Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-07 Thread Grant Rettke
Yes because it would allow us to very easily switch between a stable and unstable installation using the built-in package infrastructure. On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Nikolai Weibull n...@disu.se wrote: Hi! Would it be of interest to anyone else if the bleeding edge version was available

Re: [O] Zotero csl file that uses parenthetical style for citations

2015-03-07 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Vaidheeswaran C, Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: So there is not really any such thing as an in-text CSL style. Rather, there are CSL styles that support both in-text and parenthetical citations (which is most of them, I'd guess). Your guess is just a guess.

Re: [O] Babel questions for finalising Processing support

2015-03-07 Thread Jarmo Hurri
Aaron Ecay aarone...@gmail.com writes: 3. In ob-processing.el I (require 'ob). However, to avoid a compiler warning about a free variable I still need to declare (eval-when-compile (defvar org-babel-temporary-directory)) Is this ok? This looks bogus. The defvar for

Re: [O] Zotero csl file that uses parenthetical style for citations

2015-03-07 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: I'm asking because the developers who contribute their effort to Org mode are, IMHO, extremely talented and experienced programmers. IIUC, they are also busy with other projects (some of which hopefully make them some money!), so I

Re: [O] Zotero csl file that uses parenthetical style for citations

2015-03-07 Thread Richard Lawrence
Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: On Friday 06 March 2015 11:51 PM, Richard Lawrence wrote: Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: I got the subject and also text wrong. (But I hope my intention was clear.) I am really looking for EXISTING

Re: [O] Babel: RESULTS for no value

2015-03-07 Thread Jarmo Hurri
Aaron Ecay aarone...@gmail.com writes: It might be a little distracting to see it there, but it shouldn’t interfere with the functionality in any way (for example, it should be invisible on export). It the line’s presence causing any problems for your code? It is a nuisance. To summarize,

Re: [O] Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys?

2015-03-07 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
On Saturday 07 March 2015 10:39 PM, Richard Lawrence wrote: So what if Zotero sometimes produces keys like this? So what if a LaTeX document will compile with such keys? Is it your position that that means Org keys must allow punctuation at the end? Yes. Nicolas is implementing the parser.

Re: [O] Zotero csl file that uses parenthetical style for citations

2015-03-07 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
I'm asking because the developers who contribute their effort to Org mode are, IMHO, extremely talented and experienced programmers. IIUC, they are also busy with other projects (some of which hopefully make them some money!), so I think it would help them if you could document the problem

Re: [O] Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys?

2015-03-07 Thread Richard Lawrence
Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: On Friday 06 March 2015 11:39 PM, Richard Lawrence wrote: Hi Vaidheeswaran, Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: The following combination works when passed through the LaTeX/PDF exporter. It doesn't work

Re: [O] Zotero csl file that uses parenthetical style for citations

2015-03-07 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
On Saturday 07 March 2015 10:18 PM, Richard Lawrence wrote: (b) producing a csl-based tool that ORG CAN INTERFACE WITH that produces in-text AND parenthetical styles. Actually, I am working on exactly that. I will post here when I've got something to share. That will be a big first

[O] Citeproc-java: Batch processing of citations

2015-03-07 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
Michel I am investigating the possibility of using citeproc-java within Emacs/Org-mode[1]. citeproc-java is easy to use and is quite promising. Will you be open to making some enhancements that would enable BATCH processing of citations.

Re: [O] Zotero csl file that uses parenthetical style for citations

2015-03-07 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Vaidheeswaran C, Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: On Friday 06 March 2015 07:27 PM, Rasmus wrote: My interpretation of the text is if you want 'A (Y)' I will type '(Y)' but you will have to type 'A' — manually(!). The details like these are important from

Re: [O] Bug: org-habit treats all repeat tasks as .+ type [7.9.3f (release_7.9.3f-17-g7524ef @ /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/org/)]

2015-03-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Leo He leodream2...@gmail.com writes: Thanks for your help, Nicolas and kungdash. I've tried both 8.2.10 (installing via elpa) and the git repository (8.3-beta and master branches), but still the same. I misunderstood the initial problem. This should be fixed in master. Thank you. * TODO

Re: [O] Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys?

2015-03-07 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha all, Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: If key-ending punctuation turns out to be common, I would revise this opinion, but at the moment I don't see the need. I am not imagining things. I am pointing out how existing tools behave. Am I right that key-ending

Re: [O] Sorting CLOCK entries

2015-03-07 Thread Christoph LANGE
Chaitanya Krishna Ande on 2015-02-27 16:40: I was wondering if there is a way to sort clock entries like in the clock entries below. AFAIK org-mode doesn't have any dedicated support for this, … The table is sorted in reverse chronological order except for the last two. I was wondering if

[O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-07 Thread Nikolai Weibull
Hi! Would it be of interest to anyone else if the bleeding edge version was available via elpa?

Re: [O] [ANN] org-dp-wrap-in-block

2015-03-07 Thread Xebar Saram
Ok so spend all morning picking up some elisp and i made some progress :) i can bind a key to auto warp a line. though i had to add a delete command since it always added 2 empty spaces after the wrap for some reason., it now looks like this (since its my first ever elisp code its probably very

Re: [O] Babel: RESULTS for no value

2015-03-07 Thread Aaron Ecay
Hi Jarmo, The results line is needed to store the hash value when the :cache header arg is set. (See (info (org) cache)) It might be a little distracting to see it there, but it shouldn’t interfere with the functionality in any way (for example, it should be invisible on export). It the line’s

Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-07 Thread Nikolai Weibull
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Xavier Maillard xav...@maillard.im wrote: Nikolai Weibull n...@disu.se writes: Would it be of interest to anyone else if the bleeding edge version was available via elpa? Isn't it already available via M-x package interface ? No, only the version based on

Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-07 Thread Xavier Maillard
Hi, Nikolai Weibull n...@disu.se writes: Would it be of interest to anyone else if the bleeding edge version was available via elpa? Isn't it already available via M-x package interface ? I'd rather use git (I really do not like the package stuff). Regards -- Xavier.

Re: [O] Babel questions for finalising Processing support

2015-03-07 Thread Aaron Ecay
Hi Jarmo, It’s good to hear of your progress! 2015ko martxoak 6an, Jarmo Hurri-ek idatzi zuen: Greetings. My implementation of Processing support in Babel is proceeding really well! I have now both external viewing of sketches and export to html (sketches drawn by browser) working.

Re: [O] Bug: org-preview-latex-fragment fails to render in remote files (TRAMP) [8.2.10 (release_8.2.10 @ /usr/local/Cellar/emacs/24.4/share/emacs/24.4/lisp/org/)]

2015-03-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: But I guess we could generate the picture locally? Or at least allow for it. Done in 9e3c3ec0b357c97a488da1223f96785ec7edfc37. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou

[O] Custom agenda shows all TODO

2015-03-07 Thread Ken Mankoff
Has something in the Agenda changed recently? I'm using Org from git and since upgrading my refresh Agenda behaves differently. I've searched the mailing list but found no mention of this. I know there were some 8.2 to 8.3 changes. Is this one of them? I have this in my custom agenda:

Re: [O] [ox-ascii, bug?] aligning text withing footnotes

2015-03-07 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: Hello, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: When writing plain text I might write something like: See foo[fn:1] [fn:1] http://orgmode.org/\\ http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ This is exported as: See foo[1] Footnotes ─ [1]

Re: [O] Zotero csl file that uses parenthetical style for citations

2015-03-07 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Vaidheeswaran C, (Bringing the conversation back on list.) Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: Richard understood the point I was making. When you have time, compare how you responded with how he responded. You can learn a thing or two from Richard. I've

Re: [O] Bug: `org-edit-special` doesn't respect dedicated windows

2015-03-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Alexis flexibe...@gmail.com writes: Thanks for bringing my attention to this variable! However, setting it to 'current-window seems to have no effect; rather than the Org buffer being replaced by an Emacs Lisp buffer, either a new window is created for the latter, or an existing

[O] Bug: org-clock-sum filter infinite loop [8.2.10 (8.2.10-34-gc41bbc-elpa @ /home/me/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150223/)]

2015-03-07 Thread Stephen
I want to sum clock times for items which are in state TODO in the agenda. Using org-clocksum-curret-item as a template: (defun org-clock-sum-current-item (optional tstart) Return time, clocked on current item in total. (save-excursion (save-restriction

Re: [O] org-agenda-insert-diary-make-new-entry adds entry as first child?

2015-03-07 Thread Nikolai Weibull
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Nikolai Weibull n...@disu.se writes: Here’s a suggested solution. We keep track of whether the parent entry already has any children, then we call org-insert-heading with two universal arguments to add an entry at the end of the

Re: [O] [RFC] [PATCH] Changes to Tag groups - allow nesting and regexps

2015-03-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Gustav Wikström gustav.e...@gmail.com writes: I've fixed the issues raised (IMO), and new patches are attached. I've added a patch for documentation also. Thank you. I'd say it's an unnecessary limitation if group tags have to be exclusive on a headline. The more general case should be

Re: [O] Custom agenda shows all TODO

2015-03-07 Thread Ken Mankoff
On 2015-03-07 at 06:13, Ken Mankoff mank...@gmail.com wrote: Has something in the Agenda changed recently? I'm using Org from git and since upgrading my refresh Agenda behaves differently. I've searched the mailing list but found no mention of this. I know there were some 8.2 to 8.3 changes.

Re: [O] Citation syntax: a revised proposal

2015-03-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes: I was thinking that this should yield a citation object with a structure like: ('citation ... :common-prefix pre :common-suffix post :references ((:prefix pre1 :key k1 :suffix post1 ...)

Re: [O] Bug: message after org-clock-in [8.2.10 (8.2.10-34-gc41bbc-elpa @ /home/torys/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150223/)]

2015-03-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, torys.ander...@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) writes: After I use `org-clock-in` (using a C-u modifier and keyed globally), I receive a message like the following: Entry repeats: DEADLINE: 2015-03-04 Wed 14:00 +1w This message does not correspond to either the task I clocked out

Re: [O] Bug: message after org-clock-in [8.2.10 (8.2.10-34-gc41bbc-elpa @ /home/torys/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150223/)]

2015-03-07 Thread Tory S. Anderson
I'd love to. Unfortunately, search engines were unable to give me decisive answer on what an ECM is. Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: Hello, torys.ander...@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) writes: After I use `org-clock-in` (using a C-u modifier and keyed globally), I receive

Re: [O] Bug: message after org-clock-in [8.2.10 (8.2.10-34-gc41bbc-elpa @ /home/torys/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150223/)]

2015-03-07 Thread Tory S. Anderson
Alright; because of the need for a fully loaded agenda (which probably needs to include periodic appointments), I've been unable to duplicate this from `emacs -Q`. However, I can toggle it's happening in my working setup. With a functional agenda including periodic files, with `(setq

Re: [O] Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys?

2015-03-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: Am I right that key-ending punctuation is a potential problem for the shorthand part of the syntax and not for the full [cite: ...] syntax? Exactly. If key-ending punctuation is required, we might have to drop shortcuts (i.e. [@key] and @key). At

Re: [O] Custom agenda shows all TODO

2015-03-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Ken Mankoff mank...@gmail.com writes: I've traced this issues (bug?) to a change between ba544e4 and d92ef95. I'm not sure what change, but the issue is in the agenda, and the diff for org-agenda.el is: @@ -4789,7 +4789,7 @@ for a keyword. A numeric prefix directly selects the

Re: [O] [ox-ascii, bug?] aligning text withing footnotes

2015-03-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: No. In a normal paragraph when I do para1\\ para2 The whitespace indentation is respected. All I'm saying that when I do something equivalent in a footnote the amount of characters removed from the first list (typically 3: fn:) should also be removed

Re: [O] [RFC] Table's documentation -- a non patch proposal

2015-03-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
ML abonneme...@thierry-pelle.eu writes: finally I will give a first version not as a patch (my ideas implies some changes in section numbering and I fear to break something as a non-texi user). Thanks. Some comments follow. *First:*reorganization of Tables part 3. Tables 3.1 Tables

Re: [O] Bug: message after org-clock-in [8.2.10 (8.2.10-34-gc41bbc-elpa @ /home/torys/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150223/)]

2015-03-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
torys.ander...@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) writes: I'd love to. Unfortunately, search engines were unable to give me decisive answer on what an ECM is. It's a recipe involving as little steps as possible to reproduce the problem. See also http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#ecm Regards,

Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-07 Thread T.F. Torrey
Nikolai Weibull n...@disu.se writes: Would it be of interest to anyone else if the bleeding edge version was available via elpa? I would also very much appreciate it. Terry -- T.F. Torrey

Re: [O] Babel: RESULTS for no value

2015-03-07 Thread Charles C. Berry
On Sat, 7 Mar 2015, Jarmo Hurri wrote: Aaron Ecay aarone...@gmail.com writes: It might be a little distracting to see it there, but it shouldn’t interfere with the functionality in any way (for example, it should be invisible on export). It the line’s presence causing any problems for your

Re: [O] Bug: message after org-clock-in [8.2.10 (8.2.10-34-gc41bbc-elpa @ /home/torys/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150223/)]

2015-03-07 Thread Brett Viren
torys.ander...@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) writes: I'd love to. Unfortunately, search engines were unable to give me decisive answer on what an ECM is. Heh. I guessed what it meant, but not what it stood for, and found: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html Some users call this an

Re: [O] Bug: `org-edit-special` doesn't respect dedicated windows

2015-03-07 Thread Alexis
On 2015-03-08T07:34:36+1100, Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr said: NG Alexis flexibe...@gmail.com writes: Thanks for bringing my attention to this variable! However, setting it to 'current-window seems to have no effect; rather than the Org buffer being replaced by an Emacs Lisp

Re: [O] Zotero csl file that uses parenthetical style for citations

2015-03-07 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
On Sunday 08 March 2015 09:29 AM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: Is your doubt about his eventual success founded in a general skepticism about predicting the future (certainly warranted), or in some particular knowledge about the difficulty of the task? I have no such doubt or skepticism. If the

Re: [O] Bleeding edge in elpa

2015-03-07 Thread Xavier Maillard
Nikolai Weibull n...@disu.se writes: On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Xavier Maillard xav...@maillard.im wrote: Nikolai Weibull n...@disu.se writes: Would it be of interest to anyone else if the bleeding edge version was available via elpa? Isn't it already available via M-x package

Re: [O] Zotero csl file that uses parenthetical style for citations

2015-03-07 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: On Sunday 08 March 2015 03:01 AM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: Aloha Vaidheeswaran C, (Bringing the conversation back on list.) Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: Richard understood the point I was making. When

Re: [O] Bug: org-habit treats all repeat tasks as .+ type [7.9.3f (release_7.9.3f-17-g7524ef @ /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/org/)]

2015-03-07 Thread Leo He
Thank you, Nicolas. I checked out the latest commits on master. It works. On the other hand, I am writing a shell script to move each entry's PROPERTIES drawer to its beginning. Though I think elisp can handle this more easily, I am not familiar with it (still learning :-) ). I wonder if there is

Re: [O] Sorting CLOCK entries

2015-03-07 Thread Xavier Maillard
Christoph LANGE math.semantic@gmail.com writes: CLOCK: [2014-10-10 Fri 17:52]--[2014-10-10 Fri 18:55] = 1:03 CLOCK: [2014-09-10 Wed 14:29]--[2014-09-10 Wed 16:29] = 2:00 CLOCK: [2014-11-12 Wed 08:34]--[2014-11-12 Wed 08:52] = 0:18 CLOCK: [2014-11-04 Tue 12:58]--[2014-11-04 Tue 13:28]

[O] Multicite syntax

2015-03-07 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
Note that, as a consequence, the new object is incompatible with the previous one, since every citation is a multi-cite citation. See commit message for details. Just a quick feedback. (:parenthetical nil :begin 807 :post-blank 0 :end 843 :references ((:key wilde :prefix

Re: [O] [ox-ascii, bug?] aligning text withing footnotes

2015-03-07 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: No. In a normal paragraph when I do para1\\ para2 The whitespace indentation is respected. All I'm saying that when I do something equivalent in a footnote the amount of characters removed from the first

Re: [O] How to obtain the list of files included in HTML export?

2015-03-07 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-02-13, at 00:48, John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: In https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/ox-archive.el you can see how I have done something like this for emailing and creating zip files. It might give you some hints that help your case. Thanks a lot! (And sorry

[O] Beamer Hello World Help Request

2015-03-07 Thread Matthew Gidden
Hi folks, I've been trying to follow the getting started tutorials http://orgmode.org/worg/exporters/beamer/tutorial.html for making beamer presentations and have hit a snag. Following the tutorial, I have a minimum example of a pres.org file and the resulting pres.tex file as a gist

Re: [O] Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys?

2015-03-07 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: I'm asking because I haven't fully grasped uses for the shorthand. What is the use case? More readable, I guess. I agree. In time, org-reftex would insert @key if no notes are requested at the time of insertion. —Rasmus -- Dung makes an

Re: [O] Zotero csl file that uses parenthetical style for citations

2015-03-07 Thread Vaidheeswaran C
On Sunday 08 March 2015 03:01 AM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: Aloha Vaidheeswaran C, (Bringing the conversation back on list.) Vaidheeswaran C vaidheeswaran.chinnar...@gmail.com writes: Richard understood the point I was making. When you have time, compare how you responded with how he

Re: [O] Citation syntax: Underscore MUST(?) be allowed in cite keys?

2015-03-07 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: I'm asking because I haven't fully grasped uses for the shorthand. What is the use case? More readable, I guess. I agree. In time, org-reftex would insert @key if no notes are requested at the time of