Re: [Orgmode] Integration of Org mode and Gnus
Georg C. F. Greve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Moving email is trivial -- you just need to call gnus-summary-move-article to move things to the place you want to archive them. But that function does not return the URL of the moved article (as one might hope). I think there is another solution: 1. Make C-c l (org-store-link) store message-id so that org-insert-link will insert something like: [[gnus:nnml:mail.compas#[EMAIL PROTECTED]][Message description] intead of the current format: [[gnus:nnml:mail.compas#2306][Message description]] 2. If `gnus-registry.el' is in use, rely on it to double-check in which group the message is. If it's not in use, rely on the link infos. It's straightforward to get the group from a message-id with gnus-registry.el: (cddr (assoc message-id gnus-registry-alist)) Then with the group and the message-id you'll find the email. I don't go further because this method relies on org-store-link being aware of message-id, but that should not be hard to turn this on, maybe as an option. Anyway, i think gnus-registry comes in handy here. Cheers, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode and Gnus
Georg C. F. Greve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Georg, Moving email is trivial -- you just need to call gnus-summary-move-article to move things to the place you want to archive them. But that function does not return the URL of the moved article (as one might hope). Would that help? This could be implemented very easy. As far as I can see nothing depends on the current return value of `gnus-summary-move-article'. Bye, Tassilo -- A morning without coffee is like something without something else. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode and Gnus
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:20:06 +0200 Tassilo Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to move things to the place you want to archive them. But that function does not return the URL of the moved article (as one might hope). th Would that help? Yes, I think so. Although I think the function supports moving several marked articles, so the return value should technically be a list. But otherwise yes: This would help me solve my immediate problem. :) th This could be implemented very easy. If you could do that and submit it back to Gnus, that would be great. Regards, Georg -- Georg C. F. Greve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Foundation Europe (http://fsfeurope.org) Join the Fellowship and protect your freedom! (http://www.fsfe.org) What everyone should know about DRM (http://DRM.info) pgpLVXo0vGjh2.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Integration of Org mode and Gnus
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:04:52 +0200 Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: b I think there is another solution: b 1. Make C-c l (org-store-link) store message-id so that b org-insert-link will insert something like: b [[gnus:nnml:mail.compas#[EMAIL PROTECTED]][Message b description] b intead of the current format: b [[gnus:nnml:mail.compas#2306][Message description]] Yes, this would also solve the problem. I guess that this will also require an update of the follow link function in Org? If I try to add a link with message ID such as the one above by hand, I cannot follow it (it seems to try to interpret the message ID as article number in the group). Since I know which group I am asking to move things to, being able to link to the message ID directly would definitely solve the problem, and maybe even more elegantly, as it should be robust against resorting the mail group. Regards, Georg -- Georg C. F. Greve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Foundation Europe (http://fsfeurope.org) Join the Fellowship and protect your freedom! (http://www.fsfe.org) What everyone should know about DRM (http://DRM.info) pgpdlEI39NcYA.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Integration of Org mode and Gnus
Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, i think gnus-registry comes in handy here. It looks like that may indeed be the way forward, if it will let you follow a link by message-id rather than group. I'm not clear on the specifics of how you'd set it up, though. -- +---+ | Jason F. McBrayer[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | If someone conquers a thousand times a thousand others in | | battle, and someone else conquers himself, the latter one | | is the greatest of all conquerors. --- The Dhammapada| ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode and Gnus
Georg C. F. Greve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Georg, th Would that help? Yes, I think so. Although I think the function supports moving several marked articles, so the return value should technically be a list. As far as I can see it can only move several articles to exactly one group. th This could be implemented very easy. If you could do that and submit it back to Gnus, that would be great. I just found out that this is not needed. You can use the `gnus-summary-article-move-hook'. Each function of that hook will be run with the arguments - action: move/copy/respool/crosspost - Some data vector, dunno its use... - original group - destination group - select method So you could write a delegate function that first add-hooks a function that sets a custom variable to the destination group. Then it calls `gnus-summary-move-article'. When that returns you can create the org-link and remove the function from the hook again. Bye, Tassilo -- No person, no idea, and no religion deserves to be illegal to insult, not even the Church of Emacs. (Richard M. Stallman) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Integration of Org mode and Gnus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason F. McBrayer) writes: Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, i think gnus-registry comes in handy here. It looks like that may indeed be the way forward, if it will let you follow a link by message-id rather than group. I'm not clear on the specifics of how you'd set it up, though. Not fully tested yet, but this patch is a first attempt to implement this. It uses message-id instead of message number to store Gnus links. If gnus-registry is on, it fetches location of the article depending on gnus-registry-alist. It's compatible with old Gnus links. The problem is gnus-registry-alist can be huge, and access to article might be somewhat slow. --- org.el.orig 2007-07-13 15:10:47.0 +0200 +++ org.el 2007-07-18 13:48:38.0 +0200 @@ -10509,7 +10509,7 @@ (format http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=%s; (org-fixup-message-id-for-http message-id (setq link (org-make-link gnus: group -# (number-to-string article)) +# (org-remove-angle-brackets message-id)) ((eq major-mode 'w3-mode) (setq cpltxt (url-view-url t) @@ -11444,8 +11444,14 @@ (funcall (cdr (assq 'gnus org-link-frame-setup))) (if gnus-other-frame-object (select-frame gnus-other-frame-object)) (cond ((and group article) + (if (string-match @ article) + (when (boundp 'gnus-registry-alist) + (gnus-registry-initialize) + (setq group (caddr (assoc (concat article ) + gnus-registry-alist + (setq article (string-to-number article))) (gnus-group-read-group 1 nil group) - (gnus-summary-goto-article (string-to-number article) nil t)) + (gnus-summary-goto-article article nil t)) (group (gnus-group-jump-to-group group (defun org-follow-vm-link (optional folder article readonly) Let me know if this is convenient. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode and Gnus
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:55:30 +0200 Tassilo Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I think the function supports moving several marked articles, so the return value should technically be a list. th As far as I can see it can only move several articles to exactly th one group. Yes, exactly. If you could do that and submit it back to Gnus, that would be great. th I just found out that this is not needed. You can use the th `gnus-summary-article-move-hook'. Each function of that hook will th be run with the arguments th - action: move/copy/respool/crosspost th - Some data vector, dunno its use... th - original group th - destination group th - select method th So you could write a delegate function that first add-hooks a th function that sets a custom variable to the destination group. Then th it calls `gnus-summary-move-article'. When that returns you can th create the org-link and remove the function from the hook again. I think I don't quite understand how this solves the problem. This sounds like I should set the target group dynamically in the hook when moving the article. But I can determine the group simply by calling (gnus-summary-move-article nil GROUP) So I know which group the articles end up in, but I don't know which article number they got in that group -- but that is the basic prerequisite to be able to link to them. I'm sorry to ask a question that may be stupid, but how would I get the article number(s) of the message(s) that have been moved by doing the above? Regards, Georg -- Georg C. F. Greve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Software Foundation Europe (http://fsfeurope.org) Join the Fellowship and protect your freedom! (http://www.fsfe.org) What everyone should know about DRM (http://DRM.info) pgpMkBFBuiSj5.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode and Gnus
Georg C. F. Greve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you could do that and submit it back to Gnus, that would be great. th I just found out that this is not needed. You can use the th `gnus-summary-article-move-hook'. Each function of that hook will th be run with the arguments th - action: move/copy/respool/crosspost th - Some data vector, dunno its use... th - original group th - destination group th - select method th So you could write a delegate function that first add-hooks a th function that sets a custom variable to the destination th group. Then it calls `gnus-summary-move-article'. When that th returns you can create the org-link and remove the function from th the hook again. I think I don't quite understand how this solves the problem. This sounds like I should set the target group dynamically in the hook when moving the article. But I can determine the group simply by calling (gnus-summary-move-article nil GROUP) But `gnus-summary-move-article' is the one who asks you for the group name when you do `B m' with some articles. So I know which group the articles end up in, but I don't know which article number they got in that group -- but that is the basic prerequisite to be able to link to them. Uh, yes. I think I got you wrong. I thought you only needed the group where the article was moved to. Maybe you can use that and the message-id to link to the message without requiring the registry. Have a look at Bastien's patch. I'm sorry to ask a question that may be stupid, but how would I get the article number(s) of the message(s) that have been moved by doing the above? I don't have any clue. :-) Bye, Tassilo ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Integration of Org mode and Gnus
Georg C. F. Greve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see this in *Messages*: Retrieving newsgroup: nnml:gnu.ml.emacs.orgmode... Fetching headers for nnml:gnu.ml.emacs.orgmode...done Suppressing duplicates...done Scoring...done Generating summary...done No more unread articles Couldn't fetch article [EMAIL PROTECTED] So it seems to look into the wrong group. I found out that the registry is not up-to-date until you save the ~/gnus.registry.el. Replace `gnus-registry-initialize' by `gnus-registry-save' in the patch before. It should be okay - unless there are special issues with virtual groups. Considering that gnus-registry-alist can slow down Gnus considerably and I normally don't use it, I'd ask to always ensure it does not depend on it. Please. :) I still think using gnus-registry might be a good solution, even if it requires making access to `gnus-registry-alist' more efficient. Best, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Integration of Org mode and Gnus
Georg C. F. Greve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But doesn't this require for the article to be in the registry, still? Yes it does. What happens if the article has been pushed out of the registry? If you set `gnus-registry-max-entries' to a reasonably large number (say 5000) the registry will keep track of these 5000 articles. Beyond this number I suppose it makes more sense to use the nnir.el interface. Yet another solution would be to have an Org registry. All links in an Org project would be stored in this registry (so that being on a mail, you can ask yourself Is it somewhere in one of my org file?) and moving articles in Gnus would help syncing the registry and the org file. But er.. that's more than a small patch :) Best, PS: i wrote a registry for planner, and already suggested it for org here: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/1534/match=registry -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] org-mode to LaTeX export
There have been a few discussions on a facility for org-mode to export a buffer
into LaTeX. I was wondering what is the planned scope of this work?
I would like to be able to write an article in org-mode then create a LaTeX
document
using the following transformations which should be configurable:
Headings
*
**
***
and so on should be converted to the appropriate {chapter} {section} tags
*bold* /italic/ markup should be tagged
Lists, numbered and unnumbered be converted into the appropriate LaTeX
structures.
I wrote a Perl script to do most of this work but I don't know enough Lisp to
write a similar program.
Who is doing the work on LaTeX export?
What features will you support?
How configurable will it be?
Many thanks
Charles
P.S. I am working on an update to my org-mode and GTD article.
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Re: [Orgmode] Integration of Org mode and Gnus
Hi Bastien, I'd like to accept a patch that does this and keeps the old links working. After this discussion has converged, could you send me the final patch against a 5.xx version or org-mode? Thanks a lot. - Carsten On Jul 18, 2007, at 17:39, Bastien wrote: Georg C. F. Greve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see this in *Messages*: Retrieving newsgroup: nnml:gnu.ml.emacs.orgmode... Fetching headers for nnml:gnu.ml.emacs.orgmode...done Suppressing duplicates...done Scoring...done Generating summary...done No more unread articles Couldn't fetch article [EMAIL PROTECTED] So it seems to look into the wrong group. I found out that the registry is not up-to-date until you save the ~/gnus.registry.el. Replace `gnus-registry-initialize' by `gnus-registry-save' in the patch before. It should be okay - unless there are special issues with virtual groups. Considering that gnus-registry-alist can slow down Gnus considerably and I normally don't use it, I'd ask to always ensure it does not depend on it. Please. :) I still think using gnus-registry might be a good solution, even if it requires making access to `gnus-registry-alist' more efficient. Best, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut Anton Pannekoek Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [bug] Abbreviated links export
On Jul 17, 2007, at 16:39, Bastien wrote: Hi Carsten, There's a bug with abbreviated links export (since 5.01 if i remember correctly). For example: #+LINK: org-mode-manual http://staff.science.uva.nl/~dominik/Tools/org/org.html#%s [[org-mode-manual:Dynamic-blocks][More on dynamic blocks]] will be exported as: a href=#org-mode-manual:Dynamic-blocksMore on dynamic blocks/a Currently, the key of a link abbreviation must be all letters. I am not sure how much we should widen this up. I guess I could add numbers, dashes, maybe underscore. Will do so for 5.04. - Carsten -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut Anton Pannekoek Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [c]ompute property value ?
On Jul 16, 2007, at 11:30, Bastien wrote: Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem is that the summary type is a property of the column view format, not of the property itself. Yes, i inferred that from the fact that the summary type is automatically updated when changing the property value from the column view. So it is not entirely obvious how and with what scope this command should be interpreted - even though I think we should have it. So far as C-c C-x C-c does the updating job by computing the summary, i guess we just need a function that replaces the values of the properties when they exist (in parent and children). In fact, constructing the column view *does* replace the property value where it exists. Still, an independent function, callable from hooks would be good. - Carsten -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut Anton Pannekoek Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: org-mode to LaTeX export
Charles Cave charles_cave at optusnet.com.au writes: There have been a few discussions on a facility for org-mode to export a buffer into LaTeX. I was wondering what is the planned scope of this work? Bastien has written an org-mode to latex export module which works perfectly well. I have tested it on several occasions and you can expect Bastien will release soon. Xavier ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
