Re: [O] Git mirrors

2012-05-22 Thread Nick Dokos
François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote:

 Hi, Org people.
 
 GitHub has a few niceties, like easy forking, pull requests and such.  I
 notice https://github.com/jwiegley/org-mode in particular, which does
 not seem to be itself a fork of another GitHub repository, so I presume
 it forked directly from the official Git site for Org mode, which itself
 does not provide the same collaboration facilities as GitHub.
 
 The GitHub home page for John Wiegly says the org-mode project was
 updated two weeks ago, so I suspect it lags on the official Git site.  A
 message on the mailing list speaks of this repository as the home for
 Org-X, so I also suspect this fork is not genuine, and not a way to get
 on GitHub the real, pure, Org mode.
 

It does not make any difference from where you get it. You can mirror
the org git repo from orgmode.org on github if you want: nothing is
stopping you. Then use the github collaboration tools.

 In the Org project, how commits are usually transmitted?  I would not
 think maintainers are pulling our various repositories in theirs to then
 consider cherry picking, and it would require that we all set up Git
 servers.  We could use GitHub as a way to avoid servers, but it feel
 strange using GitHub to communicate with Org maintainers while they do
 not themselves choose to keep an official mirror of Org on GitHub.
 

That's up to each maintainer: they can apply patches sent as email, or
they can cherry-pick commits from a remote branch if they want.

There is nothing strange about using github to communicate with the
maintainers: set up your clone, create a branch with your modification
and let the maintainers know about it. That's how many linux maintainers
did things while kernel.org was down last year. All that changed for
Linus was that he pulled from a different repo.

OTOH, some maintainers would prefer emailed patches instead; some
wouldn't care one way or the other. If they don't want to touch your
repo, you can't make them, so the best thing to do is ask which is their
preferred method. Or do as Bernt Hansen was doing: submit a patch in
email and also point to a branch that contains that patch (and that
patch alone) on top of a clone of the official git repo. This last
method has the advantage that it tells the maintainer the exact state of
the tree when the patch was applied, which allows problematic merges
to be resolved more easily (see Linus's comments in

 https://plus.google.com/111049168280159033135/posts/Xmycxn7VwHV

for some details - but that's useful mostly for maintainers, not
for patch contributors; otoh, it's always nice to know more than
the absolute minimum necessary.)

 Commits are going to be sent as email apply-able patches?  Maybe this is
 all documented somewhere already, and I just did not read enough?
 

``Documented'' is probably too strong a word, but once you've been on
the ML for a while, you start discerning the customs of the people
living there: emailed patches is indeed the standard way (not least
because patchwork captures them, so they don't get lost in some old
email thread).

Nick

Disclaimer: I'm not a maintainer, so if I've got things wrong, I hope
one of them will correct me.



[O] Presentation on Org-mode at Dunkerque (France)

2012-05-22 Thread Fabrice Niessen
Hello,

Just to tell you that I will make a presentation on Org-mode during the LaTeX
day in Dunkerque (FR) on Wed 13th June 2012.

Here is my summary in English for the 1:30 presentation:

You wish to write high-quality documents or presentations, whose
successive versions are easy to compare (thanks to CVS, SVN or Git, for
example)? LATEX is un-miss-able.

You find, nevertheless, the syntax very heavy to write tables or to handle
nested lists? You have problems convincing your colleagues to go the LaTeX
route?

Come then discover org-mode (http://orgmode.org/). Writing a document or a
presentation will become as simple as an writing an email. And you inherit
new possibilites (of which outlining, status and tags on the sections, as
well as the advanced search functions are some examples that will be
looked at).

It will be more focused to the LaTeX exporter, of course, but I will try to
give more incentive for making the switch!

My slides will be publicly available (first in French, in English as well if
these are judged as worthing it ;-)).

For subscribing to the event (limited to 100 seats), see details at:

http://stage-latex-gte.univ-littoral.fr/

Best regards,
Fabrice

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Re: [O] [Feature Request] org-mobile edit:add nodes

2012-05-22 Thread Henning Weiss
Hi,

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote:

 Henning Weiss hdwe...@gmail.com writes:

  it turns out that there are a couple of problems with that particular
  patch. Some issues have already been fixed with the help of someone
  else from the mobileorg community, but more work is required. As soon
  as it is functional (and hopefully stable) I will post a new patch.

 Please do -- thanks for the follow up!

 --
  Bastien


I have refined the edit nodes patch. Aaron Peromsik has helped me with
developing and testing it. He hasn't reported any problems with it and I
have been using it for a couple of weeks now without experiencing any
problems.

According to the contribution guidelines this patch doesn't qualify as a
TINYCHANGE. Assuming this patch qualifies for inclusion, do I need to fill
out the FSF copyright assignment form?

Henning


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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.8.10

2012-05-22 Thread Russell Adams
Bastien  team,

I must applaud you once again. I just refreshed my setup, jumping from
7.01 to 7.8.10 and Org didn't skip a beat.

Fantastic work!

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:04:31AM +0200, Bastien wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I released Org 7.8.10, a bugfix-only release.

   http://orgmode.org/org-7.8.10.zip
   http://orgmode.org/org-7.8.10.tar.gz
   http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html

 This release will be the one in Emacs 24.1.

 (Mh.. Does it sound like I'm repeating myself?)

 As usual, enjoy!

 --
  Bastien




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[O] makefile regression

2012-05-22 Thread Greg Troxel

For a long time, I've been updating org from git every week or two via:

  update-org () {
  (cd $HOME/SOFTWARE/EMACS/org-mode  git pull  make)
  }

and I have emacs pointed at that directory.   This is on NetBSD where
make is BSD make.

Today, I updated again and got:

  make: /home/gdt/SOFTWARE/EMACS/org-mode/Makefile line 6: Need an operator
  make: /home/gdt/SOFTWARE/EMACS/org-mode/Makefile line 87: Need an operator
  make: Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

  make: stopped in /home/gdt/SOFTWARE/EMACS/org-mode

and it seems recent changes have required beyond-POSIX-make features.

This seems unfortunate; I don't understand why building org has to be so
complicated.  If it is complicated, it seems best to use
autoconf/automake, which already have worked out most of the portability
issues.

At the very least a dependency on GNU make should be documented, if that
is indeed an intentional decision by the community.   (I haven't seen
any discussion, but I confess to not quite keeping up with with
emacs-orgmode traffic.)

Greg



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[O] breakage

2012-05-22 Thread Nick Dokos
Pulling just now I get:

,
| $ git checkout master
| Switched to branch 'master'
| Your branch is behind 'origin/master' by 15 commits, and can be 
fast-forwarded.
| 
| $ tsocks make update
| git remote update
| Fetching origin
| Fetching github
| Fetching org-odt
| git pull
| Updating 946230b..4721052
| Fast-forward
|  UTILITIES/org-fixup.el   |   66 ---
|  contrib/lisp/org-e-ascii.el  |   86 -
|  contrib/lisp/org-e-html.el   |7 +--
|  contrib/lisp/org-e-latex.el  |7 +--
|  contrib/lisp/org-e-odt.el|7 +--
|  contrib/lisp/org-element.el  |   16 +++---
|  contrib/lisp/org-export.el   |  111 ++---
|  default.mk   |   41 +++---
|  lisp/org-agenda.el   |4 +-
|  lisp/org-bbdb.el |2 +-
|  lisp/org-bibtex.el   |   14 +++---
|  lisp/org-clock.el|4 +-
|  lisp/org-exp.el  |2 +-
|  lisp/org-publish.el  |2 +-
|  lisp/org.el  |   37 +++--
|  targets.mk   |   10 ++--
|  testing/lisp/test-org-element.el |8 ++-
|  testing/lisp/test-org-export.el  |  109 +
|  18 files changed, 291 insertions(+), 242 deletions(-)
| make -C doc info
| make[1]: Entering directory `/home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/doc'
| make[1]: Nothing to be done for `info'.
| make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/doc'
| make -C doc clean
| make[1]: Entering directory `/home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/doc'
| rm -f org *.pdf *.html *_letter.tex org-version.inc \
| *.aux *.cp *.cps *.dvi *.fn *.fns *.ky *.kys *.pg *.pgs \
| *.toc *.tp *.tps *.vr *.vrs *.log *.html *.ps
| make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/doc'
| make -C doc all;  make -C etc all;  make -C lisp all;
| make[1]: Entering directory `/home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/doc'
| org-version: 7.8.10 (release_7.8.10-582-g472105)
| makeinfo --no-split org.texi -o org
| make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/doc'
| make[1]: Entering directory `/home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/etc'
| make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
| make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/etc'
| make[1]: Entering directory `/home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp'
| rm -f org-version.el org-install.el org-version.elc org-install.elc
| org-version: 7.8.10 (release_7.8.10-582-g472105)
| Loading /home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp/org-compat.el (source)...
| Loading /home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/UTILITIES/org-fixup.el (source)...
| Saving file /home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp/org-version.el...
| Loading vc-git...
| Wrote /home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp/org-version.el
| org-install: 7.8.10 (release_7.8.10-582-g472105)
| Loading /home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp/org-compat.el (source)...
| Loading /home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/UTILITIES/org-fixup.el (source)...
| Wrong number of arguments: (lambda nil (with-temp-buffer 
(set-visited-file-name org-install.el) (insert ;;; org-install.el --- 
autogenerated file, do not edit
| ;;
| ;;; Code:
| ) (let ((files (directory-files default-directory nil 
^\\(org\\|ob\\)\\(-.*\\)?\\.el$))) (mapc (lambda (f) (generate-file-autoloads 
f)) files)) (insert 
| (provide 'org-install)
| ) (insert 
| ;; Local Variables:
| ;; version-control: never
| ) (insert ;; no-byte-compile: t
| ;; no-update-autoloads: t
| ) (insert ;; coding: utf-8
| ;; End:
| ;;; org-install.el ends here
| ) (toggle-read-only 0) (save-buffer))), 1
| make[1]: *** [org-install.el] Error 255
| make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp'
| make: *** [all] Error 2
| $
`


Nick



[O] How to get Wrap at Window Edge in org-mode?

2012-05-22 Thread Marius Hofert
Hi,

I am working with Xubuntu 12.04 on a MacBook Air (4,1) with org-mode version
7.8.09. I use the following code to get Wrap at Window Edge in
org-agenda-mode:

,
| (add-hook 'org-agenda-mode-hook
| '(lambda()
|(if truncate-lines (toggle-truncate-lines -1))
|))
`

How can I get Wrap at Window Edge in all .org files? The only idea I found is
https://plus.google.com/u/0/113859563190964307534/posts/RVBN7KvQtB7 but that
unfortunately did not work.

Cheers,

Marius



Re: [O] How to get Wrap at Window Edge in org-mode?

2012-05-22 Thread Russell Adams
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 05:49:00PM +0200, Marius Hofert wrote:
 Hi,

 I am working with Xubuntu 12.04 on a MacBook Air (4,1) with org-mode version
 7.8.09. I use the following code to get Wrap at Window Edge in
 org-agenda-mode:

 ,
 | (add-hook 'org-agenda-mode-hook
 |   '(lambda()
 |  (if truncate-lines (toggle-truncate-lines -1))
 |  ))
 `

 How can I get Wrap at Window Edge in all .org files? The only idea I found 
 is
 https://plus.google.com/u/0/113859563190964307534/posts/RVBN7KvQtB7 but that
 unfortunately did not work.

 Cheers,

 Marius


This will set wrapping globally from your .emacs file:

(setq-default truncate-lines nil)



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Re: [O] README.org on github

2012-05-22 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Tom,

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Tom Regner t...@goochesa.de wrote:
 Hi,

 suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes:

 I see source blocks formated as example blocks. Is that the same as you
 are seeing? If so, I wouldn't call that support for source blocks. I
 would expect to see syntax highlighting like pure source files on
 GitHub.

 org-ruby is in it's current form not capable to do that, but it's
 currently actively developed [fn:1] (maybe not for org-mode standards :-D, 
 the last
 commit was 8 days ago) and there are a few items on the todo list.

 And all shortcomings aside, an update on github/markups side would at
 least make the usage of org-documents on github bearable.


Sorry if my comments seemed like a complaint/gripe. When an org-mode
user says, feature bla is supported they usually mean the whole
thing, with all the bells and whistles (e.g. source block would imply
with syntax highlighting). So I just wanted to clarify it was
incorrect to say source blocks are supported.

 Only sufficient demand for org-documents will foster betterment I guess.


Yes I realise that. I have never interacted with GitHub staff for
feature requests. Being a long time org-mode user (post-6.33, that's
ages in org years :-p), maybe I should give that a try.

-- 
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Open source is the future. It sets us free.



Re: [O] README.org on github

2012-05-22 Thread Puneeth Chaganti
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:24 PM, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Tom,

 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Tom Regner t...@goochesa.de wrote:
 Hi,

 suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes:

 I see source blocks formated as example blocks. Is that the same as you
 are seeing? If so, I wouldn't call that support for source blocks. I
 would expect to see syntax highlighting like pure source files on
 GitHub.

 org-ruby is in it's current form not capable to do that, but it's
 currently actively developed [fn:1] (maybe not for org-mode standards :-D, 
 the last
 commit was 8 days ago) and there are a few items on the todo list.

 And all shortcomings aside, an update on github/markups side would at
 least make the usage of org-documents on github bearable.


 Sorry if my comments seemed like a complaint/gripe. When an org-mode
 user says, feature bla is supported they usually mean the whole
 thing, with all the bells and whistles (e.g. source block would imply
 with syntax highlighting). So I just wanted to clarify it was
 incorrect to say source blocks are supported.

Yes, you are right.  Apologies for overlooking that.  But, this
feature shouldn't be too hard to add using albino or pygments.rb.  I
tried poking around org-ruby's code a little bit, but hit a roadblock,
which was a bit too much for my limited ruby skills.  I'll open an
issue on org-ruby and see where it goes.

 Only sufficient demand for org-documents will foster betterment I guess.


 Yes I realise that. I have never interacted with GitHub staff for
 feature requests. Being a long time org-mode user (post-6.33, that's
 ages in org years :-p), maybe I should give that a try.

I've tweeted to them at least a couple of times (in the past few
months) regarding this, but haven't yet got any response from them.
May be someone should send an email to supp...@github.com.  I got back
replies for other things in about a week or so, on email.  In general,
GitHub staff seem like a nice bunch of people to me.

Thanks!
Puneeth



Re: [O] How to get Wrap at Window Edge in org-mode?

2012-05-22 Thread Marius Hofert
Dear Russell,

I thought so, too, but it does not properly wrap standard .org files (including
sections etc.). Instead of Wrap at Window Edge, I still obtain Truncate Long 
Lines
mode in .org files.

Cheers,

Marius



Re: [O] makefile regression

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
Hi Greg,

Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com writes:

 For a long time, I've been updating org from git every week or two via:

   update-org () {
   (cd $HOME/SOFTWARE/EMACS/org-mode  git pull  make)
   }

 and I have emacs pointed at that directory.   This is on NetBSD where
 make is BSD make.

 Today, I updated again and got:

   make: /home/gdt/SOFTWARE/EMACS/org-mode/Makefile line 6: Need an operator
   make: /home/gdt/SOFTWARE/EMACS/org-mode/Makefile line 87: Need an operator
   make: Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

   make: stopped in /home/gdt/SOFTWARE/EMACS/org-mode

 and it seems recent changes have required beyond-POSIX-make features.

 This seems unfortunate; I don't understand why building org has to be so
 complicated.  

It does *not* have to be.

 If it is complicated, it seems best to use
 autoconf/automake, which already have worked out most of the portability
 issues.

 At the very least a dependency on GNU make should be documented, if that
 is indeed an intentional decision by the community.   (I haven't seen
 any discussion, but I confess to not quite keeping up with with
 emacs-orgmode traffic.)

I will let Achim reply to your issue here.  I agree we should stick to
something as simple and portable as possible.  We will document all the
changes in this area for the 7.9 release.

Best,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] breakage

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
Hi Nick,

Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:

 | Loading /home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp/org-compat.el (source)...
 | Loading /home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/UTILITIES/org-fixup.el (source)...
 | Wrong number of arguments: (lambda nil (with-temp-buffer
 | (set-visited-file-name org-install.el) (insert ;;; org-install.el
 | --- autogenerated file, do not edit

Can you run (org-make-org-install) and perhaps instrument 
the function?

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.8.10

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
Russell Adams rlad...@adamsinfoserv.com writes:

 Bastien  team,

 I must applaud you once again. I just refreshed my setup, jumping from
 7.01 to 7.8.10 and Org didn't skip a beat.

 Fantastic work!

Thanks!  

A team work really -- and glad to see old-timers still using Org :)

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] How to get Wrap at Window Edge in org-mode?

2012-05-22 Thread Russell Adams
The code segment you posed earlier with the lambda statement may
override that behavior. Have you tried removing that and restarting
emacs?

On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 06:14:07PM +0200, Marius Hofert wrote:
 Dear Russell,

 I thought so, too, but it does not properly wrap standard .org files 
 (including
 sections etc.). Instead of Wrap at Window Edge, I still obtain Truncate Long 
 Lines
 mode in .org files.

 Cheers,

 Marius



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[O] Comments break lists when exporting to TeX

2012-05-22 Thread Daniel Schoepe
Hi,

while trying to include a source file in a list element via #+INCLUDE, I
discovered the following behavior: A comment between two list elements breaks
the list into two lists when exporting. For example:

* Test
  - This is a list element.
# This isn't.
  - This is another list element.

Becomes after exporting to .tex:

..
\begin{itemize}
\item This is a list element.
\end{itemize}
\begin{itemize}
\item This is another list element.
\end{itemize}
..

I think it makes sense for comments to have no effect on this (i.e. it
should behave the same during export as if it wasn't there), so I
consider this a bug.

This has the unfortunate side effect of no longer being able to include
a source file using #+INCLUDE while preserving its indentation in the
resulting PDF (as using #+BEGIN_SRC .. #+END_SRC would).

Cheers,
Daniel


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Re: [O] How to get Wrap at Window Edge in org-mode?

2012-05-22 Thread Marius Hofert

Dear Russell,

thanks for helping.

Yes. I even removed ~/.emacs.desktop and restarted. Still, a standard 
.org file is shown in Truncate Long Lines mode instead of (the overall 
emacs default) Wrap at Window Edge.


Cheers,

Marius


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Re: [O] How to get Wrap at Window Edge in org-mode?

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
Hi Marius,

Marius Hofert marius.hof...@math.ethz.ch writes:

 I am working with Xubuntu 12.04 on a MacBook Air (4,1) with org-mode version
 7.8.09. I use the following code to get Wrap at Window Edge in
 org-agenda-mode:

 ,
 | (add-hook 'org-agenda-mode-hook
 |   '(lambda()
 |  (if truncate-lines (toggle-truncate-lines -1))
 |  ))
 `

 How can I get Wrap at Window Edge in all .org files?

(setq org-startup-truncated nil)

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] How to get Wrap at Window Edge in org-mode?

2012-05-22 Thread Marius Hofert

Hi Bastien,

Many thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for!

Cheers,

Marius

05/22/2012 07:21 PM, Bastien wrote:

Hi Marius,

Marius Hofertmarius.hof...@math.ethz.ch  writes:


I am working with Xubuntu 12.04 on a MacBook Air (4,1) with org-mode version
7.8.09. I use the following code to get Wrap at Window Edge in
org-agenda-mode:

,
| (add-hook 'org-agenda-mode-hook
| '(lambda()
|(if truncate-lines (toggle-truncate-lines -1))
|))
`

How can I get Wrap at Window Edge in all .org files?

(setq org-startup-truncated nil)

HTH,






Re: [O] [Feature Request] org-mobile edit:add nodes

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
Hi Henning,

Henning Weiss hdwe...@gmail.com writes:

 I have refined the edit nodes patch. Aaron Peromsik has helped me
 with developing and testing it. He hasn't reported any problems with
 it and I have been using it for a couple of weeks now without
 experiencing any problems.

Thanks.  Can someone else test this patch?  I'm not using org-mobile.el.

 According to the contribution guidelines this patch doesn't qualify
 as a TINYCHANGE. Assuming this patch qualifies for inclusion, do I
 need to fill out the FSF copyright assignment form?

Yes, please do so.

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Missing on worg

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
Hi François,

François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca writes:

 Page http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-drill.html refers to
 inexisting http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/spanish.html.  There is
 no spanish.org in the Org mode distribution either.  Maybe here?

https://bitbucket.org/eeeickythump/org-drill/src/bc740455003b/spanish.org

Indeed, fixed.

Would you like to help us fix this by doing it yourself?

It's just a matter of sending me (or Jason) your public key,
we will then give your directions.

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] breakage

2012-05-22 Thread Nick Dokos
Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote:

 Hi Nick,
 
 Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:
 
  | Loading /home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp/org-compat.el (source)...
  | Loading /home/nick/src/emacs/org/org-mode/UTILITIES/org-fixup.el 
  (source)...
  | Wrong number of arguments: (lambda nil (with-temp-buffer
  | (set-visited-file-name org-install.el) (insert ;;; org-install.el
  | --- autogenerated file, do not edit
 
 Can you run (org-make-org-install) and perhaps instrument 
 the function?
 

I can't reproduce it any more - not sure what changed though.
To quote Emily Litella: ``Never mind...'' 

Nick



[O] stop comments and weblinks from being coloured and names of directories from being italised, /etc/

2012-05-22 Thread Enda
Can there be an #+OPTION to stop comments and weblinks from being coloured and 
names of directories from being italised, /etc/


Best wishes,

Enda


Re: [O] stop comments and weblinks from being coloured and names of directories from being italised, /etc/

2012-05-22 Thread Nick Dokos
Enda enda...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Can there be an #+OPTION to stop comments and weblinks from being
 coloured and names of directories from being italised, /etc/
 

In what context?

Nick



Re: [O] stop comments and weblinks from being coloured and names of directories from being italised, /etc/

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:

 Enda enda...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Can there be an #+OPTION to stop comments and weblinks from being
 coloured and names of directories from being italised, /etc/

 In what context?

I guess the OP wants to hit M-x customize-face RET on comments and
links. 

2 cents,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] stop comments and weblinks from being coloured and names of directories from being italised, /etc/

2012-05-22 Thread Nick Dokos
Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote:

 Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:
 
  Enda enda...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Can there be an #+OPTION to stop comments and weblinks from being
  coloured and names of directories from being italised, /etc/
 
  In what context?
 
 I guess the OP wants to hit M-x customize-face RET on comments and
 links. 
 
 2 cents,
 

Maybe - but maybe he is talking about export. If I had a bit more time
and energy, I might have ranted about having to administer a third degree
interrogation in order to elicit the relevant information, but I don't
have either, so I won't :-) Guessing is all we can do at this point.

BTW, we now have four cents between us.

Nick




Re: [O] stop comments and weblinks from being coloured and names of directories from being italised, /etc/

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:

 BTW, we now have four cents between us.

Yes -- one day I'll count how much money has been spent in emails 
that never got answered back :)

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] stop comments and weblinks from being coloured and names of directories from being italised, /etc/

2012-05-22 Thread Samuel Wales
I think comments don't get exported, so it must be just regular Org?

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Re: [O] stop comments and weblinks from being coloured and names of directories from being italised, /etc/

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes:

 I think comments don't get exported, so it must be just regular Org?

Indeed.  Hence my guess.

Thanks Samuel!  We spend cents, you spread wisdom :)

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Language identifiers

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
Hi François,

François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca writes:

 A good way to study the
 new exporter's opinion would be for me to write a Python parser which
 yields exactly the same analysis.  That parser could usefully replace
 many Python scripts here which decipher Org files according to my mental
 fuzzy approximations of its syntax.

You can start from this existing python parser:
  http://members.optusnet.com.au/~charles57/GTD/orgnode.html

It's referenced here:
  http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tools/index.html

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Git mirrors

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:

 OTOH, some maintainers would prefer emailed patches instead;

FWIW, I prefer patches sent to this list for two reasons: they get
quickly tested by many people (i.e. faster than external branches) 
and bacause patches get caught on the patchwork.  Even if i don't
use the patchwork server to apply patches, I use it as a watchlist.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] is there a way to have =var_name= in table

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca writes:

Emphasis and monospace
--

You can make words *bold*, /italic/, _underlined_, `=code=' and
`~verbatim~', and, if you must, `+strike-through+'.  Text in the code
and verbatim string is not processed for Org mode specific syntax; it
is exported verbatim.

 Is there any functional (or semantic?) difference between =code= and
 ~verbatim~?  

For the current LaTeX exporter, Yes.

 Could I use any to avoid escaping problems of the other?
 (A bit like ' versus  in some languages?)

  This is =co%de=.
  This is ~verb%atim~.

gets exported as

  This is \texttt{co\%de}.
  This is \verb~verb%atim~.

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] README.org on github

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes:

 Only sufficient demand for org-documents will foster betterment I guess.

 Yes I realise that. I have never interacted with GitHub staff for
 feature requests. Being a long time org-mode user (post-6.33, that's
 ages in org years :-p), maybe I should give that a try.

I will too -- I'm a shy user of github but I'm there and will try to
push for a better support if the need arises.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] README.org on github

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
Puneeth Chaganti puncha...@gmail.com writes:

 I've tweeted to them at least a couple of times (in the past few
 months) regarding this, but haven't yet got any response from them.
 May be someone should send an email to supp...@github.com.  I got back
 replies for other things in about a week or so, on email.  In general,
 GitHub staff seem like a nice bunch of people to me.

Actually, I would love to see Org files supported on gitorious.org and
other free dVCS web services.  This would create a nice emulation among
them all.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Macros [was: Re: ATTR_HTML for a clickable image, howto?]

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien
Hi François,

François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca writes:

 This (partly) replies to the message I sent a few minutes ago.  Before
 sending that message, I checked in the Org manual, and the manual is
 silent about the possibility of such escaping.

 The manual is also silent about nesting, which has been mentioned
 elsewhere in this thread.  The examples in the manual do not hint either
 about whether newlines are allowed or not in macro arguments.

Please contribute by sending patches or more readable hints on what
should be fixed... 

 If macros are there to stay in Org, it might be worth documenting a more
 complete specification about how to define and use them.

Macros are here to stay.  Please also remember the manual cannot cover
everything -- Worg can efficiently cover topics like this one.

Thanks for your help!

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Presentation on Org-mode at Dunkerque (France)

2012-05-22 Thread Bastien


Hi Fabrice,

Fabrice Niessen
fni-djc/ipccudyqhejpep6iedvlejwur...@public.gmane.org writes:

 Just to tell you that I will make a presentation on Org-mode during the LaTeX
 day in Dunkerque (FR) on Wed 13th June 2012.

Great -- let's us know if the audience asks questions that are worth
asking here!

Good luck,

-- 
 Bastien




Re: [O] [Feature Request] org-mobile edit:add nodes

2012-05-22 Thread Henning Weiss
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote:

 Hi Henning,

 Henning Weiss hdwe...@gmail.com writes:

  I have refined the edit nodes patch. Aaron Peromsik has helped me
  with developing and testing it. He hasn't reported any problems with
  it and I have been using it for a couple of weeks now without
  experiencing any problems.

 Thanks.  Can someone else test this patch?  I'm not using org-mobile.el.


To make the testing of the new edit nodes more attractive, someone could
compile the new editnodes
branchhttps://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/tree/editnodesfrom
mobileorg-android. This branch adds support for refiling, deleting and
archiving nodes. Further explanation can be found
herehttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/mobileorg-android/4Hzp51gK38I
.

Henning


Re: [O] stop comments and weblinks from being coloured and names of directories from being italised, /etc/

2012-05-22 Thread Nick Dokos
Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote:

 Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes:
 
  I think comments don't get exported, so it must be just regular Org?
 
 Indeed.  Hence my guess.
 
 Thanks Samuel!  We spend cents, you spread wisdom :)
 

Hear, hear! One of these days I'll learn to read.

Nick




Re: [O] New exporter [was: Re: Using Org for a dissertation]

2012-05-22 Thread François Pinard
François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca writes:

 Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 I'd rather pull you into writing a Texinfo back-end for the export
 engine ;)

Well, Nicolas has been much helpful at getting me started on this one.

 I might aim Python.

Nicolas' works are so nicely done that it would be rather insane not
using them.  Even if Python is more fun and speedy to write than Emacs
Lisp, it has drawbacks in the context of Org.  I'll stick to Lisp.

François

P.S. I should quickly get a rotten implementation; it will then take
forever to get it back on track!  The usual story... :-)



Re: [O] is there a way to have =var_name= in table

2012-05-22 Thread Michael Brand
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Stephen J. Barr stephenjb...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
 | =var1=    | this is the first var  |
[...]
 However, pressing [TAB] after writing =var1= causes #ERROR to show up.
[...]

Just for the records. This issue has been resolved in the meantime with:

commit 8342fdb70aa28edbb7b0b18bf1f3c0fd2dd561fa
Author: Bastien Guerry b...@altern.org
Date:   Tue May 1 02:03:12 2012 +0200

It was also on my list of someday/maybe...

Michael