Re: [O] Please test the new Makefile

2011-12-25 Thread Takaaki ISHIKAWA
Hi. Achim,

Thank you for your kind explanations.
I learned a lot from you :)

> I opted for this behaviour to align more closely to GNU convention and to 
> avoid any surprising behaviour, but it is easy to make the default target 
> "all" instead of "help".

I think many Org users are familiar to the previous
installation procedure by "make" not "make all",
and some users wrote it in their blog, Org manual [*1] too.
Don't you think this change has a wide impact for them?
But it's just a concern to me :)

[*1] http://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html


Re: [O] Inconsisent typesetting of commands in the manual

2011-12-25 Thread Takaaki ISHIKAWA
Dear Elias and all,

> In section 2.7 on p. 14--15 in the full manual for Org-mode the key commands 
> is typeset in serif while all the other key commands in the manual is typeset 
> in mono space fonts.

I think this is caused by "@table @asis" at L.1645 in doc/org.texi.
When I change it to "@table @kbd", it looks good.

But my suggestion is that the @table section is separated as follows:

*** 1664,1670 
  variable @code{org-M-RET-may-split-line}.}.  If this command is executed
  @emph{before item's body}, the new item is created @emph{before} the current
  one.
! diff@kindex M-S-@key{RET}
  @item M-S-@key{RET}
  Insert a new item with a checkbox (@pxref{Checkboxes}).
  @kindex S-@key{down}
--- 1664,1673 
  variable @code{org-M-RET-may-split-line}.}.  If this command is executed
  @emph{before item's body}, the new item is created @emph{before} the current
  one.
! @end table
! 
! @table @kbd
! @kindex M-S-@key{RET}
  @item M-S-@key{RET}
  Insert a new item with a checkbox (@pxref{Checkboxes}).
  @kindex S-@key{down}


Best regards,
Takaaki Ishikawa


Re: [O] [DEV] Package org-find-timestamps on worg is now deprecated !

2011-12-25 Thread Marc-Oliver Ihm

Am 20.12.2011 01:12, schrieb Bernt Hansen:

Marc-Oliver Ihm  writes:


There is probably some overlap here, but I do not see a way to find the 
timstamps of CLOSED
entries with the agenda. So the agenda does not show what you have 
accomplished, only what
is still open.

Another point are maybe inactive timestamps, which I use a lot to simply mark 
my notes with
the current date. I do not know, if they readily show up in the agenda.


Try this in the daily/weekly agenda view:

C-u l to show clock logs, state changes, and closed time stamps [ to show 
inactive
timestamps

HTH, Bernt




Hi Bernt, Hi list,

Now I have checked the commands available in the agenda and you are right: The 
agenda already
contains excellent functionality to do nearly all of the things, my package 
does.

Therefore I deprecated it on Worg by adding this line:


This module is now deprecated, because it mostly duplicates functionality 
already provided
by the agenda; see the list of agenda commands and especially 'v l' for viewing 
logbook
entries, 'v [' for showing inactive timestamps and 'j' to display the agenda 
for a specified
date.


Thanx again for pointing this out !

Before polishing my next package for publishing, I will first ask the mailing list for any 
pointers to prior art :-)


with kind regards, Marc-Oliver Ihm



[O] Inconsisent typesetting of commands in the manual

2011-12-25 Thread Elias Assarsson

Hello,

In section 2.7 on p. 14--15 in the full manual for Org-mode the key 
commands is typeset in serif while all the other key commands in the 
manual is typeset in mono space fonts.


Regards,
Elias



Re: [O] Fw: [REQUEST] Microsecond timestamps

2011-12-25 Thread Carsten Dominik
:) this is nice!

- Carsten

On 23.12.2011, at 22:23, Christian Moe wrote:

> I'm forwarding this to the list as it was sent only to my mailbox by mistake. 
> -- Christian
> 
> -
> 
> 
> Dear Orgers,
> 
> I would like to make a feature request for microsecond timestamps.
> 
> Since I often find myself making a list and checking it twice, I think the 
> excellent Org mode would be a great way to schedule my deliveries. However, 
> the existing timestamp functionality just won't cut it for me.
> 
> As my typical use case involves visiting over 2.5 billion homes in 48 hours, 
> I need to be able to schedule each TODO to microsecond accuracy. Please 
> consider developing this feature.
> 
> Meanwhile, I'm happy to announce experimental Org support in our orders 
> department -- beta testers welcome! For the trial period we will give push 
> access to everyone on the Org mailing list who's been a good little girl or 
> boy all year. (So be good, for goodness sake!) Just do
> 
> git clone git://north.pole/littlehelpersrepo.git
> 
> Then simply add your items to wishlist.org, check that they're 
> cross-referenced to an up-to-date address in contacts.org, commit your 
> changes and push.
> 
> Merry Christmas, everybody! Ho ho ho!
> 
> Santa
> 




Re: [O] Please test the new Makefile

2011-12-25 Thread ASSI

[sorry if you get this twice
 - GMane seems to have trouble sending lately]

Am 22.12.2011 16:06, schrieb Takaaki ISHIKAWA:

I think "make" and "make all" have the same effect usually.


Often they do, but GNU says that a simple "make" should behave like 
"make help".  I think this is appropriate for org mode since there is no 
INSTALL file that explains what to do and in most cases one would have 
to put some things in local.mk before running "make install".



In the new Makefile of org-mode, however, "make" is used
for displaying options of make command.
Is this familiar to all?


I opted for this behaviour to align more closely to GNU convention and 
to avoid any surprising behaviour, but it is easy to make the default 
target "all" instead of "help".



For example, GNU Emacs doesn't require "make all", just "make".


That's not exactly comparable since the Makefile for Emacs is the result 
of ./configure, so for Emacs make is just another tool used in a larger 
build system.



--
Achim.

(on the road :-)



Re: [O] Fw: [REQUEST] Microsecond timestamps

2011-12-25 Thread Bastien
Christian Moe  writes:

> I'm forwarding this to the list as it was sent only to my mailbox by
> mistake. -- Christian

:)

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] LaTeX is typeset inconsequently

2011-12-25 Thread Bastien
Bastien  writes:

> I just fixed this for the org.texi manual and will fix it for the
> orgguide.texi later on.

Done.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] LaTeX is typeset inconsequently

2011-12-25 Thread Bastien
Hi Elias,

Elias Assarsson  writes:

> In both the full and the compact manual (Release 7.8.02) for Org-mode
> "LaTeX" is typeset inconsequently.

I just fixed this for the org.texi manual and will fix it for the
orgguide.texi later on.

Thanks for mentioning this!

-- 
 Bastien