Re: [Orgmode] a small remember suggestion

[Alan E. Davis]

What would happen then if one called remember from a previous remember
buffer, then saved it?

Alan Davis

An inviscid theory of flow renders the screw useless, but the need for one
non-existent. ---Lord Raleigh (John William Strutt), or
else his son, who was also a scientist.

It is undesirable to believe a proposition when
there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true.
 Bertrand Russell




On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 04:29, Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl
 wrote:
  After that,
 
  (when (plusp number)
   (message you have %s saved remember files number))
 
  Hmmm.   When should this happen?  Not after a
  successful remember process, I'd say.

 The number will usually be zero, so that is when I would do it.  Of
 course it should be combined with successfully saved to 

 I like it after rather than before saving because, in my view, we want
 to limit the amount of attention required between have an idea and
 saved the idea.

 Perhaps there are other times for it, but then would work for me.

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 Myalgic encephalomyelitis denialism is causing death (decades early;
 Jason et al. 2006) and severe suffering (worse than nearly all other
 diseases studied; e.g. Schweitzer et al. 1995) and grossly corrupting
 science.  http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/What_Is_ME_What_Is_CFS.htm

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[Orgmode] Re: Feature request (org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists)

[Baoqiu Cui]

Hi Carsten,

Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:

 Possible solutions:

 1. Allow #+begin_example and friends to be indented and remove the same
amount of whitespace from all example lines as the #+begin line has.
This is possible, but would require a lot of work in the LaTeX
 exporter.
It would also cause a lot of problems with the edit-source-code
 stuff
with C-c ', because we could then no longer use indentation
functionality while editing the examples.

 2. Adapt the LaTeX exporter to work like the HTML exporter, ignoring
indentation of tables and example.  The, introduce a special list
item like - ___ to explicitly terminate a list if this should be
 necessary.

 I welcome comments on this issue.

Thanks for looking into this problem!  Personally I would prefer option
1) if it does not require too much work.  Supporting indented tables and
#+begin_example etc. in Org-mode plain lists not only makes list
structure look cleaner, but also fits well in Org-mode's powerful
structure editing functionality (org-do-promote/demote already supports
lot of automatic indentation today, including tables and : ...
example lines.).

Option 2) is a very good compromise, because it is cheap to implement,
and, for *most* of the times, people do not need to use - ___ in their
lists.

The only problem with option 2) is that, to terminate an ordered list
that has N items, do we have to use something like (N+1). ___?  Number
N+1 here makes the list look a little bad.  Also, + ___ and * ___
may be required for list item starting with `+' or `*'.

Baoqiu



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Re: [Orgmode] Feature request (org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists)

[Samuel Wales]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 14:28, Matthew Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote:
 If I may be so bold, I'd like to request an additional setting for
 org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists. Namely, I was wondering if it
 would be possible to add an option whereby 2 empty lines would terminate
 a plain list.

I am a little confused by this thread.

Is this a request like this?

  - top
- 1
this is some stuff pasted into 1

and this is too
- 2
but this

is different


because this line does not get folded when 2 is cycled.

?

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[Orgmode] filetags and org-todo-list

[Harri Kiiskinen]

Hello!

It seems that org-use-tag-inheritance set to regexp, the use of
#+FILETAGS: and org-todo-list do not work together. It seems, that a
regexp in org-use-tag-inheritance matching a tag set in #+FILETAGS
causes this error:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)
  string-match(^ + nil)
  org-format-agenda-item( nil org_filetag (tea test))
  byte-code(Æ ÇŽÈ ˆ`ŠÉ ˆ`)Ê\n!ƒ(   Tbˆ„#ËÌ!ˆÍÎÏ\ˆ*  bˆÐ ˆÑ”bˆÒӔ!Ô 
Õ`!#Ö×ØÑ!
#$$Ù$!TÚ \Û$%Ü\fÝ\fÞß
àáâ\ˆ$Bƒ~ѕbˆ‚‚ËÌ!ˆÏ‡ [save-match-data-internal beg end 
org-agenda-todo-list-sublevels marker category match-data ((byte-code ÁÂ\‡ 
[save-match-data-internal set-match-data evaporate] 3)) beginning-of-line 
outline-next-heading 
org-agenda-check-for-timestamp-as-reason-to-ignore-todo-item org-end-of-subtree 
invisible throw :skip nil org-agenda-skip 1 org-agenda-new-marker 0 
org-get-category org-get-tags-at org-format-agenda-item  match-string 
org-get-priority org-get-todo-state org-add-props org-marker org-hd-marker 
priority org-category type todo todo-state tags txt props ee] 15)
  org-agenda-get-todos()
  org-agenda-get-day-entries(~/org_filetag.org (3 24 2009) :todo)
  byte-code(Ä!ˆÅ Æ#Ç\n\ć [file date rtn rtnall 
org-check-agenda-file org-agenda-get-day-entries :todo append] 4)
  org-todo-list(nil)
  call-interactively(org-todo-list)
  execute-extended-command(nil)
  call-interactively(execute-extended-command)

when org-use-tag-inheritance is set to regexp te
with this file:


#+STARTUP:
#+FILETAGS: tea
* TODO testing :test:
** TODO too:data:
-

When the regexp is tes, so that the FILETAG does not match,
org-todo-list produces a correct list.

(org-mode 6.24trans, updated from git 2009/03/25)

Harri

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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone ---- org-mode

[Brad Bozarth]

Couple more fixes - do a git pull in the shell script to keep my
auto-updater's repository up to date and avoid git push failure, and
avoid adding new Reqall items until they have been transcribed (at
first they show up in RSS as Reqall is typing what you said)

--- a/repo/bin/get_reqall_tasks.sh
+++ b/repo/bin/get_reqall_tasks.sh
@@ -3,8 +3,9 @@
 echo .  /tmp/crontest

 /sw/bin/wget -O /tmp/req http://www.reqall.com/user/feeds/rss/82012e8e26fae644e
-/usr/bin/awk -f ~/repo/bin/reqallxml.awk /tmp/req
 cd /Users/Brad/Dev/reqall/Brad/repo/org/
+/usr/bin/git pull
+/usr/bin/awk -f ~/repo/bin/reqallxml.awk /tmp/req
 /usr/bin/git add gtd.org
 /usr/bin/git commit -m Auto-reqall update $(date)  /dev/null
 /usr/bin/git push  /dev/null

--- a/repo/bin/reqallxml.awk
+++ b/repo/bin/reqallxml.awk
@@ -414,7 +414,11 @@ END {

    newItems = 0;
    for ( guid in guids ) {
+   where = index(blobs[guid, DESCRIPTION], is typing what you said)
+   if (where)
+   continue;
    ret = system(egrep \^ guid \ ~/repo/bin/reqalldb  /dev/null);
    if ( ret != 0 ) {



On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Brad Bozarth
prettyg...@cs.stanford.edu wrote:

 I should note that I tried to clean up the files a bit to make them more 
 readable before uploading, and I realized the clean version of 
 reqallxml.awk in the attachment has two silly bugs - /* nothing for now */ 
 ; on line 368 should be ; # nothing for now (C-style comments don't work 
 in awk). And the system call string on line 425 can't be split across lines 
 as it is (again, I was thinking in C).
 -brad

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Brad Bozarth prettyg...@cs.stanford.edu 
 wrote:

 Sure! As I said, it's a hack - it would obviously be better
 implemented with one elisp batch script or something, but I was in a
 hurry, and it's been working for me.

 Reqall is a free app kind of like Jott, if you're familiar with that.
 You can phone into it (thus this hack would work with a blackberry or
 your friend's landline or any phone, not just the iphone) or use an
 iphone or web interface to plop in todos (and various other things,
 which I don't use). It can publish your items as an RSS feed. Here's
 how voice - org-mode happens:

 I use a cron job every 10 minutes to run get_reqall_tasks.sh
 This wget's my reqall RSS feed, runs reqallxml.awk on it (updates my
 .org file), and commits and pushes the .org
 reqallxml.awk parses the reqall items and saves a flat local DB
 (currently just to check for newness of items), doing some simple
 formatting on new items and sticking them in my .org file to be
 processed later

 Pretty simple - it could be cleaner, and filenames and such are
 hardcoded, but it should be easy for anyone to fix it up or simply
 replace the filenames and formatting to their liking. It's simple ...
 but still feels like magic when I press one button on my iPhone in the
 car, and what I spoke is sitting in my gtd.org when I get to the
 office :) ... tarball of hack attached. Note that my awk is from OS X,
 should work on linux as well though (I first got it running on linux,
 but had to escape some / characters in a pattern match to get
 reqallxml.awk to work on my mac and haven't tested it again on linux).

 -brad



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Re: [Orgmode] a small remember suggestion

[Carsten Dominik]

I did look at this possibility, but then found it better to tag
the backup files with dates.

- Carsten

On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote:

Wasn't going to say anything but at risk of sticking my foot in my  
mouth:


I learned that the convention for naming backups in Emacs is they  
end in ~.  Is it possible that if this is done, Emacs will  
automatically use the mechanism that is available to keep a given  
number of old versions and a given number of new versions?  For  
example, I have this in my .emacs:


(setq kept-old-versions 2)
(setq kept-new-versions 4)
(setq delete-old-versions t)

Alan Davis

An inviscid theory of flow renders the screw useless, but the need  
for one non-existent. ---Lord Raleigh (John  
William Strutt), or else his son, who was also a scientist.


It is undesirable to believe a proposition when
there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true.
 Bertrand Russell




On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl 
 wrote:


On Mar 24, 2009, at 4:29 AM, Samuel Wales wrote:

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 08:16, Carsten Dominik  
domi...@science.uva.nl wrote:

I have now added a variable `org-remember-backup-directory'.
Set this to a directory, and every remember buffer
you create will end up in a separate file, with date
and time in the file name, so that you can always recover.

That is perfect.  Thank you.

Note that, if you use remember frequently, you will create
a lot of these files.  So maybe we need to think of an expiry
mechanism?  Like, remove any files older than a few days?

As one possibility, how about removing the file once the contents are
successfully moved to their target locations?

Of course!  I will do that.



After that,

(when (plusp number)
 (message you have %s saved remember files number))

Hmmm.   When should this happen?  Not after a
successful remember process, I'd say.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] a small remember suggestion

[Carsten Dominik]

On Mar 25, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Alan E. Davis wrote:

What would happen then if one called remember from a previous  
remember buffer, then saved it?


I believe this will create a new backup.

- Carsten



Alan Davis

An inviscid theory of flow renders the screw useless, but the need  
for one non-existent. ---Lord Raleigh (John  
William Strutt), or else his son, who was also a scientist.


It is undesirable to believe a proposition when
there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true.
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On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com  
wrote:
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 04:29, Carsten Dominik  
domi...@science.uva.nl wrote:

 After that,

 (when (plusp number)
  (message you have %s saved remember files number))

 Hmmm.   When should this happen?  Not after a
 successful remember process, I'd say.

The number will usually be zero, so that is when I would do it.  Of
course it should be combined with successfully saved to 

I like it after rather than before saving because, in my view, we want
to limit the amount of attention required between have an idea and
saved the idea.

Perhaps there are other times for it, but then would work for me.

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Jason et al. 2006) and severe suffering (worse than nearly all other
diseases studied; e.g. Schweitzer et al. 1995) and grossly corrupting
science.  http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/What_Is_ME_What_Is_CFS.htm

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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone ---- org-mode

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Brad,

thanks for your nice words!  Sounds fascinating what you did back then
with graphics.

About the movies of grain collisions, yes, these are quite dated by
now, but they are also 10 years old, made at a time where  had little
understanding of these things, and where I wrote a Perl program to
to glue text into movie frames :-)

We have some newer ones here:

http://staff.science.uva.nl/~dpaszun/movies.html


That reminds me:  My webpage is crap, and I need to redo it in Org :-)

- Carsten

On Mar 24, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Brad Bozarth wrote:


Hi Carsten,

I'm glad I could help in a very small way - I really appreciate the
years you've put into this. I watched GregKH's, Linus's and your
Google tech talks the other day, and enjoyed yours the most. I know
I'll love the flexibility of org-mode over time, but it's great to
hear your version of the most powerful core features and the theory
behind them. And yes, I think the RSS -- org-mode idea has some good
possibilities, and reqall happens to be a convenient phone -- RSS
tool.

I think we have some similar genes - I ended up a software engineer
after a childhood love of all things astronomical (and love of
adrenaline, my dream was to be an astronaut), and was fascinated by
the self-organization of Saturn's rings - I always wanted to code a
simulation of such for fun, but never quite got to it. I made a pretty
neat 3D space particle sandbox in my Stanford graphics class, where
you could fly around and place directional points of gravity that
would attract all the floating particles on one side of the plane
perpendicular to your angle of view when you placed the point. Place
two facing different directions, and you could get beautiful, organic
looking streams of particles flowing in a ring (well, I thought they
were beautiful). Place three, and you could get extremely complex and
interesting cycling streams. I loved how all I had to get right were
the derivative calculations for gravity fall-off, and the simple
flying control and open-gl graphics, and something artistic emerged.
I've always loved the idea of complex order arising from simple
foundations...

Anyway, sorry to ramble, but I went down memory lane when I looked up
your website and watched the mpeg movies of grain collisions. In the
age of Pixar, I don't know that many people would agree, but I found
them fascinating :)

Thanks again for your generous sharing!
-brad

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:32 AM, Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl 
 wrote:

Hi Brad,

I am really happy that you showed us how to do this.  Like you,
when I work I am at my computer, so I don't need a fully mobile
side of Org.  But a capture path.  Using RSS like you demonstrate
means that we can use any kind of service that pushes to an RSS
feed - even if ReQall goes away at some point, there will be others.

This, for me, really was the missing piece.  It no longer is missing.

Thanks!

- Carsten

On Mar 22, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Brad Bozarth wrote:


Hi! I'm new to org-mode, but knew I had to use it when I combined a
desire to try GTD with my ctrl-s view of the world.

I'm ok with processing tethered to a computer, but wanted an easy  
way
to capture on the move, without adding anything to my pocket. A  
couple

days of hacking later (with some real *hacks*, but they work), and
I've got something I really like.

I can now, using either the iphone keyboard or my voice, quickly
capture something, and know that it will shortly be sitting as a  
TODO

under iPhone inbox in my gtd.org file that is git synchronized
between all my computers. I put it together with a cron'd shell
script, two awk scripts, and the free Reqall iPhone app. Could be
done more elegantly, but then I wouldn't be Getting (other) Things
Done :). I can share the hacks if anyone is interested.

-brad


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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone ---- org-mode

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Brad,

I hope you don't mind, but I find this *so extremely useful* that
I made a pure Emacs lisp version of this which is now in the git repo
under the name org-feed.el.  It is not made for fancy automatic
updating with cron jobs and git etc, but it makes for a stand-alone
alternative that will be easy to configure and has no dependencies
on external code.

For example, to get a reQall feed into file ~/org/feeds.org under  
heading

ReQall Entries, you would do this.

(setq org-feed-alist
   '((ReQall http://www.reqall.com/user/feeds/rss/a1b2...;
  ~/org/feeds.org ReQall Entries)))

I do hope that this will not stop python hackers from exploring
this further, because I thought that the python solution was really
good and innovative, and it shows what can be done with modules like
the ones Charles has put out.

- Carsten


On Mar 22, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Brad Bozarth wrote:


Hi! I'm new to org-mode, but knew I had to use it when I combined a
desire to try GTD with my ctrl-s view of the world.

I'm ok with processing tethered to a computer, but wanted an easy way
to capture on the move, without adding anything to my pocket. A couple
days of hacking later (with some real *hacks*, but they work), and
I've got something I really like.

I can now, using either the iphone keyboard or my voice, quickly
capture something, and know that it will shortly be sitting as a TODO
under iPhone inbox in my gtd.org file that is git synchronized
between all my computers. I put it together with a cron'd shell
script, two awk scripts, and the free Reqall iPhone app. Could be
done more elegantly, but then I wouldn't be Getting (other) Things
Done :). I can share the hacks if anyone is interested.

-brad


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Re: [Orgmode] list of todo entries without tags

[Carsten Dominik]

On Mar 24, 2009, at 9:53 PM, John Rakestraw wrote:


On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:38:52 +0100
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:


And what do you get for
coming up with it in the first place ?-)


I'll accept gifts :-)


I'm not a coder, but it seems to me that if the person who solves the
puzzle gets a free download, then the person who came up with the
puzzle should get to provide a free upload. How would that be?


This sounds really exciting! ;-)

- Carsten



;-)

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Re: [Orgmode] generating titles in remember templates from w3 buffers [was:Re: feature request]

[Carsten Dominik]

On Mar 24, 2009, at 9:03 PM, Robert D. Crawford wrote:


As I mentioned below, using the annotation expansion in the template
does not work when using w3.  I did see the error in my template and
have fixed it (unnecessary brackets).  I am wondering if there is some
other way to get the title or if it can be added as a feature.



Hi Robert,

Unfortunately I do not know about a variable that does hold the
title of a page in w3.  In w3m there is w3m-current-title.
In w3, all I was able to find is the URL via

(org-view-url t)

If anyone knows the magic incantation to extract the page
title in a w3 buffer, I'd be happy to make it the default
for the link description.

- Carsten



I've changed the post below to reflect the change in my template and
what it returns.

Thanks in advance for any help,
rdc

Robert D. Crawford rd...@comcast.net writes:


Matthew Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes:

I've been trying to make an org-remember template that will grab  
the
title of the webpage I want to create a link to.  This seems to  
not be

possible, although I could very well be wrong.  I was curious as to
whether a new keyword could be created for w3 and w3m links.   
Seems that

:title would be very useful.


When I use w3m, the annotation substitution (%a) in the remember
template does the trick. It grabs the url and title of the current  
page

(using org-store-link).


Thanks.  This does work for w3m but using w3 it returns this:


* [[http:// 
www.gnu.org]]  :gnu:



from this template:


'((?b * %a %^g %! ~/bookmarks.org bottom)

Later today, if I get the chance, I'll explore the solution  
proposed by

Sebastian Rose.


As stated in a previous mail, Sebastian's solution works for browsers
outside of emacs.

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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone ---- org-mode

[Brad Bozarth]

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl wrote:
 Hi Brad,

 I hope you don't mind, but I find this *so extremely useful* that
 I made a pure Emacs lisp version of this which is now in the git repo
 under the name org-feed.el.  It is not made for fancy automatic
 updating with cron jobs and git etc, but it makes for a stand-alone
 alternative that will be easy to configure and has no dependencies
 on external code.

I don't mind at all! I'm very glad you find it useful, and I will
adopt yours soon - it will be much less fragile.  I knew it would be
better implemented natively in elisp, but I haven't coded in lisp in
10 years :)

-brad


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[Orgmode] local TAGS and org-tags-view (or org-sparse-tree)

[Dieter Faulbaum]

I use org-mode version 6.21b (from emacs.orebokech.com).

I have some org files with local TAGS set in this form:

#+TAGS: mail(m) math management monitor

This work fine for org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c. But if I use org-tags-view, these
local TAGS will not be shown for the possible match completions (pressing
TAB). 
I don't understand this behaviour; do I something wrong?

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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone ---- org-mode

[Brad Bozarth]

A quick question - if I use a non-nil org-feed-assume-stable, will
that handle updating a changed reqall entry? This would be both for
the case of the entries initially saying Reqall is typing what you
said before they are transcribed, and for the case of editing an
existing entry on the iPhone or web interface.
-brad

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl wrote:
 Hi Brad,

 I hope you don't mind, but I find this *so extremely useful* that
 I made a pure Emacs lisp version of this which is now in the git repo
 under the name org-feed.el.  It is not made for fancy automatic
 updating with cron jobs and git etc, but it makes for a stand-alone
 alternative that will be easy to configure and has no dependencies
 on external code.

 For example, to get a reQall feed into file ~/org/feeds.org under heading
 ReQall Entries, you would do this.

 (setq org-feed-alist
   '((ReQall http://www.reqall.com/user/feeds/rss/a1b2...;
      ~/org/feeds.org ReQall Entries)))

 I do hope that this will not stop python hackers from exploring
 this further, because I thought that the python solution was really
 good and innovative, and it shows what can be done with modules like
 the ones Charles has put out.

 - Carsten


 On Mar 22, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Brad Bozarth wrote:

 Hi! I'm new to org-mode, but knew I had to use it when I combined a
 desire to try GTD with my ctrl-s view of the world.

 I'm ok with processing tethered to a computer, but wanted an easy way
 to capture on the move, without adding anything to my pocket. A couple
 days of hacking later (with some real *hacks*, but they work), and
 I've got something I really like.

 I can now, using either the iphone keyboard or my voice, quickly
 capture something, and know that it will shortly be sitting as a TODO
 under iPhone inbox in my gtd.org file that is git synchronized
 between all my computers. I put it together with a cron'd shell
 script, two awk scripts, and the free Reqall iPhone app. Could be
 done more elegantly, but then I wouldn't be Getting (other) Things
 Done :). I can share the hacks if anyone is interested.

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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone ---- org-mode

[Carsten Dominik]

On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Brad Bozarth wrote:


A quick question - if I use a non-nil org-feed-assume-stable, will
that handle updating a changed reqall entry? This would be both for
the case of the entries initially saying Reqall is typing what you
said before they are transcribed, and for the case of editing an
existing entry on the iPhone or web interface.


No, things like this is handled yet.

- Carsten


-brad

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl 
 wrote:

Hi Brad,

I hope you don't mind, but I find this *so extremely useful* that
I made a pure Emacs lisp version of this which is now in the git repo
under the name org-feed.el.  It is not made for fancy automatic
updating with cron jobs and git etc, but it makes for a stand-alone
alternative that will be easy to configure and has no dependencies
on external code.

For example, to get a reQall feed into file ~/org/feeds.org under  
heading

ReQall Entries, you would do this.

(setq org-feed-alist
  '((ReQall http://www.reqall.com/user/feeds/rss/a1b2...;
 ~/org/feeds.org ReQall Entries)))

I do hope that this will not stop python hackers from exploring
this further, because I thought that the python solution was really
good and innovative, and it shows what can be done with modules like
the ones Charles has put out.

- Carsten


On Mar 22, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Brad Bozarth wrote:


Hi! I'm new to org-mode, but knew I had to use it when I combined a
desire to try GTD with my ctrl-s view of the world.

I'm ok with processing tethered to a computer, but wanted an easy  
way
to capture on the move, without adding anything to my pocket. A  
couple

days of hacking later (with some real *hacks*, but they work), and
I've got something I really like.

I can now, using either the iphone keyboard or my voice, quickly
capture something, and know that it will shortly be sitting as a  
TODO

under iPhone inbox in my gtd.org file that is git synchronized
between all my computers. I put it together with a cron'd shell
script, two awk scripts, and the free Reqall iPhone app. Could be
done more elegantly, but then I wouldn't be Getting (other) Things
Done :). I can share the hacks if anyone is interested.

-brad


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[Orgmode] bug in simple dependencies handling (?)

[Daniel Hochheimer]

Hello,

first of all, please excuse my poorly english.

It seems there is a bug in the handling of simple dependencies.
I think an example tree is the best solution, to show you the bug:

* Projects
#+CATEGORY: Projects
*** TODO foo bar project
   :PROPERTIES:
   :ORDERED:  t
   :END:
* TODO foo subproject:FooSubproject:
*** TODO Task 1
* TODO bar subproject:BarSubproject:
*** TODO Task 1

This is in my .emacs file:
(setq org-enforce-todo-dependencies t)
(setq org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks 'invisible)
(setq org-odd-levels-only t)

the expected global todo agenda view imho is:

Projects:Task 1   :FooSubproject:

but actual it is unfortunately:

Projects:Task 1   :FooSubproject:
Projects:Task 1   :BarSubproject:


Imho Task 1 from bar subproject should not be visible,
because bar subproject  is blocked because of the
ORDERED property (therefore it's childs should be blocked, too)


Is it easy / possible to fix this bug? My whole GTD system is
heavily based on such project / subproject-Constructs. But with
this bug my global todo agenda view is unfortunately polluted
a little bit with tasks from projects that shouldn't be active.

Best regards,
Daniel

PS: many thanks to the developer of this great emacs mode, I really
enjoy org-mode. I started using emacs only because of the great
abilities of org-mode.


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Re: [Orgmode] Feature request [Resizeable Literal examples]

[Carsten Dominik]

Why don't you just use CSS to change the font size in pre examples?

Having different font sizes for different examples will look terrible.

- Carsten

On Mar 25, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Yury GEORGIEVSKIY wrote:


Hello,

I'm using orgmode to make user documentation.

A lot of my Literal Examples are too big to fit
on the A4 paper to print them out.

In order to fit them on the A4, I'm changing HTML font size
every time.

To be more vivid - I've attached an example to export in HTML
(example.org) and fat literal example (seq_diag.txt)
that will be resized.

First diagram will fit on A4 paper, while second one will not,
as it is too big.

I think may be it's a good idea to add the switch for changing
font size, where size can be expressed in percentage or/and
paper size.

It can look something like:
#+BEGIN_EXAMPLE -f 60%
or
#+BEGIN_EXAMPLE -f A4

Thanks in advance,
Yury
#+TITLE:   Pretty print.
#+STARTUP: hidestars
#+OPTIONS: toc:nil

* Shrinked Sequential diagram.

#+BEGIN_HTML
style type=text/css
example1 { font-size: 60%; }
/style
example1
#+END_HTML

#+BEGIN_EXAMPLE
#+INCLUDE seq_diag.txt
#+END_EXAMPLE

#+BEGIN_HTML
/example1
#+END_HTML

* Normal Sequential diagram.
#+BEGIN_EXAMPLE
#+INCLUDE seq_diag.txt
#+END_EXAMPLE
   QDP Sequence diagram.

User application| 
- RTI -|

| |
+--++-- 
++--+   +--+   +---+
|  ||   
||  |   |  |   |   |
|  BC  ||  PP   
||  FP  |   |  TB  |   |  AMT  |
|  ||   
||  |   |  |   |   |
+---+--++---+-- 
++---+--+   +---+--+   +---+---+
   |
|   |  |  |
   |
|   |  | +-+
   |send_quick_data(RS_ECHO | RS_CONF | RS_REF )  +- 
+  |  | | |
   +-|  
|  |  | | ++
   |  |  
|  |  | | ||
   |   user can check Transmit Buffer |  
|  |  | | ||
   |-+  
|  |  | | ||
   |  |  
|  |  | | |  fill in   |
   |   get_quick_data |  
|  |  | | ||
  +- 
+ 
 
| | | aquisition |
  | | |  
|  |  | | ||
  | | |  
|  |   acq_msg  | |  message   |
  | |   if (RS_ECHO |  
RS_CONF) |---+ |---+
  | | | |  
ctrl_msg |  | | |
  | | |  
+-|  | | |
  | | | |  
conf_msg |  | | |
  | | |  
|  |  | | |
  | | |  
|  |  | | |
  | |   else  
(RS_REF)  |  | | |
  | | |  
++ |  | | |
  | | | |   change  
RTI   | |  | | |
  +-+ | |   
configuration | |   fill   | | |
   |  | | 
---+ +-| | |
   |  |  
|  |  buffer  | | |
   |  POWC data is  
ready   |  | | |
   | 
 
-+ 
 | |
   | 

Re: [Orgmode] filetags and org-todo-list

[Carsten Dominik]

Yes, a bug.  Fixed, thanks.

- Carsten

On Mar 25, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Harri Kiiskinen wrote:


Hello!

It seems that org-use-tag-inheritance set to regexp, the use of
#+FILETAGS: and org-todo-list do not work together. It seems, that a
regexp in org-use-tag-inheritance matching a tag set in #+FILETAGS
causes this error:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)
 string-match(^ + nil)
 org-format-agenda-item( nil org_filetag (tea test))
 byte-code(Æ ÇŽÈ ˆ`ŠÉ ˆ`)Ê\n!ƒ(	Tbˆ„#ËÌ!ˆÍÎÏ\ˆ*	bˆÐ ˆÑ”bˆÒӔ! 
Ô Õ`!#Ö×ØÑ!

#$$Ù$!TÚ \Û$%Ü\fÝ\fÞß
àáâ\ˆ$Bƒ~ѕbˆ‚‚ËÌ!ˆÏ‡ [save-match-data-internal beg end  
org-agenda-todo-list-sublevels marker category match-data ((byte- 
code ÁÂ\‡ [save-match-data-internal set-match-data evaporate]  
3)) beginning-of-line outline-next-heading org-agenda-check-for- 
timestamp-as-reason-to-ignore-todo-item org-end-of-subtree invisible  
throw :skip nil org-agenda-skip 1 org-agenda-new-marker 0 org-get- 
category org-get-tags-at org-format-agenda-item  match-string org- 
get-priority org-get-todo-state org-add-props org-marker org-hd- 
marker priority org-category type todo todo-state tags txt props  
ee] 15)

 org-agenda-get-todos()
 org-agenda-get-day-entries(~/org_filetag.org (3 24 2009) :todo)
 byte-code(Ä!ˆÅ	Æ#Ç\n\ć [file date rtn rtnall org-check- 
agenda-file org-agenda-get-day-entries :todo append] 4)

 org-todo-list(nil)
 call-interactively(org-todo-list)
 execute-extended-command(nil)
 call-interactively(execute-extended-command)

when org-use-tag-inheritance is set to regexp te
with this file:


#+STARTUP:
#+FILETAGS: tea
* TODO testing :test:
** TODO too:data:
-

When the regexp is tes, so that the FILETAG does not match,
org-todo-list produces a correct list.

(org-mode 6.24trans, updated from git 2009/03/25)

Harri

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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone ---- org-mode

[Carsten Dominik]

On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:



On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Brad Bozarth wrote:


A quick question - if I use a non-nil org-feed-assume-stable, will
that handle updating a changed reqall entry? This would be both for
the case of the entries initially saying Reqall is typing what you
said before they are transcribed, and for the case of editing an
existing entry on the iPhone or web interface.


No, things like this is handled yet.


I am really becoming incapable to write properly.  Sorry about that.

What I meant is this:

No, things like this are not handled.  I view this as a one-way
interface, capture to Org.

Maybe it would be good to catch things like reqall is typing to make
sure this entry will be ignored now and picked up again later...
With the current implementation, the entry will be captured in whatever
state it is, and then not look at it again.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone ---- org-mode

[Ian Barton]

I do hope that this will not stop python hackers from exploring
this further, because I thought that the python solution was really
good and innovative, and it shows what can be done with modules like
the ones Charles has put out.

- Carsten


Don't worry it wont:) I have set up a repo for my Python version at  	 
git://github.com/geekinthesticks/org-reqall.git . It doesn't have 
anything in it at the moment, because I stupidly put my own reqall rss 
url in one of the versions for testing purposes, so its in the version 
history.


Once I am happy that I have worked out how to make git rewrite history, 
I'll push it up there and post another message here.


Ian.


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[Orgmode] org-agenda-search-headline-for-time causes problems with diary entries

[Eric S Fraga]

Hello,

I was one of the people that wanted the new variable,
org-agenda-search-headline-for-time, and I'm really happy with it.

However, it seems to cause problems with the agenda view when diary
entries are included.  Timed data entries seem to be placed at the end
of the day, after non-timed entries, instead of in the grid as is the
case without setting that variable to nil.

I am using org-mode version 6.24b-1 from Debian experimental.

Is this a bug or a feature?

Thanks,
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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone ---- org-mode

[William Henney]

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Ian Barton li...@manor-farm.org wrote:


 I do hope that this will not stop python hackers from exploring
 this further, because I thought that the python solution was really
 good and innovative, and it shows what can be done with modules like
 the ones Charles has put out.

 - Carsten

 Don't worry it wont:) I have set up a repo for my Python version at
  git://github.com/geekinthesticks/org-reqall.git . It doesn't have anything
 in it at the moment, because I stupidly put my own reqall rss url in one of
 the versions for testing purposes, so its in the version history.


I also have been hacking on Ian's python script - I hope you don't mind!

I changed it to support Ta-da lists (tadalist.com) rather than reqall.
In my opinion, ta-da list is a much simpler and has a nice clean
interface. It has the disadvantage that it doesn't have an
accompanying iPhone/Touch app that works offline, although it does
have a beautiful ipod-optimized web interface. And it doesn't support
bling such as voice memos, but then reqall doesn't support voice memos
on the Touch either, even if you have an external mic :(

Anyway, I am attaching it (sync-tadalist.py) in case anyone finds it
useful. In particular, it has a few changes that Ian might want to
fold back into his version. For instance, it solves the private URL
problem by reading it from an external dot file. Also, the original
was repeatedly parsing the org file inside the loop over feed entries.
This is unnecessary, so I have moved it outside.

I guess that ideally we want a webservice that

1. Allows adding tasks etc via a mobile device, preferably with
offline capabilities and syncing

2. Exports RSS feeds of tasks so that org-mode can grab them

3. Exports an API that would let org-mode write information back to
the service, e.g., marking a task as done

Does anyone know of a service that supports all 3?

Cheers

Will


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Re: [Orgmode] generating titles in remember templates from w3 buffers [was:Re: feature request]

[Charles Philip Chan]

Charles Philip Chan cpc...@sympatico.ca writes:

 Hum, there is something wrong with your setup, %a works fine for me with
 Emacs-w3m  ([[http://www.gnu.org/][The GNU Operating System]]). Which
 version of remember are you using? My copy is from git.

Sorry for the noise, I mistook w3 for w3m. :-(

Charles

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[Orgmode] Re: generating titles in remember templates from w3 buffers [was:Re: feature request]

[Robert D. Crawford]

Hello Carsten,

Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:

 Unfortunately I do not know about a variable that does hold the
 title of a page in w3.  In w3m there is w3m-current-title.
 In w3, all I was able to find is the URL via

 (org-view-url t)

 If anyone knows the magic incantation to extract the page
 title in a w3 buffer, I'd be happy to make it the default
 for the link description.

The way this is implemented in emacspeak and in bmk-mgr is to use the
buffer-name.  As far as I know that is the only way to get the current
title from w3.  IIRC, I implemented this in emacspeak and I know I did
it in bmk-mgr.  I assume that if Dr. Raman signed off it can't be too
wrong.  

Thanks for your help,
rdc
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[Orgmode] add a list item and automatically insert an incative timestamp without being asked to confirm now

[Rainer Stengele]

Hi all,

I want to write a function to create a new item in an item list and immediately
insert an inactive timestamp. How could I possibly do this?
I can write a keyboard macro, yes.
But can somebody show me how to write a function which I can global-set-key to?


Must be something like
...
(org-meta-return)
(org-time-stamp-inactive t)
...


Problem is I then get asked to confirm the current timestamp. In this case I
always want to use the current timestamp without being asked.

Thanks,

Rainer



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: feature request

[Charles Philip Chan]

Robert D. Crawford rd...@comcast.net writes:

 I use emacs and emacspeak almost exclusively for my computing
 needs. Sorry I wasn't clear in my needs and use.

I am curious as to why you are using w3, since, from what I have read,
emacspeak supports w3m as well:

  http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/info/html/emacs_002dw3m.html

w3 is so slow and feature incomplete.

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[Orgmode] Re: iPhone ---- org-mode

[Bernt Hansen]

Ian Barton li...@manor-farm.org writes:

 Don't worry it wont:) I have set up a repo for my Python version at
 git://github.com/geekinthesticks/org-reqall.git . It doesn't have
 anything in it at the moment, because I stupidly put my own reqall rss
 url in one of the versions for testing purposes, so its in the version
 history.

 Once I am happy that I have worked out how to make git rewrite
 history, I'll push it up there and post another message here.

You can use git rebase -i to rewrite the commit with your private URL
(maybe to a configuration variable value instead) and then push the
result.

Something like this:

   git rebase -i Commit SHA to fix^
   edit file to fix it up
   git add file
   git rebase --continue

HTH,
Bernt


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[Orgmode] Re: feature request

[Robert D. Crawford]

Hello Charles,

Charles Philip Chan cpc...@sympatico.ca writes:

 Robert D. Crawford rd...@comcast.net writes:

 I use emacs and emacspeak almost exclusively for my computing
 needs. Sorry I wasn't clear in my needs and use.

 I am curious as to why you are using w3, since, from what I have read,
 emacspeak supports w3m as well:

That is true.

 w3 is so slow and feature incomplete.

Slow, yes.  Feature incomplete, no.  There are several things w3 can do
that w3m cannot.  Table navigation, support for aural css, fontification
of all tags (pre, code, and the like immediately come to mind),
different attributes for h[1-6] tags, I am aware of nothing w3m can do
that w3 cannot.  Also, since w3 is pure lisp it can be extended in ways
that w3m cannot.  

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[Orgmode] Re: generating titles in remember templates from w3 buffers [was:Re: feature request]

[Robert D. Crawford]

Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:

 I have just tried a few pages including orgmode.org, and
 the buffer name is Untitled.  Am I using an old version of w3,
 or if orgmode.org broken in this way?

Not sure.  If I open orgmode.org and then eval the expression
(buffer-name) it returns the name of the buffer, which w3 gets from the
title tag.  Considering the speed of w3 releases (or lack thereof) I
doubt you have a different version from what I have here.  Here are the
pertinent version numbers:

emacs/w3: WWW p4.0pre.47, URL Emacs
emacs: GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) of 2009-02-03 on t40

I am running about a month and a half behind upgrading emacs.  If you
think that might be a problem I can update.

Thanks for your help,
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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone ---- org-mode

[John Rakestraw]

Hi Carsten --

I suspect this is some error in my set-up.

 Just a quick note, org-feed.el is still changing, the interface and  
 settings
 may still change - I will fix it for the 6.25 release.  Until then,  
 please
 test it, but be prepared for changes.

I'm trying to use this, but I can't get it to work. 

I've added this to my .emacs:


(setq org-feed-alist
  '((ReQall
 
http://www.reqall.com/user/feeds/rss/8dc53e3aff648650b9996a61717a75adf27c54dc;
 ~/Dropbox/plans/feeds.org ReQall Entries
 :filter my-reqall-filter)))

(defun my-reqall-filter (e)
  (when (equal (plist-get e :category) Task)
(setq e (plist-put e :title
  (concat TODO  (plist-get e :title)
  e)
-

I've added FEEDGUIDS as a drawer.

If I delete all my tasks from my reQall account and then run
org-feed-update-all I get the expected response no new entries from
one feed.

However, if I add one task to my reQall account, Try to pull reqall
rss feed into org file, and then run org-feed-update-all I get this
in the messages buffer: 

Debugger entered: nil
  (save-current-buffer (set-buffer temp-buffer) (insert template)
(debug) (goto-char (point-min)) (while (re-search-forward
%\\([a-zA-Z]+\\) nil t) (setq name ...) (cond ... ... t)) (setq entry
(plist-put entry :formatted-for-org ...))) (with-current-buffer
temp-buffer (insert template) (debug) (goto-char (point-min)) (while
(re-search-forward %\\([a-zA-Z]+\\) nil t) (setq name ...)
(cond ... ... t)) (setq entry (plist-put
entry :formatted-for-org ...))) (unwind-protect (with-current-buffer
temp-buffer (insert template) (debug) (goto-char ...)
(while ... ... ...) (setq entry ...)) (and (buffer-name temp-buffer)
(kill-buffer temp-buffer))) (let ((temp-buffer ...)) (unwind-protect
(with-current-buffer temp-buffer ... ... ... ... ...) (and ... ...)))
(with-temp-buffer (insert template) (debug) (goto-char (point-min))
(while (re-search-forward %\\([a-zA-Z]+\\) nil t) (setq name ...)
(cond ... ... t)) (setq entry (plist-put
entry :formatted-for-org ...))) (let (dlines fmt tmp indent) (setq
dlines (org-split-string ... \n) v-h (or ... ... ???) time
(or ... ...) v-t (format-time-string ... time) v-T
(format-time-string ... time) v-u (format-time-string ... time) v-U
(format-time-string ... time) v-a (if ... ... )) (with-temp-buffer
(insert template) (debug) (goto-char ...) (while ... ... ...) (setq
entry ...))) (if (or (not entry) (plist-get entry :formatted-for-org))
nil (let (dlines fmt tmp indent) (setq dlines ... v-h ... time ...
v-t ... v-T ... v-u ... v-U ... v-a ...)
(with-temp-buffer ... ... ... ... ...))) (unless (or (not entry)
(plist-get entry :formatted-for-org)) (let (dlines fmt tmp indent)
(setq dlines ... v-h ... time ... v-t ... v-T ... v-u ... v-U ...
v-a ...) (with-temp-buffer ... ... ... ... ...)))
org-feed-format-entry((:guid 2416179132 :item-full-text \n
titleTry to pull reqall rss into org file/title\n
linkhttp://www.reqall.com/web/posts/link\n  guid
isPermaLink=\false\2416179132/guid\n
categoryTask/category\n  descriptionTask: Try to pull reqall
rss into org file/description\n  pubDateWed, 25 Mar 2009
20:25:43 -/pubDate\n :title TODO Try to pull reqall rss
into org file :link http://www.reqall.com/web/posts; :category
Task :description Task: Try to pull reqall rss into org
file :pubDate Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:25:43 -) * %h\n  %U\n
%description\n  %a\n) (lambda (e) (org-feed-format-entry e
feed-template))((:guid 2416179132 :item-full-text \n  titleTry
to pull reqall rss into org file/title\n
linkhttp://www.reqall.com/web/posts/link\n  guid
isPermaLink=\false\2416179132/guid\n
categoryTask/category\n  descriptionTask: Try to pull reqall
rss into org file/description\n  pubDateWed, 25 Mar 2009
20:25:43 -/pubDate\n :title TODO Try to pull reqall rss
into org file :link http://www.reqall.com/web/posts; :category
Task :description Task: Try to pull reqall rss into org
file :pubDate Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:25:43 -)) mapcar((lambda (e)
(org-feed-format-entry e feed-template)) ((:guid
2416179132 :item-full-text \n  titleTry to pull reqall rss
into org file/title\n
linkhttp://www.reqall.com/web/posts/link\n  guid
isPermaLink=\false\2416179132/guid\n
categoryTask/category\n  descriptionTask: Try to pull reqall
rss into org file/description\n  pubDateWed, 25 Mar 2009
20:25:43 -/pubDate\n :title TODO Try to pull reqall rss
into org file :link http://www.reqall.com/web/posts; :category
Task :description Task: Try to pull reqall rss into org
file :pubDate Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:25:43 -))) (delq nil (mapcar
(lambda ... ...) new-selected)) (setq new-selected (delq nil
(mapcar ... new-selected))) (if (not new) (progn (message No new items
in feed %s feed-name) 0) (run-hooks (quote
org-feed-before-adding-hook)) (setq new-selected new) (when feed-filter
(setq new-selected ...)) (setq new-selected (delq nil ...)) (apply
(quote 

Re: [Orgmode] iPhone ---- org-mode

[Carsten Dominik]

This looks like I forgot a (debug) line somewhere in there

- Carsten

On Mar 25, 2009, at 9:39 PM, John Rakestraw wrote:


Hi Carsten --

I suspect this is some error in my set-up.


Just a quick note, org-feed.el is still changing, the interface and
settings
may still change - I will fix it for the 6.25 release.  Until then,
please
test it, but be prepared for changes.


I'm trying to use this, but I can't get it to work.

I've added this to my .emacs:


(setq org-feed-alist
 '((ReQall
http://www.reqall.com/user/feeds/rss/8dc53e3aff648650b9996a61717a75adf27c54dc 


~/Dropbox/plans/feeds.org ReQall Entries
:filter my-reqall-filter)))

   (defun my-reqall-filter (e)
 (when (equal (plist-get e :category) Task)
   (setq e (plist-put e :title
 (concat TODO  (plist-get e :title)
 e)
-

I've added FEEDGUIDS as a drawer.

If I delete all my tasks from my reQall account and then run
org-feed-update-all I get the expected response no new entries from
one feed.

However, if I add one task to my reQall account, Try to pull reqall
rss feed into org file, and then run org-feed-update-all I get this
in the messages buffer:

Debugger entered: nil
 (save-current-buffer (set-buffer temp-buffer) (insert template)
(debug) (goto-char (point-min)) (while (re-search-forward
%\\([a-zA-Z]+\\) nil t) (setq name ...) (cond ... ... t)) (setq  
entry

(plist-put entry :formatted-for-org ...))) (with-current-buffer
temp-buffer (insert template) (debug) (goto-char (point-min)) (while
(re-search-forward %\\([a-zA-Z]+\\) nil t) (setq name ...)
(cond ... ... t)) (setq entry (plist-put
entry :formatted-for-org ...))) (unwind-protect (with-current-buffer
temp-buffer (insert template) (debug) (goto-char ...)
(while ... ... ...) (setq entry ...)) (and (buffer-name temp-buffer)
(kill-buffer temp-buffer))) (let ((temp-buffer ...)) (unwind-protect
(with-current-buffer temp-buffer ... ... ... ... ...) (and ... ...)))
(with-temp-buffer (insert template) (debug) (goto-char (point-min))
(while (re-search-forward %\\([a-zA-Z]+\\) nil t) (setq name ...)
(cond ... ... t)) (setq entry (plist-put
entry :formatted-for-org ...))) (let (dlines fmt tmp indent) (setq
dlines (org-split-string ... \n) v-h (or ... ... ???) time
(or ... ...) v-t (format-time-string ... time) v-T
(format-time-string ... time) v-u (format-time-string ... time) v-U
(format-time-string ... time) v-a (if ... ... )) (with-temp-buffer
(insert template) (debug) (goto-char ...) (while ... ... ...) (setq
entry ...))) (if (or (not entry) (plist-get entry :formatted-for-org))
nil (let (dlines fmt tmp indent) (setq dlines ... v-h ... time ...
v-t ... v-T ... v-u ... v-U ... v-a ...)
(with-temp-buffer ... ... ... ... ...))) (unless (or (not entry)
(plist-get entry :formatted-for-org)) (let (dlines fmt tmp indent)
(setq dlines ... v-h ... time ... v-t ... v-T ... v-u ... v-U ...
v-a ...) (with-temp-buffer ... ... ... ... ...)))
org-feed-format-entry((:guid 2416179132 :item-full-text \n
titleTry to pull reqall rss into org file/title\n
linkhttp://www.reqall.com/web/posts/link\n  guid
isPermaLink=\false\2416179132/guid\n
categoryTask/category\n  descriptionTask: Try to pull reqall
rss into org file/description\n  pubDateWed, 25 Mar 2009
20:25:43 -/pubDate\n :title TODO Try to pull reqall rss
into org file :link http://www.reqall.com/web/posts; :category
Task :description Task: Try to pull reqall rss into org
file :pubDate Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:25:43 -) * %h\n  %U\n
%description\n  %a\n) (lambda (e) (org-feed-format-entry e
feed-template))((:guid 2416179132 :item-full-text \n   
titleTry

to pull reqall rss into org file/title\n
linkhttp://www.reqall.com/web/posts/link\n  guid
isPermaLink=\false\2416179132/guid\n
categoryTask/category\n  descriptionTask: Try to pull reqall
rss into org file/description\n  pubDateWed, 25 Mar 2009
20:25:43 -/pubDate\n :title TODO Try to pull reqall rss
into org file :link http://www.reqall.com/web/posts; :category
Task :description Task: Try to pull reqall rss into org
file :pubDate Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:25:43 -)) mapcar((lambda (e)
(org-feed-format-entry e feed-template)) ((:guid
2416179132 :item-full-text \n  titleTry to pull reqall rss
into org file/title\n
linkhttp://www.reqall.com/web/posts/link\n  guid
isPermaLink=\false\2416179132/guid\n
categoryTask/category\n  descriptionTask: Try to pull reqall
rss into org file/description\n  pubDateWed, 25 Mar 2009
20:25:43 -/pubDate\n :title TODO Try to pull reqall rss
into org file :link http://www.reqall.com/web/posts; :category
Task :description Task: Try to pull reqall rss into org
file :pubDate Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:25:43 -))) (delq nil (mapcar
(lambda ... ...) new-selected)) (setq new-selected (delq nil
(mapcar ... new-selected))) (if (not new) (progn (message No new  
items

in feed %s feed-name) 0) (run-hooks (quote
org-feed-before-adding-hook)) 

Re: [Orgmode] Re: generating titles in remember templates from w3 buffers [was:Re: feature request]

[Nick Dokos]

Robert D. Crawford rd...@comcast.net wrote:

 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:
 
  I have just tried a few pages including orgmode.org, and
  the buffer name is Untitled.  Am I using an old version of w3,
  or if orgmode.org broken in this way?
 
 Not sure.  If I open orgmode.org and then eval the expression
 (buffer-name) it returns the name of the buffer, which w3 gets from the
 title tag.  Considering the speed of w3 releases (or lack thereof) I
 doubt you have a different version from what I have here.  Here are the
 pertinent version numbers:
 
 emacs/w3: WWW p4.0pre.47, URL Emacs
 emacs: GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) of 2009-02-03 on t40
 
 I am running about a month and a half behind upgrading emacs.  If you
 think that might be a problem I can update.
 

I just fetched and built the version of W3 that Robert mentions.
When I do

 M-x w3-fetch http://orgmode.org RET

I get the (badly rendered) orgmode home page in a buffer, an error and a 
backtrace
(appended), but when I evaluate (buffer-name) in the orgmode buffer, I do indeed
get

Org-Mode: Your Life in Plain Text

HTH,
Nick

PS. Backtrace follows - since I usually use an external browser, I've not tried
to track down what the error is:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument symbolp (cdr (assq (quote 
class) munged)))
  w3-display-node((*document nil ((html ... ...
  w3-draw-tree(((*document nil (...
  w3-prepare-buffer()
  w3-fetch-callback(http://orgmode.org;)
  w3-fetch-redirect-callback(nil http://orgmode.org;)
  apply(w3-fetch-redirect-callback (nil http://orgmode.org;))
  url-http-activate-callback()
  url-http-content-length-after-change-function(13521 15498 1977)
  url-http-generic-filter(#process web-proxy.atl.hp.com d=\get\ 
action=\http://search.gmane.org/\;\ninput type=\text\ 
name=\query\\ninput type=\hidden\ name=\group\ 
value=\gmane.emacs.orgmode\\ninput type=\submit\ value=\Search 
gmane.emacs.orgmode\\n/form\n\n/li\n/ul\n/div\n\n/div\n\ndiv 
id=\outline-container-5.3\ class=\outline-3\\nh3 id=\sec-5.3\Worg 
/h3\ndiv class=\outline-text-3\ id=\text-5.3\\n\n\np\na 
href=\http://orgmode.org/worg/\;Worg/a, created by a 
href=\http://www.cognition.ens.fr/~guerry/\;Bastien Guerry/a, is a setup to 
allow users to jointly\nedit a number of Org-mode files containing 
documentation about\nOrg-mode, including the a 
href=\http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.php\;Org Mode FAQ/a and a 
href=\http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/index.php\;Tutorials/a.  Worg 
is similar\nto a wiki in that allows community to edit the contents.  
However,\nsince it uses a distributed version contr
 ol system, you do not have to\nbe online while editing it.  If you'd like to 
contribute to Worg,\nplease go to a href=\http://orgmode.org/worg/\;the Worg 
page/a, and start from there.\n/p\n/div\n\n/div\n\ndiv 
id=\outline-container-5.4\ class=\outline-3\\nh3 
id=\sec-5.4\Contributing to Org-mode /h3\ndiv class=\outline-text-3\ 
id=\text-5.4\\n\n\np\nYou can always contribute with ideas and bug reports 
on the mailing\nlist.  If you want to contribute a patch, code snippets, or a 
full\nadd-on, this is very welcome too!  We do distribute good add-ons 
as\ncontributed packages.  However, to integrate additions into the\nOrg-mode 
core, the author needs to assign the copyright to the a 
href=\http://www.fsf.org/\;Free Software Foundation/a.  This is because 
Org-mode is part of Emacs, which\nadheres to very strict rules.  If you would 
like to sign the papers,\nuse a href=\request-assign-future.txt\this 
form/a, fill it in and a href=\mailto:ass
 i...@gnu.org,carsten.domi...@gmail.com\send/a it to the FSF with a copy to 
the\nOrg-mode 
maintainer.\n/p\n/div\n/div\n/div\n\n/div\n/body\n/html\n)


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Re: [Orgmode] Workflow Ideas/questions

[Manish]

  On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:21 AM, David Thole wrote:
   Hey all,
  
   I was thinking a bit about my workflow with org-mode, and I'm thinking
   that I should change up a bit of how I'm doing stuff. Basically what I do
   now is use org-mode for my GTD stuff (that is, ticket management, notes
   about tickets, etc), and then use muse mode for other stuff.
  
   Right now my structure is:
   ris.org = my tickets specific to work
   work.org = my work tasks that aren't tickets
   home.org = my home tasks
  
   The problem I have now is that I use muse-mode for project notes, which
   can be on multiple machines sometimes. So the agenda itself loads those
   three org files to display the ris/work/home tasks, and I use follow mode
   and add a few notes here and there to the tickets, (ris.org files that
   is).

I am sorry but I did not understand your problem.  May be you would be
better off keeping your notes in org mode as well (unless there is a
more compelling reason to the contrary.)

  
  
   So really my curious workflow questions are:
   * Ticket information - SQL statement, code, etc..that can get pretty
   verbose. Is a drawer OK for that? How do others handle that information

I would prefer folding it using a list item or may be a sub-heading.

  
   * Meeting notes - would another org file be useful for that? If I
   want to publish the file into something that could have a TOC and
   all that...I don't know how to explain this better, I kinda want
   something to be able to view this through a browser
   sometimes. *shrug* some ideas on this would be helpful

How about selecting and publishing only the region?

   * Organization - Could I organize things more efficiently? Thinking
   of maybe using properties drawer a bit more.

I would suggest noticing where you have to spend most of your
attention and key strokes etc. and may be then optimize that.  Try
using tags more; they are almost magical with fast filtering.

Regards
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[Orgmode] Re: Workflow Ideas/questions

[Peter Jones]

David Thole dth...@gmail.com writes:
 I was thinking a bit about my workflow with org-mode, and I'm thinking
 that I should change up a bit of how I'm doing stuff.  Basically what I do
 now is use org-mode for my GTD stuff (that is, ticket management, notes
 about tickets, etc), and then use muse mode for other stuff.


I'm not sure I have any specific recommendations for you, but thought
I'd share my setup, and maybe it will help somehow.

I use Muse for writing documents and blog articles, and Org to manage my
entire life a la GTD.  I have my workflow split into the following
files:

| File   | Purpose  |
|+--|
| checklists.org | Recuring tasks (pay phone bill), trigger lists, etc. |
| projects.org   | Projects with concrete action lists  |
| review.org | Information that I may need to review later, notes   |
| someday.org| Projects that I might do someday, but not right now  |

I use top-level headings in the projects.org file to split my projects
into categories:

* Personal
** Some Personal Project
*** NEXT Next action
* Business
** Some Business Project
*** NEXT Next action

I also have one org file for each one of my clients.  These client files
have top-level headings that mirror my main files, for example:

* Notes / Review
* Checklists
* Someday / Maybe
* Projects

There is a file-level tag of :project: in the projects.org file, and in
the client files I tag the Projects heading with :project:.

Relevant org variables:

 org-stuck-projects '(+LEVEL=2+project|+LEVEL=3+subproject (NEXT PENDING) 
(single) )

 org-agenda-custom-commands
 '((d Daily Agenda
((agenda 
 ((org-agenda-todo-keyword-format )
  (org-agenda-remove-tags t)))
 (tags LEVEL=2+goals
   ((org-agenda-remove-tags t)
(org-agenda-prefix-format   )
   (org-agenda-todo-keyword-format )))
 (todo NEXT 
   ((org-agenda-sorting-strategy '(tag-up))
(org-agenda-show-inherited-tags nil)
(org-agenda-todo-keyword-format )))
 (todo PENDING
   ((org-agenda-todo-keyword-format )))
 (stuck 
((org-agenda-remove-tags t))

I look at the above agenda view several times a day (probably hundreds).
I narrow and widen the focus to specific contexts, and to client tasks
via tags throughout the day to keep from procrastinating.

Honestly, Org is the most import tool in my life.  After years of
playing with GTD and trying to make it work for me, Org finally put
everything into place.

HTH,

-- 
Peter Jones, http://pmade.com
pmade inc.  Louisville, CO US



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[Orgmode] Re: bug: using remember can cause data corruption in other buffers

[Samuel Wales]

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 20:13, Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com wrote:
  (set (make-variable-buffer-local ...) t)

That should be make-local-variable .

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[Orgmode] cannot properly export function name with underline to HTML

[roc lee]

I have function names in both a text block and a table cell, for example:
function_name_with_underline()

When I publish it in HTML format, the underline was interpreted incorrectly:

functionsubname/subsubwith/subsubunderline/sub


=function_name_with_underline()= works, but to warp all function
names is boring.

Is there any solution to solve it?


Many thanks.


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Re: [Orgmode] bug: using remember can cause data corruption in other buffers

[Carsten Dominik]

On Mar 26, 2009, at 4:13 AM, Samuel Wales wrote:


Hi Carsten,

The following form in org-remember.el appears to set the global value.

   (setq auto-save-visited-file-name t)

This is the right thing for remember buffers, but it should be
buffer-local.  It could lead to data corruption in other buffers if
you make changes that you don't intend to be permanent.

I think that

 (set (make-variable-buffer-local ...) t)

would fix it.


Applied, thanks.



This might or might not also fix a bug where emacs thinks that another
process is locking the file that is currently being edited.  I don't
know why.

Once this is fixed, I recommend that everybody who used git within the
last day or so, and I think set the remember directory


Yes, this wil only have caused a problem for people who actually set  
the backup

directory.

Thank you.

- Carsten



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[Orgmode] Please pull and restart

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi everyone,

as Samuel just pointed out:

If you pulled org-mode from git the the last two days, and if you have  
set the

variable org-remember-backup-directory,

please

- pull again now
- restart Emacs

This is to protect you against problems with auto-saving of files
and possible data loss.

- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] feature request

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Robert,

if you pull a new git version, the page title will now correctly
appear in links created in w3-mode buffers.

Thanks to all who contributed to this discussion.

- Carsten

On Mar 23, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Robert D. Crawford wrote:


I've been trying to make an org-remember template that will grab the
title of the webpage I want to create a link to.  This seems to not be
possible, although I could very well be wrong.  I was curious as to
whether a new keyword could be created for w3 and w3m links.  Seems  
that

:title would be very useful.

I am pretty sure I could code this myself... doesn't seem to be  
terribly
difficult.  It is not likely though that I would ever contribute  
code to
anything else, so filling out the form and waiting for all of it to  
get

where it needs to go seems a bit of a waste.

Thanks for listening,
rdc
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Re: [Orgmode] cannot properly export function name with underline to HTML

[Eric Schulte]

roc lee roc.lee...@gmail.com writes:

 I have function names in both a text block and a table cell, for example:
 function_name_with_underline()

 When I publish it in HTML format, the underline was interpreted incorrectly:

 functionsubname/subsubwith/subsubunderline/sub


Try setting the ^ option to nil with a line like the following at the
top of your org file

#+OPTIONS: ^:nil

Cheers -- Eric


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