worg to latest version)

2014-01-06 Thread Christian Wittern


Thanks Miguel,
On 2014-01-06, 19:27, Miguel Ruiz wrote:


#+begin_src emacs-lisp :var fib-inputs=fibonacci-inputs


This magic line does the trick.

I created a patch for this, attached.  I tried to follow the instructions, 
but since this is the first time, please be patient if something went wrong.


Cheers,  Christian

--
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From 08b07bbdd88bd78dd880a726f875ac167d4e2597 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Chris Wittern chris@mbp3
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 20:57:48 +0900
Subject: [PATCH] Adopted the fibonacci example to Org 8.x syntax

---
 org-contrib/babel/intro.org | 10 +-
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/org-contrib/babel/intro.org b/org-contrib/babel/intro.org
index 88eefc9..99a25a2 100644
--- a/org-contrib/babel/intro.org
+++ b/org-contrib/babel/intro.org
@@ -498,7 +498,7 @@ Now we use the source block:
 
  Here is the Org-mode table that is passed to =fibonacci-seq=:
 
-#+tblname: fibonacci-inputs
+#+name: fibonacci-inputs
 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |  5 |  6 |  7 |  8 |  9 | 10 |
 | 2 | 4 | 6 | 8 | 10 | 12 | 14 | 16 | 18 | 20 |
 
@@ -508,8 +508,8 @@ The table looks like this in the Org-mode buffer:
 : | 2 | 4 | 6 | 8 | 10 | 12 | 14 | 16 | 18 | 20 |
 
 The [[http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/elisp.html][Emacs Lisp]] source 
code:
-#+name: fibonacci-seq(fib-inputs=fibonacci-inputs)
-#+begin_src emacs-lisp
+#+name: fibonacci-seq
+#+begin_src emacs-lisp :var fib-inputs=fibonacci-inputs 
   (defun fibonacci (n)
 (if (or (= n 0) (= n 1))
 n
@@ -520,8 +520,8 @@ The 
[[http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/elisp.html][Emacs Lisp]] source c
 #+end_src
 
 In the Org-mode buffer the function looks like this:
-: #+name: fibonacci-seq(fib-inputs=fibonacci-inputs)
-: #+begin_src emacs-lisp
+: #+name: fibonacci-seq
+: #+begin_src emacs-lisp :var fib-inputs=fibonacci-inputs 
 :   (defun fibonacci (n)
 : (if (or (= n 0) (= n 1))
 : n
-- 
1.8.3.4 (Apple Git-47)

Re: [O] bulk org-agenda-do-date-later problem OMG BACKTRACE ATTACHED

Douglas zaphod4...@aol.com writes:

 I followed the directions in Feedback, so I believe the backtrace was
 from uncompiled code.


Trust me, it wasn't. The Feedback section does not explain all of the details,
primarily because the details depend on how exactly you have installed
org-mode: there are many possibilities here, so the explanation would
get complicated fast. The idea however is that you have to delete all
the .elc files from wherever you are loading your org-mode and reload
org-mode.

-- 
Nick

Re: [O] email - TODO items?

2014-01-06 Thread Peter Davis


On Mon, Jan 6, 2014, at 05:51 AM, Karl Voit wrote:
 * Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com wrote:
 
  Sometimes it's much quicker and easier to email myself notes on things
  to do. 
 
 Using email for a todo management system has many disadvantages. I
 read a *lot* about those attempts.
 
 For the purpose you were mentioning, I am using MobileOrg (Android)
 to quickly capture notes about todos. This way, I get those todos in
 my inbox.org and refile them every other day.
 

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into them.

Strictly speaking, these are not TODO items, but ideas and notes for
blog posts I may want to write. The email approach has been ok, but
since I typically expand on these short notes in org-mode, it would be
useful to be able to import them directly. But I'll certainly look at
these alternatives.

Thanks!

-pd


-- 
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  www.techcurmudgeon.com

Re: [O] Bug: HTML Export doesn't handle internal link with spaces [8.0.7 (8.0.7-6-g13cb28-elpa @ /home/jbalint/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20130812/)]

Bastien b...@gnu.org writes:

 Another idea would be to get rid of automatic hexification in all cases,
 and have more tolerant regexps for links.

 This seems incertain.

How so? Accepting balanced pairs of square brackets is better than no
closing square bracket at all.

 Or maybe we can just live with the current problem.

Probably, yes. But I have the feeling we encounter the problem again.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] html checkbox output

Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 As long as it doesn't let you write completely free sexps.

I agree.  But this is a very minor issue with Rick's patch,
the bulk of the work is done and I'd be glad to see it applied,
with the limitations we've been discussing.  If Rick is on it,
let's wait for this.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: [O] patch for worg

Hi Christian,

Christian Wittern cwitt...@gmail.com writes:

 This magic line does the trick.

Applied, thanks!

 I created a patch for this, attached.  I tried to follow the
 instructions, but since this is the first time, please be patient if
 something went wrong.

Things went fine.  Please send me your public key if you want to get
direct push access to Worg.

Best,

-- 
 Bastien

[O] gnus: link annoyance

Hi, Org people.

Still playing with one of my little tools (called org-grep), I added the
capability of searching Unix mailbox (producing rmail: links) and Gnus
mailgroups (producing gnus: links).  This resurrected an old gnus:
annoyance I once reported on this mailing list, yet without being able
to convince anybody there was a problem.  I dare trying again! :-)

Whenever I visit a gnus: type link from Org, it has the side effect of
reading the article in Gnus parlance, forcing me to unread it each
time afterwards.  If I forget to unread it, which is a likely error, the
article will not be shown if I later visit its mailgroup using Gnus in a
regular way.  So in practice, it is kind of forever lost.

This is a sad side-effect of gnus: links.  In this area, Org should
immediately unread any gnus: link it follows, or else and maybe even
better, leave the reached article with the flags it already has.  If the
user explicitly saved the article in an Org file using org-store-link,
(s)he surely though of it as kind of permanent, and Org should then not
read it, even the user did not bang it.  If the link is dynamically
created like with org-grep, and the user happens to follow one of these
links among many others, the user should not be punished by loosing
the article because (s)he forgot to explicitly unread it :-).

François

P.S. Who also has a question about rmail: and gnus: links.  Is there
a way in the link syntax allowing a precise line positioning within the
article?  It would be wonderful for org-grep, that would then make great
use of such a possibility.

[O] Bug: property drawer created within other drawers

2014-01-06 Thread Derek Feichtinger

Dear developers

Property drawers for certain items end up getting created within an
already existing LOGBOOK drawer.

The problem is that the first while loop in org-insert-property-drawer
is also matching CLOCK lines within the drawer, so it reads into the
drawer instead of stopping before it. I discovered a matching report
that was already submitted by Sebastien Vauban
(http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/78881).

Problematic code in org.el:
(defun org-insert-property-drawer ()
;...
  (let ((indent (if org-adapt-indentation
(- (match-end 0) (match-beginning 0))
  0))
(beg (point))
(re (concat ^[ \t]* org-keyword-time-regexp))
end hiddenp)
(outline-next-heading)
(setq end (point))
(goto-char beg)
(while (re-search-forward re end t))   ; === problem

I did a quick fix using the following construct:

  (let ((indent (if org-adapt-indentation
(- (match-end 0) (match-beginning 0))
  0))
(beg (point))
(re (concat ^[ \t]* org-keyword-time-regexp))
end hiddenp)
(outline-next-heading)
(setq end (point))
(goto-char beg)
(next-line)
(while (looking-at re) (next-line))
(setq hiddenp (outline-invisible-p))
; comment-out: (end-of-line 1)
; comment-out: (and (equal (char-after) ?\n) (forward-char 1))

Here's a typical task, where the original code will fail and place the
property drawer just before the end of the LOGBOOK drawer.

*** DONE some task
CLOSED: [2013-07-10 Wed 14:11] DEADLINE: 2013-06-03 Mon SCHEDULED:
2013-07-08 Mon
:LOGBOOK:
- State DONE   from WAIT   [2013-07-10 Wed 14:11]
CLOCK: [2013-05-17 Fri 17:07]--[2013-05-17 Fri 17:16] =  0:09
CLOCK: [2013-05-08 Wed 14:30]--[2013-05-08 Wed 15:30] =  1:00
CLOCK: [2013-05-06 Mon 14:55]--[2013-05-06 Mon 15:30] =  0:35
- State WAIT   from TODO   [2013-04-03 Wed 14:31] \\
  sent mail
- State TODO   from DONE   [2013-03-20 Wed 11:25]
- State DONE   from TODO   [2012-11-22 Thu 15:05]
CLOCK: [2012-11-22 Thu 14:40]--[2012-11-22 Thu 15:04] =  0:24
- State TODO   from[2012-11-20 Tue 16:14]
:END:
- bla
- some more bla


Emacs  : GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2)
 of 2014-01-03 on akhlut, modified by Debian
Package: Org-mode version 8.2.4 (8.2.4-18-g4ee7e6-elpaplus @
/home/dfeich/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20131230/)

Best regards,
Derek

[O] org-cycle-hook from org-mode hook

Hi again, Org people.

I noticed a recent change in Org mode behaviour, which I guess is
related to a git pull of the org-mode project.  This is so minor that
it is hardly a problem for me, I only report it in case it would hint at
some unwanted change that would have more consequences for others.

Opening an Org file in Emacs executes the hooks on org-mode-hooks.
Previously, it also executed the hooks on org-cycle-hook, while now, I
have the impression it does not anymore.  The solution is easy for me, I
merely run my own Org cycle hook function from my main Org mode hook.

François

Re: [O] Missing patch from Eric Schulte from 2013-10-09

2014-01-06 Thread Francesco Pizzolante



Hi Bastien,

 I noticed that I miss the following patch from Eric Schulte (from 2
 months ago):
 http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/?id=15847336c39e7219e1c51c55d487f99956a06e34

 I have Org-mode version 8.2.4 (8.2.4-8-gf1b933-elpaplus @
 c:/Users/fpz/Documents/home/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20131216/)
 taken from elpa.

 When I download the current stable release of Org-mode (version 8.2.4
 from http://orgmode.org/) I see that this patch is missing too (the
 org-babel-tangle-use-relative-file-links variable is missing).

 Any chance to get this patch in elpa (without having to clone the git
 master branch)?

 The patch is in the master branch only, your best move is to clone
 org-mode and follow that branch -- or wait until we make another
 major release.

Thanks for your answer.

I understand, but I find it weird that a same version number (like
8.2.4) gives different functionalities/fixes/patches according to the
git branch you take the sources from.

If I clone the master branch, I'll have version 8.2.4 with every patch.
While if I download a version (or take it from elpa), I will also have
version 8.2.4 --- but coming from the maint branch and thus with certain
patches (not all).

Shouldn't the maintenance branch keep the same version number until
a new release is made (i.e. until the master branch is fully merged into
the maint branch)?

Maybe I'm wrong on certain points... any help on this is welcome.

Best regards,
 Francesco

[O] org-element, spurious command??

2014-01-06 Thread Robert Klein

Hi,

I've been reading lisp/org-element.el, when I found a command lounging
around in the middle of the file outside of any defun:

(put 'org-element-map 'lisp-indent-function 2)

on line 4275 (maint tree this morning).

Is this intended to be there?


PS: it is also in the master tree, line 4276.

Thanks and best regards
Robert

Re: [O] Local key binding gone wrong!

Sharon Kimble boudic...@talktalk.net writes:

 Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sharon Kimble boudic...@talktalk.net writes:
 Whilst trying to set a key binding to archive 'DONE' todo items, by
 trying to bind F13 [aka CapsLock] to '2', so the finished intended
 result would have been - F13 + 2 = DONE  ARCHIVED. This is a global
 key binding, although I was trying for a local one. How do I know its
 'global'? Because CapsLock now does not work for me to use in this
 email! 
 
 So, how do I revert CapsLock to being its intended F13 please? 
 
 If you have not added anything to .emacs (or whatever init file(s) you
 use), just restart emacs. If you have, delete it and rest
  art emacs.

 Thanks for this, I'll try it tomorrow when I'm back on the computer.


However, I noticed that you called xmodmap from emacs to modify the X
keymap - restarting emacs will not undo that side effect, but restarting
X as well should undo it.

Nick

Re: [O] org-element, spurious command??

Hello,

Robert Klein rokl...@roklein.de writes:

 I've been reading lisp/org-element.el, when I found a command lounging
 around in the middle of the file outside of any defun:

 (put 'org-element-map 'lisp-indent-function 2)

 on line 4275 (maint tree this morning).

 Is this intended to be there?

Yes, it is. `org-element-map' is defined just above. This sexp sets
indentations rules for it.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] Bug: HTML Export doesn't handle internal link with spaces [8.0.7 (8.0.7-6-g13cb28-elpa @ /home/jbalint/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20130812/)]

Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 Bastien b...@gnu.org writes:

 Another idea would be to get rid of automatic hexification in all cases,
 and have more tolerant regexps for links.

 This seems incertain.

 How so? Accepting balanced pairs of square brackets is better than no
 closing square bracket at all.

Well, I let you try this, but my guess it that the cost in terms of
regexp complexity (especially for the balanced aspects) will be a
bit too high.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca writes:

 Whenever I visit a gnus: type link from Org, it has the side effect of
 reading the article in Gnus parlance, forcing me to unread it each
 time afterwards.  If I forget to unread it, which is a likely error, the
 article will not be shown if I later visit its mailgroup using Gnus in a
 regular way.  So in practice, it is kind of forever lost.


Maybe I'm misunderstanding (not deliberately, I assure you) what you
mean but it's certainly not lost: the link continues to work, even if it
points to a read article; and visiting the group with C-u SPACE
in gnus also allows you to see previously read articles. It's only
expired articles that can never be gotten back after their expiration
period runs out.

But maybe that's what you are alluding to when you say visiting the
group in a regular way?

Nick

Re: [O] Bug: property drawer created within other drawers

Hello,

Derek Feichtinger dfe...@gmail.com writes:

 Dear developers

 Property drawers for certain items end up getting created within an
 already existing LOGBOOK drawer.

 The problem is that the first while loop in org-insert-property-drawer
 is also matching CLOCK lines within the drawer, so it reads into the
 drawer instead of stopping before it. I discovered a matching report
 that was already submitted by Sebastien Vauban
 (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/78881).

 Problematic code in org.el:
 (defun org-insert-property-drawer ()
 ;...
   (let ((indent (if org-adapt-indentation
 (- (match-end 0) (match-beginning 0))
   0))
 (beg (point))
 (re (concat ^[ \t]* org-keyword-time-regexp))
 end hiddenp)
 (outline-next-heading)
 (setq end (point))
 (goto-char beg)
 (while (re-search-forward re end t))   ; === problem

 I did a quick fix using the following construct:

   (let ((indent (if org-adapt-indentation
 (- (match-end 0) (match-beginning 0))
   0))
 (beg (point))
 (re (concat ^[ \t]* org-keyword-time-regexp))
 end hiddenp)
 (outline-next-heading)
 (setq end (point))
 (goto-char beg)
 (next-line)
 (while (looking-at re) (next-line))
 (setq hiddenp (outline-invisible-p))
 ; comment-out: (end-of-line 1)
 ; comment-out: (and (equal (char-after) ?\n) (forward-char 1))

 Here's a typical task, where the original code will fail and place the
 property drawer just before the end of the LOGBOOK drawer.

 *** DONE some task
 CLOSED: [2013-07-10 Wed 14:11] DEADLINE: 2013-06-03 Mon SCHEDULED:
 2013-07-08 Mon
 :LOGBOOK:
 - State DONE   from WAIT   [2013-07-10 Wed 14:11]
 CLOCK: [2013-05-17 Fri 17:07]--[2013-05-17 Fri 17:16] =  0:09
 CLOCK: [2013-05-08 Wed 14:30]--[2013-05-08 Wed 15:30] =  1:00
 CLOCK: [2013-05-06 Mon 14:55]--[2013-05-06 Mon 15:30] =  0:35
 - State WAIT   from TODO   [2013-04-03 Wed 14:31] \\
   sent mail
 - State TODO   from DONE   [2013-03-20 Wed 11:25]
 - State DONE   from TODO   [2012-11-22 Thu 15:05]
 CLOCK: [2012-11-22 Thu 14:40]--[2012-11-22 Thu 15:04] =  0:24
 - State TODO   from[2012-11-20 Tue 16:14]
 :END:
 - bla
 - some more bla


Thanks for the report.

It seems odd to skip so many lines in order to insert a property drawer.
Couldn't we insert it right after the planning information (i.e. before
LOGBOOK in the example)?


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] org-cycle-hook from org-mode hook

Hi François,

François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca writes:

 I noticed a recent change in Org mode behaviour, which I guess is
 related to a git pull of the org-mode project.  This is so minor that
 it is hardly a problem for me, I only report it in case it would hint at
 some unwanted change that would have more consequences for others.

Thanks for reporting this.

The commit introducing the change must be this one:
http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/?id=44acd000

 Opening an Org file in Emacs executes the hooks on org-mode-hooks.
 Previously, it also executed the hooks on org-cycle-hook, while now, I
 have the impression it does not anymore.  The solution is easy for me, I
 merely run my own Org cycle hook function from my main Org mode hook.

The function `org-set-startup-visibility' is always called when you
find an Org file interactively.  Previously, it used `org-cycle'
internally to set the visibility state.  Now it uses `org-content`
and `org-overview' instead, so that C-u C-u TAB always work.

I think it makes sense to call org-cycle-hooks *only* when cycling
manually, so the current behavior makes sense IMO.  Let me know if
you (or others) think otherwise.

-- 
 Bastien

[O] Performance issues after upgrading from Emacs 23.3 to 24.3+prelude

2014-01-06 Thread Karl Voit

Hi!

I have got very severe performance issues after I upgraded my Emacs.

Before upgrading:
- Debian stable x64
- Emacs 23.3 (Debian stable deb-package)
- Org-mode from git: version 8.2.3c (release_8.2.3c-225-g668ba5)
- no prelude

Now:
- Debian stable x64
  - no change but I replaced Debian Emacs packages with
Emacs-snapshot and MELPA/Marmelade
- Emacs-snapshot 24.3.50.1 from [1]
- Org-mode from git: version 8.2.3c (release_8.2.3c-225-g668ba5)
  - no change
- Emacs prelude from [2]


I mainly use Emacs for Org-mode and therefore I got issues only in
Org-mode. Some tasks are very slow and take 100% of a CPU core. This
is the rare occasion where I am happy that Emacs is single-threaded
:-)

Further down, there are three examples with their profiling results.
I don't know how to interpret the profiling results properly. 


Most annoying: sometimes, Emacs starts using up its CPU core at 100%
without any particular reason or event I am aware of. Probably it is
while auto-saving (not every time!) but I am not sure. 

I have no idea on how to debug this behavior because when Emacs is
blocking completely, it is not even updating its buffer display nor
reacting on C-g or similar. However, I am able to kill (with default
kill signal) the Emacs process without leaving unsaved buffers.


I guess that with Emacs prelude, I got some functionality which is
causing these issues. So this might be of interest of other
Emacs/prelude users as well.


* Example 1: moving an item in a list up/down

I just switch two lines of a simple list by invoking M-up:
- foo
- bar
- baz (is moved one line up)

This took only a fraction of a second before. Now I ave to wait
approx. 2-3 seconds.

I learned how to use the Emacs profiler and generated a CPU-report
when invoking the command: [3]

Interestingly, when I am using M-x org-move-item-up, it does not
show the slow-down effect.


* Example 2: M-up on a heading containing 2 lines of
appointments and notes

This task took almost two minutes. Before the update, this was
probably done in a couple of seconds.

Here is the CPU-report of the profiler: [4]


* Example 3: Re-calculating and formatting of a 10x10 table

The table has 10x10 cells and four very simple formulas. The
operation took approx. 1-3s before the update. Now, it takes over
four minutes.

The command invoked was: C-u C-u C-c C-c

CPU-profiling report: [5]


  1. http://emacs.naquadah.org/
  2. git://github.com/bbatsov/prelude.git
  3. http://pastebin.com/mQRDYbq7 - M-up on a list item
  4. http://pastebin.com/P2sJPsHy - moving large heading
  5. http://pastebin.com/3Kw6knYU - re-calculating table
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Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

2014-01-06 Thread Rasmus

Hi François,

Thanks for working on org-grep.  It looks interesting.

Excuse me if I misunderstood something below.

François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca writes:

 Whenever I visit a gnus: type link from Org, it has the side effect of
 reading the article in Gnus parlance, forcing me to unread it each
 time afterwards.  If I forget to unread it, which is a likely error, the
 article will not be shown if I later visit its mailgroup using Gnus in a
 regular way.  So in practice, it is kind of forever lost.
 [...]
 This is a sad side-effect of gnus: links.  In this area, Org should
 immediately unread any gnus: link it follows, or else and maybe even
 better, leave the reached article with the flags it already has.

You read it, no?  How can it not be marked read when you read it?

Perhaps you would like to the following on mailgroups you care about
(from the *Groups* buffer):

G c C-s Display S-TAB RET TAB RET 1 TAB 100 M- TAB TAB RET

Also, you can search with nnir using GG or C-u GG (but links probably
won't work from a nnir buffer).

 If the user explicitly saved the article in an Org file using
 org-store-link, (s)he surely though of it as kind of permanent,
 and Org should then not read it, even the user did not bang it.

I cannot reproduce using the following receipt: 

  1. Mark an article as important with '!',
 (gnus-summary-tick-article-forward N)
  1. (org-store-link)
  2. org-insert-link with the above link in org-buffer
  3. Open link.  My tick is preserved.

I can also change the mark to gnus-summary-mark-as-expirable and
preserve the link.  I cannot preserve an unread mark when I read it,
but it shouldn't 'cause I read the article. . .

Cheers,
Rasmus

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[O] A few configuration questions plus mode line not appearing in graphical frame

2014-01-06 Thread Subhan Tindall

Hi, I'm trying to tighten up my org setup for the new year.

I currently use a single file Work-log.org with headlines and subtrees for
tracking work  time:
IE:
(unfolded sub tree)

* JWRK PPTDEV-455 Add 'hve' to all Appropriate Library calls in
web_src/hve/scripts :455:
** WORK 2013-12-04 Wed code review, developer testing, prepare for install
   CLOCK: [2013-12-04 Wed 14:00]--[2013-12-04 Wed 15:00] =  1:00
** DONE 2013-12-02 Mon search archive for appropriate lib calls  add have
   CLOCK: [2013-12-04 Wed 13:10]--[2013-12-04 Wed 14:00] =  0:50
   CLOCK: [2013-12-03 Tue 09:15]--[2013-12-03 Tue 09:25] =  0:10
   CLOCK: [2013-12-02 Mon 15:29]--[2013-12-02 Mon 16:05] =  0:36
:PROPERTIES:


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Re: [O] A few configuration questions plus mode line not appearing in graphical frame

I think you forgot to tell us what the problem is :)

-- 
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[O] a few configuration questions plus an Effort question

2014-01-06 Thread Subhan Tindall

I'm trying to tighten up my org configuration for the new year.

I currently use a single file Work.org for tracking work, notes, and time
an a per-ticket basis
EG
* PPTDEV-511 Documentation
 :511:
** WORK investigate  document plog problem 1/3/14
   CLOCK: [2014-01-06 Mon 09:11]--[2014-01-06 Mon 09:12] =  0:01
   CLOCK: [2014-01-03 Fri 13:59]--[2014-01-03 Fri 14:35] =  0:36
   :PROPERTIES:
   :Effort:   1
   :END:
* JWRK PPTDEV-455 Add 'hve' to all Appropriate Library calls in
web_src/hve/scripts :455:
** WORK 2013-12-04 Wed code review, developer testing, prepare for install
   CLOCK: [2013-12-04 Wed 14:00]--[2013-12-04 Wed 15:00] =  1:00
** DONE 2013-12-02 Mon search archive for appropriate lib calls  add have
   CLOCK: [2013-12-04 Wed 13:10]--[2013-12-04 Wed 14:00] =  0:50
   CLOCK: [2013-12-03 Tue 09:15]--[2013-12-03 Tue 09:25] =  0:10
   CLOCK: [2013-12-02 Mon 15:29]--[2013-12-02 Mon 16:05] =  0:36

I have columns set up
#+COLUMNS: %58ITEM(Details) %TAGS(Context) %5TODO(ToDo) %6CLOCKSUM(Tot)
%6CLOCKSUM_T(Today) %10Effort(Est){:}

for the file.
When I run my daily agenda, I can get to column mode and see my various
effort times.  However,
I lose all my structure that tells me what headlines belong in which
subtrees. My column %TAGS shows empty for all but top-level tasks as the
tags are inherited, not explicitly set.

Is there a setting I should be using to make inherited tags appear here? I
haven't been able to find one.  Or, even better, a way to make the effort
estimates show up in the agenda clock table just like the time summaries?
Or even just a way to add an overlay either to the main file or the agenda
to show them?

Second, my currently clocking task info appears in the window titles with I
am in terminal mode, but not when I have a graphic window -
using gnome terminal and Ubuntu
emacs 23
Org 8

Thanks!



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Re: [O] A few configuration questions plus mode line not appearing in graphical frame

2014-01-06 Thread Subhan Tindall

Fat fingers and/or lack of coffee was the problem, sent it out to early!
Sorry.


On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote:

 I think you forgot to tell us what the problem is :)

 --
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Re: [O] bulk org-agenda-do-date-later problem OMG BACKTRACE ATTACHED

2014-01-06 Thread Achim Gratz

Nick Dokos writes:
 The idea however is that you have to delete all
 the .elc files from wherever you are loading your org-mode and reload
 org-mode.

The easier way is to simply do either of:

C-u M-x org-reload
C-u C-c C-x !

The latter only works from an org-mode buffer.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] Bug? Problem compiling git - Cannot open file: avl

2014-01-06 Thread Achim Gratz

Rainer M Krug writes:
 The problem seems to been that

 a) in my PATH, the /usr/bin (where the build in is located) comes
 before /usr/local/bin (where the homebrew is installed).

Except when root, it is almost always wrong to have /usr/local/bin after
any system paths.

 b) I have set an alias in bash, so that emacs calls the homebrew
 version

Depending on where and how you define that alias, sub-shells may or may
not see it.  It is generally a bad idea to rely on aliases for anything
but interactive work.

 c) the make script somehow does use the PATH but not the alias.

Not if EMACS is defined with an absolute path in local.mk.  Also, emacs
should actually be a link to emacs-maj.min (where maj.min denotes Emacs'
version), so if you want to use a specific Emacs rather than the
default, you should again define this in local.mk.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] Missing patch from Eric Schulte from 2013-10-09

2014-01-06 Thread Achim Gratz

Francesco Pizzolante writes:
 I understand, but I find it weird that a same version number (like
 8.2.4) gives different functionalities/fixes/patches according to the
 git branch you take the sources from.

You don't understand what the version numbers mean.

 Shouldn't the maintenance branch keep the same version number until
 a new release is made (i.e. until the master branch is fully merged into
 the maint branch)?

The maint branch contains the release (8.2.4 for your example) plus
those patches that are purely bugfixes (i.e. do not alter, remove or
introduce features).  In your example, eight such patches had
accumulated, placing you at commit f1b933: release_8.2.4-8-gf1b9339.

The master branch includes everything on maint plus any patches that
alter, remove or introduce features.  That amounted to 350 commits past
the 8.2.4 release at the merge into master (d55f06), including those
eight from maint: release_8.2.4-350-gd55f063.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] email - TODO items?

2014-01-06 Thread Brett Viren

Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes:

 I use half a dozen email clients, including mutt, which lets me easily
 pipe a message to a script.

The need to support multiple clients may rule out my suggestion but
capturing a TODO or a note while visiting a GNUS message and thus
preserving the link back to the article that spawned my task/idea is
fantastically useful.

In your pipe scheme maybe there is some way you can preserve this link
back.

-Brett.


pgpeqX1xVTzBZ.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Re: [O] Local key binding gone wrong!

2014-01-06 Thread Marc Ihm


Hi Sharon !

Setting CapsLock to f13 is a neat trick !

Maybe this could help with the rest of your question:

(global-set-key (kbd f13)
(lambda (ARG) (interactive c)
  (org-todo (string-to-number (char-to-string ARG)))
  (org-archive-subtree)))


at least it does this for me:

- Set the current node to the TODO state given through the second key after f13
- Archive the node afterwards.


regards
Marc


Am 05.01.2014 21:43, schrieb Sharon Kimble:

Sharon Kimble boudic...@talktalk.net wrote:

Thanks Marc.
Here it is -
(if (eq window-system 'x)
(shell-command xmodmap -e 'clear Lock' -e 'keycode 66 = F13'))
(global-set-key [f13] 'execute-extended-command)  ;;sets caps-lock as 
meta-key

Sharon.

On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 20:36:20 +0100
Marc-Oliver Ihm m...@ihm.name wrote:

Hi Sharon,

not sure, what happened in your setup. Maybe things can get clearer,
if you would supply the line of lisp that you employed to bind F13.
Was it something like

(global-set-key [(f13)] 'org-archive-subtree)

?

regards
Marc


Am 05.01.201 4 04:35, schrieb Sharon Kimble:

Whilst trying to set a key binding to archive 'DONE' todo items, by
trying to bind F13 [aka CapsLock] to '2', so the finished intended
result would have been - F13 + 2 = DONE  ARCHIVED. This is a global
key binding, although I was trying for a local one. How do I know
its 'global'? Because CapsLock now does not work for me to use in
this email!

So, how do I revert CapsLock to being its intended F13 please? And
how do I set up a local key binding to avoid this situation in the
future please?

Thanks
Sharon.






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Thinking about it, that is the original code in my .emacs which set it up 
correctly. The code that I typed in, in the mini-buffer was a local key-binding 
from the wikemacs site. Sorry I can't be more precise as I'm no longer at my 
computer.

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[O] Using org-diary

2014-01-06 Thread Stephen J . Barr

Greetings org-mode,

I am trying to use org-class to put in my regularly scheduled
events. The following snippet is my attempt to put in a regularly
scheduled Monday-evening event. This is in a file that is included in my
org-agenda-files, yet when I look at my agenda, this does not show up!



*** Teaching
%%(org-class 2014 1 6 2014 3 10 1 1) 7:00pm-8:30pm



I would appreciate any advice on this.

Thanks,
Stephen

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Re: [O] Local key binding gone wrong!

2014-01-06 Thread Sharon Kimble

Marc Ihm m...@ihm.name wrote:
Hi Sharon !

Setting CapsLock to f13 is a neat trick !

Maybe this could help with the rest of your question:

(global-set-key (kbd f13)
 (lambda (ARG) (interactive c)
   (org-todo (string-to-number (char-to-string ARG)))
   (org-archive-subtree)))


at least it does this for me:

- Set the current node to the TODO state given through the second key
after f13
- Archive the node afterwards.


regards
Marc


Am 05.01.2014 21:43, schrieb Sharon Kimble:
 Sharon Kimble boudic...@talktalk.net wrote:

 Thanks Marc.
 Here it is -
 (if (eq window-system 'x)
 (shell-command xmodmap -e 'clear Lock' -e 'keycode 66 = F13'))
 (global-set-key [f13] 'execute-extended-command)  ;;sets
caps-lock as meta-key

 Sharon.

 On Sun, 05 Jan 2014 20:36:20 +0100
 Marc-Oliver Ihm m...@ihm.name wrote:

 Hi Sharon,

 not sure, what happened in your setup. Maybe things can get
clearer,
 if you would supply the line of lisp that you employed to
bind F13.
 Was it something like

 (global-set-key [(f13)] 'org-archive-subtree)

 ?

 regards
 Marc


 Am 05.01.201 4 04:35, schrieb Sharon Kimble:

 Whilst trying to set a key binding to archive 'DONE' todo
items, by
 trying to bind F13 [aka CapsLock] to '2', so the finished
intended
 result would have been - F13 + 2 = DONE  ARCHIVED. This
is a global
 key binding, although I was trying for a local one. How
do I know
 its 'global'? Because CapsLock now does not work for me
to use in
 this email!

 So, how do I revert CapsLock to being its intended F13
please? And
 how do I set up a local key binding to avoid this
situation in the
 future please?

 Thanks
 Sharon.






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 Thinking about it, that is the original code in my .emacs which set
it up correctly. The code that I typed in, in the mini-buffer was a
local key-binding from the wikemacs site. Sorry I can't be more precise
as I'm no longer at my computer.

 Sharon.
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Sounds interesting, I'll have a play with it tomorrow when I'm back on the 
computer. And today when I went on it, caps lock had reset itself back to 'M-x' 
 I'm glad to say. :-) 

Thanks 
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Re: [O] Using org-diary

Stephen J. Barr stev...@uw.edu writes:

 Greetings org-mode,

 I am trying to use org-class to put in my regularly scheduled
 events. The following snippet is my attempt to put in a regularly
 scheduled Monday-evening event. This is in a file that is included in my
 org-agenda-files, yet when I look at my agenda, this does not show up!

 

 *** Teaching
 %%(org-class 2014 1 6 2014 3 10 1 1) 7:00pm-8:30pm

 

 I would appreciate any advice on this.


Tested it with a minimal .enacs and it works fine for me:

Org-mode version 8.2.4 (release_8.2.4-410-ge23bbd)

Nick

Re: [O] Using org-diary

2014-01-06 Thread Stephen J. Barr

What I am now seeing is that the particular date gets picked up, but not
the time. Am I doing something incorrect with the syntax?

Best,
Stephen


On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Stephen J. Barr stev...@uw.edu writes:

  Greetings org-mode,
 
  I am trying to use org-class to put in my regularly scheduled
  events. The following snippet is my attempt to put in a regularly
  scheduled Monday-evening event. This is in a file that is included in my
  org-agenda-files, yet when I look at my agenda, this does not show up!
 
  
 
  *** Teaching
  %%(org-class 2014 1 6 2014 3 10 1 1) 7:00pm-8:30pm
 
  
 
  I would appreciate any advice on this.
 

 Tested it with a minimal .enacs and it works fine for me:

 Org-mode version 8.2.4 (release_8.2.4-410-ge23bbd)

 Nick

Re: [O] Using org-diary

Stephen J. Barr stev...@uw.edu writes:

 What I am now seeing is that the particular date gets picked up, but not the 
 time. Am I doing something incorrect with the
 syntax?


No, I believe that's a limitation of what you can do with these
diary-sexps.

You can always add the time to the headline: that way it'll appear in
the agenda (but not in the grid, if you use that, and not sorted
correctly - the time is just a label):

*** Teaching 7:00pm-8:30pm
   %%(org-class 2014 1 6 2014 3 10 1 1)

Nick

Re: [O] Using org-diary

2014-01-06 Thread Stephen J. Barr

So, from a broader perspective, perhaps this org-class stuff is not the
right way to go. I am also noticing that the icalendar-export does not seem
to be exporting these diary-sexps anyway. Perhaps I can
use org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift to do most of what I want.

Best,
Stephen


On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Stephen J. Barr stev...@uw.edu writes:

  What I am now seeing is that the particular date gets picked up, but not
 the time. Am I doing something incorrect with the
  syntax?
 

 No, I believe that's a limitation of what you can do with these
 diary-sexps.

 You can always add the time to the headline: that way it'll appear in
 the agenda (but not in the grid, if you use that, and not sorted
 correctly - the time is just a label):

 *** Teaching 7:00pm-8:30pm
%%(org-class 2014 1 6 2014 3 10 1 1)

 Nick

[O] does org-mode modify input events?

2014-01-06 Thread John Kitchin

Hi all,

In this post, I was looking at some ways to get right clicks to do
something on org-links:
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2013/10/21/Enabling-right-clicks-in-org-mode-links/

I noticed some odd behavior in that the last-input-event is mouse-2 whether
I press mouse-1 or mouse-2 when clicking on a link. It is also interesting
the event is of type mouse-2, and not down-mouse-2.

Does anyone know if org-mode makes a mouse-1 click into a mouse-2 event
somehow? Is that happening from this line

(org-defkey org-mouse-map [mouse-2] 'org-open-at-mouse)

in org.el?

Does anyone know to get something like this from the click event that
occurred on the link?

(princ (read-event))

 (S-down-mouse-1 (#window 34 on blog.org 56725 (1 . 299) -322897656
nil 56725 (0 . 18) nil (1 . 11) (8 . 16)))


that is shift-mouse-1 event.

Thanks!

John

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Re: [O] org-cycle-hook from org-mode hook

Bastien b...@gnu.org writes:

 Now it uses `org-content` and `org-overview' instead, so that C-u C-u
 TAB always work.

I did not immediately find the documentation about C-u C-u TAB, which is
in the node Initial visibility.  The node Global and local cycling
documents TAB, C-u TAB and C-u C-u C-u TAB, but surprisingly, not C-u
C-u TAB.  Maybe some linking between those two manual nodes would be
useful to other users, when they happen to be as anal as I am? :-)

François

P.S. anal in the Piagetian meaning of the word, of course!  People
suffering from anal disorder are either ultra-meticulous, or completely
disorganized.  Most of the time, I see myself as being from the former
species, yet some days, I confess, I feel like I am from the later.

Re: [O] Org-drill installation

2014-01-06 Thread Todd Neufeld

Bastien bzg at gnu.org writes:
 I suggest you try using a more recent version
   [And adjust your load-path accordingly...]

Bastien,

I downloaded a more recent version from Git.
It took me some time to set up the load-path correctly...
But I got it eventually and Org-drill now works for me.

Thanks very much !

todd

Re: [O] Implementing Org-mode tools in languages other than ELISP

Daniel Clemente n142...@gmail.com writes:

 I dream of having a general Python parser for Org mode files, knowing
 every bit about the current syntax for Org files, surrounded by enough
 Python machinery to make it useful.

 Try PyOrgMode (https://github.com/bjonnh/PyOrgMode), it works for some
 files (but still needs corrections: it crashes with date formats, with
 bold markers, etc.).

Hi, Daniel.  As Karl points out (in a kind way), PyOrgMode is rather far
from knowing every bit about the current syntax for Org files.  My
feeling is that this effort should be restarted afresh.

 You don't need a Lisp interpreter written in Python, only Python code
 that understands org syntax without getting confused.

Well, I would prefer a Python-only solution, rather than requiring Emacs
and using it under the scene.

François

Re: [O] Parsing Org-mode in Python

Karl Voit devn...@karl-voit.at writes:

 I did not get the impression that [ply] is a parsing engine that is
 done the Python way.

PLY has pros and cons.  SPARK[1] always attracted me as being more
elegant.  While it accepts a wider set of grammars than PLY, SPARK can
become quite slow on grammars which are less natural (admittedly a
very fuzzy, subjective term).  For simpler grammars, recursive descent
does the job at good enough speed, and often, grammars can be rearranged
a bit so the lexer could cleverly help the parser.  Of course, it looks
like more work writing a recursive descent parser, yet many times in my
experience, the programmer is amply repaid with simplicity and clarity.

 You don't need a Lisp interpreter written in Python, only Python
 code that understands org syntax without getting confused.

 if you are going to use a ELISP interpreter to parse Org-mode syntax
 for Python, this should completely re-use the original Org-parser and
 nothing else.  I have no idea if this is possible or not.  If you have
 to implement a parser on your own, you probably should stick to
 Python-only.

Hey hey, it's fun! :-) You misunderstood me, but this is constructive
actually, as you raise good points.  In my dreams, a pure Python parser
parses Org mode files.  However, here and there in the parsed files, as
data, we can see bits of Emacs Lisp code, or even Calc syntax at some
places.  That Emacs Lisp code could be mere constants or identifiers,
but sometimes more complex, evalable S-expressions.

A parser is probably of limited use if it does not come with some
extra-tools covering most frequent use cases around the syntax, and I
guess that pressure will develop to have some kind of Emacs Lisp
interpreter, hardly complete, probably only mild or even ridiculous.

The interesting idea in your comments is that, *if* we had an Emacs Lisp
interpreter of serious quality, that interpreter could use the original
Org-parser and nothing else.  That would solve maintenance, as the
parser would be wholly external, to be found in Org mode distribution,
all standard.  But this avenue is quite unlikely: it looks like a major
undertaking to me, and while such a parser would be useful on small data
excerpts within an Org file, it might be inordinately slow if it had to
interpret a lot of Lisp code while deciphering big Org files.

Worse, keeping a Python parser in sync with the true Emacs Lisp parser
would require much energy, maybe only once in a while, but extended over
a long period of time.  Unless a great enthusiasm exists, distributed on
many people, such projects are always doomed to fail.  Not many people
are ready to commit themselves for life in the required maintenance.

François

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Re: [O] email - TODO items?

Brett Viren b...@bnl.gov writes:

 Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes:

 I use half a dozen email clients, including mutt, which lets me easily
 pipe a message to a script.

 The need to support multiple clients may rule out my suggestion but
 capturing a TODO or a note while visiting a GNUS message and thus
 preserving the link back to the article that spawned my task/idea is
 fantastically useful.

 In your pipe scheme maybe there is some way you can preserve this link
 back.


There were a few discussions about mutt integration with org some years
back. In particular

  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/18950

describes an implementation (or maybe two) of a mutt link type.

Searching the ML with mutt links will uncover a few more such discussions.
-- 
Nick

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance

Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com writes:

 François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca writes:

 Whenever I visit a gnus: type link from Org, it has the side effect of
 reading the article in Gnus parlance, forcing me to unread it each
 time afterwards.

 it's certainly not lost: the link continues to work, even if it points
 to a read article; and visiting the group with C-u SPACE in gnus
 also allows you to see previously read articles.

Hi, Nick.

Of course, you are fully right in that the article is still there, and
likely unexpired.  But in practice, from my viewpoint, it is not there
anymore: I do not usually enter groups by C-u SPC.  While possible, it
is unusual that I want to find and read again an article which I once
decided has been read for good.

If I search all mailgroups for a certain string, and randomly check
hits, I do not want these articles I check to later have disappeared
from sight in practice.  I was not really in the process of reading
articles, but merely checking on them.  It would not make sense that Org
removes lines that I visit after a grep, and when grepping through many
files, would they be Org, non-Org, mailboxes or articles in mailgroups,
I am in a mode where I do not expect any kind of altering behaviour.

François

Re: [O] does org-mode modify input events?

John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes:

 Hi all,

 In this post, I was looking at some ways to get right clicks to do something 
 on org-links:
 http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2013/10/21/Enabling-right-clicks-in-org-mode-links/

 I noticed some odd behavior in that the last-input-event is mouse-2
 whether I press mouse-1 or mouse-2 when clicking on a link. It is also
 interesting the event is of type mouse-2, and not down-mouse-2.

 Does anyone know if org-mode makes a mouse-1 click into a mouse-2
 event somehow? Is that happening from this line

 (org-defkey org-mouse-map [mouse-2] 'org-open-at-mouse)

 in org.el?


Check the doc strings of org-mouse-1-follows-link and
mouse-1-click-follows-link.

-- 
Nick

Re: [O] gnus: link annoyance