[Orgmode] Re: bug with spaces in regexp search

2010-09-23 Thread Noorul Islam K M
Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes:

 Meaning?

I meant,

I have both these variables set as nil

org-agenda-search-view-always-boolean
org-agenda-search-view-force-full-words

and then in org agenda buffer. I typed M-x org-search-view and then
typed in faster than which displayed the expected filtered result.

I am running

Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h.555.g90cc)
GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.12) of
2010-01-30 on noorul

Does that make it clear?

Thanks and Regards
Noorul

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[Orgmode] Re: bug with spaces in regexp search

2010-09-23 Thread Samuel Wales
Why is that important?

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[Orgmode] Bug: subtree export fails with src block

2010-09-23 Thread Christian Moe

Hi,

Selecting a subtree only, export to html fails if the subtree contains 
a src block. Using 7.01trans, freshly pulled, on Emacs 23.


Example

file: test2.org
---

* Heading 1

Text

* Heading 2

Text

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
  (message Something funny with export)
#+end_src

---

Exporting the whole works fine.

Exporting the first subtree (C-c C-e 1 b) works, but leaves an active 
region around the subtree.


Exporting the second subtree fails, producing no output, with these
messages:

: Exporting...
: org-babel-exp processing...
: org-open-file: No such file: /Users/CM/org/test2.org::

A backtrace is attached.

Yours,
Christian
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error #(No such file: 
/Users/CM/org/test2.org:: 14 39 (org-attr nil)))
  signal(error (#(No such file: /Users/CM/org/test2.org:: 14 39 (org-attr 
nil
  error(No such file: %s #(/Users/CM/org/test2.org:: 0 25 (org-attr nil)))
  (if (and (not ...) (not ...) (not org-open-non-existing-files)) (error No 
such file: %s file))
  (let* ((file ...) (file-apps ...) (apps ...) (apps-dlink ...) (remp ...) 
(dirp ...) (file ...) (a-m-a-p ...) (dfile ...) (link ...) (dlink ...) 
(old-buffer ...) (old-pos ...) (old-mode major-mode) ext cmd link-match-data) 
(if (string-match ^.*\\.\\([a-zA-Z0-9]+\\.gz\\)$ dfile) (setq ext ...) (if 
... ...)) (cond (... ...) (in-emacs ...) (t ...)) (when (eq cmd ...) (setq cmd 
...)) (when (eq cmd ...) (setq cmd ...)) (when (eq cmd ...) (require ...) 
(mailcap-parse-mailcaps) (let* ... ...)) (if (and ... ... ...) (error No such 
file: %s file)) (cond (... ... ... ... ...) (... ... ... ...) (... ...) (t 
...)) (and (org-mode-p) (eq old-mode ...) (or ... ...) (org-mark-ring-push 
old-pos old-buffer)))
  org-open-file(#(/Users/CM/org/test2.org:: 0 25 (org-attr nil)) nil nil nil)
  (if (string-match [*?{] (file-name-nondirectory path)) (dired path) 
(org-open-file path in-emacs line search))
  (cond ((assoc type org-link-protocols) (funcall ... path)) ((equal type 
mailto) (let ... ... ... ...)) ((member type ...) (browse-url ...)) ((string= 
type doi) (browse-url ...)) ((member type ...) (browse-url ...)) ((string= 
type tags) (org-tags-view in-emacs path)) ((string= type tree-match) 
(org-occur ...)) ((string= type file) (if ... ... ...) (if ... ... ...)) 
((string= type news) (require ...) (org-gnus-follow-link path)) ((string= 
type shell) (let ... ...)) ((string= type elisp) (let ... ...)) ((and ... 
...)) ((string= type thisfile) (if in-emacs ... ...) (let ... ...)) (t 
(browse-url-at-point)))
  (save-current-buffer (set-buffer (or reference-buffer ...)) (if (string-match 
 +\\' path) (setq path ...)) (if (and org-link-translation-function ...) (let 
... ...)) (cond (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) 
(... ...) (... ... ...) (... ... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (...) (... ... ...) 
(t ...)))
  (with-current-buffer (or reference-buffer (current-buffer)) (if (string-match 
 +\\' path) (setq path ...)) (if (and org-link-translation-function ...) (let 
... ...)) (cond (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) 
(... ...) (... ... ...) (... ... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (...) (... ... ...) 
(t ...)))
  (let (type path link line search (pos ...)) (catch (quote match) 
(save-excursion ... ...) (when ... ... ...) (save-excursion ...) 
(save-excursion ...) (when ... ... ...)) (unless path (error No link found)) 
(with-current-buffer (or reference-buffer ...) (if ... ...) (if ... ...) (cond 
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...)))
  (cond ((and ... ... ...) (or ... ...)) ((run-hook-with-args-until-success 
...)) ((org-at-timestamp-p t) (org-follow-timestamp-link)) ((or ... ...) 
(org-footnote-action)) (t (let ... ... ... ...)))
  (if (call-interactively (function org-babel-open-src-block-result)) nil 
(org-load-modules-maybe) (move-marker org-open-link-marker (point)) (setq 
org-window-config-before-follow-link (current-window-configuration)) 
(org-remove-occur-highlights nil nil t) (cond (... ...) (...) (... ...) (... 
...) (t ...)) (move-marker org-open-link-marker nil) (run-hook-with-args (quote 
org-follow-link-hook)))
  (unless (call-interactively (function org-babel-open-src-block-result)) 
(org-load-modules-maybe) (move-marker org-open-link-marker (point)) (setq 
org-window-config-before-follow-link (current-window-configuration)) 
(org-remove-occur-highlights nil nil t) (cond (... ...) (...) (... ...) (... 
...) (t ...)) (move-marker org-open-link-marker nil) (run-hook-with-args (quote 
org-follow-link-hook)))
  org-open-at-point(nil #buffer test2.org)
  (let ((org-inhibit-startup t)) (org-mode) (insert s) (goto-char (point-min)) 
(when reference-buffer (setq org-link-abbrev-alist-local ...)) 
(org-open-at-point arg reference-buffer))
  (progn (let (...) (org-mode) (insert s) (goto-char ...) (when 
reference-buffer ...) (org-open-at-point arg reference-buffer)))
  (unwind-protect (progn (let ... ... ... ... ... ...)) (and 

Re: [Orgmode] Re: does #+PROPERTY still exist ?

2010-09-23 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 23, 2010, at 7:19 AM, Vincent Belaïche wrote:


Thanks for the feedback,

I'll download the latest.

Yes, I just meant that *completion* does not work for property name,  
addition of property works fine.


I have just fixed this issue, now completion should work on both the # 
+property

keyword itself, as well as the property name after it.

Cheers

- Carsten



Vincent.

 To: nicholas.do...@hp.com
 From: nicholas.do...@hp.com
 Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Re: does #+PROPERTY still exist ?
 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:34:19 -0400
 CC: vincent@hotmail.fr; emacs-orgmode@gnu.org;

 Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote:

  Vincent Belaïche vincent@hotmail.fr wrote:
 
  ...
   2.2 The completion at `Value:' prompt does not propose 1 2 or 3
  
 
  Yes. I don't know how difficult it would be to add these features.
 

 Actually, pressing TAB after the value prompt *does* produce the  
list

 of allowed values in the more-or-less current version I'm running:

 Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h.500.gbbac.dirty)

 Nick


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Re: [Orgmode] Agenda Question

2010-09-23 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 22, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Andre Powell wrote:

I hope that this is not a stupid question. Is there anyway to move  
forward in the agenda view and have the scheduled and due items from  
the current day move forward as well? The reason that I ask is I  
typically try and review my next day the night before so I can print  
it out and be ready for the morning, with Murhpy's Law (like today,  
I was a little behind).


Any help would be appreciated.


This is currently not possible.  But if you create a two-day view
with today and tomorrow in there, you see everything you need to see.

- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] bug with spaces in regexp search

2010-09-23 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:36 PM, Samuel Wales wrote:


With the headline * text search much faster than tag search


Is that so?


and an agenda text search:

 {faster than} does not return it
 {faster\ than} also


Either of these should now (after pulling) do the trick.

Cheers

- Carsten



I think of {...} as a single token even if it has spaces in it.

Thanks.

Samuel


Settings:

 (setf org-agenda-search-view-always-boolean t)
 (setf org-agenda-search-view-force-full-words t)

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Re: [Orgmode] Effort columnview: Show total in different column

2010-09-23 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 22, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Nathan Neff wrote:


I'd like to generate a columnview that shows totals in a separate
column, like the clockreport.

Something like this:

| Total | Effort. | Task   |
|---+--+|
| 4 |  | Main Task  |
|   |2 | Sub Task 1 |
|   |2 | Sub Task  2 |

Any ideas where to start?


This would be a rather complex change, hard to implement.

- Carsten


Currently, if I just define a columnview,
then the output looks like this:
| Est. | Task|
|--+-|
| 1:00 | * Main Task |
| 0:30 | Sub Task 1   |
| 0:30 | Sub Task 2   |

Thanks,
--Nate

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: FLOSS Weekly show about Org-mode

2010-09-23 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 22, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Memnon Anon wrote:


Puneeth puncha...@gmail.com writes:


It was a wonderful interview. Always a pleasure watching Carsten talk
about org-mode.


*sigh*, I missed it.
And my wlan sucks that much, I probably would not have enjoyed a live
stream.

So, when can I download the whole thing and watch it after the fact?


Usually 2 to 3 days...

- Carsten


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[Orgmode] Re: Bug: subtree export fails with src block

2010-09-23 Thread Noorul Islam K M
Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com writes:

 Hi,

 Selecting a subtree only, export to html fails if the subtree contains
 a src block. Using 7.01trans, freshly pulled, on Emacs 23.

 Example

 file: test2.org
 ---

 * Heading 1

 Text

 * Heading 2

 Text

 #+begin_src emacs-lisp
   (message Something funny with export)
 #+end_src

 ---

 Exporting the whole works fine.

 Exporting the first subtree (C-c C-e 1 b) works, but leaves an active
 region around the subtree.

Yes you are right. I am able to reproduce this.


 Exporting the second subtree fails, producing no output, with these
 messages:

 : Exporting...
 : org-babel-exp processing...
 : org-open-file: No such file: /Users/CM/org/test2.org::


I am not able to reproduce this. I did not get any errors.

I have

Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h.555.g90cc.dirty)
GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.12) of 2010-01-30 on 
noorul

Thanks and Regards
Noorul


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[Orgmode] Re: output of shell command in agenda

2010-09-23 Thread henry atting
On Mi, Sep 22 2010, Bastien wrote:

 Hi henry,

 henry atting nsmp...@online.de writes:

 I am using ledger to track my finances. I would like to have a brief
 summary of some part of it in org agenda.

 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-ledger.php
 should give direction on how to display ledger output in Org files.

 I don't see how you would like to include ledger output in org agenda
 but perhaps `E' could help.

Hi Bastien, thanks, yes that's nice.

What I actually do at the moment is: I insert two shell links in an org
agenda file, like `ledger bal bank' and `ledger bal cash', tag them both
so  that they are displayed when calling org-agenda.
This does not mess up my agenda view a bit and is very comfortable as
well.

henry

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [bug] Gnus author in capture templates not working

2010-09-23 Thread Bastien
David Maus dm...@ictsoc.de writes:

 I've started to implement the :date property for the other mailers and
 thought about:

  - date :: literal content of the date header field
  - date-timestamp :: active timestamp for the date header field
  - date-timestamp-ia :: inactive timestamp for the date header field

That'd be good indeed, thanks.

I personnaly prefer explicit names like date-timestamp-inactive, 
as it only goes in people's config files.

-- 
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[Orgmode] Yet another way to use maps --- the light way

2010-09-23 Thread Sebastian Rose
Hi,


there is a light and easy way to use google and openstreetmap.org maps
if you define them as a custom link type:


(setq org-link-abbrev-alist
  '((gmap
 . http://maps.google.com/maps?q=%s;)
(omap
  . http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search?q=%spolygon=1;)))



Now
  [[gmap:Falkenstr 10, Hannover, Germany][Falkenstraße]]

and
  [[omap:Falkenstr 10, Hannover, Germany]]

show a map in your browser.  LaTeX and HTML export works out the box
with the advantage, that this export can legally be published on the
internet without any additional action (API license key).  Even on
commercial sites, as it's just a link to google.  OSM is no problem
anyway.


This way it's possible to show a certain place on earth, but not a track
or route.



There's a (known) bug in the LaTeX eporter:

[[Falkenstraße 10, Hannover, Germany]]

will _not_ work, because the german Umlaut will be distorted somehow
(unless fixed already)



  Sebastian


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Re: [Orgmode] Yet another way to use maps --- the light way

2010-09-23 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 23, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote:


Hi,


there is a light and easy way to use google and openstreetmap.org maps
if you define them as a custom link type:


(setq org-link-abbrev-alist
 '((gmap
. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=%s;)
   (omap
 . http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search?q=%spolygon=1;)))


Wow, this is pretty cool.

- Carsten





Now
 [[gmap:Falkenstr 10, Hannover, Germany][Falkenstraße]]

and
 [[omap:Falkenstr 10, Hannover, Germany]]

show a map in your browser.  LaTeX and HTML export works out the box
with the advantage, that this export can legally be published on the
internet without any additional action (API license key).  Even on
commercial sites, as it's just a link to google.  OSM is no problem
anyway.


This way it's possible to show a certain place on earth, but not a  
track

or route.



There's a (known) bug in the LaTeX eporter:

   [[Falkenstraße 10, Hannover, Germany]]

will _not_ work, because the german Umlaut will be distorted somehow
(unless fixed already)



 Sebastian


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- Carsten




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Re: [Orgmode] Agenda Question

2010-09-23 Thread apowell656
Carsten,
Thanks for the reply. Currently that is what I do, just a little wishful 
thinking.
--Original Message--
From: Carsten Dominik
To: Andre Powell
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Agenda Question
Sent: Sep 23, 2010 2:30 AM


On Sep 22, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Andre Powell wrote:

 I hope that this is not a stupid question. Is there anyway to move  
 forward in the agenda view and have the scheduled and due items from  
 the current day move forward as well? The reason that I ask is I  
 typically try and review my next day the night before so I can print  
 it out and be ready for the morning, with Murhpy's Law (like today,  
 I was a little behind).

 Any help would be appreciated.

This is currently not possible.  But if you create a two-day view
with today and tomorrow in there, you see everything you need to see.

- Carsten



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[Orgmode] Re: Agenda Question

2010-09-23 Thread apowell656
Noorul thanks for the advice.  I currently have a block agenda with two days on 
it and for those days I do something along these lines.
--Original Message--
From: Noorul Islam K M
To: Andre Powell
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Agenda Question
Sent: Sep 23, 2010 12:56 AM

Andre Powell apowell...@gmail.com writes:

 I hope that this is not a stupid question. Is there anyway to move forward in 
 the agenda view and have the scheduled and due items from the current day 
 move forward as well? The reason that I ask is I typically try and review my 
 next day the night before so I can print it out and be ready for the morning, 
 with Murhpy's Law (like today, I was a little behind).

I am not sure whether there is any settings for this. But in my case if
I schedule a TODO item for today and if I did not mark it as DONE by
today then this will be displayed the next day also in Agenda.

Thanks and Regards
Noorul


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[Orgmode] RE: cheatsheets in emacs

2010-09-23 Thread Drew Adams
 There is this ruby utility cheat (see http://cheat.errtheblog.com/ )
 that allows one to make/use cheatsheets using ruby. The format of the
 cheatsheet is yml.
 
 I feel that it should be possible to replace ruby by emacs and the
 yaml format by org-mode
 
 Does anything like this exist?
 
 There is of course a third aspect to the ruby solution -- providing
 web-available cheatsheets (see http://cheat.errtheblog.com/b )
 This I am currently not asking for because I am only trying to track
 my own findings in a manageable way

Hi Rustom,

Maybe this helps (dunno)?
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryReferenceSheet

Or maybe you are looking for an Emacs function that _generates_ cheat sheets?
In that case, `C-h m' and `C-h b' come to mind.  Or if you want to know/print
the bindings of a particular keymap (by name), `C-h M-k' from library
help-fns+.el does that (http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/help-fns%2b.el).

FWIW - Personally, I've never seen much utility in cheat sheets for Emacs.  I
confess that I did make some for myself when I was a newbie, but I never really
bothered with them after I discovered Emacs's integrated help (`C-h m', `C-h b',
`C-h k', `C-h w', `C-h a', `M-x apropos', etc.).  No doubt the _act of making_
such a sheet manually can help one learn some keys, but beyond that I don't see
much point in them.  Just one opinion, of course.


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: A LaTeX class for Org-mode export

2010-09-23 Thread Thomas S. Dye

Aloha Srinivas,

Your settings work fine here, though I haven't installed your modified  
org-article.cls so can't say for certain whether or not your changes  
to an older version of that file have introduced the problem.


It looks to me as if the listings package is not doing its work for  
you.  Not only is color missing from the source code listings (though  
it is present elsewhere in the document), but the font size change to  
\tiny is not working either.  These are both things that the listings  
package should handle.  Is the listings package installed in your  
LaTeX setup?


All the best,
Tom

On Sep 22, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Srinivas Pavani wrote:


Tom,

For some reason, the color background for listings is not showing up.

Attached are the output pdf and the org-article.cls.

I modified the headings in your article-class.org as follows:

#+LaTeX_CLASS: org-article-subsubsection
#+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [koma,letterpaper,utopia,10pt,listings- 
sv,microtype,paralist]

#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage[AUTO]{inputenc}

I have also modified the org-article.cls to give me helvet as the  
sans-serif font for utopia setting.


Also, the value of org-latex-to-pdf-process is given below:
Its value is
(pdflatex -interaction nonstopmode %s pdflatex -interaction  
nonstopmode %s)



- Srinivas



--- On Wed, 9/22/10, Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com wrote:


From: Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Re: A LaTeX class for Org-mode export
To: Srinivas Pavani sp...@yahoo.com
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 12:31 AM
Aloha Srinivas,

Good news.

I'm not sure what you mean by close, though.  In the
LaTeX world, a
document is supposed produce the same output regardless of
the
platform or the output device.  Close is typically
not good enough.

Feel free to ask questions when they arise.

All the best,
Tom

On Sep 21, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Srinivas Pavani wrote:


Tom,

Thanks for your quick reply.

Looks like something went wrong so I reinstalled

MikTex 2.8 and

tried again. I started off with simple PDFs and slowly

built up.


I am finally able to get a pdf version that is close

to yours.


- Srinivas










article-class.pdforg-article.cls



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[Orgmode] Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Richard Moreland
Hi All,

I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to
demonstrate Org-mode.  The screencasts I've made for MobileOrg[1,2]
seem to have helped users get started quickly.  There are so many
powerful features of Org-mode that are difficult to visualize yourself
using until you can see them in action.  It may also help draw in new
users who otherwise wouldn't quite get it.

Some topics that may be interesting:

- Org-mode in action, demonstrating common tasks like capture,
restructuring a tree, refiling, etc.
- Babel
- Integration with other tools (Gnus, WL, Firefox, etc)
- Clocking/reporting
- Export capabilities
- Power user showing their streamlined configurations
- ...?

I'd like to collect all of the videos in one place, unify them with
some similar (but simple) production, with each of the videos having a
page that links to documentation, Worg, example dotfiles, comments,
etc to help the user take it further on their own.

I'd be happy to host the videos if bandwidth is a concern on the
orgmode.org site.  I've also already purchased the necessary software
to record/edit the videos.  But I'm looking to the community for ideas
on topics as well as individuals who would be willing to record the
videos or at least help me work up a script with key talking points so
I could do the recording and narration.

What do you think?  Anyone interested in helping?

Thanks,
Richard

[1] http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/screencasts/MobileOrg-Dropbox-OSX/
[2] http://ncogni.to/mobileorg/overview.mov

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Bug: subtree export fails with src block

2010-09-23 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi Christian,

Thanks for the complete bug report and reproduction information.
Unfortunately I was unable to reproduce the error you described.  Does
the file /Users/CM/org/test2.org exist on your system?  Presumably that
is the file from which you are exporting.  Is it saved before you
export?

Thanks -- Eric

I doubt the following is relevant, but...

I'm using the latest Org-mode from git.
Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h.566.gc33c)

and the latest Emacs from git
GNU Emacs 23.1.90.1

Noorul Islam K M noo...@noorul.com writes:

 Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com writes:

 Hi,

 Selecting a subtree only, export to html fails if the subtree contains
 a src block. Using 7.01trans, freshly pulled, on Emacs 23.

 Example

 file: test2.org
 ---

 * Heading 1

 Text

 * Heading 2

 Text

 #+begin_src emacs-lisp
   (message Something funny with export)
 #+end_src

 ---

 Exporting the whole works fine.

 Exporting the first subtree (C-c C-e 1 b) works, but leaves an active
 region around the subtree.

 Yes you are right. I am able to reproduce this.


 Exporting the second subtree fails, producing no output, with these
 messages:

 : Exporting...
 : org-babel-exp processing...
 : org-open-file: No such file: /Users/CM/org/test2.org::


 I am not able to reproduce this. I did not get any errors.

 I have

 Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h.555.g90cc.dirty)
 GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.12) of 2010-01-30 on 
 noorul

 Thanks and Regards
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Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Russell Adams
I love the idea of more screencasts!

 I'd be happy to host the videos if bandwidth is a concern on the
 orgmode.org site.

I'll offer up a second mirror on my site, if needed.

 I've also already purchased the necessary software
 to record/edit the videos.

What is needed? I've heard recordmydesktop works on Linux, but
hadn't used it yet.

 But I'm looking to the community for ideas on topics as well as
 individuals who would be willing to record the videos or at least
 help me work up a script with key talking points so I could do the
 recording and narration.

I'd love to participate! You can email me directly or on list.

Thanks.


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Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi Richard,

I think this is a really great idea.  I agree this could greatly raise
awareness of Org-mode and Org-mode features both for the completely
uninitiated and for the seasoned users.

We've been meaning to put together a Babel screencast, but as of yet
have not found the time or software.  Hopefully this will be the push we
need to either put together a screencast or send you a script with the
required documentation.

I've had luck hosting Emacs screencasts on vimeo in the past, it is
high-quality and easy to embed the vimeo-hosted video in other sites
(e.g. Worg).

Best -- Eric

Richard Moreland r...@ncogni.to writes:

 Hi All,

 I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to
 demonstrate Org-mode.  The screencasts I've made for MobileOrg[1,2]
 seem to have helped users get started quickly.  There are so many
 powerful features of Org-mode that are difficult to visualize yourself
 using until you can see them in action.  It may also help draw in new
 users who otherwise wouldn't quite get it.

 Some topics that may be interesting:

 - Org-mode in action, demonstrating common tasks like capture,
 restructuring a tree, refiling, etc.
 - Babel
 - Integration with other tools (Gnus, WL, Firefox, etc)
 - Clocking/reporting
 - Export capabilities
 - Power user showing their streamlined configurations
 - ...?

 I'd like to collect all of the videos in one place, unify them with
 some similar (but simple) production, with each of the videos having a
 page that links to documentation, Worg, example dotfiles, comments,
 etc to help the user take it further on their own.

 I'd be happy to host the videos if bandwidth is a concern on the
 orgmode.org site.  I've also already purchased the necessary software
 to record/edit the videos.  But I'm looking to the community for ideas
 on topics as well as individuals who would be willing to record the
 videos or at least help me work up a script with key talking points so
 I could do the recording and narration.

 What do you think?  Anyone interested in helping?

 Thanks,
 Richard

 [1] http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/screencasts/MobileOrg-Dropbox-OSX/
 [2] http://ncogni.to/mobileorg/overview.mov

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[Orgmode] *.org files showing up as exec files in Snow Leopard

2010-09-23 Thread Graham Smith
I'm not sure how important this is, but having just upgraded to Snow
Leopard, all my *.org files are now black with a green exec in the
corner and trying to open them is giving a message that they is no
application t view them and would I like to open a hex editor.

More of a Mac problem than an Orgmode one, but has anyone come across
this and know how to fix it?

Many thanks,

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[Orgmode] Re: Request for suggestions about best practices: tracking responses

2010-09-23 Thread Robert P. Goldman
On 9/22/10 Sep 22 -3:08 PM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:
 Hi Robert,
 
 Robert Goldman wrote:
 Often now I have org-mode tasks that I move to WAIT status when I send
 someone an email to get some next step done.
 
 I do that as well. Though, I'm still testing what my own process must be like.
 
 
 The problem is that I have a hard time getting back to those tasks when
 I get a response email (or phone call).

 There is nothing salient about these that means that when I get a
 response email, I see the task and can mark it as completed.

 Does anyone have a good solution for this?

 I have a hazy idea that always having a special agenda window open with
 a special agenda display of tasks awaiting responses might do the trick,
 but few ideas about how to accomplish this in practice.  Presumably a
 special TODO status for awaiting response, and special agenda view...
 does that sound reasonable?  I notice that the manual refers to THE
 agenda.  Is it possible to have multiple agenda windows so that I could
 always have the waiting for response agenda up w/o cutting off my
 access to other views?
 
 As far as I fully understand your request, what you need is a custom agenda
 report:
 
 --8---cut here---start-8---
 #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
 (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
   '((W Waiting
  todo WAIT nil)))
 #+END_SRC
 --8---cut here---end---8---

I know how to make a custom agenda for this; the problem is more how to
have that custom agenda always open for me to glance at.  I don't want
to have to call up this agenda every time I get an email or a phone call
to decide whether a waiting task is unwaiting...

Should one open an org agenda buffer, and then rename it, so that
following org-agenda commands don't wipe it?

thanks,
r


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Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Erik Iverson

Richard,

First of all, your MobileOrg screencasts are very nice.
In my opinion, keeping things high-level and showing
the major features are what is important.  In a way,
they are commercials for the product, and I think the
best way to entice people into trying the product is to
make them say Wow when viewing the video.

I would be happy to help but would need to know the
software requirements.  Is it easy to make these under
Linux?

Richard Moreland wrote:

Hi All,

I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to
demonstrate Org-mode.  The screencasts I've made for MobileOrg[1,2]
seem to have helped users get started quickly.  There are so many
powerful features of Org-mode that are difficult to visualize yourself
using until you can see them in action.  It may also help draw in new
users who otherwise wouldn't quite get it.

Some topics that may be interesting:

- Org-mode in action, demonstrating common tasks like capture,
restructuring a tree, refiling, etc.
- Babel
- Integration with other tools (Gnus, WL, Firefox, etc)
- Clocking/reporting
- Export capabilities
- Power user showing their streamlined configurations
- ...?

I'd like to collect all of the videos in one place, unify them with
some similar (but simple) production, with each of the videos having a
page that links to documentation, Worg, example dotfiles, comments,
etc to help the user take it further on their own.

I'd be happy to host the videos if bandwidth is a concern on the
orgmode.org site.  I've also already purchased the necessary software
to record/edit the videos.  But I'm looking to the community for ideas
on topics as well as individuals who would be willing to record the
videos or at least help me work up a script with key talking points so
I could do the recording and narration.

What do you think?  Anyone interested in helping?

Thanks,
Richard

[1] http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/screencasts/MobileOrg-Dropbox-OSX/
[2] http://ncogni.to/mobileorg/overview.mov

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Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Richard Moreland
I've just installed and tested recordmydesktop (based on Russell's
recommendation) on my Linux system and it seems to work great.  It
produces .ogv video files, which will need to be run through ffmpeg or
mencode first to be compatible with Vimeo.

On my Mac, I used Telestream's ScreenFlow, which has a great set of
editing tools built in.

I'd like to create a Worg page that will list:

- A link to each screencast
  Each screencast page ideally would contain:
  - Embedded video
  - Links to relevent documentation
  - Material referenced from the video (links to other packages, etc.)
  - Sample configuration files needed to achieve the results of the video
- Subject ideas
- Tools needed to record your own, where to upload them, etc.

I hope once we get one or two in there, it'll be easy for anyone else
who wants to contribute to follow suit.

I like the idea of using Vimeo since we may get new users who search
for emacs on that site.

So.. who wants to go first? :)  (Or if you don't want to do the
recording yourself, I'd be happy to work with you to come up with some
basic script for me to follow).

-Richard

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu wrote:
 Richard,

 First of all, your MobileOrg screencasts are very nice.
 In my opinion, keeping things high-level and showing
 the major features are what is important.  In a way,
 they are commercials for the product, and I think the
 best way to entice people into trying the product is to
 make them say Wow when viewing the video.

 I would be happy to help but would need to know the
 software requirements.  Is it easy to make these under
 Linux?

 Richard Moreland wrote:

 Hi All,

 I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to
 demonstrate Org-mode.  The screencasts I've made for MobileOrg[1,2]
 seem to have helped users get started quickly.  There are so many
 powerful features of Org-mode that are difficult to visualize yourself
 using until you can see them in action.  It may also help draw in new
 users who otherwise wouldn't quite get it.

 Some topics that may be interesting:

 - Org-mode in action, demonstrating common tasks like capture,
 restructuring a tree, refiling, etc.
 - Babel
 - Integration with other tools (Gnus, WL, Firefox, etc)
 - Clocking/reporting
 - Export capabilities
 - Power user showing their streamlined configurations
 - ...?

 I'd like to collect all of the videos in one place, unify them with
 some similar (but simple) production, with each of the videos having a
 page that links to documentation, Worg, example dotfiles, comments,
 etc to help the user take it further on their own.

 I'd be happy to host the videos if bandwidth is a concern on the
 orgmode.org site.  I've also already purchased the necessary software
 to record/edit the videos.  But I'm looking to the community for ideas
 on topics as well as individuals who would be willing to record the
 videos or at least help me work up a script with key talking points so
 I could do the recording and narration.

 What do you think?  Anyone interested in helping?

 Thanks,
 Richard

 [1] http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/screencasts/MobileOrg-Dropbox-OSX/
 [2] http://ncogni.to/mobileorg/overview.mov

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Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread John Hendy
Maybe some help can be found here re. software?

- Big list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screencasting_software
- A bit dated, but pretty cool overview of some Linux methods:
http://www.linuxhaxor.net/?p=815
- Krut looks simple enough and has some neat features:
http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Productivity-Sauce-Dmitri-s-open-source-blend-of-productive-computing/Krut-screencasts-made-easy
- This is recent and looks simple:
http://verb3k.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/how-to-do-proper-screencasts-on-linux/

I've never done this and so cannot really recommend anything in particular
from the wiki list... I did just try the last method (ffmpeg) and it worked
great. I don't have pulse audio at the moment, but tailoring their command
to this worked for me:

---
ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 2 -f x11grab -r 30 -s 1024x768 -i :0.0 -acodec pcm_s16le
-vcodec libx264 -vpre lossless_ultrafast -threads 0 output.mkv
---

Hope that helps even slightly... I didn't want to fiddle with the actual
applications right now, but I'm thinking that the ones with a spotlight
for the cursor and ability to zoom in could prove to be quite the nice
touch.

Perhaps we should put together screencast wish list somewhere? Then
perhaps individuals could sign up to work on them?

I think LaTeX integration would be a huge sell. I know a guy at work who
uses LaTeX for reports but has never heard of Org-mode. I, on the other
hand, only know about LaTeX because I found out about Org-mode. The more
I've learned how to use LaTeX, the more when he talks about things I can't
believe he's typing out all those lines for his reports! Showing how
Org-mode can take what you already know and make it that much easier and
faster to get work done would be neat, IMO.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screencasting_softwareJohn

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Richard,

 I think this is a really great idea.  I agree this could greatly raise
 awareness of Org-mode and Org-mode features both for the completely
 uninitiated and for the seasoned users.

 We've been meaning to put together a Babel screencast, but as of yet
 have not found the time or software.  Hopefully this will be the push we
 need to either put together a screencast or send you a script with the
 required documentation.

 I've had luck hosting Emacs screencasts on vimeo in the past, it is
 high-quality and easy to embed the vimeo-hosted video in other sites
 (e.g. Worg).

 Best -- Eric

 Richard Moreland r...@ncogni.to writes:

  Hi All,
 
  I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to
  demonstrate Org-mode.  The screencasts I've made for MobileOrg[1,2]
  seem to have helped users get started quickly.  There are so many
  powerful features of Org-mode that are difficult to visualize yourself
  using until you can see them in action.  It may also help draw in new
  users who otherwise wouldn't quite get it.
 
  Some topics that may be interesting:
 
  - Org-mode in action, demonstrating common tasks like capture,
  restructuring a tree, refiling, etc.
  - Babel
  - Integration with other tools (Gnus, WL, Firefox, etc)
  - Clocking/reporting
  - Export capabilities
  - Power user showing their streamlined configurations
  - ...?
 
  I'd like to collect all of the videos in one place, unify them with
  some similar (but simple) production, with each of the videos having a
  page that links to documentation, Worg, example dotfiles, comments,
  etc to help the user take it further on their own.
 
  I'd be happy to host the videos if bandwidth is a concern on the
  orgmode.org site.  I've also already purchased the necessary software
  to record/edit the videos.  But I'm looking to the community for ideas
  on topics as well as individuals who would be willing to record the
  videos or at least help me work up a script with key talking points so
  I could do the recording and narration.
 
  What do you think?  Anyone interested in helping?
 
  Thanks,
  Richard
 
  [1] http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/screencasts/MobileOrg-Dropbox-OSX/
  [2] http://ncogni.to/mobileorg/overview.mov
 
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[Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Rustom Mody
mwe-log-commands may be particularly useful for an emacs related screencast
http://www.foldr.org/~michaelw/emacs/mwe-log-commands.el

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Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Bastien
Richard Moreland r...@ncogni.to writes:

 I've just installed and tested recordmydesktop (based on Russell's
 recommendation) on my Linux system and it seems to work great.

I can confirm this -- recordmydesktop is the tool I use regularily for
screencasts. 

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[Orgmode] Re: *.org files showing up as exec files in Snow Leopard

2010-09-23 Thread Erik L. Arneson
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Graham Smith wrote:
 I'm not sure how important this is, but having just upgraded to Snow
 Leopard, all my *.org files are now black with a green exec in the
 corner and trying to open them is giving a message that they is no
 application t view them and would I like to open a hex editor.

 More of a Mac problem than an Orgmode one, but has anyone come across
 this and know how to fix it?

Do they have their executable bits set?  What does 'file' report?

Also, try looking at the files in Finder.  Right click (or Cmd-I) on an
.org file and make sure everything there looks correct.  You can even
tell it which application to open that particular file with (the Open
with dialog).

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [bug] Gnus author in capture templates not working

2010-09-23 Thread David Maus
Bastien wrote:
David Maus dm...@ictsoc.de writes:

 I've started to implement the :date property for the other mailers and
 thought about:

  - date :: literal content of the date header field
  - date-timestamp :: active timestamp for the date header field
  - date-timestamp-ia :: inactive timestamp for the date header field

That'd be good indeed, thanks.

I personnaly prefer explicit names like date-timestamp-inactive,
as it only goes in people's config files.

Okay, just pushed the changes.  The properties for the date header
field are now %:date, %:date-timestamp, and %:date-timestamp-inactive
and are supplied by all mail link handlers.

Tested with all but vm which I have some trouble to configure
correctly.

While working on org-gnus I noticed a small inconsistency: All mail
link handlers return the full message id (i.e. with enclosing angle
brackets) in the %:message-id property, but org-gnus does return the
message id without the angle brackets.

I am not sure about the implications of a fix for this and providing
the mid w/o angle brackets in a property %:message-id-no-brackets (as
org-wl does).

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: *.org files showing up as exec files in Snow Leopard

2010-09-23 Thread Juan
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:56:43AM -0600, Erik L. Arneson wrote:
 On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Graham Smith wrote:
  I'm not sure how important this is, but having just upgraded to Snow
  Leopard, all my *.org files are now black with a green exec in the
  corner and trying to open them is giving a message that they is no
  application t view them and would I like to open a hex editor.
 
  More of a Mac problem than an Orgmode one, but has anyone come across
  this and know how to fix it?

 Do they have their executable bits set?  What does 'file' report?

 Also, try looking at the files in Finder.  Right click (or Cmd-I) on an
 .org file and make sure everything there looks correct.  You can even
 tell it which application to open that particular file with (the Open
 with dialog).

Also via Cmd-I you can associate an application to your .org files.
This is done in the Open with section. But first check those exec
bits.

In my case, opening an org file from finder opens a new frame in Emacs
with the file.

.j.

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Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Sebastian Rose
Hi Richard,


great idea.

There are some screencasts around that could serve as a basis.  I'd
gladly rework my two little screencasts about org-protocol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7Z2PiAcgh8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2xjwxEj-c8

I used Wink[1] to create those screnncasts.  But I guess it's not what
we should use (flash)?


To make all screencasts look the same, we would need to make them all on
the same system.  That's a problem.
For simple movies, just inside emacs, we could write an elisp file for
you to execute.  But as soon as other applications are involved, we'll
have a problem to solve.



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Bug: subtree export fails with src block

2010-09-23 Thread Christian Moe

Hi, Eric,

Yes, the file is saved, and is the one I'm trying to export from.

If neither you nor Noorul can reproduce it, I may have messed up 
something. But I can't think what.


It looks like the problem arises in this part of org-babel-exp-src-blocks

   (link (org-make-link-string
  (concat
   org-current-export-file
   ::
   (nth 4 (ignore-errors (org-heading-components))

and that org-heading-components fails to return the heading text. 
Can't see why, though.


Yours,
Christian


On 9/23/10 5:17 PM, Eric Schulte wrote:

Hi Christian,

Thanks for the complete bug report and reproduction information.
Unfortunately I was unable to reproduce the error you described.  Does
the file /Users/CM/org/test2.org exist on your system?  Presumably that
is the file from which you are exporting.  Is it saved before you
export?

Thanks -- Eric

I doubt the following is relevant, but...

I'm using the latest Org-mode from git.
Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h.566.gc33c)

and the latest Emacs from git
GNU Emacs 23.1.90.1

Noorul Islam K Mnoo...@noorul.com  writes:


Christian Moem...@christianmoe.com  writes:


Hi,

Selecting a subtree only, export to html fails if the subtree contains
a src block. Using 7.01trans, freshly pulled, on Emacs 23.

Example

file: test2.org
---

* Heading 1

Text

* Heading 2

Text

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
   (message Something funny with export)
#+end_src

---

Exporting the whole works fine.

Exporting the first subtree (C-c C-e 1 b) works, but leaves an active
region around the subtree.


Yes you are right. I am able to reproduce this.



Exporting the second subtree fails, producing no output, with these
messages:

: Exporting...
: org-babel-exp processing...
: org-open-file: No such file: /Users/CM/org/test2.org::



I am not able to reproduce this. I did not get any errors.

I have

Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h.555.g90cc.dirty)
GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.12) of 2010-01-30 on 
noorul

Thanks and Regards
Noorul


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Re: [Orgmode] [bug] org-link-escape and (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)

2010-09-23 Thread David Maus
Sebastian Rose wrote:
David Maus dm...@ictsoc.de writes:
 Sebastian Rose wrote:
Is there a reason for this distinction between multibyte and unibyte?
I favour the shotgun-approach if not.  It's bullet-proof.

The JavaScript function `encodeURIComponent()' encodes the German Umlaut
`ü' as `%C3%B6' regardless of the sources encoding actually.  That's why
I wrote the two functions `org-protocol-unhex-string' and
`org-protocol-unhex-compound' (s. org-protocol.el).

 Ah, yes.  From my understandig of the RFC %C3%BC is a valid
 representation of the ü character.  

 I do not yet fully understand
 how to unescape such a representation.  E.g. Is %C3%BC a hexencoded
 multibyte char or a succession of two singlebyte chars?

It's a hexencoded multibyte char.

JavaScript implementations seem to turn non-ascii singlebyte chars
into multibyte chars first, then encode the result.

This means if a page is iso-8859-1 encoded (singlebyte `ü'),
JavaScript will recode the `ü'.  It's funny, but that's what I found
when writing org-protocol.el


`org-protocol-unhex-string' and `org-protocol-unhex-compound' decode
such a representation.

The trick is in the utf-8 encoding itself.  If a byte starts with a 1,
another byte will follow.  The number of leading `1's denotes the amount
of bytes used for one character.   On a GNU/Linux system try

  sh$  man utf-8

Thanks!  I finally get a grip on one of my personal nightmares.  The
attached patch is the first step in this direction: It modifies the
algorithm of `org-link-escape', now iterating over the input string
with `mapconcat' and escaping all characters in the escape table or
are between 127 and 255.

I'll try to figure out the escaping/unescaping of multibyte characters
next.

Sent as a patch because of it's possible side-effects: The new
algorithm ignores the cdr of the escape table cons -- Thus things will
break if they use this function for anything else then percent
escaping.

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From 8209cb831d0d387d03b10416235d2910a74f80f7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: David Maus dm...@ictsoc.de
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:30:13 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] New algorithm for percent escaping

* org.el (org-link-escape): New algorithm for percent escaping.

Interate over TEXT and replace chars that are in TABLE or are
non-ASCII single byte characters.  Multibyte characters are left
untouched.
---
 lisp/org.el |   16 +---
 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index d7aa3d2..2c3f1b7 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -8491,17 +8491,11 @@ This is the list that is used before handing over to 
the browser.)
   (if (and org-url-encoding-use-url-hexify (not table))
   (url-hexify-string text)
 (setq table (or table org-link-escape-chars))
-(when text
-  (let ((re (mapconcat (lambda (x) (regexp-quote
-   (char-to-string (car x
-  table \\|)))
-   (while (string-match re text)
- (setq text
-   (replace-match
-(cdr (assoc (string-to-char (match-string 0 text))
-table))
-  t t text)))
-   text
+(mapconcat (lambda (c)
+(if (or (assoc c table)
+(and ( c 126) ( c 255)))
+(format %%%X c)
+  (char-to-string c))) text )))
 
 (defun org-link-unescape (text optional table)
   Reverse the action of `org-link-escape'.
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Request for suggestions about best practices: tracking responses

2010-09-23 Thread David Maus
Robert P. Goldman wrote:

I know how to make a custom agenda for this; the problem is more how to
have that custom agenda always open for me to glance at.  I don't want
to have to call up this agenda every time I get an email or a phone call
to decide whether a waiting task is unwaiting...

Should one open an org agenda buffer, and then rename it, so that
following org-agenda commands don't wipe it?

This works... Somehow.  The buffer is not wiped, but for example
refreshing the list of items will open a new *Agenda* buffer.

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[Orgmode] Re: [bug] Gnus author in capture templates not working

2010-09-23 Thread Sébastien Vauban
Hi David,

David Maus wrote:
 Bastien wrote:
 David Maus dm...@ictsoc.de writes:
 I've started to implement the :date property for the other mailers and
 thought about:

  - date :: literal content of the date header field
  - date-timestamp :: active timestamp for the date header field
  - date-timestamp-ia :: inactive timestamp for the date header field

 Okay, just pushed the changes. The properties for the date header field are
 now %:date, %:date-timestamp, and %:date-timestamp-inactive and are supplied
 by all mail link handlers.

I'm sorry, but when putting this in music, I realize this is (maybe) not
enough. Just consider a typical test case:

--8---cut here---start-8---
  (setq org-capture-templates
`((m Mail entry
   (file+headline ~/Personal/refile.org Tasks)
   * TODO %:subject%? (from %:fromname) :mail:
   :PROPERTIES:
   :Created: %:date-timestamp-inactive
   :END:
   SCHEDULED: %:date-timestamp

%i

From %a
   :empty-lines 1 :immediate-finish)))
--8---cut here---end---8---

I now have a full timestamp (date and time) for when the mail has been sent
(or received?). That's really great.

Though, for the scheduling part, I don't need a full timestamp: I just want to
specify when (which day) I intend to work on it, and reply to it. There, it'd
be cool to have a timestamp with only date and day of the week (no time).

Does this make sense?

Best regards,
  Seb

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Request for suggestions about best practices: tracking responses

2010-09-23 Thread Robert Goldman
On 9/23/10 Sep 23 -1:44 PM, David Maus wrote:
 Robert P. Goldman wrote:
 
 I know how to make a custom agenda for this; the problem is more how to
 have that custom agenda always open for me to glance at.  I don't want
 to have to call up this agenda every time I get an email or a phone call
 to decide whether a waiting task is unwaiting...
 
 Should one open an org agenda buffer, and then rename it, so that
 following org-agenda commands don't wipe it?
 
 This works... Somehow.  The buffer is not wiped, but for example
 refreshing the list of items will open a new *Agenda* buffer.

I think one MIGHT be able to work around this by exploiting the dynamic
binding of emacs-lisp variables and doing something like

(let ((org-agenda-buffer-name *Waiting-for-response*))
  (org-agenda-redo))

pretty evil, but

Best,
r


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Re: [Orgmode] [BUG] Org-capture breaks if captured-to file is open in a narrowed buffer

2010-09-23 Thread David Maus
David Maus wrote:
Jules Bean wrote:
If I run org-capture with the template:

(t Todo entry (file+headline
/Users/jules/work/TODO.org Tasks) * TODO %?
  (Captured at %u)
  %i
  %a
)

whilst I have narrowed (using, e.g., org-narrow-to-subtree) the buffer
that contains TODO.org, a new * Tasks headline is inserted at the
end of my narrowing and the new entry is added there, which messes up
the hierarchy of the file.

I can confirm this with

Org-mode version 7.01trans (release_7.01h.497.g59fa)

GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.0)
 of 2010-08-14 on raven, modified by Debian

Attached should fix this problem.

Best,
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:04:10 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Widen to remove possible restrictions in target buffer

* org-capture.el (org-capture-place-template): Widen to remove
possible restrictions in target buffer.

Jules Bean wrote:
If I run org-capture with the template:

(t Todo entry (file+headline
/Users/jules/work/TODO.org Tasks) * TODO %?
  (Captured at %u)
  %i
  %a
)

whilst I have narrowed (using, e.g., org-narrow-to-subtree) the buffer
that contains TODO.org, a new * Tasks headline is inserted at the
end of my narrowing and the new entry is added there, which messes up
the hierarchy of the file.
---
 lisp/org-capture.el |1 +
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/org-capture.el b/lisp/org-capture.el
index a3d40f0..44face1 100644
--- a/lisp/org-capture.el
+++ b/lisp/org-capture.el
@@ -681,6 +681,7 @@ already gone.
   (delete-other-windows)
   (org-switch-to-buffer-other-window
(org-capture-get-indirect-buffer (org-capture-get :buffer) CAPTURE))
+  (widen)
   (show-all)
   (goto-char (org-capture-get :pos))
   (org-set-local 'org-capture-target-marker
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Re: [Orgmode] Two bugs in org-indent (plus a fix to correct one of them)

2010-09-23 Thread David Maus
William Henney wrote:
Hi all

I have recently started using org-indent (together with word-wrap) for
new org files. In general, I love it. But there are a couple of small
problems:


2. org-indent fails to play nicely with org-inlinetask in two ways

   i) It destroys the special fontification of the inline task's
leading stars, even if org-indent-mode-turns-on-hiding-stars is set to
nil

   ii) Any text after an inline task's END statement is soft-indented
as though it were part of the inline task, whereas the indentation
should ideally return to what it was before the inline task. Of
course, this is also a problem when org-indent is turned off, if you
try to automatically hard-indent using TAB. However, in that case you
can adjust by hand the indentation of the first line after the inline
task, and then all the following lines will indent correctly. With
org-indent the problem is much worse since there is no way of
adjusting the soft indents by hand.

Not a fix yet, but kind of a bump.  Having the text below an
inline-task wrongly indented makes inline-tasks completely unusable
with `org-indent-mode' turned on.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [bug] Gnus author in capture templates not working

2010-09-23 Thread Bastien
Hi Sebastian,

Sébastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes:

 Though, for the scheduling part, I don't need a full timestamp: I just want to
 specify when (which day) I intend to work on it, and reply to it. There, it'd
 be cool to have a timestamp with only date and day of the week (no time).

 Does this make sense?

Mh...  I'm not sure. :)

Why don't you use a SCHEDULED: %t in this case?  You'd still have to
manually schedule the task correctly, of course.

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[Orgmode] Re: Yet another way to use maps --- the light way

2010-09-23 Thread Memnon Anon
Hi,

Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:

 there is a light and easy way to use google and openstreetmap.org maps
 if you define them as a custom link type:

 (setq org-link-abbrev-alist
   '((gmap
  . http://maps.google.com/maps?q=%s;)
 (omap
   . http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search?q=%spolygon=1;)))

 Now
   [[gmap:Falkenstr 10, Hannover, Germany][Falkenstraße]]

 and
   [[omap:Falkenstr 10, Hannover, Germany]]
[...]

This works fine for viewing in an external browser like conkeror or ff,
but fails for me in emacs w3m.

Memnon



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [BABEL] Speed keys

2010-09-23 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi Jambunathan,

I've finally had a chance to test out this patch, and it's great!  I'd
love to apply this to the core Org repository, however given the size I
have to ask, have you (or are you willing to) signed the FSF papers?

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.php

Cheers -- Eric

Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:

 Is it possible Speed Keys (Refer Org Manual - Sec. 15.3) for Babel
 blocks?

 Attached patch extends the speed key functionality.

 Usage notes:

 After applying the patch, use variant-1 or variant-2 to enable speed
 keys within a babel block.

 variant-1:

   (defun org-babel-speed-command-hook (keys)
 (when (org-babel-where-is-src-block-head)
   (cdr (assoc keys org-babel-key-bindings

 variant-2:

   (defun org-babel-speed-command-hook (keys)
 (when (and (bolp) (looking-at org-babel-src-block-regexp))
   (cdr (assoc keys org-babel-key-bindings

   (add-hook 'org-speed-command-hook 'org-babel-speed-command-hook 'append)


 Use this hook with caution.

   (defun org-speed-command-catch-all-hook (keys)
 'ignore)

   (add-hook 'org-speed-command-hook 'org-babel-speed-command-hook 'append)

 Jambunathan K.


 From 2fca952e923d44bec554b8b4e7dafc355e068f32 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
 From: Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 04:01:16 +0530
 Subject: [PATCH 2/2] Support for user-extensible speed commands.

 * lisp/org.el (org-speed-command-hook): New. Hook for installing
 additional speed commands. Use this for enabling speed commands on
 src blocks.
 (org-speed-command-default-hook): The default hook for
 org-speed-command-hook. Factored out from org-self-insert-command
 and mimics existing behaviour.
 (org-self-insert-command): Modified to use org-speed-command-hook.

 TINYCHANGE.
 ---
  lisp/org.el |   38 +++---
  1 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)

 diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
 index 09281cc..ead91a3 100644
 --- a/lisp/org.el
 +++ b/lisp/org.el
 @@ -16494,6 +16494,34 @@ If not, return to the original position and throw an 
 error.
  
  (defvar org-table-auto-blank-field) ; defined in org-table.el
  (defvar org-speed-command nil)
 +
 +(defun org-speed-command-default-hook (keys)
 +  Hook for activating single-letter speed commands.
 +`org-speed-commands-default' specifies a minimal command set. Use
 +`org-speed-commands-user' for further customization.
 +  (when (or (and (bolp) (looking-at outline-regexp))
 + (and (functionp org-use-speed-commands)
 +  (funcall org-use-speed-commands)))
 +(cdr (assoc keys (append org-speed-commands-user
 +  org-speed-commands-default)
 +
 +(defcustom org-speed-command-hook 'org-speed-command-default-hook
 +  Hook for activating speed commands at strategic locations.
 +Hook functions are called in sequence until a valid handler is
 +found.
 +
 +Each hook takes a single argument, a user-pressed command key
 +which is also a `self-insert-command' from the global map.
 +
 +Within the hook, examine the cursor position and the command key
 +and return nil or a valid handler as appropriate. Handler could
 +be one of an interactive command, a function, or a form.
 +
 +Set `org-use-speed-commands' to non-nil value to enable this
 +hook. The default setting is `org-speed-command-default-hook'.
 +  :group 'org-structure
 +  :type 'hook)
 +
  (defun org-self-insert-command (N)
Like `self-insert-command', use overwrite-mode for whitespace in tables.
  If the cursor is in a table looking at whitespace, the whitespace is
 @@ -16501,13 +16529,9 @@ overwritten, and the table is not marked as 
 requiring realignment.
(interactive p)
(cond
 ((and org-use-speed-commands
 -  (or (and (bolp) (looking-at outline-regexp))
 -  (and (functionp org-use-speed-commands)
 -   (funcall org-use-speed-commands)))
 -  (setq
 -   org-speed-command
 -   (or (cdr (assoc (this-command-keys) org-speed-commands-user))
 -   (cdr (assoc (this-command-keys) org-speed-commands-default)
 +  (setq org-speed-command
 +(run-hook-with-args-until-success
 + 'org-speed-command-hook (this-command-keys
  (cond
   ((commandp org-speed-command)
(setq this-command org-speed-command)

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Re: [Orgmode] [bug] org-link-escape and (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)

2010-09-23 Thread Sebastian Rose
David Maus dm...@ictsoc.de writes:
  sh$  man utf-8

 Thanks!  I finally get a grip on one of my personal nightmares.


It's not that bad, is it? :D


 The
 attached patch is the first step in this direction: It modifies the
 algorithm of `org-link-escape', now iterating over the input string
 with `mapconcat' and escaping all characters in the escape table or
 are between 127 and 255.


Between 128 (1000 ) and 255 ??

The binary representation of 127 is 0111  and valid ascii char. DEL
actually (sh$ man ascii)

;)



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Yet another way to use maps --- the light way

2010-09-23 Thread Sebastian Rose
Memnon Anon gegendosenflei...@googlemail.com writes:
 Hi,

 Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:

 there is a light and easy way to use google and openstreetmap.org maps
 if you define them as a custom link type:

 (setq org-link-abbrev-alist
   '((gmap
  . http://maps.google.com/maps?q=%s;)
 (omap
   . http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search?q=%spolygon=1;)))

 Now
   [[gmap:Falkenstr 10, Hannover, Germany][Falkenstraße]]

 and
   [[omap:Falkenstr 10, Hannover, Germany]]
 [...]

 This works fine for viewing in an external browser like conkeror or ff,
 but fails for me in emacs w3m.

 Memnon


Yes.  For this to work, you'd to do something like this (untested):


(defun org-follow-gmap-link (path)
  Follow a google-map link when clicked.
  (browse-url-mozilla
   (concat http://maps.google.com/maps?q=; path)))

(org-add-link-type gmap 'org-follow-gmap-link nil)


(defun org-follow-omap-link (path)
  Follow a osm-map link when clicked.
  (browse-url-mozilla
   (concat
http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search?q=;
path polygon=1)))

(org-add-link-type omap 'org-follow-omap-link nil)




HTH

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[Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Charles Cave
 Richard Moreland rlm at ncogni.to writes: 
 I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to
 demonstrate Org-mode.  

Great idea!  I would he happy to record a couple of screencasts
based on tutorials I have written. Currently I am preparing
a tutorial on date trees and capturing notes to a journal.

I am a Windows user and a screencast tool I use is
http://www.screenr.com - from Articulate.
This allows screencasts up to 5 minutes to be recorded
then hosted on their website.

Charles







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[Orgmode] wrap sourcecode?

2010-09-23 Thread Matt Price
This may be an odd request, but is it possible to wrap sourcecode blocks?
attached is the org source for the following page, rendered by wordpress
using html generated by org2blog:
http://www.hackinghistory.ca/lab-01-understanding-html/
You can see that without wrapping, the source goes right off of the page.
Is there anything I can do to fix that? Do I need to define the src and
example classes in css somewhere, in order to get horizontal sliders?  Or
can I set an option in the html export that will make this easier for me?

Thanks as always,
Matt


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Re: [Orgmode] wrap sourcecode?

2010-09-23 Thread Erik Iverson

On 09/23/2010 07:11 PM, Matt Price wrote:

This may be an odd request, but is it possible to wrap sourcecode
blocks?  attached is the org source for the following page, rendered by
wordpress using html generated by org2blog:
http://www.hackinghistory.ca/lab-01-understanding-html/
You can see that without wrapping, the source goes right off of the
page.  Is there anything I can do to fix that? Do I need to define the
src and example classes in css somewhere, in order to get horizontal
sliders?  Or can I set an option in the html export that will make this
easier for me?


You can see from the generated HTML that those classes have already
been assigned

pre class=src src-html

so you just need to provide the appropriate style.  There are several
ways to accomplish that, see CSS Support in the manual if memory
serves.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Richard Moreland
I jumped the gun a bit and decided to put together a video showing the very 
basics.  It seems overly simple when I re-watch it, but I think it is helpful 
for those who are unsure how to get started with the basics of Org-mode.

http://ncogni.to/org-screencasts/1-basics/

Feedback is welcome, these were the least exciting topics to cover, but I 
wasn't sure how to really wow new users without overwhelming them.  I figured 
that taking it step by step with short, clear episodes covering special topics 
would be a good start.

-Richard

On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Charles Cave wrote:

 Richard Moreland rlm at ncogni.to writes: 
 I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to
 demonstrate Org-mode.  
 
 Great idea!  I would he happy to record a couple of screencasts
 based on tutorials I have written. Currently I am preparing
 a tutorial on date trees and capturing notes to a journal.
 
 I am a Windows user and a screencast tool I use is
 http://www.screenr.com - from Articulate.
 This allows screencasts up to 5 minutes to be recorded
 then hosted on their website.
 
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Re: [Orgmode] bug with spaces in regexp search

2010-09-23 Thread Samuel Wales
Thanks, Carsten.  :)

On 2010-09-22, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:36 PM, Samuel Wales wrote:

 With the headline * text search much faster than tag search

 Is that so?

Yes, by an order of magnitude.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Erik Iverson

On 09/23/2010 07:45 PM, Richard Moreland wrote:

I jumped the gun a bit and decided to put together a video showing the very 
basics.  It seems overly simple when I re-watch it, but I think it is helpful 
for those who are unsure how to get started with the basics of Org-mode.

http://ncogni.to/org-screencasts/1-basics/

Feedback is welcome, these were the least exciting topics to cover, but I 
wasn't sure how to really wow new users without overwhelming them.  I figured 
that taking it step by step with short, clear episodes covering special topics 
would be a good start.



One more thought, if it's easy to edit the screencast, throw in a bit about
headline folding.  Just show how easy it is to collapse and expand the
different headlines.


-Richard

On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Charles Cave wrote:


Richard Morelandrlmat  ncogni.to  writes:
I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to
demonstrate Org-mode.


Great idea!  I would he happy to record a couple of screencasts
based on tutorials I have written. Currently I am preparing
a tutorial on date trees and capturing notes to a journal.

I am a Windows user and a screencast tool I use is
http://www.screenr.com - from Articulate.
This allows screencasts up to 5 minutes to be recorded
then hosted on their website.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Erik Iverson

On 09/23/2010 07:45 PM, Richard Moreland wrote:

I jumped the gun a bit and decided to put together a video showing the very 
basics.  It seems overly simple when I re-watch it, but I think it is helpful 
for those who are unsure how to get started with the basics of Org-mode.

http://ncogni.to/org-screencasts/1-basics/

Feedback is welcome, these were the least exciting topics to cover, but I 
wasn't sure how to really wow new users without overwhelming them.  I figured 
that taking it step by step with short, clear episodes covering special topics 
would be a good start.



Really nice, agree that the intro is the least exciting.

But even starting with agendas in the next one, the more interesting things
can be shown.

Great job!

So with the software you use, you can go and insert/delete/edit voice into the
presentation once it's complete, or if you want to change the wording in one
part, do you have to record the whole thing over again?  I assume you can change
it, but don't know if the Linux tool has that capability.


-Richard

On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Charles Cave wrote:


Richard Morelandrlmat  ncogni.to  writes:
I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to
demonstrate Org-mode.


Great idea!  I would he happy to record a couple of screencasts
based on tutorials I have written. Currently I am preparing
a tutorial on date trees and capturing notes to a journal.

I am a Windows user and a screencast tool I use is
http://www.screenr.com - from Articulate.
This allows screencasts up to 5 minutes to be recorded
then hosted on their website.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread John Hendy
Wow, Richard. That was sweet. You even have a pleasing screencaster's
voice.

My only thought was along the lines of what one should assume about org-mode
viewers. Familiarity with emacs? No knowledge of emacs? I only got into
emacs because I found org-mode, so my only thought there is that I might not
even have known what meta was... I can't recall, but did you clarify meta
= alt on Win/Linux and Command on Mac?

Stuff like that might be helpful. Obviously these won't all be done on a Mac
and some unfamiliar with it might wonder what the Command and carat symbols
are on their own keyboards?

As Erik said -- folding and perhaps adjusting in and out (meta +
left/right). Also, it seems that only the meta or control functions show up
as keystrokes. For example, I thought you said M-n s and M-n w to narrow
on the tree and then widen the view but I only ever saw one part of that
flash on the screen.

Great, great job. Loved it and think this is exactly what Org could use. I
have a co-worker who just got emacs and org-mode up on his computer and
would love to have something this simple and clear-cut.


Great work, again.
John

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu wrote:

 On 09/23/2010 07:45 PM, Richard Moreland wrote:

 I jumped the gun a bit and decided to put together a video showing the
 very basics.  It seems overly simple when I re-watch it, but I think it is
 helpful for those who are unsure how to get started with the basics of
 Org-mode.

 http://ncogni.to/org-screencasts/1-basics/

 Feedback is welcome, these were the least exciting topics to cover, but I
 wasn't sure how to really wow new users without overwhelming them.  I
 figured that taking it step by step with short, clear episodes covering
 special topics would be a good start.


 Really nice, agree that the intro is the least exciting.

 But even starting with agendas in the next one, the more interesting things
 can be shown.

 Great job!

 So with the software you use, you can go and insert/delete/edit voice into
 the
 presentation once it's complete, or if you want to change the wording in
 one
 part, do you have to record the whole thing over again?  I assume you can
 change
 it, but don't know if the Linux tool has that capability.


  -Richard

 On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Charles Cave wrote:

  Richard Morelandrlmat  ncogni.to  writes:
 I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to
 demonstrate Org-mode.


 Great idea!  I would he happy to record a couple of screencasts
 based on tutorials I have written. Currently I am preparing
 a tutorial on date trees and capturing notes to a journal.

 I am a Windows user and a screencast tool I use is
 http://www.screenr.com - from Articulate.
 This allows screencasts up to 5 minutes to be recorded
 then hosted on their website.

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[Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
On Thu, Sep 23 2010, Richard Moreland wrote:

 Hi All,

 I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to
 demonstrate Org-mode.  The screencasts I've made for MobileOrg[1,2]
 seem to have helped users get started quickly.  There are so many
 powerful features of Org-mode that are difficult to visualize yourself
 using until you can see them in action.  It may also help draw in new
 users who otherwise wouldn't quite get it.

One thing that would be really excellent is to show keystrokes as you do
the tutorial. I don't know what system you're using, but this link:

http://screencasters.heathenx.org/blog/2009/04/06/smaller-key-status-monitor/

Sounds like it might be okay for Linux, and this one has some (seriously
ugly) options for Windows:

http://dan.hersam.com/2009/05/01/how-to-display-keystrokes-for-screencasts-on-windows/

Macs have KeyCastr or something like that…

Just a thought!

Eric


 Some topics that may be interesting:

 - Org-mode in action, demonstrating common tasks like capture,
 restructuring a tree, refiling, etc.
 - Babel
 - Integration with other tools (Gnus, WL, Firefox, etc)
 - Clocking/reporting
 - Export capabilities
 - Power user showing their streamlined configurations
 - ...?

 I'd like to collect all of the videos in one place, unify them with
 some similar (but simple) production, with each of the videos having a
 page that links to documentation, Worg, example dotfiles, comments,
 etc to help the user take it further on their own.

 I'd be happy to host the videos if bandwidth is a concern on the
 orgmode.org site.  I've also already purchased the necessary software
 to record/edit the videos.  But I'm looking to the community for ideas
 on topics as well as individuals who would be willing to record the
 videos or at least help me work up a script with key talking points so
 I could do the recording and narration.

 What do you think?  Anyone interested in helping?

 Thanks,
 Richard

 [1] http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/screencasts/MobileOrg-Dropbox-OSX/
 [2] http://ncogni.to/mobileorg/overview.mov

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Richard Moreland
Erik, thanks for the reminder about folding.  I had it in my script and must've 
lost it in one of the edits.  I do prefer making these on the Mac.  It makes 
piecing them together much easier.  Recordmydesktop on Linux will do single 
takes fine, but stitching it together in the end may be a chore.  Maybe you 
guys are good enough to do it all in one take though :)

John, you raise good points about what we can expect of the viewer.  I'm open 
to suggestions, in fact maybe a 'Just enough Emacs for Org-mode' intro could 
help newcomers to Emacs who are here just for Org-mode (like I was a year ago). 
 Some of these issues could also be addressed on the episode's webpage, which 
would link to relevant docs and info.

As far as some of the missing keystrokes, I was trying to find a balance 
between showing every keystroke (and risk confusing the user), or just show 
only the keys with modifiers (my 2 options in the tool, unfortunately).

I've updated the screencast (same URL) to contain a small bit about folding.

Thanks for the comments, I hope we can refine this and make a plan for more as 
well.

-Richard

On Sep 23, 2010, at 11:09 PM, John Hendy wrote:

 Wow, Richard. That was sweet. You even have a pleasing screencaster's voice.
 
 My only thought was along the lines of what one should assume about org-mode 
 viewers. Familiarity with emacs? No knowledge of emacs? I only got into emacs 
 because I found org-mode, so my only thought there is that I might not even 
 have known what meta was... I can't recall, but did you clarify meta = alt 
 on Win/Linux and Command on Mac?
 
 Stuff like that might be helpful. Obviously these won't all be done on a Mac 
 and some unfamiliar with it might wonder what the Command and carat symbols 
 are on their own keyboards?
 
 As Erik said -- folding and perhaps adjusting in and out (meta + left/right). 
 Also, it seems that only the meta or control functions show up as keystrokes. 
 For example, I thought you said M-n s and M-n w to narrow on the tree and 
 then widen the view but I only ever saw one part of that flash on the screen.
 
 Great, great job. Loved it and think this is exactly what Org could use. I 
 have a co-worker who just got emacs and org-mode up on his computer and would 
 love to have something this simple and clear-cut.
 
 
 Great work, again.
 John
 
 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu wrote:
 On 09/23/2010 07:45 PM, Richard Moreland wrote:
 I jumped the gun a bit and decided to put together a video showing the very 
 basics.  It seems overly simple when I re-watch it, but I think it is helpful 
 for those who are unsure how to get started with the basics of Org-mode.
 
 http://ncogni.to/org-screencasts/1-basics/
 
 Feedback is welcome, these were the least exciting topics to cover, but I 
 wasn't sure how to really wow new users without overwhelming them.  I figured 
 that taking it step by step with short, clear episodes covering special 
 topics would be a good start.
 
 
 Really nice, agree that the intro is the least exciting.
 
 But even starting with agendas in the next one, the more interesting things
 can be shown.
 
 Great job!
 
 So with the software you use, you can go and insert/delete/edit voice into the
 presentation once it's complete, or if you want to change the wording in one
 part, do you have to record the whole thing over again?  I assume you can 
 change
 it, but don't know if the Linux tool has that capability.
 
 
 -Richard
 
 On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Charles Cave wrote:
 
 Richard Morelandrlmat  ncogni.to  writes:
 I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to
 demonstrate Org-mode.
 
 Great idea!  I would he happy to record a couple of screencasts
 based on tutorials I have written. Currently I am preparing
 a tutorial on date trees and capturing notes to a journal.
 
 I am a Windows user and a screencast tool I use is
 http://www.screenr.com - from Articulate.
 This allows screencasts up to 5 minutes to be recorded
 then hosted on their website.
 
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[Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Shelagh Manton
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:34:00 -0400, Richard Moreland wrote:

 Erik, thanks for the reminder about folding.  I had it in my script and
 must've lost it in one of the edits.  I do prefer making these on the
 Mac.  It makes piecing them together much easier.  Recordmydesktop on
 Linux will do single takes fine, but stitching it together in the end
 may be a chore.  Maybe you guys are good enough to do it all in one take
 though :)
 
 John, you raise good points about what we can expect of the viewer.  I'm
 open to suggestions, in fact maybe a 'Just enough Emacs for Org-mode'
 intro could help newcomers to Emacs who are here just for Org-mode (like
 I was a year ago).  Some of these issues could also be addressed on the
 episode's webpage, which would link to relevant docs and info.
 
 As far as some of the missing keystrokes, I was trying to find a balance
 between showing every keystroke (and risk confusing the user), or just
 show only the keys with modifiers (my 2 options in the tool,
 unfortunately).
 
 I've updated the screencast (same URL) to contain a small bit about
 folding.
 
 Thanks for the comments, I hope we can refine this and make a plan for
 more as well.
 
 -Richard

A tool I looked at a few months ago might be useful here.
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ScreencastMode 
I downloaded it but haven't played with it yet. Its main purpose is to 
make the inner working of whats happening in emacs more obvious to the 
viewer. 

Shelagh
 
 On Sep 23, 2010, at 11:09 PM, John Hendy wrote:
 
 Wow, Richard. That was sweet. You even have a pleasing screencaster's
 voice.
 
 My only thought was along the lines of what one should assume about
 org-mode viewers. Familiarity with emacs? No knowledge of emacs? I only
 got into emacs because I found org-mode, so my only thought there is
 that I might not even have known what meta was... I can't recall, but
 did you clarify meta = alt on Win/Linux and Command on Mac?
 
 Stuff like that might be helpful. Obviously these won't all be done on
 a Mac and some unfamiliar with it might wonder what the Command and
 carat symbols are on their own keyboards?
 
 As Erik said -- folding and perhaps adjusting in and out (meta +
 left/right). Also, it seems that only the meta or control functions
 show up as keystrokes. For example, I thought you said M-n s and M-n
 w to narrow on the tree and then widen the view but I only ever saw
 one part of that flash on the screen.
 
 Great, great job. Loved it and think this is exactly what Org could
 use. I have a co-worker who just got emacs and org-mode up on his
 computer and would love to have something this simple and clear-cut.
 
 
 Great work, again.
 John
 
 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu
 wrote: On 09/23/2010 07:45 PM, Richard Moreland wrote: I jumped the gun
 a bit and decided to put together a video showing the very basics.  It
 seems overly simple when I re-watch it, but I think it is helpful for
 those who are unsure how to get started with the basics of Org-mode.
 
 http://ncogni.to/org-screencasts/1-basics/
 
 Feedback is welcome, these were the least exciting topics to cover, but
 I wasn't sure how to really wow new users without overwhelming them.  I
 figured that taking it step by step with short, clear episodes covering
 special topics would be a good start.
 
 
 Really nice, agree that the intro is the least exciting.
 
 But even starting with agendas in the next one, the more interesting
 things can be shown.
 
 Great job!
 
 So with the software you use, you can go and insert/delete/edit voice
 into the presentation once it's complete, or if you want to change the
 wording in one part, do you have to record the whole thing over again? 
 I assume you can change it, but don't know if the Linux tool has that
 capability.
 
 
 -Richard
 
 On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Charles Cave wrote:
 
 Richard Morelandrlmat  ncogni.to  writes: I think it would be
 helpful to create a series of screencasts to demonstrate Org-mode.
 
 Great idea!  I would he happy to record a couple of screencasts based
 on tutorials I have written. Currently I am preparing a tutorial on
 date trees and capturing notes to a journal.
 
 I am a Windows user and a screencast tool I use is
 http://www.screenr.com - from Articulate. This allows screencasts up to
 5 minutes to be recorded then hosted on their website.
 
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

2010-09-23 Thread Erik Iverson

On 09/23/2010 10:09 PM, John Hendy wrote:

Wow, Richard. That was sweet. You even have a pleasing screencaster's
voice.


Agreed with John.  Your voice is perfect for this, and you have
good timing and delivery.




My only thought was along the lines of what one should assume about
org-mode viewers. Familiarity with emacs? No knowledge of emacs? I only
got into emacs because I found org-mode, so my only thought there is
that I might not even have known what meta was... I can't recall, but
did you clarify meta = alt on Win/Linux and Command on Mac?

Stuff like that might be helpful. Obviously these won't all be done on a
Mac and some unfamiliar with it might wonder what the Command and carat
symbols are on their own keyboards?

As Erik said -- folding and perhaps adjusting in and out (meta +
left/right). Also, it seems that only the meta or control functions show
up as keystrokes. For example, I thought you said M-n s and M-n w to
narrow on the tree and then widen the view but I only ever saw one part
of that flash on the screen.

Great, great job. Loved it and think this is exactly what Org could use.
I have a co-worker who just got emacs and org-mode up on his computer
and would love to have something this simple and clear-cut.


Great work, again.
John

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu
mailto:er...@ccbr.umn.edu wrote:

On 09/23/2010 07:45 PM, Richard Moreland wrote:

I jumped the gun a bit and decided to put together a video
showing the very basics.  It seems overly simple when I re-watch
it, but I think it is helpful for those who are unsure how to
get started with the basics of Org-mode.

http://ncogni.to/org-screencasts/1-basics/

Feedback is welcome, these were the least exciting topics to
cover, but I wasn't sure how to really wow new users without
overwhelming them.  I figured that taking it step by step with
short, clear episodes covering special topics would be a good start.


Really nice, agree that the intro is the least exciting.

But even starting with agendas in the next one, the more interesting
things
can be shown.

Great job!

So with the software you use, you can go and insert/delete/edit
voice into the
presentation once it's complete, or if you want to change the
wording in one
part, do you have to record the whole thing over again?  I assume
you can change
it, but don't know if the Linux tool has that capability.


-Richard

On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Charles Cave wrote:

Richard Morelandrlmat ncogni.to http://ncogni.to
  writes:
I think it would be helpful to create a series of
screencasts to
demonstrate Org-mode.


Great idea!  I would he happy to record a couple of screencasts
based on tutorials I have written. Currently I am preparing
a tutorial on date trees and capturing notes to a journal.

I am a Windows user and a screencast tool I use is
http://www.screenr.com - from Articulate.
This allows screencasts up to 5 minutes to be recorded
then hosted on their website.

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[Orgmode] Re: orgmode as a reference system: Storing private/sensitive information and syncing across devices.

2010-09-23 Thread Paul Sexton
Check out: http://ccrypt.sourceforge.net/

There is an emacs package provided, ps-ccrypt.el,  which provides seamless
loading  saving of encryted files. I have been using it with my org agenda
file for several months with no problems. 

Paul


Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celoserpa at gmail.com writes:
} 
} Yeah, you are right. Even if the transport protocol is encrypted,
} storing in plaintext doesn't sound like a good idea. Maybe we could
} have a series of tutorials or guidelines written on how to use org on
} the cloud securely, since I see many people are using it as their
} main personal-information-manager and also are using mobile-org to
} sync stuff across devices.
} 
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