[O] orgmode.org shutdown

2012-12-05 Thread David Arroyo Menéndez
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orgmode.org is shutdown. I can speak with UNED or es.gnu.org to
establish a mirror if it's necessary.

Regards.

- -- 
David Arroyo Menéndez
http://www.davidam.com
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Re: [O] orgmode.org shutdown

2012-12-05 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi David,

David Arroyo Menéndez wrote:
 orgmode.org is shutdown.

Not for me, at least not anymore.

Best regards,
  Seb

-- 
Sebastien Vauban




Re: [O] Redundant todo keywords in agenda todo view

2012-12-05 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi John,

John Hendy wrote:
 This is what the top of my agenda todo view:

 --
 Global list of TODO items of type: ALL
 Available with `N r': (0)[ALL] (1)todo (2)next (3)wait (4)done (5)cancelled
 (6)todo (7)next (8)wait (9)done
   (10)cancelled (11)todo (12)next (13)wait (14)done
 (15)cancelled (16)todo (17)next (18)wait
   (19)done (20)cancelled (21)todo (22)next (23)wait
 (24)done (25)cancelled (26)todo (27)next
   (28)wait (29)done (30)cancelled (31)todo (32)next
 (33)wait (34)done (35)cancelled (36)todo
   (37)next (38)wait (39)done (40)cancelled (41)todo
 (42)next (43)wait (44)done (45)cancelled
 --

 This is the first time I noticed that. I have tons of redundant todo
 keywords. Thoughts on how I might diagnose?

A shot in the dark: does it behave similarly when Emacs is restarted?  If yes,
could that be the result of `org-reload'?

I do have some troubles, sometimes (conditions not yet exactly isolated), when
org-reload'ing: duplicate agenda entries, etc.

Best regards,
Seb

--
Sebastien Vauban




Re: [O] orgmode.org shutdown

2012-12-05 Thread David Arroyo Menéndez
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Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes:

 Hi David,

 David Arroyo Menéndez wrote:
 orgmode.org is shutdown.

 Not for me, at least not anymore.

 Best regards,
   Seb

:mmm

The output of my ping test is:

davidam@tolstoi:~$ ping orgmode.org
PING orgmode.org (198.101.246.4) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
- --- orgmode.org ping statistics ---
14 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 13103ms

davidam@tolstoi:~$ ping es.gnu.org
PING es.gnu.org (91.224.149.60) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from chapters.tetaneutral.net (91.224.149.60): icmp_req=1 ttl=49 
time=4229 ms
64 bytes from chapters.tetaneutral.net (91.224.149.60): icmp_req=2 ttl=49 
time=3230 ms
64 bytes from chapters.tetaneutral.net (91.224.149.60): icmp_req=3 ttl=49 
time=2231 ms



- -- 
David Arroyo Menéndez
http://www.davidam.com
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Re: [O] orgmode.org shutdown

2012-12-05 Thread David Arroyo Menéndez
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Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes:

 Hi David,

 David Arroyo Menéndez wrote:
 orgmode.org is shutdown.

 Not for me, at least not anymore.

 Best regards,
   Seb

Ok, accessing on http way is running and git is running now.

On yesterday, is not running well.

Thanks 

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David Arroyo Menéndez
http://www.davidam.com
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Re: [O] org-caldav: Sync Org with external calendars through CalDAV (Owncloud, Google, ...)

2012-12-05 Thread Stephen Eglen

 It's bug:

 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2012-07/msg00674.html

 Not sure if that fix is in 24.2, but surely the latest pretest for 24.3
 should work (which is pretty stable).

Thanks David; indeed, its working fine now in the 24.2.90 pretest that
was recently released.


 I'm still wondering why it didn't work at the beginning. I mean, even if
 you had your Google username set in some .netrc or .authinfo, the
 password should still work?

The problem (I think) was that I had a misformatted .netrc with a
username in it that I thought was just for one machine, but must have
been for all machines!  Removing that .netrc file solved my problem,
thanks.

Stephen



Re: [O] org-caldav: Sync Org with external calendars through CalDAV (Owncloud, Google, ...)

2012-12-05 Thread Stephen Eglen

Now that I've got org-caldav working (thanks David), here's a simple
helper function so that the files specified in org-agenda-files are
exported.  I hope it works for others too!

(defun org-caldav-set-files-from-org-agenda ()
  Set `org-caldav-files' from the files specified in 'org-agenda-files'.
Ensure however that `org-caldav-inbox' is not included in the file list.
  (let ((files (org-agenda-files)))
(when (member (file-truename org-caldav-inbox) files)
  (setq files (delete (file-truename org-caldav-inbox) files)))
(setq org-caldav-files files)))

(org-caldav-set-files-from-org-agenda)

Stephen



Re: [O] [PATCH] org-mobile agenda title

2012-12-05 Thread Henning Weiss
Hi,

I was wondering why this patch was reversed in master. An updated version
of the patch is attached, and a discussion of what it does is below.

Henning

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Henning Weiss hdwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I have been working on a patch for 
 mobileorg-androidhttps://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-androidthat improves 
 the displaying of the generated
 agendas.org file. The problem I'm having is that TITLE: fields of all
 entries are generated by concatenating the name and the matching criterion
 of an entry. The issue is discussed in further details 
 herehttps://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/issues/114#issuecomment-3658654
 .

 I have tried to create a patch that removes the match criterions from the
 generated title entry and attached it below. This could potentially break
 other org-mobile clients and might not be the best way to solve this.

 What would it take to include this in orgmode?

 best regards,
 Henning Weiss

 diff --git a/lisp/org-mobile.el b/lisp/org-mobile.el
 index 541ccc8..82320c7 100644
 --- a/lisp/org-mobile.el
 +++ b/lisp/org-mobile.el
 @@ -592,7 +592,7 @@ The table of checksums is written to the file
 mobile-checksums.
   (cons (list 'org-agenda-title-append
  (concat afterKEYS= gkey # (number-to-string
(setq cnt (1+ cnt)))
 - TITLE:  gdesc   match /after))
 + TITLE:  gdesc /after))
settings))
(push (list type match settings) new)
  (and new (list X SUMO (reverse new)



0001-Removed-match-from-agendas-title.patch
Description: Binary data


[O] temporary directory for export

2012-12-05 Thread Alan Schmitt
Hello,

I have found how to set a temporary directory for org-babel export files
(using org-babel-temporary-directory), but I cannot find how to specify
that, by default (i.e., unless specified with a file option), files
should be exported to a temporary directory.

My motivation for this is that I keep a single folder with many org-mode
files, some of them for presentations, papers, or letters. I regularly
have to go in there and get rid of all the .tex, .log, .pdf, .aux, etc.,
that accumulate.

Thanks,

Alan



Re: [O] I can't make work 'startup hidestars'

2012-12-05 Thread Daniel E. Doherty
If it helps, I have the following in my init file to make sure the hidden stars 
stay hidden:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(defun ded-set-org-hide ()
  Make sure the background and foreground colors of the org-hide face
  matches the background of the default face.
  (interactive)
  (when (featurep 'org)
(set-face-attribute 'org-hide nil
:foreground
(face-attribute 'default :background))
(set-face-attribute 'org-hide nil
:background
(face-attribute 'default :background
  (add-hook 'after-init-hook 'ded-set-org-hide)
  (add-hook 'org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook 'ded-set-org-hide)
#+end_src

This works fine, but has to be manually re-run if you load a different custom 
theme.

-- 

Daniel E. Doherty
Law Offices of Daniel E. Doherty
ded-...@ddoherty.net



[O] Org Writer's room

2012-12-05 Thread Matt Price
Hi Everyone,

Prompted by a couple of recent threads on help-gnu-emacs
(http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/87787), I am trying to
create a minor mode for org that would implement some of the cool
features of Scrivener
(http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php).

Scrivener is  a closed-source but still very cool authoring tool for
writers.  After testdriving it, I find that Scrivener's interface
really makes it easy to concentrate on writing while still being aware
of the overall structure of a big project.  Lots of my daughter's
friends use it for National Novel Writing Month, in which they try to
write a 50,000 word novel in 30 days; and I'm finding that more and
more of my students have switched to Scrivener from Word or
Libreoffice, over which it offers a lot of improvements (though it's
not so good atthings like footnotes).

Emacs is pretty different from Scrivener (!!), but I still think we
could implement some of its features, and that doing so would make
emacs/org-mode a *way* better environment for writers.  So I've
started working on org-writers-room.el.  I'm a terrible coder, and I
can't think in Lisp at all, so I think the code is pretty bad!  And
right now it doesn't do much -- just sets up the basic window layout
and define one or two functions  But the ambitions are described in
more detail on the github repository:

https://github.com/titaniumbones/org-writers-room

I would be really grateful for feedback from both coders and writers.
I'd especially love it if anyone had some ideas on how to implement
the missing features, or better yet, was able to write some code for
the project!  As I say, I feel a little over my head when it comes to
elisp.

Thanks very much!
Matt



Re: [O] Redundant todo keywords in agenda todo view

2012-12-05 Thread John Hendy
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com
 wrote:

 Hi John,

 John Hendy wrote:
  This is what the top of my agenda todo view:
 
  --
  Global list of TODO items of type: ALL
  Available with `N r': (0)[ALL] (1)todo (2)next (3)wait (4)done
 (5)cancelled
  (6)todo (7)next (8)wait (9)done
(10)cancelled (11)todo (12)next (13)wait (14)done
  (15)cancelled (16)todo (17)next (18)wait
(19)done (20)cancelled (21)todo (22)next (23)wait
  (24)done (25)cancelled (26)todo (27)next
(28)wait (29)done (30)cancelled (31)todo (32)next
  (33)wait (34)done (35)cancelled (36)todo
(37)next (38)wait (39)done (40)cancelled (41)todo
  (42)next (43)wait (44)done (45)cancelled
  --
 
  This is the first time I noticed that. I have tons of redundant todo
  keywords. Thoughts on how I might diagnose?

 A shot in the dark: does it behave similarly when Emacs is restarted?  If
 yes,
 could that be the result of `org-reload'?

 I do have some troubles, sometimes (conditions not yet exactly isolated),
 when
 org-reload'ing: duplicate agenda entries, etc.


Yeah, I think this was just a glitch. I did a fresh pull  make just 'cause
and don't have any issues now, nor did I after simply =C-a t= even before
the pull/make. I think it was just a temporary fluke and should have waited
to see if it was reproducible before mailing the list.

John


 Best regards,
 Seb

 --
 Sebastien Vauban





Re: [O] boxquote in plain lists

2012-12-05 Thread Julien Cubizolles
Giovanni Ridolfi giovanni.rido...@yahoo.it writes:

 C-c @ on the headline
 so that the whole text is selected

 * C-c - on the headline
 Actually,
 C-c - on the selected text: i.e. the first line ( the headline
     and the whole text below)

 * headline gets converted to a plain list that can't be folded anymore

 the whole text, i.e.  headline+text is converted
 in an item of a list and indented correctly.

Thanks, I'm not used to C-c @. I guess it's boxquote being at fault
here.

Julien.




[O] Agenda highlighting bug

2012-12-05 Thread Simon Thum

Hi all,

I recently added an org file which is an import from our community 
service, the so-called Müllabfuhr, which I put in müllabfuhr.org.


The agenda fails to highlight these entries however. It's not terrible, 
actually it's JUST PERFECT because this is such a minor thing but it 
sucks to miss it.


Now that's obviously a bug. But I really like to attenuate some entries, 
just as approaching deadlines are set in bold. Is there any feature to 
achieve this (ideally based on tags, not presence of weird characters in 
the file name)?


Cheers,

Simon



[O] [new exporter] :wrap problems

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Gauland
I've run into trouble using the :wrap option with babel, with the new exporter.
Using :wrap to put the result in an EXAMPLE block works consistently, but
putting the result into a SRC block is inconsistent.  This example:

* :wrap example
  #+BEGIN_SRC ruby :results value :exports both :wrap EXAMPLE
  This string came from Ruby.
  #+END_SRC

  #+BEGIN_SRC ruby :results value :exports both :wrap SRC fundamental
  This string also came from Ruby.
  #+END_SRC

Works as I would expect with the old exporter, but the new exporter does not
process the generated SRC block. Exporting to ASCII gives me:

:wrap example
=

  ,
  | This string came from Ruby.
  `

  ,
  | This string came from Ruby.
  `

  ,
  | This string also came from Ruby.
  `

  #+BEGIN_SRC fundamental This string also came from Ruby.
  #+END_SRC fundamental

The HTML and LaTeX exporters behave similarly (ie., the old exporters work; the
new ones don't). The org files I'm using contain several such blocks, and I've
found that some will be exported corretly, and others won't, though I haven't
noticed any pattern.

Can anyone verify that this behaviour is not unique to my system (and perhaps
suggest where the problem may be?)

Kind Regards,
Mike Gauland




Re: [O] [new exporter] :wrap problems

2012-12-05 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

Michael Gauland mikely...@no8wireless.co.nz writes:

 I've run into trouble using the :wrap option with babel, with the new 
 exporter.
 Using :wrap to put the result in an EXAMPLE block works consistently, but
 putting the result into a SRC block is inconsistent.  This example:

 * :wrap example
   #+BEGIN_SRC ruby :results value :exports both :wrap EXAMPLE
   This string came from Ruby.
   #+END_SRC
   #+BEGIN_SRC ruby :results value :exports both :wrap SRC fundamental
   This string also came from Ruby.
   #+END_SRC

 Works as I would expect with the old exporter, but the new exporter does not
 process the generated SRC block. Exporting to ASCII gives me:

 :wrap example
 =

   ,
   | This string came from Ruby.
   `

   ,
   | This string came from Ruby.
   `

   ,
   | This string also came from Ruby.
   `

   #+BEGIN_SRC fundamental This string also came from Ruby.
   #+END_SRC fundamental

I only have time for a cursory look at the problem right now, but
I notice one obvious error: :wrap src fundamental generates wrong Org
syntax. It should be #+END_SRC not #+END_SRC fundamental.

I assume that fixing it on the Babel side should make the problem go
away.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



Re: [O] new exporter: link abbrev

2012-12-05 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

Michael Brand michael.ch.br...@gmail.com writes:

 I think the new exporter should still expand link abbreviations also
 when in the heading and for all backends. Example with html link on
 today’s release_7.9.2-646-g664217:

 - Org file:
   #+LINK: orgmode http://www.orgmode.org/
   * Org Mode doc [[orgmode:#docs]]

 - export to html:
   - old exporter expands link:
 h2 id=sec-1span class=section-number-21/span Org Mode doc
 a 
 href=http://www.orgmode.org/#docs;http://www.orgmode.org/#docs/a/h2
   - new exporter leaves link abbreviated:
 h2 id=sec-1span class=section-number-21/span Org Mode doc
 iorgmode:#docs/i/h2

 - export to ascii:
   - old exporter expands link:
 1 Org Mode doc [http://www.orgmode.org/#docs]
   - new exporter omits link:
 1 Org Mode doc

There are two things going on here. 

The first one, which is minor, is that e-ascii back-end currently
doesn't handle correctly translated links anywhere. This is easy to fix.

The second one is a more difficult problem. Org Elements usually
translates links on the fly when parsing them: `org-element-link-parser'
calls `org-translate-link'. This function requires
`org-link-abbrev-alist' and `org-link-abbrev-alist-local' variables to
be set properly, the second one being a local variable.

Unfortunately, parsing of secondary strings (in particular headline
titles or inline footnote definitions) happens in a temporary buffer,
where no local variable is set. There `org-link-abbrev-alist-local' is
nil, no matter what your #+LINK: keyword says, and link translation
can't happen.

Also, local variables cannot be send to the temporary buffer, because
secondary string parsing can sometimes happen when the original buffer
isn't supposed to exist, that is during export (when the parse tree is
the only trusted data).

A possible solution would be to move link translation from
org-element.el to org-export.el. But that would require to explicitly
call a translator function on links, which would be an additional task
for back-end developers. Also, `org-element-context' would not return
anymore the real path of the abbreviated link, only its raw path.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



Re: [O] [new exporter] :wrap problems

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Gauland
Nicolas Goaziou n.goaziou at gmail.com writes:
 I only have time for a cursory look at the problem right now, but
 I notice one obvious error: :wrap src fundamental generates wrong Org
 syntax. It should be #+END_SRC not #+END_SRC fundamental.
 
 I assume that fixing it on the Babel side should make the problem go
 away.

That seems to do the trick--thanks for spotting it.

I'll submit a patch.

--Mike





[O] [PATCH] Babel: Fix the #+END_ directive from the :wrap param

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Gauland

* lisp/ob.el: Only use the :wrap argument up to the first space when creating
  the #+END_ directive.

Using an option like :wrap SRC fundamental was generating and end marker of
#+END_SRC fundamental, which caused the new exporter to fail to handle to
block properly.

TINYCHANGE
---
 lisp/ob.el |3 ++-
 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
 mode change 100644 = 100755 lisp/ob.el

diff --git a/lisp/ob.el b/lisp/ob.el
old mode 100644
new mode 100755
index c030a7f..563233e
--- a/lisp/ob.el
+++ b/lisp/ob.el
@@ -1997,7 +1997,8 @@ code  the results are extracted in the syntax of the
source
(cond
 ((assoc :wrap (nth 2 info))
  (let ((name (or (cdr (assoc :wrap (nth 2 info))) RESULTS)))
-   (funcall wrap (concat #+BEGIN_ name) (concat #+END_ 
name
+   (funcall wrap (concat #+BEGIN_ name) 
+(concat #+END_ (car (split-string name))
 ((member html result-params)
  (funcall wrap #+BEGIN_HTML #+END_HTML))
 ((member latex result-params)
-- 
1.7.9






[O] The statement on what is orgmode.

2012-12-05 Thread Vikas Rawal
The top title space on the orgmode website says: Org mode is for
keeping notes, maintaining TODO lists, doing project planning, and
authoring with a fast and effective plain-text system.

Orgmode today does a lot more than organising/planning. I felt that
the above does not adequately reflect what orgmode is useful for. I
would think that a new visitor coming to the website would be mislead
to think that it is primarily a planning/to do application. For
example, writers/publishers who need to produce formatted output would
not think that there is something useful here for them.

I feel that the above statement does not adequately express that
orgmode can do this and a lot more.

Any comments/suggestions?

Vikas
  



[O] org-gnome-calendar

2012-12-05 Thread Lluís Vilanova
It's just barely working and quite slow, but here's an initial tentative on a
package to get the agenda in Org mode to show up in GNOME's calendar:

  https://github.com/llvilanova/org-gnome-calendar


Lluis

-- 
 And it's much the same thing with knowledge, for whenever you learn
 something new, the whole world becomes that much richer.
 -- The Princess of Pure Reason, as told by Norton Juster in The Phantom
 Tollbooth



Re: [O] Org Writer's room

2012-12-05 Thread Andrew Hyatt
This sounds like an interesting project.  My advice is to make a few
screenshots that give people an idea what you are working towards.  Of
course, they could be completely fake, but it would be helpful to
understand for people like me who haven't used Scrivener.


On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 Prompted by a couple of recent threads on help-gnu-emacs
 (http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/87787), I am trying to
 create a minor mode for org that would implement some of the cool
 features of Scrivener
 (http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php).

 Scrivener is  a closed-source but still very cool authoring tool for
 writers.  After testdriving it, I find that Scrivener's interface
 really makes it easy to concentrate on writing while still being aware
 of the overall structure of a big project.  Lots of my daughter's
 friends use it for National Novel Writing Month, in which they try to
 write a 50,000 word novel in 30 days; and I'm finding that more and
 more of my students have switched to Scrivener from Word or
 Libreoffice, over which it offers a lot of improvements (though it's
 not so good atthings like footnotes).

 Emacs is pretty different from Scrivener (!!), but I still think we
 could implement some of its features, and that doing so would make
 emacs/org-mode a *way* better environment for writers.  So I've
 started working on org-writers-room.el.  I'm a terrible coder, and I
 can't think in Lisp at all, so I think the code is pretty bad!  And
 right now it doesn't do much -- just sets up the basic window layout
 and define one or two functions  But the ambitions are described in
 more detail on the github repository:

 https://github.com/titaniumbones/org-writers-room

 I would be really grateful for feedback from both coders and writers.
 I'd especially love it if anyone had some ideas on how to implement
 the missing features, or better yet, was able to write some code for
 the project!  As I say, I feel a little over my head when it comes to
 elisp.

 Thanks very much!
 Matt




Re: [O] Org Writer's room

2012-12-05 Thread Rasmus
Andrew Hyatt ahy...@gmail.com writes:

 This sounds like an interesting project.  My advice is to make a few
 screenshots that give people an idea what you are working towards.
 Of course, they could be completely fake, but it would be helpful to
 understand for people like me who haven't used Scrivener.

I would also like to see this.  It sounds nice when I read your
description, but I still don't fully appreciate the idea.

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Re: [O] Org Writer's room

2012-12-05 Thread Alan L Tyree

On 06/12/12 11:22, Rasmus wrote:

Andrew Hyatt ahy...@gmail.com writes:


This sounds like an interesting project.  My advice is to make a few
screenshots that give people an idea what you are working towards.
Of course, they could be completely fake, but it would be helpful to
understand for people like me who haven't used Scrivener.

I would also like to see this.  It sounds nice when I read your
description, but I still don't fully appreciate the idea.

–Rasmus

I'm also very interested. I haven't used Scrivener -- what features do 
you see as making org a *way* better writing environment?


Cheers,
Alan

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[O] What's new in an orgmode based website

2012-12-05 Thread Vikas Rawal
I have an orgmode-based website (http://www.indianstatistics.org).

I would like to have a section in the index.html that shows links to
recently changed/added html pages. It would be nice if I could show
titles of such pages, and create links from these titles to the files.

Will be grateful for suggestions on how this could be achieved.

Vikas






Re: [O] The statement on what is orgmode.

2012-12-05 Thread Rasmus
Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes:

 I feel that the above statement does not adequately express that
 orgmode can do this and a lot more.

 Any comments/suggestions?

The text isn't that bad, but you are right.  Babel and exports is
perhaps underrepresented.  This one is slightly different, but perhaps
way to complicated.

Orgmode is a Free/libre plain-text system for GNU Emacs for
organizing project, and maintaining TODO lists, keeping notes, doing
literate programming and exporting to many high quality formats.

Problems: many of the concepts are perhaps only intutive /after/ you
know Org-mode.

One remedy, to this, and a thing I think would be nice in any case,
would be if keywords in the presenting sentence would link to (worg?)
feature pages. 

For instance, export could link to a page briefly showing the many
exporters/features ¹ 

  - LaTeX
  - odt
  - plain text
  - html; blogs
  - beamer slides; html slides

For instance, such a page could show a simple org source file and the
exported version.

–Rasmus

Footnotes: 
 ¹   The org exporter is very impressive by now thanks to Nicolas,
Jambunathan, Luis and the rest of the gang.  Thanks.

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[O] texinfo export advice

2012-12-05 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha all,

I'm trying to find a good Org representation for a common construct in
org.texi and need some help.

Here is the construct in org.texi:

@table @asis
@orgcmd{C-u C-u @key{TAB},org-set-startup-visibility}
Switch back to the startup visibility of the buffer, i.e.: whatever is
requested by startup options and @samp{VISIBILITY} properties in individual
entries.
@end table

It displays a key command and the Org function that it runs, then has a
description of the function.  In the info manual it looks like this:

`C-u C-u TAB' (`org-set-startup-visibility')
 Switch back to the startup visibility of the buffer, i.e.:
 whatever is requested by startup options and `VISIBILITY'
 properties in individual entries.

I can export this with the texinfo exporter with a lot of wrapping:

@@info:@table @asis@@
@@info:@orgcmd{C-u C-u @key{TAB},org-set-startup-visibility}@@
Switch back to the startup visibility of the buffer, i.e.: whatever is
requested by startup options and @@info:@samp{VISIBILITY}@@ properties in 
individual
entries.
@@info:@end table@@

This is fine, but the Org mode buffer doesn't look much like Org mode
after a few of these.

My idea is to use a description list, like so:

  - @@info:@orgcmd{C-u C-u @key{TAB},org-set-startup-visibility}@@ ::
   Switch back to the startup visibility of the buffer, i.e.:
   whatever is requested by startup options and
   @@info:@samp{VISIBILITY}@@ properties in individual entries.

This almost works.  However, it inserts an @index command that gets in
the way:

@table @samp
@item @orgcmd{C-u C-u @key{TAB},org-set-startup-visibility}
Switch back to the startup visibility of the buffer, i.e.:
whatever is requested by startup options and
@samp{VISIBILITY} properties in individual entries.

@end table

This is the view from info:

`

`C-u C-u TAB (`org-set-startup-visibility')'
 '
 Switch back to the startup visibility of the buffer, i.e.:
 whatever is requested by startup options and `VISIBILITY'
 properties in individual entries.

Note the extra open and close quotes and newlines.

I'm thinking something like this might be a useful addition:

#+attr_texinfo :item nil
  - @@info:@orgcmd{C-u C-u @key{TAB},org-set-startup-visibility}@@ ::
   Switch back to the startup visibility of the buffer, i.e.:
   whatever is requested by startup options and
   @@info:@samp{VISIBILITY}@@ properties in individual entries.

Ideas?

All the best,
Tom

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Re: [O] The statement on what is orgmode.

2012-12-05 Thread Vikas Rawal

 One remedy, to this, and a thing I think would be nice in any case,
 would be if keywords in the presenting sentence would link to (worg?)
 feature pages. 

Another possibility would be to make the title just say Org mode.

And the first headline, before Download and install, be something
like the following:

* Org mode is useful for
** Organising projects
** Maintaining TODO lists and calendars
** Keeping notes
** Creating high quality formatted documents
** Literate programming

Each of the above could then be linked to relevant pages of the manual
or worg.

Vikas





Re: [O] Org Writer's room

2012-12-05 Thread Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala

Hello Matt,

IIUC Scrivener, the one difficult part is implementing a window manger, If so
you can use window layout package(s) by Kiwanami[1][2].

Footnotes: 
[1]  https://github.com/kiwanami/emacs-window-layout
[2]  https://github.com/kiwanami/emacs-window-manager

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Re: [O] Org Writer's room

2012-12-05 Thread Scot Becker
As a now-seldom but was-daily user of Org-mode (work changed) who has long
been fascinated with Scrivener.  I think this project is a great idea.
And emacs/org seems a very fertile ground to implement it in.

Scot

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 06/12/12 11:22, Rasmus wrote:
 
  Andrew Hyatt ahy...@gmail.com writes:
 
  This sounds like an interesting project.  My advice is to make a few
  screenshots that give people an idea what you are working towards.
  Of course, they could be completely fake, but it would be helpful to
  understand for people like me who haven't used Scrivener.
 
  I would also like to see this.  It sounds nice when I read your
  description, but I still don't fully appreciate the idea.
 
  –Rasmus
 
  I'm also very interested. I haven't used Scrivener -- what features do
 you
  see as making org a *way* better writing environment?
 
  Cheers,
  Alan
 
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  Tel:  04 2748 6206  sip:172...@iptel.org
 
 

 Hi Everyone,

 Sorry, I sent that last email off too quickly as I was realizing that
 I actually had /work/ to do while I was at work...

 Scrivener is a really neat program, which is designed to help writers
 organize and manage large writing problems while staying focused on
 the actual task of writing.  Like org-mode, it has pretty powerful
 tools for manipulating the structure of a text; in general it is (from
 what I can tell) way less powerful than org-mode (what isn't?) but for
 a writer that may sometimes be an advantage -- it removes
 distractions.

 From what I can tell (and I am not a very experienced user) one of the
 main attractions of Scrivener is the metaphors it uses to organize
 your work.  Each project is called a 'Binder'; it's where you keep
 your drafts, your notes, and any supporting materials for your
 project.  When you work on a project, you can open up your binder
 and look at the materials on a 2-dimensional canvas to sort through
 them.  So, it's like taking your papers out of your binder and
 spreading them out on your desk.

 Each element in a binder is also represented as an index card.  On
 the front of hte index card is a title and a synopsis; on the back is
 the actual text you've been writing.

 In combination, these two metaphors are a really helpful way of
 thinking about your project, I think.

 In org-mode, it would be very difficult to replicate the
 almost-tactile feel of dragging index cards around a canvas to
 organize them.  (the .org file structure is actually probably really
 well-suited to this, but one would need to write a whole other
 program,I imagine in Javascript/HTML5, to implement the dragging).
 However, some of the cool things about the Scrivener interface *can*
 be implemented in org.

 Take a look at the attached screenshots.  I admire the 3-column
 layout, with an outline view in the left-hand column, metadata
 displayed on the right-hand side, and a main panel in the center which
 is used either to display index-card representations of the document
 structure, or the actual text that one intends to edit.

 To start with I would like to just replicate this window structure,
 because it keeps you focused on writing, while having the larger
 structure available if you feel the need to flit around a bit.  The
 third screenshot shows a semi-fake, still very primitive version of
 what I'd like to have.  (I haven't figured out a good way to do the
 metadata yet).

 Does this help clarify a bit?  Anyone think it's interesting?