[Orgmode] Re: [BUG] .dir-locals.el broken links on cygwin

2011-01-11 Thread Vladimir Alexiev
 Some of the .dir-locals.el files in the distribution are 
 symbolic links to another. On cygwin they come out as LNK files.

The error I get is 
Directory-local variables error: (wrong-type-argument listp !symlink  \.)



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[Orgmode] org-babel, R, and org-babel-open-src-block-result

2011-01-11 Thread Leo Alekseyev
I recently started using org-babel with R, and so far I think it's
pretty great!  I'm still getting accustomed to org-babel workflow and
am playing with available options.  I have a couple of questions:

I noticed that C-c C-o (org-babel-open-src-block-result) always gives
me an empty *Org-Babel Results* buffer, even if there's output printed
to #+results section.  Is this a bug?  Am I doing something wrong?

On a similar note, is there an option for the #+ results session to be
completely suppressed?..  I can see situations where I might simply
want to send the code to the inferior process and examine the results
there using :results output :session, or perhaps I'm running the code
just for the side effects.  It would be nice if I could say e.g.
:results none.

Thanks and keep up the good work with org-babel!

--Leo

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[Orgmode] Re: [BUG] .dir-locals.el broken links on cygwin

2011-01-11 Thread Jambunathan K
Vladimir Alexiev vladi...@sirma.bg writes:

 Some of the .dir-locals.el files in the distribution are 
 symbolic links to another. On cygwin they come out as LNK files.

 The error I get is 
 Directory-local variables error: (wrong-type-argument listp !symlink
 \.)

(Resent)

I find the symlink very problematic. I normally copy the contents of
.dir-settings.el' to .dir-locals.el.

Another troubled soul,
Jambunathan K.





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[Orgmode] Re: [BUG] .dir-locals.el broken links on cygwin

2011-01-11 Thread Jambunathan K
Vladimir Alexiev vladi...@sirma.bg writes:

 Some of the .dir-locals.el files in the distribution are 
 symbolic links to another. On cygwin they come out as LNK files.

 The error I get is 
 Directory-local variables error: (wrong-type-argument listp !symlink  \.)

I find the symlink very problematic. I normally copy the contents of
.dir-settings.el' to .dir-locals.el.

Another troubled soul,
Jambunathan K.





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[Orgmode] Re: Using org-agenda-filter-preset with or'd tags

2011-01-11 Thread Matt Lundin
David Maus dm...@ictsoc.de writes:

 At Mon, 20 Dec 2010 14:12:39 + (UTC),
 johnt wrote:

 I tried various filters to verify my syntax.
 using (org-agenda-filter-preset '(+...@work)) works fine but is not what I 
 want.
 using (org-agenda-filter-preset '(@Work | critical)) also doesn't work.

 There are some errors in your `org-agenda-filter-preset':

  1. You should not quote this list, because the entire structure of
 `org-agenda-custom-commands' is already quoted.

Quoting a list works fine in my org-agenda-custom-commands settings.
In fact, there are other variables that have quoted lists as their
setting, such as org-agenda-entry-types. 

  2. Format of `org-agenda-filter-preset' (C-h v
 org-agenda-filter-preset RET):

,
| A preset of the tags filter used for secondary agenda filtering.
| This must be a list of strings, each string must be a single tag preceded
| by + or -.
`

So (@work | critical) is wrong format.

That's the problem.


  3. The preset filter ANDs the tags together and as far as I am aware
 of (our could think of) it is not possible to OR tags together.
 However, I wonder why you would like to set the preset-filter: The
 tags-todo query already selects only tasks that are either tagged
 @work or critical?


It would make sense if org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled is 'all or
'past.

To use or logic to filter the agenda, I would recommend setting
org-agenda-skip-function.

--8---cut here---start-8---
(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  '((W Work Schedule 
 ((agenda  
  ((org-agenda-skip-function '(org-agenda-skip-entry-if 
'notregexp :\\(@Work\\|critical\\):)))
   (org-agenda-ndays 1)))
  (tags-todo @Work|critical)
--8---cut here---end---8---

Best,
Matt

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[Orgmode] Re: Using org-agenda-filter-preset with or'd tags

2011-01-11 Thread Matt Lundin
Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes:

 To use or logic to filter the agenda, I would recommend setting
 org-agenda-skip-function.

 (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
   '((W Work Schedule 
  ((agenda  
 ((org-agenda-skip-function '(org-agenda-skip-entry-if 
 'notregexp :\\(@Work\\|critical\\):)))
  (org-agenda-ndays 1)))
   (tags-todo @Work|critical)


The above contains a typo. It should read:

(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  '((W Work Schedule 
 ((agenda  
  ((org-agenda-skip-function '(org-agenda-skip-entry-if 
'notregexp :\\(@Work\\|critical\\):))
   (org-agenda-ndays 1)))
  (tags-todo @Work|critical)

Best,
Matt

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Using org-agenda-filter-preset with or'd tags

2011-01-11 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jan 11, 2011, at 2:20 PM, Matt Lundin wrote:


David Maus dm...@ictsoc.de writes:


At Mon, 20 Dec 2010 14:12:39 + (UTC),
johnt wrote:



I tried various filters to verify my syntax.
using (org-agenda-filter-preset '(+...@work)) works fine but is not  
what I want.
using (org-agenda-filter-preset '(@Work | critical)) also  
doesn't work.


There are some errors in your `org-agenda-filter-preset':

1. You should not quote this list, because the entire structure of
   `org-agenda-custom-commands' is already quoted.


Quoting a list works fine in my org-agenda-custom-commands settings.
In fact, there are other variables that have quoted lists as their
setting, such as org-agenda-entry-types.


Yes.  The way the variable settings are used when constructing the  
agenda views is actually causing evaluation of the values.  So the  
quote is good here.


- Carsten





2. Format of `org-agenda-filter-preset' (C-h v
   org-agenda-filter-preset RET):

  ,
  | A preset of the tags filter used for secondary agenda filtering.
  | This must be a list of strings, each string must be a single  
tag preceded

  | by + or -.
  `

  So (@work | critical) is wrong format.


That's the problem.



3. The preset filter ANDs the tags together and as far as I am aware
   of (our could think of) it is not possible to OR tags together.
   However, I wonder why you would like to set the preset-filter: The
   tags-todo query already selects only tasks that are either tagged
   @work or critical?



It would make sense if org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled is 'all or
'past.

To use or logic to filter the agenda, I would recommend setting
org-agenda-skip-function.

--8---cut here---start-8---
(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
 '((W Work Schedule
((agenda 
		  ((org-agenda-skip-function '(org-agenda-skip-entry-if 'notregexp  
:\\(@Work\\|critical\\):)))

   (org-agenda-ndays 1)))
 (tags-todo @Work|critical)
--8---cut here---end---8---

Best,
Matt

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Re: [Orgmode] Quick note about subtree copy and paste

2011-01-11 Thread Giovanni Ridolfi
Robert Goldman rpgold...@sift.info writes:

 I just did a copy and paste and noticed that when I did so the copied
 properties included the ID which, after being copied, meant that the
 unique identifier became a non-unique identifier.
Well, you shouldn't ! ;-)

If you have to copy/paste a subtree, please... *clone* it.

manual: Structure editing:

`C-c C-x c' (`org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift')

(then the :ID: is changed)

Giovanni

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[Orgmode] Re: Property inheritance in Org-collector

2011-01-11 Thread d . tchin
Eric Schulte schulte.eric at gmail.com writes:

I used new version of org-collector as you suggested. It works well.

Thank you.

Regards.


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[Orgmode] Feature request: Select links by description [7.4]

2011-01-11 Thread Dave Abrahams

When using org-insert-link, it would be far better for me to have it
show me the _descriptions_ of links (the default link text), rather
than showing me the links themselves.  This is especially true of
email links, which are generally long and unintelligible by
themselves.

I have something set up that stores a link to every email I send, so I
can easily link to follow-ups in my active Org items.  As a result, I
end up with *lots* of stored links, which makes this a real struggle.

Thanks for listening,

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Re: [Orgmode] Quick note about subtree copy and paste

2011-01-11 Thread Robert Goldman
On 1/11/11 Jan 11 -8:03 AM, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote:
 Robert Goldman rpgold...@sift.info writes:
 
 I just did a copy and paste and noticed that when I did so the copied
 properties included the ID which, after being copied, meant that the
 unique identifier became a non-unique identifier.
 Well, you shouldn't ! ;-)
 
 If you have to copy/paste a subtree, please... *clone* it.
 
 manual: Structure editing:
 
 `C-c C-x c' (`org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift')
 
 (then the :ID: is changed)
 
 Giovanni

I get the point, but the current presentation is unnecessarily
confusing.  I was just /copying/ --- there was no time shifting
involved, so when I look at them menu and see copy and clone with
time shift, it is copy that's what I naturally do.

Actually, as I look at the manual I see:

`C-c C-x c' (`org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift')
 Clone a subtree by making a number of sibling copies of it.  You
 will be prompted for the number of copies to make, and you can
 also specify if any timestamps in the entry should be shifted.
 This can be useful, for example, to create a number of tasks
 related to a series of lectures to prepare.  For more details, see
 the docstring of the command `org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift'.

There's nothing there to even remotely suggest to me that this is going
to Do The Right Thing about properties.  It's all about dates and
time-shifting.  It may /happen/ to do the right thing with properties,
but it sure doesn't /say/ that it will.  The ID property is mentioned
only in the interactive docstring, and pretty deeply down.

I'd like to make a somewhat radical suggestion:

If cloning is the primary option, and more safe than copy --- i.e., if
copy is this is the primitive operation that you should only do if you
know what you are doing, because it might corrupt data, then I would
argue that it's CLONE that should be bound to C-c C-x M-y --- the
standard emacs keybinding I'm going to go to first --- and COPY should
be demoted to the less-familiar alternative.

This assumes that the answer to Is there any case where I should do
copy and /not/ prefer clone? is no.

But I'm not sure that's the case.  They clone doesn't do the same thing
to the cut buffer as copy, does it?  e.g., I don't use clone to make a
copy of a subtree from file A into file B.

Even more radical suggestion:

So maybe the right answer is not to ask us to use clone all the time,
but that COPY and PASTE should be fixed to Do The Right Thing with the
ID property.

Best,
r

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Re: [Orgmode] org-babel, R, and org-babel-open-src-block-result

2011-01-11 Thread Erik Iverson

On 01/11/2011 04:22 AM, Leo Alekseyev wrote:

I recently started using org-babel with R, and so far I think it's
pretty great!  I'm still getting accustomed to org-babel workflow and
am playing with available options.  I have a couple of questions:

I noticed that C-c C-o (org-babel-open-src-block-result) always gives
me an empty *Org-Babel Results* buffer, even if there's output printed
to #+results section.  Is this a bug?  Am I doing something wrong?

On a similar note, is there an option for the #+ results session to be
completely suppressed?..  I can see situations where I might simply
want to send the code to the inferior process and examine the results
there using :results output :session, or perhaps I'm running the code
just for the side effects.  It would be nice if I could say e.g.
:results none.


From the manual:

The following results options indicate what happens with the results once they 
are collected.


* silent
The results will be echoed in the minibuffer but will not be inserted into the 
Org-mode buffer. E.g., :results output silent.


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Re: [Orgmode] Using org-agenda-filter-preset with or'd tags

2011-01-11 Thread John Tarbotton
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 08:58, David Maus dm...@ictsoc.de wrote:

 At Mon, 20 Dec 2010 14:12:39 + (UTC),
 johnt wrote:
 
  I am trying to set a custom command to show my work tasks and critical
 home
  tasks for the day.
 
  I have tried the following.
 
  (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
'( (W Work Schedule
   ((agenda 
 ((org-agenda-filter-preset '(@Work|critical))   ;; this
 doesn't work
  (org-agenda-ndays 1)))
(tags-todo @Work|critical)))
  )
 
  It seems just to ignore the filter. The tags-todo line works fine.
 
  I tried various filters to verify my syntax.
  using (org-agenda-filter-preset '(+...@work)) works fine but is not what I
 want.
  using (org-agenda-filter-preset '(@Work | critical)) also doesn't
 work.

 There are some errors in your `org-agenda-filter-preset':

  1. You should not quote this list, because the entire structure of
`org-agenda-custom-commands' is already quoted.

  2. Format of `org-agenda-filter-preset' (C-h v
org-agenda-filter-preset RET):

   ,
   | A preset of the tags filter used for secondary agenda filtering.
   | This must be a list of strings, each string must be a single tag
 preceded
   | by + or -.
   `

   So (@work | critical) is wrong format.

  3. The preset filter ANDs the tags together and as far as I am aware
of (our could think of) it is not possible to OR tags together.
However, I wonder why you would like to set the preset-filter: The
tags-todo query already selects only tasks that are either tagged
@work or critical?

 HTH,
  -- David
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 Jabber dmj...@jabber.org
 Email. dm...@ictsoc.de


Thanks for the reply.  It turns out that most of this did not matter.  I was
mostly
concerned with this for export and use with Mobile Org.  For these it seems
to
process all the custom commands together.  This seems to act like a block
agenda
which does not support filtering of individual blocks.  I could get one
custom command
to export or push to mobile org correctly but with more then one the filters
were ignored.
I ended up having to write some custom functions to process the commands one
at
a time to temporary files and then combine the files. The or'ing of tags not
being
supported is still an issue but I changed my usage to get around that.

Thanks for the tip on C-h v org-agenda-filter-preset RET to get
information on a variable.
There is just so much to learn.

John
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Re: [Orgmode] [PATCH] Preserve trailing blank lines

2011-01-11 Thread Jason Dunsmore
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:

 On Jan 5, 2011, at 2:24 AM, Jason Dunsmore wrote:

 I like to leave a blank line at the end of items that have bodies,
 but I
 found functions like org-metaup, org-metadown, and org-refile were
 leaving that blank line behind.

 These commands treat empty lines as belonging to the entry
 below the empty line - which is, I think, the right convention here.

I now understand this is a formatting convention issue.  Here is an
updated patch that looks at the setting for `heading' in the variable
org-blank-before-new-entry:

diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index 98c85d0..ee3f873 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -18477,7 +18477,9 @@ Taken from `count' in cl-seq.el with all keyword
argumen
   Move backwards over whitespace, to the beginning of the first empty
   line.
 Returns the number of empty lines passed.
   (let ((pos (point)))
-(skip-chars-backward  \t\n\r)
+(if (cdr (assoc 'heading org-blank-before-new-entry))
+   (skip-chars-backward  \t\n\r)
+  (forward-line -1))
 (beginning-of-line 2)
 (goto-char (min (point) pos))
 (count-lines (point) pos)))

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Re: [Orgmode] Bug: Items with priority not refile targets? [7.4]

2011-01-11 Thread Dave Abrahams
At Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:27:05 +0100,
David Maus wrote:
 
 At Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:35:12 -0900,
 Dave Abrahams wrote:
 
 
 
  Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
  what in fact did happen.  You don't know how to make a good report?  See
 
   http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback
 
  Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.
  
 
  I have an item
 
  *** PROJECT Get out of .emacs Bankruptcy
  :EmacsBankruptcy:Net:
  SCHEDULED: 2010-12-22 Wed
  :PROPERTIES:
  :Link:
  :ID:   B8A41FAF-1A18-4709-A873-5BF3729CA066
  :END:
 
  that is a refile target only if it has no priority.  If I set it to
  priority [#A], it will never be offered as a refile target.  That
  seems broken to me.
 
  Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.29)
   of 2010-05-08 on black.local
  Package: Org-mode version 7.4
 
 I cannot reproduce this with
 
 Org-mode version 7.4 (release_7.4.95.ga2ac)
 
 GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.0)
  of 2010-12-11 on raven, modified by Debian
 
 and a minimal setup + emacs -Q

I can!  But, strangely, not reliably :(

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[Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] Fix conflict doc

2011-01-11 Thread Jeff Horn
Hmm.. This wasn't picked up by patchwork. Please ignore. I'll try
sending using =git send-email= instead.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Jeff Horn jrhorn...@gmail.com wrote:
 (Eric, mind glancing at the patch?)

 In regard to the following message:

    http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/35931

 This patch incorporates Eric Schulte's method of making org-mode work
 with yasnippet into the documentation.

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[Orgmode] Re: org-babel, R, and org-babel-open-src-block-result

2011-01-11 Thread Leo Alekseyev
Erik Iverson eriki at ccbr.umn.edu writes:

 
 On 01/11/2011 04:22 AM, Leo Alekseyev wrote:
  I recently started using org-babel with R, and so far I think it's
  pretty great!  I'm still getting accustomed to org-babel workflow and
  am playing with available options.  I have a couple of questions:
 
  I noticed that C-c C-o (org-babel-open-src-block-result) always gives
  me an empty *Org-Babel Results* buffer, even if there's output printed
  to #+results section.  Is this a bug?  Am I doing something wrong?
 
  On a similar note, is there an option for the #+ results session to be
  completely suppressed?..  I can see situations where I might simply
  want to send the code to the inferior process and examine the results
  there using :results output :session, or perhaps I'm running the code
  just for the side effects.  It would be nice if I could say e.g.
  :results none.
 
  From the manual:
 
 The following results options indicate what happens with the results once 
 they 
 are collected.
 
  * silent
 The results will be echoed in the minibuffer but will not be inserted into 
 the 
 Org-mode buffer. E.g., :results output silent.

Thanks Erik.  It would be nice if section 14.9 of the Org manual could 
reference 
14.8.2.  In general, it would be nice if the org HTML documents could support 
the same outline folding cycling behavior that you see in Emacs buffers, 
otherwise it's difficult to see the surrounding context.

I'd still like to know what (org-babel-open-src-block-result) is supposed to 
do...  Haven't found that in the manual.


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] Fix conflict doc

2011-01-11 Thread Nick Dokos
Jeff Horn jrhorn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmm.. This wasn't picked up by patchwork. Please ignore. I'll try
 sending using =git send-email= instead.
 

That's because the attachment was not typed correctly: it should
probably be text/plain instead of application/octet-stream (a useless,
zero-information default).

I've ranted about this before, but in all fairness, this is not
necessarily the sender's fault: there seem to be brain-dead mail clients
out there (Thunderbird seems to be one), which don't give you the choice
of how to type your attachment - in T'bird's case, it is done in the
interest of user-friendliness (don't get me going on that).  OTOH, if
your mailer *does* give you the option, you have nobody to blame but
yourself :-)

See e.g http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/27001/focus=27200

I thought there was a mention of this in

 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html

but I cannot find it now.

HTH,
Nick

 On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Jeff Horn jrhorn...@gmail.com wrote:
  (Eric, mind glancing at the patch?)
 
  In regard to the following message:
 
     http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/35931
 
  This patch incorporates Eric Schulte's method of making org-mode work
  with yasnippet into the documentation.
 
  --
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Re: [Orgmode] org-babel, R, and org-babel-open-src-block-result

2011-01-11 Thread Eric Schulte
Leo Alekseyev dnqu...@gmail.com writes:

 I recently started using org-babel with R, and so far I think it's
 pretty great!  I'm still getting accustomed to org-babel workflow and
 am playing with available options.  I have a couple of questions:

 I noticed that C-c C-o (org-babel-open-src-block-result) always gives
 me an empty *Org-Babel Results* buffer, even if there's output printed
 to #+results section.  Is this a bug?  Am I doing something wrong?


I have not noticed this myself, can you share an example?


 On a similar note, is there an option for the #+ results session to be
 completely suppressed?..  I can see situations where I might simply
 want to send the code to the inferior process and examine the results
 there using :results output :session, or perhaps I'm running the code
 just for the side effects.  It would be nice if I could say e.g.
 :results none.


Yes, for a complete list of the available header arguments and their
effects please see
http://orgmode.org/manual/Working-With-Source-Code.html


 Thanks and keep up the good work with org-babel!

 --Leo

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Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Painless integration of source blocks with language

2011-01-11 Thread Eric Schulte
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes:

 Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes:

 [...]

 A crude version of the above is already possible using the
 `org-babel-detangle' function.  For example, follow the instructions in
 the attached org-mode file (which uses elisp rather than clojure code
 blocks simply for wider portability to non-clojure users).

 Detangling, as currently implemented, doesn't do the job for me as it
 doesn't understand noweb.  My current mode of operation with org and
 babel is to have various snippets of code throughout a file and then
 combine these in different ways using noweb syntax which I then tangle
 to create different source files (each bringing together different
 pieces in different configurations).


I agree, this is an area ripe for improvement.


 In any case, and please excuse me for hijacking this thread a little,
 the increasing use of babel (a good thing!) especially with noweb syntax
 and tangling (as this thread is about) is bringing up a document
 management issue: I find it difficult (a) to remember what all my source
 code snippets are called and (b) to navigate to any given snippet.  I
 would love to see a babel table of contents popup (a la the table of
 contents popup with reftex implements for latex files).  Is something
 like this already available?  If not, how difficult would it be to
 implement (I'm happy to try given a pointer in the right
 direction(s)...).


There was some talk of merging imenu with Babel which would provide the
functionality you describe, I don't believe this ever resulting in
working code however.  There are a couple of options...

If you know the name of the code block you want to find you can use
`org-babel-goto-named-src-block' (bound to C-c C-v g) to jump to a named
code block (∃ a similar function for finding named results).  This
function provides completion on the block names, the function
`org-babel-src-block-names' returns a list of all named blocks in the
current buffer, so it could be used to built up such a table.  In fact
the following code block will insert a table of such names in the
current buffer.  Note: you will need to pull the latest as I had to fix
a small bug in `org-babel-src-block-names'.

#+begin_src emacs-lisp :results list
  (mapcar #'list (reverse (org-babel-src-block-names)))
#+end_src

Hope that helps, Best -- Eric


 Thanks,
 eric

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Re: [Orgmode] [PATCH] Fix conflict doc

2011-01-11 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi Jeff,

Thanks for putting this patch together, I've just checked it out and it
looks great.  It is now applied to the repository.

Also, thanks for submitting a documentation patch, the manual is an
incredible resource, and constant attention like this issue pointed out
by Puneeth and yourself are required to maintain it's usefulness.

If you think you may be submitting more patches in the future you may
want to consider going through the FSF assignment process [1].  The
process takes a while so it's best to have it completed before you have
a patch waiting in the wings.  Normally I wouldn't have been able to
apply this patch without you going through the process because it is
over 10 lines long, but since much of the patch consists of code
originally written by myself, I think it is ok this time.

Thanks for the contribution! -- Eric

Jeff Horn jrhorn...@gmail.com writes:

 (Eric, mind glancing at the patch?)

 In regard to the following message:

 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/35931

 This patch incorporates Eric Schulte's method of making org-mode work
 with yasnippet into the documentation.

Footnotes: 
[1]  http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [babel] Painless integration of source blocks with language

2011-01-11 Thread Eric Schulte
Seth Burleigh wbur...@gmail.com writes:

 My bad. I believe i did look up the functions, but they didn't do what i
 needed (or so i thought).
 The code doesn't matter too much, let me explain the idea.

 A file may contain many blocks of code. Lets look at a arbitrary block A. In
 the end, block A will somehow become noweb embedded into a source block
 which is actually tangled to a file. Lets call this source block C.
 find-chunk finds this source block, given the position of block A, checking
 also that the source has a type of clojure. So, basically it searches for
 the string A, if it finds it, checks if the source block (with an
 arbitrary name, lets say my-block) is tangled, if not, it searches for
 my-block until it actually finds a tangled source block.


This is functional which is currently missing in Babel (e.g. finding
where code block A is referenced), I can see the appeal for such a
function.


 tangle-chunk is used to tangle block A by finding block C (using find-chunk)
 and tangling that. It is basically copied from org-babel except that it uses
 mkdir to create any parent directories that do not exist (i think this
 should be included as an option in tangle file, btw, if it isn't)


Does tangle chunk tangle just block A, or just block C, or does it
re-tangle the entire file.  If just selected code blocks, how does it
know where to insert them into the file?

WRT: creating missing directories, maybe this would be better as an
option rather than the default, as I often mistype a tangle path and
it's useful for me when an error is thrown upon trying to tangle to a
non-existent directory.  Also, for packaging up repositories, there is
an `org-babel-pre-tangle-hook' which could be used to prepare a
directory structure in which to tangle source files.


 So, conceptually we have many blocks which are noweb embedded into various
 source files, however indirectly. We want to find the source files that
 these blocks are embedded in so that we can (in the future) navigate from
 the block to the file number.
  '

Agreed, the lack of the ability to trace noweb references through to raw
source files (and more importantly to trace back from source files
through to the original Babel files) is becoming a pain-point in the
current code base.

It is currently possible to both jump back from source code to the
embedded code block using `org-babel-tangle-jump-to-org', it should be
fairly straightforward to write a function for jumping from a code block
to source using the same comment lines as anchors.

As for how to trace back through noweb links, the best option seem to be
using the existing jump function to navigate from raw source to the
embedded block, keeping track of the point's offset form the beginning
of the block, then using `org-babel-expand-src-block' to expand the body
of the embedded code block marking noweb references with text properties
as they are inserted into the expanding body, and then using the point
offset to place the point into the appropriate noweb reference.  This
process could then recurse on the embedded noweb code block until it
ends up in a non-noweb portion of an expanded code block body.

 
 Thats all that does, from line 110 up. I copied it from my previous posting.
 From below that, i implement an emacs overlay, created by new-chunk.
 Basically all it does is associate a chunk of code in the buffer to a chunk
 of code in another chunk. We can 'add a link', i.e. append a chunk to its
 'lp-link property.

 Next, we add the ability to replace the code of one chunk with another. This
 is what push-chunk does. Now, all that we have left is the code to create
 chunks from source blocks.


Meaning you can update a portion of the raw source file and push the
changes back to the org file?  This sounds similar to what is done by
`org-babel-detangle' only it uses marks and overlays to maintain the
source-org mapping rather than comments (which is a cleaner interactive
solution, but lacks persistence beyond a single Emacs session, or the
ability to say fold in changes to the raw source made by someone else on
a group project).


 Pushing code from one chunk to another code work with noweb embedding, but
 it was just a proof of concept anyways.


That's great, what was the logic used to push back through noweb
references?  Did this rely solely on the overlays you created during
tangling?  The analog of that approach would be to insert noweb
references wrapped in comments, which may be the simplest solution, as
long as there are not cases where the additional comments would be
unwanted in the raw source code file.  Perhaps there is a way for Babel
to use marks rather than comments and then save the mark information in
the org file, this would be great in that it wouldn't require any Babel
comments in the source file, although I'm not sure how robust marks are
to offline editing.


 What i was imagining when i did this is that i would have a source code file
 which has various 'chunks' 

[Orgmode] Bug: Scatter doubles up on SCHEDULED items [7.4]

2011-01-11 Thread James Shuttleworth


Hi,
  I love the idea of the new bulk scatter command, but it's giving me
  a problem.  When used, it adds an extra SCHEDULED item to entries
  rather than change the current one.  Maybe this is expected
  behaviour and I just don't get it, but I don't think so.  

  If I can give any more information that might be useful, I'm happy to.

  Thanks for org and thanks in advance for any help with this!

Regards,

James


Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.0)
 of 2009-09-27 on palmer, modified by Debian
Package: Org-mode version 7.4

current state:
==
(setq
 org-log-done 'time
 org-clock-in-switch-to-state STARTED
 org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-deadline-is-shown t
 org-export-latex-after-initial-vars-hook '(org-beamer-after-initial-vars)
 org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-default-hook 
org-babel-speed-command-hook)
 org-agenda-custom-commands '((H Personal/home list tags @HOME|PERSONAL)
  (D Daily Action List
   ((agenda 
 ((org-agenda-ndays 1)
  (org-agenda-sorting-strategy
   (quote ((agenda time-up priority-down 
tag-up
  (org-deadline-warning-days 2))
 )
)
   )
  (s Started Tasks todo STARTED
   ((org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled nil)
(org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines nil)
(org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date nil))
   )
  (w Tasks waiting on something todo WAITING 
nil)
  (A Tasks to be Archived todo 
DONE|CANCELLED|DELEGATED nil)
  (r Weekly Review
   ((agenda  ((org-agenda-ndays 7))) (tags 
CATEGORY=\Project\)
(tags CATEGORY=\Someday\) (todo WAITING))
   )
  (j Journal tags CATEGORY=\Journal\)
  (S Someday tags CATEGORY=\Someday\))
 org-agenda-files ~/Documents/gtd/lists/agendas
 org-agenda-include-diary t
 org-blocker-hook '(org-block-todo-from-children-or-siblings-or-parent)
 org-agenda-tags-column -120
 org-habit-show-habits-only-for-today nil
 org-babel-load-languages '((R . t) (ditaa . t) (dot . t) (emacs-lisp . t) 
(gnuplot . t) (haskell)
(ocaml) (python . t) (ruby) (screen) (sh . t) (sql) 
(sqlite . t))
 org-clock-into-drawer CLOCK
 org-agenda-entry-text-exclude-regexps '(.* - State.* Added:.*$ 
\\[\\[.*\\]\\])
 org-fontify-whole-heading-line t
 org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
 org-capture-templates '((t Todo entry (file+headline 
~/Documents/gtd/lists/gtd.org Tasks)
  * TODO %? %^G\n  Added: %U\n  SCHEDULED: %t\n  %i)
 (w Waiting entry (file+headline 
~/Documents/gtd/lists/gtd.org Waiting)
  * WAITING %?\nAdded: %U\n  %i)
 (j Journal entry
  (file+headline ~/Documents/gtd/lists/journal.org 
Journal)
  * %U %?:JOURNAL:\n\n)
 (T Todo (Linked) entry
  (file+headline ~/Documents/gtd/lists/gtd.org 
Tasks)
  * TODO %? %^G\n  Added: %U\n  SCHEDULED: %t\n  %i\n  
%a)
 (W Waiting (Linked) entry
  (file+headline ~/Documents/gtd/lists/gtd.org 
Waiting)
  * WAITING %?\nAdded: %U\n  %i\n  %a)
 (J Journal (Linked) entry
  (file+headline ~/Documents/gtd/lists/journal.org 
Journal)
  * %U %?:JOURNAL:\n\n  %i\n  %a)
 (s Someday... entry
  (file+headline ~/Documents/gtd/lists/gtd.org 
Someday) * %U %?\n\n %i\n)
 (f New file entry table-line (id 
0954865d-8062-4d88-a999-6d656365aa7c)
  )
 )
 org-export-preprocess-after-blockquote-hook 
'(org-special-blocks-make-special-cookies)
 org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
 org-babel-tangle-lang-exts '((python . py) (emacs-lisp . el))
 org-speed-commands-user '((s . org-toodledo-sync-task) (N . 
org-narrow-to-subtree) (W . widen)
   (A . org-attach) (P . org-set-property))
 org-agenda-start-with-log-mode t

 org-export-html-after-blockquotes-hook 
'(org-special-blocks-convert-html-special-cookies)
 org-export-blocks-postblock-hook '(org-exp-res/src-name-cleanup)
 org-agenda-prefix-format '((agenda .   %-18:c%?-12t% s) (timeline .   % s) 
(todo .   %-12:c)
(tags .   

Re: [Orgmode] Re: org-babel, R, and org-babel-open-src-block-result

2011-01-11 Thread Eric Schulte
Leo Alekseyev dnqu...@gmail.com writes:

 Erik Iverson eriki at ccbr.umn.edu writes:

 
 On 01/11/2011 04:22 AM, Leo Alekseyev wrote:
  I recently started using org-babel with R, and so far I think it's
  pretty great!  I'm still getting accustomed to org-babel workflow and
  am playing with available options.  I have a couple of questions:
 
  I noticed that C-c C-o (org-babel-open-src-block-result) always gives
  me an empty *Org-Babel Results* buffer, even if there's output printed
  to #+results section.  Is this a bug?  Am I doing something wrong?
 
  On a similar note, is there an option for the #+ results session to be
  completely suppressed?..  I can see situations where I might simply
  want to send the code to the inferior process and examine the results
  there using :results output :session, or perhaps I'm running the code
  just for the side effects.  It would be nice if I could say e.g.
  :results none.
 
  From the manual:
 
 The following results options indicate what happens with the results once 
 they 
 are collected.
 
  * silent
 The results will be echoed in the minibuffer but will not be inserted into 
 the 
 Org-mode buffer. E.g., :results output silent.

 Thanks Erik.  It would be nice if section 14.9 of the Org manual could
 reference 14.8.2.

I couldn't agree more, I've just pushed up this change to the manual.

 In general, it would be nice if the org HTML documents could support
 the same outline folding cycling behavior that you see in Emacs
 buffers, otherwise it's difficult to see the surrounding context.


I personally prefer to use the Emacs `info' interface, both because you
can easily text search through all parts of the manual, and for issues
of navigation and viewing a wider context.


 I'd still like to know what (org-babel-open-src-block-result) is
 supposed to do...  Haven't found that in the manual.


Hmm, apparently in some cases it does nothing currently due to a bug,
I've just fixed this buy, so please pull the latest Org-mode, and try
copying the following block and results into and Org-mode buffer and
calling C-c C-o from within the code block.

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
  (mapcar #'list (reverse (org-babel-src-block-names)))
#+end_src

#+results:
| tangle-A|
| tangle-C|
| i-have-a-name   |
| add-column-in-table-0   |
| rec-string-wrap |
| add-col |
| a-list  |
| lob-header  |
| test|
| name|
| cycle   |
| body|
| eight   |
| org-list|
| numbers |

Cheers -- Eric

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[Orgmode] Re: BUG sorting function

2011-01-11 Thread Matt Lundin
Fritjof fritj...@gmail.com writes:

 I think i found a bug. The sorting function dosn't seem to tell the
 difference between '*bold*' and '* heading' at the beginning of a
 line,  and when a heading have *bold* tekst at the beginning of a
 line, trying to  sort will give this error: Region to sort contains a
 level above the the  first entry

 Reproduce with:

 * heading
 ** subheading
 *not a heading*
 some texkt


I can confirm this bug (using emacs from bzr and a fresh org pull).

A subtree will not sort if it contains any line beginning with a single
asterisk.

Best,
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[Orgmode] Re: Help with migrating blog to org-mode format

2011-01-11 Thread Matt Lundin
Myriam Abramson mabram...@gmail.com writes:

 Each topic in a blog is a TODO task and the date is inserted when the
 task is DONE. I'm planning to read from my xml blog and write topics
 simply as * DONE mytopic ...  but how can I get the publication date
 in org to get CLOSED: date on the next line? 

 The xml of my blog is something like that: 

 title type='text' my title/title
 content type='html' my content/content
 published2003-10-22T18:27:00.000-04:00/published


After you've parsed the xml and retrieved the date string, you can
convert to an org CLOSED timestamp with something like this:

(format-time-string CLOSED: [%Y-%m-%d %H:%M] (date-to-time 
2003-10-22T18:27:00.000-04:00))

...which returns...

CLOSED: [2003-10-22 14:27]

(The time zone parsing may need some adjustment.)

HTH,
Matt


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[Orgmode] [PATCH] Update conflict documentation

2011-01-11 Thread Jeffrey Horn
This patch updates the conflict documentation regarding yasnippet to use Eric 
Schulte's fix.
---
 doc/org.texi |   21 -
 1 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/org.texi b/doc/org.texi
index e83909d..b0667e4 100644
--- a/doc/org.texi
+++ b/doc/org.texi
@@ -13423,7 +13423,7 @@ to have other replacement keys, look at the variable
 
 @item @file{yasnippet.el}
 @cindex @file{yasnippet.el}
-The way Org-mode binds the TAB key (binding to @code{[tab]} instead of
+The way Org mode binds the TAB key (binding to @code{[tab]} instead of
 @code{\t}) overrules YASnippet's access to this key.  The following code
 fixed this problem:
 
@@ -13434,6 +13434,25 @@ fixed this problem:
 (define-key yas/keymap [tab] 'yas/next-field-group)))
 @end lisp
 
+The latest version of yasnippets doesn't play well with Org mode. If the
+above code does not fix the conflict, start by defining the following
+function:
+...@lisp
+(defun yas/org-very-safe-expand ()
+   (let ((yas/fallback-behavior 'return-nil)) (yas/expand)))
+...@end lisp
+
+Then, tell Org mode what to do with the new function:
+...@lisp
+(add-hook 'org-mode-hook
+  (lambda ()
+  (make-variable-buffer-local 'yas/trigger-key)
+  (setq yas/trigger-key [tab])
+  (add-to-list 'org-tab-first-hook 'yas/org-very-safe-expand)
+  (define-key yas/keymap [tab] 'yas/next-field)
+  ))
+...@end lisp
+
 @item @file{windmove.el} by Hovav Shacham
 @cindex @file{windmove.el}
 This package also uses the @kbd{S-cursor} keys, so everything written
-- 
1.7.2


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Re: [Orgmode] BUG sorting function

2011-01-11 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Fritjof,

thanks for the report, Matt, thanks for the confirmation.

On Jan 9, 2011, at 9:46 PM, Fritjof wrote:

I think i found a bug. The sorting function dosn't seem to tell the  
difference between '*bold*' and '* heading' at the beginning of a  
line, and when a heading have *bold* tekst at the beginning of a  
line, trying to sort will give this error: Region to sort contains  
a level above the the first entry


Reproduce with:

* heading
** subheading
*not a heading*
some texkt


Yes, this was a bug, fixed now.




Also second level headings can't be bold, they show up as normal text.

Reproduce with:

* heading
** *subheading*


Is this an issue in the in-emacs representation of for Export?

- Carsten








- Fritjof
(Org mode v7.01)

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Re: [Orgmode] empty lines in datetree capture templates

2011-01-11 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jan 9, 2011, at 3:31 PM, David Maus wrote:


At Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:50:00 -0800,
Suvayu Ali wrote:


Hi everyone,

I am having some problems with a capture template for datetrees.

(setq org-capture-templates
 '((m Select meeting templates)
	(ms Schedule a meeting entry (file+headline ~/org/ 
meetings.org Meetings)

 ** %? %^t%^{CATEGORY}p\n
 :empty-lines 1)
	(mm Meeting minutes w/ clock entry (file+datetree ~/org/ 
meetings.org)

  %^{prompt} %U%^{CATEGORY}p\n\n %?
 :prepend t :clock-in :empty-lines 1 :immediate-finish)



After clock-in and after :immediate-finish, t is missing - all these  
keys need a value!
The way you write it, :clock-in has the value :empty lines, and from  
then on the property list is broken.



))

I prefer to have empty lines between two headlines and headlines and
text. When I use the above Meeting minutes w/ clock template, the  
new
entry to the date tree is inserted as below despite the :empty- 
lines 1
argument. If I try to end the older entry with a blank line, the  
empty

like is removed and the new entry is placed like this again.

Any one knows what I am doing wrong? Thank you in advance,


I can confirm that :emtpy-lines 1 seems to have no effect in a
datetree capture template.  I filed two with the template

,
| (setq org-capture-templates
|   '((X FOO entry (file+datetree /tmp/org/datetree.org  
Place table here  :empty-lines 1

`


Also this looks like a buggy template definition to me.  If I fix it to:

 (setq org-capture-templates
   '((X FOO entry (file+datetree ~/org/.org) * Place  
table here :empty-lines 1)))


I do get empty lines.

If you make the templates with customize, it is much harder to make  
mistakes in a complex variable like this.


Best wishes

- Carsten



And ended up with:

,
| * 2011
| ** 2011-01 Januar
| *** 2011-01-09 Sonntag
|  Fofofof
|  [[file:~/projects/org-mode/minimal.el::'((X%20FOO%20entry 
%20(file%2Bdatetree%20/tmp/org/datetree.org%20Table 
%20here%20%20:empty-lines%201][file:~/projects/org-mode/ 
minimal.el::'((X FOO entry (file+datetree /tmp/org/ 
datetree.org Table here  :empty-lines 1]]

|  Another one
|  [[file:~/projects/org-mode/minimal.el::'((X%20FOO%20entry 
%20(file%2Bdatetree%20/tmp/org/datetree.org%20Table 
%20here%20%20:empty-lines%201d][file:~/projects/org-mode/ 
minimal.el::'((X FOO entry (file+datetree /tmp/org/ 
datetree.org Table here  :empty-lines 1d]]

`

While I expected an empty line between Fofofof and Another one.

Using

Org-mode version 7.4 (release_7.4.135.g84087)

GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.0)
of 2010-12-11 on raven, modified by Debian

Best,
 -- David
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Re: [Orgmode] empty lines in datetree capture templates

2011-01-11 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Carsten,

On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:58:01 +0100
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 On Jan 9, 2011, at 3:31 PM, David Maus wrote:
 
  At Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:50:00 -0800,
  Suvayu Ali wrote:
 (mm Meeting minutes w/ clock entry (file+datetree
  ~/org/ meetings.org)
   %^{prompt} %U%^{CATEGORY}p\n\n %?
  :prepend t :clock-in :empty-lines 1 :immediate-finish)
 
 
 After clock-in and after :immediate-finish, t is missing - all these  
 keys need a value!
 The way you write it, :clock-in has the value :empty lines, and from  
 then on the property list is broken.
 

Thank you for catching this, don't know how I missed that.

 If you make the templates with customize, it is much harder to make  
 mistakes in a complex variable like this.
 

Yes I agree and I tried that, but customise doesn't handle newlines very
well. I would prefer the newlines show up as \n rather than actual
newlines in my custom-set-variables. I don't mind editing it later to
fix it either. But when I customise some other variable and save,
customize saves it again with newlines instead of keeping my edited
value with \n.

 Best wishes
 

Thanks

 - Carsten

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Re: [Orgmode] Viper-mode + orgmode + emacs 23.xx on OSX, slowness in insert-mode

2011-01-11 Thread Filippo A. Salustri
I haven't tried viper yet, but there's another version of emacs for OSX,
Aquamacs.  Has anyone tried to check slowness in Aquamacs?
...just a thought.
Cheers.
Fil

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[Orgmode] GNU devroom at FOSDEM 2011

2011-01-11 Thread Jose E. Marchesi

Hi.

Since Bastien is going to make a (quite interesting!) talk in the GNU
devroom, I am sending you the full information about the devroom,
including the schedule.


  GNU devroom at FOSDEM 2011
  ==


Hacking GNU at FOSDEM.

The Free and Open source Software Developers' European Meeting
(FOSDEM) is a two-day event organized by volunteers to promote the
widespread use of Free and Open Source software.

This year the GNU Project will be present with a development room.
The goal of the devroom is to promote discussion on the advancement of
the GNU coding standards and maintainers guidelines as well as the
packages implementing them, and strengthen the community of
maintainers and developers.

If you plan to join us at FOSDEM please tell us at fosdem2...@gnu.org.

Date and Location 
~~

  *Date:* Saturday 5 and Sunday 6 February 2011.

  *GNU devroom date:* Saturday 5th February from 13:00 to 19:00 

  *Location:* Brussels (Belgium)

Who's coming 
~

  Registrations:

  - Jose E. Marchesi (GNU PDF, GNU recutils, GNU Ferret).
  - Karsten Gerloff (FSFE).
  - Brian Gough (GNU Scientific Library).
  - Simon Josefsson (SASL, Libidn, GSS, Shishi, GnuTLS).
  - Andy Wingo (Guile).
  - Ralf Wildenhues (GCC, Libtool, Autoconf).
  - Ole Tange (GNU Parallel).
  - Rodrigo Rodrigues da Silva. TBC.
  - Aleksander Morgado (GNU PDF).
  - Bastien Guerry (org-mode).
  - Giuseppe Scrivano (GNU myserver, Gnuzilla, wget).
  - Matthias Kirschner (FSFE).
  - Henrik Sandklef (GNU xnee).
  - Luca Saiou (GNU epsilon).

  TBC = to be confirmed

Schedule 
~

  This is the schedule for the GNU devroom.  Please see below for more
  information about the talks and the speakers.

  Time   Duration   Speaker  Title  
   

---+--++--
 13:00   40 min Bastien Guerry   Org-mode for Emacs : your life in 
plain text. 
 14:00   40 min Andy Wingo   Dynamic hacking with Guile.
   
 15:00   30 min Ole TangeGNU Parallel - the command line 
power tool.   
 15:40   30 min Ralf Wildenhues  GNU Autotools. 
   
 16:20   30 min Simon Josefsson  GNU Network Security Labyrinth.
   
 17:00   30 min Karsten Gerloff  Power, Freedom, Software.  
   
 17:40   30 min Matthias Kirschner   Non-free software advertisement -- 
presented by your government.  
 18:20   30 min Jose E. Marchesi GNU recutils: your data in plain 
text.

The talks 
~~

Org-mode for Emacs: your life in plain text 


   By Bastien Guerry.

   Org-mode is an Emacs mode for keeping notes, maintaining TODO
   lists, doing project planning and authoring with a fast and
   effective plain-text system.

   In this talk, I'll go through existing core features (the
   organizer, the exporters, the Babel library) and present examples
   of real use.  I will also list possible contributions (exporters,
   libraries to interact with online organizers, bug tracking tools,
   etc.) and mention hard problems to solve, the hardest one being to
   make Org suitable for collaborative project planning.
 
   Finally, I'll give an overview of Org's history and community, with
   some ideas on how to sustain this great project.

Dynamic hacking with Guile 
===

   By Andy Wingo.

   I'll start by giving my standard propaganda schtick about guile,
   and how it can make hacking GNU more like hacking lisp
   machines. I'll go on like that for about 15 minutes.
 
   In the latter 15 minutes I'll do some live hacking. I think what
   I'd like to show would be live-hacking a web application through
   emacs and geiser, in which I show what it's like to hack on a
   running application, what it's like to hack the web in sxml, how to
   make new bindings to C functions without restarting the process,
   things like that.

GNU Parallel - the command line power tool 
===

   By Ole Tange.

   Demo of what you can do with GNU Parallel - loosely based on
   [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpaiGYxkSuQ]

GNU Autotools 
==

   By Ralf Wildenhues.

   The GNU Autotools provide a source code build system portable to
   various different environments.  This talk reviews some of the
   recent developments and highlights a few tips and tricks for users.

GNU Network Security Labyrinth 
===

   By Simon Josefsson.

   I will talk about the network application security technologies
   SASL, 

Re: [Orgmode] GNU devroom at FOSDEM 2011

2011-01-11 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi everyone,

I will be at the meeting on Saturday, and I hope to meet some of you!
If you have an org-mode T-Shirt - I think it would be fun to wear
it - I will.

Most of all, I will be very pleased to finally meet Bastien in person.

- Carsten

On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:22 PM, Jose E. Marchesi wrote:



Hi.

Since Bastien is going to make a (quite interesting!) talk in the GNU
devroom, I am sending you the full information about the devroom,
including the schedule.


 GNU devroom at FOSDEM 2011
 ==


Hacking GNU at FOSDEM.

The Free and Open source Software Developers' European Meeting
(FOSDEM) is a two-day event organized by volunteers to promote the
widespread use of Free and Open Source software.

This year the GNU Project will be present with a development room.
The goal of the devroom is to promote discussion on the advancement of
the GNU coding standards and maintainers guidelines as well as the
packages implementing them, and strengthen the community of
maintainers and developers.

If you plan to join us at FOSDEM please tell us at fosdem2...@gnu.org.

Date and Location
~~

 *Date:* Saturday 5 and Sunday 6 February 2011.

 *GNU devroom date:* Saturday 5th February from 13:00 to 19:00

 *Location:* Brussels (Belgium)

Who's coming
~

 Registrations:

 - Jose E. Marchesi (GNU PDF, GNU recutils, GNU Ferret).
 - Karsten Gerloff (FSFE).
 - Brian Gough (GNU Scientific Library).
 - Simon Josefsson (SASL, Libidn, GSS, Shishi, GnuTLS).
 - Andy Wingo (Guile).
 - Ralf Wildenhues (GCC, Libtool, Autoconf).
 - Ole Tange (GNU Parallel).
 - Rodrigo Rodrigues da Silva. TBC.
 - Aleksander Morgado (GNU PDF).
 - Bastien Guerry (org-mode).
 - Giuseppe Scrivano (GNU myserver, Gnuzilla, wget).
 - Matthias Kirschner (FSFE).
 - Henrik Sandklef (GNU xnee).
 - Luca Saiou (GNU epsilon).

 TBC = to be confirmed

Schedule
~

 This is the schedule for the GNU devroom.  Please see below for more
 information about the talks and the speakers.

 Time   Duration   Speaker  Title
   ---+--+ 
+--
13:00   40 min Bastien Guerry   Org-mode for Emacs :  
your life in plain text.
14:00   40 min Andy Wingo   Dynamic hacking with  
Guile.
15:00   30 min Ole TangeGNU Parallel - the  
command line power tool.

15:40   30 min Ralf Wildenhues  GNU Autotools.
16:20   30 min Simon Josefsson  GNU Network Security  
Labyrinth.

17:00   30 min Karsten Gerloff  Power, Freedom, Software.
17:40   30 min Matthias Kirschner   Non-free software  
advertisement -- presented by your government.
18:20   30 min Jose E. Marchesi GNU recutils: your data  
in plain text.


The talks
~~

Org-mode for Emacs: your life in plain text


  By Bastien Guerry.

  Org-mode is an Emacs mode for keeping notes, maintaining TODO
  lists, doing project planning and authoring with a fast and
  effective plain-text system.

  In this talk, I'll go through existing core features (the
  organizer, the exporters, the Babel library) and present examples
  of real use.  I will also list possible contributions (exporters,
  libraries to interact with online organizers, bug tracking tools,
  etc.) and mention hard problems to solve, the hardest one being to
  make Org suitable for collaborative project planning.

  Finally, I'll give an overview of Org's history and community, with
  some ideas on how to sustain this great project.

Dynamic hacking with Guile
===

  By Andy Wingo.

  I'll start by giving my standard propaganda schtick about guile,
  and how it can make hacking GNU more like hacking lisp
  machines. I'll go on like that for about 15 minutes.

  In the latter 15 minutes I'll do some live hacking. I think what
  I'd like to show would be live-hacking a web application through
  emacs and geiser, in which I show what it's like to hack on a
  running application, what it's like to hack the web in sxml, how to
  make new bindings to C functions without restarting the process,
  things like that.

GNU Parallel - the command line power tool
===

  By Ole Tange.

  Demo of what you can do with GNU Parallel - loosely based on
  [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpaiGYxkSuQ]

GNU Autotools
==

  By Ralf Wildenhues.

  The GNU Autotools provide a source code build system portable to
  various different environments.  This talk reviews some of the
  recent developments and highlights a few tips and tricks for users.

GNU Network Security Labyrinth
===

  By Simon Josefsson.

  I will talk about the network application security technologies
  SASL, Kerberos, GSS-API and TLS on a general level.  I'll give an
  overview of 

Re: [Orgmode] Viper-mode + orgmode + emacs 23.xx on OSX, slowness in insert-mode

2011-01-11 Thread Michael Brand
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 21:47, Filippo A. Salustri salus...@ryerson.ca wrote:
 I haven't tried viper yet, but there's another version of emacs for OSX,
 Aquamacs.  Has anyone tried to check slowness in Aquamacs?

I expected Aquamacs just to be too different to Cocoa Emacs, but now I
am surprised: In a Mac OS X Aquamacs-Emacs-2.1 there is also exactly
the same viper insert slowness when in org-mode, disappearing with
fundamental-mode or with the ~/.viper from my last post.

In a Mac OS X Carbon Emacs 22.3.1, the last Mac OS X Carbon I think, I
can not observe such slowness. Possibly because it is not Mac OS X
Cocoa and/or it is not Emacs 23.

Michael

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Re: [Orgmode] Viper-mode + orgmode + emacs 23.xx on OSX, slowness in insert-mode

2011-01-11 Thread Filippo A. Salustri
Oh well.  It was an idea.
Cheers.
Fil

On 11 January 2011 17:38, Michael Brand michael.ch.br...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 21:47, Filippo A. Salustri salus...@ryerson.ca
 wrote:
  I haven't tried viper yet, but there's another version of emacs for OSX,
  Aquamacs.  Has anyone tried to check slowness in Aquamacs?

 I expected Aquamacs just to be too different to Cocoa Emacs, but now I
 am surprised: In a Mac OS X Aquamacs-Emacs-2.1 there is also exactly
 the same viper insert slowness when in org-mode, disappearing with
 fundamental-mode or with the ~/.viper from my last post.

 In a Mac OS X Carbon Emacs 22.3.1, the last Mac OS X Carbon I think, I
 can not observe such slowness. Possibly because it is not Mac OS X
 Cocoa and/or it is not Emacs 23.

 Michael

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[Orgmode] Re: Using org-agenda-filter-preset with or'd tags

2011-01-11 Thread John Tarbotton
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 08:22, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote:

 Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes:

  To use or logic to filter the agenda, I would recommend setting
  org-agenda-skip-function.
 
  (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
'((W Work Schedule
   ((agenda 
  ((org-agenda-skip-function '(org-agenda-skip-entry-if
 'notregexp :\\(@Work\\|critical\\):)))
   (org-agenda-ndays 1)))
(tags-todo @Work|critical)
 

 The above contains a typo. It should read:

 (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  '((W Work Schedule
 ((agenda 
  ((org-agenda-skip-function '(org-agenda-skip-entry-if
 'notregexp :\\(@Work\\|critical\\):))
   (org-agenda-ndays 1)))
  (tags-todo @Work|critical)

 Best,
 Matt


Thanks for the suggestion.  It did not completely work for me because the
@Work tag was inherited. However I think I can change my process a little to
make it work.

John
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[Orgmode] [babel] Painless integration of source blocks with language

2011-01-11 Thread Seth Burleigh
woops, what i actually meant is that noweb doesnt work. I was thinking about
it, and it might be possible to
(a) automatically create overlays around begin_src blocks using
auto-overlays
(b) have a custom syntax parser that parses noweb syntax in those blocks.
 Sort of like what is done for syntax highlighting.

Im gradually converting my code to literate programming and am just on the
verge of splitting up my one clojure ns to  one-block org file into multiple
blocks per ns, so i will soon need the noweb functionality. When i get it
ill make sure to post and update!
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[Orgmode] Re: Help with migrating blog to org-mode format

2011-01-11 Thread Myriam Abramson

Thanks! that's what I was looking for. 

   myriam

Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes:

 Myriam Abramson mabram...@gmail.com writes:

 Each topic in a blog is a TODO task and the date is inserted when the
 task is DONE. I'm planning to read from my xml blog and write topics
 simply as * DONE mytopic ...  but how can I get the publication date
 in org to get CLOSED: date on the next line? 

 The xml of my blog is something like that: 

 title type='text' my title/title
 content type='html' my content/content
 published2003-10-22T18:27:00.000-04:00/published


 After you've parsed the xml and retrieved the date string, you can
 convert to an org CLOSED timestamp with something like this:

 (format-time-string CLOSED: [%Y-%m-%d %H:%M] (date-to-time 
 2003-10-22T18:27:00.000-04:00))

 ...which returns...

 CLOSED: [2003-10-22 14:27]

 (The time zone parsing may need some adjustment.)

 HTH,
 Matt

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[Orgmode] org-agenda-show-current-time-in-grid and automatic refresh

2011-01-11 Thread Kiwon Um
Dear org users,

The recent function for showing current time in agenda view is quite
cool. I have a question about it. When the agenda view is being shown,
is there any way to refresh it automatically so that makes the current
time line always recent?

Thanks.

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[Orgmode] Re: Help with migrating blog to org-mode format

2011-01-11 Thread Matt Lundin
Myriam Abramson mabram...@gmail.com writes:

 Thanks! that's what I was looking for. 

myriam

 Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes:

 (format-time-string CLOSED: [%Y-%m-%d %H:%M] (date-to-time 
 2003-10-22T18:27:00.000-04:00))

 ...which returns...

 CLOSED: [2003-10-22 14:27]

 (The time zone parsing may need some adjustment.)

Oops. I forgot the day of week.

--8---cut here---start-8---
(format-time-string CLOSED: [%Y-%m-%d %a %H:%M]
(date-to-time 2003-10-22T18:27:00.000-04:00))
--8---cut here---end---8---

CLOSED: [2003-10-22 Wed 14:27]

Best,
Matt

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Re: [Orgmode] org-agenda-show-current-time-in-grid and automatic refresh

2011-01-11 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Kiwon,

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:23:48 +0900
Kiwon Um um.ki...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear org users,
 
 The recent function for showing current time in agenda view is quite
 cool. I have a question about it. When the agenda view is being shown,
 is there any way to refresh it automatically so that makes the current
 time line always recent?
 

I have thought about that, I even worked up a small minor mode for that
(attached). But it doesn't seem to work very well. It updates only the
first time but fails subsequently. I am still a lisp newbie. If someone
could guide me, I could give it another try.

Right now it only updates if any of the agenda file buffers change but I
would also like to put a timer. Then if no agenda files have been edited
in a while (say 5 mins) the agenda buffer is refreshed anyway. But I
don't know how to do that. Any suggestions would be welcome.

 Thanks.
 

Thanks

 --
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From 82a240bd0af7ac4e7e5935bf38892972f4c7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:17:08 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] Implement org-agenda-refresh-mode minor mode

* lisp/org-agenda.el: (org-agenda-refresh-mode) New minor
  mode to auto-refresh the agenda buffer
  (org-agenda-refresh-changed) The function used to refresh
  the Agenda buffer

Issue: updates only the first time.
---
 lisp/org-agenda.el |   25 +
 1 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/org-agenda.el b/lisp/org-agenda.el
index bf36758..d5f11eb 100644
--- a/lisp/org-agenda.el
+++ b/lisp/org-agenda.el
@@ -6780,6 +6780,31 @@ if it was hidden in the outline.
 (org-back-to-heading)
 (recenter n)))
 
+(defvar org-agenda-refresh-mode)
+(defvar org-agenda-refresh-changed-buffers nil)
+
+(define-minor-mode org-agenda-refresh-mode
+  Turn on refresh for Agenda buffer.
+  nil nil nil
+  (unless (derived-mode-p 'org-agenda-mode)
+(error Not in an Org Agenda buffer))
+  (frame-or-buffer-changed-p 'org-agenda-refresh-changed-buffers)
+  (add-hook 'post-command-hook 'org-agenda-refresh-changed))
+
+(defun org-agenda-refresh-changed ()
+  Update Org Agenda buffer.
+  (interactive)
+  (when (frame-or-buffer-changed-p 'org-agenda-refresh-changed-buffers)
+(let* ((agenda-buf (get-buffer *Org Agenda*)))
+  (dolist (buf (org-buffer-list 'agenda))
+	(ignore-errors
+	  (if (and (buffer-modified-p buf)
+		   (with-current-buffer buf (eq 'org-mode major-mode)))
+	  (with-current-buffer agenda-buf
+		(when (and org-agenda-refresh-mode
+			   (derived-mode-p 'org-agenda-mode))
+		  (org-agenda-redo)
+
 (defvar org-agenda-cycle-counter nil)
 (defun org-agenda-cycle-show (optional n)
   Show the current entry in another window, with default settings.
-- 
1.7.3.4

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[Orgmode] Re: org-agenda-show-current-time-in-grid and automatic refresh

2011-01-11 Thread Detlef Steuer
Hi!

Just in case you missed the simple g in agenda view to update the
view with a single keypress.
Not automatic, but nearly.
 
It took me a long time to discover these single key commands, so may
be someone else finds a reminder useful, too.

Detlef 



On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:23:48 +0900
Kiwon Um um.ki...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear org users,
 
 The recent function for showing current time in agenda view is quite
 cool. I have a question about it. When the agenda view is being shown,
 is there any way to refresh it automatically so that makes the current
 time line always recent?
 
 Thanks.
 
 --
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