Hello all,
(I hope this is not just noise...)
I use org as my main writing tool, typically for publications that I
submit using LaTeX. So far, so excellent!
However, I do have to export to ODT (as a means to DOC) and I find the
export to be very fragile. I keep running into some strange error
Aloha Stefan,
Stefan Nobis stefan...@snobis.de writes:
Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes:
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes:
Parts I hate:
The flag is either `@' or `'. `@' [...] The optional hyphen (`-')
Too many weird symbols that I won't be able to remember, much
Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes:
I am OK with this if it is important, though I am a little hesitant.
I don't know if it is important. Just thinking out loud.
In the last thread, you expressed concern that we not have too much
variation after the opening `[' for
Hi Eric,
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes:
+1 emphatically.
Thanks!
With respect to the bibliography database, for completeness, I would
like to see linking with org-bibtex data instead of bibtex etc.
Me too, as I keep all my reference data in org-bibtex. I suggest we
discuss the
0.
John Kitchin writes:
Citations in org are /far/ more than just references in the text
for me. They are functional links, gateways to a lot of
information connected to the citation. My org-files are much
more useful than the PDF manuscripts that get exported.
I completely agree.
I also
Hi John,
I don't have time for a long reply but I wanted to express a couple
points of agreement:
John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
I think the usual suspects reftex, helm-bibtex, and probably ebib
could be taught to output most of this syntax for whatever type, and
they could
John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
I still remain somewhat on the positive side of 0. While the focus of
these conversations has been on syntax (a necessary step to move
forward), there has been little focus on function.
One step at a time. It's already difficult to agree on a
Hi Nicolas,
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes:
Time for another crazy idea. Last one on my side for today
[cite ...] [(cite) ...] [Cite ...] [(Cite) ...]
It should solve the :capitalize issue.
I am OK with this if it is important, though I am a little hesitant.
In the last
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
I still remain somewhat on the positive side of 0. While the focus of
these conversations has been on syntax (a necessary step to move
forward), there has been little focus on function.
One step at a time. It's already
jorge.alfaro-muri...@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) writes:
From what I read in this and the previous thread, the new proposal
tries more or less to reimplement BibTeX in org.
No, that's wrong, not the database should be replaced. The goal is to
make citations a first class citizen in the
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes:
Biblatex is the gold standard. Maybe not in input-aesthetics..., but in
terms of amenability, usability and output it surely is. (No, I have
nothing to back this up).
Compare the bibtex style, chicago.bst, with biblatex-chicago and note
how much more closely the
That is probably something like it. I meant sorted by year (others may
prefer author), which also means looking up in the database, decorating,
and then sorting, but that doesn't fundamentally change your idea. Then,
from the sorted list, you have to regenerate the org-syntax and replace
the
Stefan Nobis writes:
jorge.alfaro-muri...@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) writes:
From what I read in this and the previous thread, the new
proposal tries more or less to reimplement BibTeX in org.
No, that's wrong, not the database should be replaced. The goal
is to make citations a
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes:
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes:
But footnotes in titles are set with symbols, e.g. * † ‡ and so forth.
IOW they are independent of the regular footnote counter, and don't
consume a number.
But then it requires to implement a special handler in
Stefan Nobis writes:
jorge.alfaro-muri...@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) writes:
Hmmm... nowadays one uses biblatex[fn:1] (with its companion biber)
which makes hacking bibliography styles quite easy (in LaTeX; compared
to customizing bst files). I do not think that the current
John Kitchin writes:
Stefan Nobis writes:
Hmmm... nowadays one uses biblatex[fn:1] (with its companion
biber) which makes hacking bibliography styles quite easy (in
LaTeX; compared to customizing bst files). I do not think that
the current discussion will lead to writing bib-styles in Lisp
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
Biblatex is the gold standard. Maybe not in input-aesthetics..., but in
terms of amenability, usability and output it surely is. (No, I have
nothing to back this up).
Compare the bibtex style, chicago.bst, with biblatex-chicago and note
how much more
Hello,
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes:
At this point, I get very long data structures dumped to
*Messages*... difficult to figure out what is wrong. It's often my
mistake but tracking it down is difficult.
You're using an internal link to target a paragraph (possibly a image or
some
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes:
[cite:subtype: ...]
where subtype can be associated to any number of attributes, at user's
discretion.
I like CITE:subtype for customization, where CITE is a member some set,
e.g. {cite citep/(cite) fncite citeauthor} or whatever. I like this
There is no question in my mind that some people will want to extend
this, as there are just too few of the latex citation commands
supported out of the box, especially for biblatex users (who used that
because of limitations in bibtex ;).
Do you think there are important commands that I
Here is one way to do it in a code block.
#+tblname: tab-data
| Menge (x) | P(x) | E(x) | K(x) | Gewinn |
|---+--+++-|
| 0 | 20 | 0.00 | 140.00 | -140.00 |
|10 | 18 | 180.00 | 180.00 | 0.00|
|20 | 16 | 320.00 | 220.00 |
John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
They are probably minor, but for example I am not sure how easy it would
be to sort a multicite with all of the syntax options. I guess it can be
done, I just do not see it clearly. It may not be necessary to do this
either.
Out of curiosity:
Why
Hi Thorsten
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Thorsten Grothe i...@th-grothe.de wrote:
I got this table:
| Menge (x) | P(x) | E(x) | K(x) | Gewinn |
|---+--+++-|
| 0 | 20 | 0.00 | 140.00 | -140.00 |
|10 | 18 | 180.00 | 180.00 |
Hello,
As explained in its commit message, the following patch is an attempt at
simplifying `org-show-context' configuration by offering a set of
5 predefined views to choose from instead of setting 4 different
variables (`org-show-following-heading', `org-show-siblings',
`org-show-entry-below'
Hello,
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes:
A caption seems to prevent Org from finding a table when using inline
calls. Consider this example:
#+NAME: tbl0
#+CAPTION: caption
| a | b |
|---+---|
| 1 | 2 |
src_emacs-lisp[:var val=tbl0[2,1]]{val} =nil=
#+CAPTION: caption
#+NAME: tbl1
| a
Hello,
Sebastien Vauban sva-news-D0wtAvR13HarG/idocf...@public.gmane.org
writes:
I guess it's directly linked to a problem I reported last
September. This is indeed annoying...
See issue #29 on http://orgmode.org/worg/org-issues.html (and see the
pointed thread).
This isssue seems fixed.
Kyle Meyer k...@kyleam.com writes:
Thanks for the feedback.
Minor: It took me some extra effort to parse this sentence because I'm
not used to seeing 'respectively' used in this way. I think something
like below is more common.
As special cases, a nil or t value means show all contexts
Hi,
Another idea: [...]
Good trick. I used it in attached, which I think works well.
—Rasmus
--
With monopolies the cake is a lie!
From 4ab1df88e5bf87d01594e280af7887cc6cd0d3ca Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: rasmus ras...@gmx.us
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 12:02:59 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] org.el:
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr wrote:
As explained in its commit message, the following patch is an attempt at
simplifying `org-show-context' configuration by offering a set of
5 predefined views to choose from instead of setting 4 different
variables (`org-show-following-heading',
+1 from me too, observing from the sidelines but also wanting to be able to
handle citations.
Bill
On 16 February 2015, Eric S Fraga wrote:
On Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 18:29, Richard Lawrence wrote:
Hi everyone,
Since discussion seems to have petered out on the previous thread (see:
Presumably this is related to my having upgraded to:
Org-mode version 8.2.10 (8.2.10-33-g880a2b-elpa)
GNU Emacs 25.0.50.6 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.9) of
2015-02-10 on localhost.localdomain
I use org-contacts[1] to autofill addresses in GNUs. Normally can use
+CATEGORY to add
I have set up only one persistent tag set with a key character like this:
(org-tag-persistent-alist (quote ((@i_shopping . 105
There are no file based #+TAGS in any of org files.
I also like to have access to all tags in all files, so I set this up:
Change :EXPORT_FILENAME: an-interesting-article to :EXPORT_FILE_NAME:
an-interesting-article
Then,
C-c C-e C-s O o
should export to that file. I notice in the org export that the
properties are not getting exported, and even the headline is not
exported as the title though.
Here is a function
Eric S Fraga writes:
On Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 18:29, Richard Lawrence wrote:
Hi everyone,
Since discussion seems to have petered out on the previous thread (see:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/94524), I took some time to
go back over the discussion and write up a concrete
Hi,
A caption seems to prevent Org from finding a table when using inline
calls. Consider this example:
#+NAME: tbl0
#+CAPTION: caption
| a | b |
|---+---|
| 1 | 2 |
src_emacs-lisp[:var val=tbl0[2,1]]{val} =nil=
#+CAPTION: caption
#+NAME: tbl1
| a | b |
|---+---|
| 1 | 2 |
Thank you John and Michael for your suggestions, I will see if my
knowledge is wide enough to understand this, unfortunately I'm a emacs
newbie :-)
Anyway I will answer after testing your suggestions!
Regards
Thorsten
jorge.alfaro-muri...@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) writes:
I see, so in the examples provided Doe99 is only the key, org would
not have to know that the author name is Doe and its year is 1999,
or any other information about the citation.
Yes and no. In the first place org should only
Hello all,
Please ignore my previous email. I have rebuilt org and restarted emacs
and everything is back to normal. I don't know why a particular key
binding disappeared but maybe it was a cosmic ray incident :)
[[http://xkcd.com/378/]]
Sorry for the noise.
--
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D),
Dear Org-users,
I got this table:
| Menge (x) | P(x) | E(x) | K(x) | Gewinn |
|---+--+++-|
| 0 | 20 | 0.00 | 140.00 | -140.00 |
|10 | 18 | 180.00 | 180.00 | 0.00|
|20 | 16 | 320.00 | 220.00 | 100.00 |
|30 |
Thanks very much for this John. As you say, the normal export C-c C-e
C-s O o does not work as expected. Your function exported the
properties properly, but seemed to work on the visible text only and
wouldn't export the content of headings (unless I unfold them all prior
to import). If the
I think if you change (org-org-export-as-org nil t t) to
(org-org-export-as-org nil t) you would get the section content. I
didn't test it though.
si...@psilas.com writes:
Thanks very much for this John. As you say, the normal export C-c C-e
C-s O o does not work as expected. Your function
That's perfect John, works a treat!
Thank you very much.
Simon.
---
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015, at 02:59 PM, John Kitchin wrote:
I think if you change (org-org-export-as-org nil t t) to
(org-org-export-as-org nil t) you would get the section content. I
didn't test it though.
si...@psilas.com
Hi there,
I think I must be missing something.
I have a collection of articles in one org file (under separate
headings). I can export these as a subtree using Org's normal export
function as html etc., but I want to export the selected subtree as an
individual org file using the properties
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes:
2015-02-13 ven. (10h-13h)
Hiting C-c . RET with point on the timestamp gives
2015-02-13 ven. -13h (10h-13h)
which is not expected.
It should now be fixed.
Thanks, works great so far (unlike my own patch, which would fail in
some situations).
Hello,
Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes:
However, I agree that the distinction between parenthetical and footnotes
citations is unhelpful for me. Whenever I switch between Chicago and APA,
for instance, zotero converts my footnotes to parenthetical expressions.
To me this seems an
Hi Marcin,
Marcin Borkowski wrote:
I don't want to be nitpicking, but I'm just curious. I'm looking at the
function `org-split-string'. It uses (two times) the following
construction:
(setq list (cons (something) list))
Is there any particular reason for not using `push' there?
IIUC,
Richard Lawrence richard.lawre...@berkeley.edu writes:
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes:
Parts I hate:
The flag is either `@' or `'. `@' [...] The optional hyphen (`-')
Too many weird symbols that I won't be able to remember, much less explain
to somebody else.
I don't love these
Hello,
Nikolai Weibull n...@disu.se writes:
Sorry for the late reply. Here’s a patch that should work:
Thank you.
Could you provide an appropriate commit message and send it using git
format-patch? If you haven't signed FSF papers yet, you also need to add
TINYCHANGE at the end of the
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes:
Time for another crazy idea. Last one on my side for today
[cite ...] [(cite) ...] [Cite ...] [(Cite) ...]
It should solve the :capitalize issue.
+1
I really like it - even when looking at the org file with something
weird like vim, it's
Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes:
I am generally much more positive than Thomas, being, for the most part,
ecstatic at the thought of a built-in citation syntax which will make
citations in org workable for bumbling nonprogrammers like myself.
However, I agree that the distinction
On Saturday, 14 Feb 2015 at 18:29, Richard Lawrence wrote:
Hi everyone,
Since discussion seems to have petered out on the previous thread (see:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/94524), I took some time to
go back over the discussion and write up a concrete proposal for
citation
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