Re: [O] "atomic knowledge" modeling tool

[luke call]

On 01/31/16 08:37, Ramon Diaz-Uriarte wrote:
> Thanks for the link. Good-faith question here: does it support spaced
> repetition such as provided by org-drill
> (http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-drill.html) or Anki
> (http://ankisrs.net/), for memorizing some of the stored knowledge? I
> skimmed through the docs and googled for it, but did not find anything
> relevant.

It's interesting that you asked, as i like anki and have planned for 
some time to add that feature to OM.  OM is partly already set up for 
it, just not fully implemented yet.  This has a dependency on another 
future feature which is to associate scripts with objects (entities) in 
the system, so that the menu can also reflect any user-defined 
operations on the entity in view.


Patches/assistance welcome. :)  I'm currently seeing how to get postgres 
to do what OM wants, for windows installation.


You might want to sign up for the announcements list at least.

-Luke

Re: [O] org-beamer-select-environment fails

[Eric S Fraga]

On Monday,  1 Feb 2016 at 14:56, Julien Cubizolles wrote:
> There is something wrong with org-beamer-select-environment. It fails
> with:

I just tried this and it works fine for me.  Maybe tell us a bit more
about your setup, such as what version of org?  And maybe include a
small example?
-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.50.1, Org release_8.3.3-531-g8003ef

Re: [O] [ox-html] Why are dedicated targets automatically renamed?

[Sébastien Brisard]

Hello,

thanks for your answer!

>
>> I have noticed that org-mode now renames dedicated targets. More
>> precisely, the following org file
>>
>> = beginning of a.org =
>>   - <>Item 1
>>   - <>Item 2
>> = end of a.org =
>>
>> gets exported to html as
>>
>> = beginning of a.html (extract) =
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Item 1
>> Item 2
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Author: Sébastien Brisard
>> Created: 2016-01-21 Thu 07:38
>> > href="http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/;>Emacs 24.5.1 (> href="http://orgmode.org;>Org mode 8.3.3)
>> > href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer;>Validate
>> 
>> 
>> = end of a.html =
>>
>> Notice that the targets were renamed item1 -> orgtarget1 and item2 ->
>> orgtarget2. Why is that?
>
> It allows using any kind of character for a target without knowing
> HTML's forbidden ones.
>

Yes, that's what I found on this ML, but I am not sure I follow the logics.

>> With org-publish, it messes up links across files.
>
> What do you mean? <<...>> are internal targets, and by no mean meant to
> link across documents.
>

Oh really? It does work, though. I use this feature on my blog to link
to bibrefs that are in another page. Links like

 [[file:../pages/references.org::#TARI2008][Tariel et al., 2008]]

get exported correctly. Only, the HTML target name is orgtargetXX.
Which means that if I add a new bibliographic reference in the
references.org file, I need to reexport the whole website, rather than
the pages that have changed.

But, if I understand correctly, I should not be using this kind of links anyway?

>> Is there an option that allows to preserve the user's target name on
>> export?
>
> No, there isn't. "ox-latex" provides one, but not "ox-html". Note that
> custom ID are always preserved, tho.
>
Yeah, I have explored a solution using custom IDs. They don't work
with lists, though (I use description lists for my references). Then I
need to define every new bib entry as a header. It's doable, and if
you confirm that what I do at the moment should not be working at all,
then I will switch to this option.

Best,
Sébastien

Re: [O] searching for links [8.3.3 (8.3.3-17-gce80a0-elpaplus @ c:/USR/FJM/APP/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160118/)]

[Francis J. Monari, Esquire]

Kyle,

Thank you.

I also noted that reveal-mode works as well.

I am thinking that maybe I want to write a sentence or two for the manual.

Thank you again.

Frank.


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On 1/28/2016 5:45 PM, Kyle Meyer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> "Francis J. Monari, Esquire"  writes:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> Due to file relocation on the server, I have a number of broken links in
>> an org document.  (problem: broken links.)
>>
>> How can I / Is it possible to search and replace on links?
>> (expectation: I would like to use search and replace to fix the links.)
>>
>> I have tried search and replace, but emacs advises me that links have
>> been filtered out.  (issue: emacs reports that results from the search
>> are filtered-out.)
> 
> isearch filters these out by default.  To avoid this, you can set
> search-invisible to t, but then you don't see what you're replacing.
> 
> Another option is to toggle literal link display with
> org-toggle-link-display, and then run the search and replace as usual.
> 
>> The answer might be a "works as expected".  I would like to remain
>> within the org framework (but using standard search and replace) and
>> accomplish this task.
>>
>> (I thought about forcing the files into a different mode, but I do not
>> want to risk the org file structure.)
> 
> I don't really see any danger in that because it's just plain text and
> it's querying you about what to replace, so I think that's fine too for
> a one-off search and replace.
> 
> --
> Kyle
> 
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> 
> 

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Brian van den Broek]

On Feb 1, 2016 5:21 AM, "Karl Voit"  wrote:
>
> btw, MobileOrg Android v0.9.13
>
> * Ramon Diaz-Uriarte  wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 01-02-2016, at 12:11, Karl Voit  wrote:
> >>



> >> Maybe it has something to do with my disabled sync settings: I don't
> >> sync to the Google cloud.
> >
> > Aha, I think this is probably needed. I think I only get entries
updated if
> > I enable syncing of the calendar (but you can decide what you sync with
> > google --- no need to sync everything, from email to contacts to ).
>
> OK, then MobileOrg -> Calendar feature is of no use to me since I
> avoid the Google cloud.
>



> OK, at least I got a confirmation that MobileOrg needs this cloud
> sync stuff. How unfortunate.

I use an app (from the Play Store) called Offline Calendar. It makes Google
calendars that do not sync. I have mobile org write to a calendar it
creates and never sync calendars on my phone or tablet. It works on my
nexus 7 and my Moto G. It also worked on the Nexus 4 and an ancient 2.x
Android Samsung phone.

Best,

Brian vdB

Re: [O] searching for links [8.3.3 (8.3.3-17-gce80a0-elpaplus @ c:/USR/FJM/APP/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160118/)]

[Nick Dokos]

"Francis J. Monari, Esquire"  writes:

> Due to file relocation on the server, I have a number of broken links in
> an org document.  (problem: broken links.)
>
> How can I / Is it possible to search and replace on links?
> (expectation: I would like to use search and replace to fix the links.)
>
> I have tried search and replace, but emacs advises me that links have
> been filtered out.  (issue: emacs reports that results from the search
> are filtered-out.)
>
> The answer might be a "works as expected".  I would like to remain
> within the org framework (but using standard search and replace) and
> accomplish this task.
>

Nevertheless, one-time global changes, like this, are best handled by
using tools other than an interactive editor. One of the strengths of
org-mode is that org files are plain-text and can therefore be
manipulated by many tools: I would suggest a simple sed script (sed is
available even on Windows through cygwin I think) - something like this

 sed 's/old/new/g' infile > outfile

It is even more advantageous if you have more than one file to change.
Emacs has mechanisms for doing something to many files, but none of them
beats a simple shell loop:

for x in file1 file2 file3 ;do
   sed 's/old/new/g' $x > $x.new
done

--
Nick

Re: [O] "atomic knowledge" modeling tool

[luke call]

On 01/31/16 05:32, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> I'll bite: so what does onemodel solve that org does not do?  Serious
> question as I have gone through the web site and I cannot see the USP of
> this system.

Also a really good question.  I'll state it as compared to what I 
remember of org-mode, but it's been years and I was not a power user. 
For someone who hasn't known of anything like org-mode I'd present it 
differently.


Short version:
1) Faster nagivation, and faster sorting/reorganizing of data, so you 
can do it almost without thinking about the app, just about the info.
2) A given entity (with all eventual references it contains) can be 
present in as many places as you want (effectively link anything 
anywhere as many times as desired).  Go from X to Z in a single 
keystroke, no matter where you are, if you want.

3) Much easier to learn.
4) No artificial boundaries between data: no having to open separate 
files.  Everything can be integrated into one.

5) Extremely large amounts of data without becoming unwieldy.
6) (Not exactly what you asked, but important)  A very different future 
vision because the data in OM is structured to be *computable*, opening 
up features that are hard to do when processing semi-structured text, or 
human language as a primary representation.  A current example of this 
(automatic work journal) is below in the detailed section, with other 
examples.



Longer version (feedback appreciated):

1)
I'm not org-mode power-user but what I recall from my use years ago is 
that I moved away because of the # of keystrokes to do operations, 
having to open different files for different topics, and that one single 
set of notes couldn't be in more than one place.


OM fixes those things, in part by making each thing not a chunk of text 
but an entity (an object), where the data about it is stored in 
attributes which are known by the system to be boolean, url, numeric 
(with unit and type, eg 3 meters length), date, etc, so that in the 
(hopefully near) future those things can be used in calculations.  More 
on that in #8 below.


Example:  I can go from anywhere to "wife gift ideas" by holding down 
ESC briefly then hitting 5gd, which I can don't have to memorize because 
it's always on the screen in each menu as I go.  Or, depending on where 
I am already, I might just hit a single keystroke or two.  Or, quickly 
search from anywhere by typing "42gift ideas", browsing around, and ESC 
back to where I was. etc for any data I want: it's usually just a few 
keystrokes away unless I can't remember any of the 
natural-world-association nagivation paths and have to text search.  I 
can get to my OM to-do list with 5daa.  To my monthly financial 
reminders with 5ac6i but maybe that should be put in a shorter & more 
memorable path.


An example for sorting info:  (I wished for things like this as a 
student.)  I can very quickly create a text outline, adding stuff 
quickly and without thinking about the UI, as one would in drafting text 
for a paper.  But in OM, I can then also move one paragraph (and all 
sub-contents in the outline) up one entry with 23, or down several 
entries with 25 or 26, etc.  I can move an item up into the parent list 
with 8x8 or down into one that should become the parent, with at most 
7y8x7.  Those are automatic now.  Then one could export it as a text 
outline to open in LibreOffice for fonts & printing.  Or export it as 
html which is how I currently create the web site. (Maybe I should add 
some CSS support there).



2)
Same thing in many places:  To link the current entity in at a 
completely different place, you copy part of its name (or id) to the 
clipboard, go to another place (or another open terminal tab), and hit 
42/paste/a or such to insert it at the other place. Now it is in both 
places, or as many as you like. I use this heavily.



3)
Ease of learning:  emacs is powerful and can have a heavy (but 
rewarding) learning curve.  In OM, every operation is always on the 
screen, in a runtime-generated context-driven menu, and is often a 
single keystroke.



4)
Not sure what to add, except it's really nice.


5)
Ditto.  I got tired of moving paragraphs around, just to want to move it 
back, or frequently reopening separate files (years ago), and with OM 
you just jump there or link/inlink with a keystroke or several.



6)
Not exactly what you asked, but: OM has a very different future vision 
for things like cloud use.  And for enabling certain items to be marked 
for "sharing" with others, with ability to for others to watch/link/copy 
etc those items, so that we build up huge shared knowledge bases but 
still have individual control as far as desired.  Sort of like one's own 
personal anki+wikipedia, but not losing the benefits of a global 
wikipedia+freebase.  And more.


A *currently working* example of this is the ~"journal" feature, where 
OM can provide a (today very simple, raw) report on activity in the 
system by a date range: 

Re: [O] status of mobile (Android)

[Melleus]

Saša Janiška  writes:

> Is there something which would work with ownCloud?

Davdroid from F-droid open source repository works with any compatible
with carddav and caldav specifications server including Owncloud.  So
after you got your tasks synced with the android calendar and contacts
with the android contacts you can get them all in your Owncloud (or
whatever you use) as well and vice versa.

Re: [O] ox-tufte-latex

[Titus von der Malsburg]

Hi Tom,

thanks for sharing this.  I’m looking forward to using it.  Do you
happen to have an example file that showcases the features?

  Titus

On 2016-02-01 Mon 16:26, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
> Aloha all,
>
> I've cobbled together an exporter for the Tufte LaTeX classes, which I'd
> like to contribute to Org mode contrib/.  A brief description of the
> derived backend can be found below, and I've attached the
> ox-tufte-latex.el file for the review described on
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html.
>
> I've been using the derived backend for a while now and am happy with
> how it is working.  The Tufte LaTeX classes (especially the book class)
> require quite a bit of set up to work optimally, and I'll be sharing
> what I've learned along these lines in the next couple of weeks.  Org
> mode is a great tool for authoring Tufte LaTeX documents!
>
> All the best,
> Tom
>
> 
>  OX-TUFTE-LATEX
>
>  Thomas S. Dye
> 
>
>
> The file `ox-tufte-latex.el' implements an Org mode export backend for
> the Tufte LaTeX classes, which are designed to produce books and
> handouts in the style developed by Edward Tufte.  The backend is derived
> from `ox-latex.el'.
>
> A characteristic of Tufte's style is a page layout with a wide margin on
> one side (typically the right side) in which notes, references, small
> tables, and small figures are placed.
>
> The Tufte LaTeX classes implement several non-standard LaTeX commands to
> achieve this page layout, including `marginfigure', `margintable', and
> `sidenote'.  `Ox-tufte-latex.el' implements these commands.
>
> The `marginfigure' command is controlled by a new LaTeX attribute
> `:float margin'.  In addition, there are attributes to: set the offset,
> e.g., `:offset 1in', which adjusts the position of the figure up or down
> in the margin; the vertical alignment of figure captions, e.g.,
> `:vertical-alignment t|b', so they align with either the top or bottom
> of the float; and `:horizontal-alignment l|r' in case a figure and its
> caption end up on different pages.
>
> The `margintable' command is controlled by the LaTeX attribute `:float
> margin' associated with a table.
>
> The Org mode footnote mechanism has been hijacked to produce `sidenote'
> commands, instead of `footnote' commands.  The `sidenote' command takes
> an optional parameter for the offset, and this is implemented as a LaTeX
> attribute associated with the Org mode footnote definition, e.g.,
> ┌
> │ #+attr_latex: :offset 36pt
> │ [fn:1] Cook referred to Koa`a as Koah.
> └



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Re: [O] ox-tufte-latex

[Thomas S . Dye]

Aloha Titus,

I have bits and pieces of a tutorial, which I plan to finalize and
contribute to Worg in the next week or two.  I'll let the ML know when I
have it done.

All the best,
Tom

Titus von der Malsburg  writes:

> Hi Tom,
>
> thanks for sharing this.  I’m looking forward to using it.  Do you
> happen to have an example file that showcases the features?
>
>   Titus
>
> On 2016-02-01 Mon 16:26, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
>> Aloha all,
>>
>> I've cobbled together an exporter for the Tufte LaTeX classes, which I'd
>> like to contribute to Org mode contrib/.  A brief description of the
>> derived backend can be found below, and I've attached the
>> ox-tufte-latex.el file for the review described on
>> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html.
>>
>> I've been using the derived backend for a while now and am happy with
>> how it is working.  The Tufte LaTeX classes (especially the book class)
>> require quite a bit of set up to work optimally, and I'll be sharing
>> what I've learned along these lines in the next couple of weeks.  Org
>> mode is a great tool for authoring Tufte LaTeX documents!
>>
>> All the best,
>> Tom
>>
>> 
>>  OX-TUFTE-LATEX
>>
>>  Thomas S. Dye
>> 
>>
>>
>> The file `ox-tufte-latex.el' implements an Org mode export backend for
>> the Tufte LaTeX classes, which are designed to produce books and
>> handouts in the style developed by Edward Tufte.  The backend is derived
>> from `ox-latex.el'.
>>
>> A characteristic of Tufte's style is a page layout with a wide margin on
>> one side (typically the right side) in which notes, references, small
>> tables, and small figures are placed.
>>
>> The Tufte LaTeX classes implement several non-standard LaTeX commands to
>> achieve this page layout, including `marginfigure', `margintable', and
>> `sidenote'.  `Ox-tufte-latex.el' implements these commands.
>>
>> The `marginfigure' command is controlled by a new LaTeX attribute
>> `:float margin'.  In addition, there are attributes to: set the offset,
>> e.g., `:offset 1in', which adjusts the position of the figure up or down
>> in the margin; the vertical alignment of figure captions, e.g.,
>> `:vertical-alignment t|b', so they align with either the top or bottom
>> of the float; and `:horizontal-alignment l|r' in case a figure and its
>> caption end up on different pages.
>>
>> The `margintable' command is controlled by the LaTeX attribute `:float
>> margin' associated with a table.
>>
>> The Org mode footnote mechanism has been hijacked to produce `sidenote'
>> commands, instead of `footnote' commands.  The `sidenote' command takes
>> an optional parameter for the offset, and this is implemented as a LaTeX
>> attribute associated with the Org mode footnote definition, e.g.,
>> ┌
>> │ #+attr_latex: :offset 36pt
>> │ [fn:1] Cook referred to Koa`a as Koah.
>> └


-- 
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com

[O] ox-tufte-latex

[Thomas S . Dye]

Aloha all,

I've cobbled together an exporter for the Tufte LaTeX classes, which I'd
like to contribute to Org mode contrib/.  A brief description of the
derived backend can be found below, and I've attached the
ox-tufte-latex.el file for the review described on
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html.

I've been using the derived backend for a while now and am happy with
how it is working.  The Tufte LaTeX classes (especially the book class)
require quite a bit of set up to work optimally, and I'll be sharing
what I've learned along these lines in the next couple of weeks.  Org
mode is a great tool for authoring Tufte LaTeX documents!

All the best,
Tom


 OX-TUFTE-LATEX

 Thomas S. Dye



The file `ox-tufte-latex.el' implements an Org mode export backend for
the Tufte LaTeX classes, which are designed to produce books and
handouts in the style developed by Edward Tufte.  The backend is derived
from `ox-latex.el'.

A characteristic of Tufte's style is a page layout with a wide margin on
one side (typically the right side) in which notes, references, small
tables, and small figures are placed.

The Tufte LaTeX classes implement several non-standard LaTeX commands to
achieve this page layout, including `marginfigure', `margintable', and
`sidenote'.  `Ox-tufte-latex.el' implements these commands.

The `marginfigure' command is controlled by a new LaTeX attribute
`:float margin'.  In addition, there are attributes to: set the offset,
e.g., `:offset 1in', which adjusts the position of the figure up or down
in the margin; the vertical alignment of figure captions, e.g.,
`:vertical-alignment t|b', so they align with either the top or bottom
of the float; and `:horizontal-alignment l|r' in case a figure and its
caption end up on different pages.

The `margintable' command is controlled by the LaTeX attribute `:float
margin' associated with a table.

The Org mode footnote mechanism has been hijacked to produce `sidenote'
commands, instead of `footnote' commands.  The `sidenote' command takes
an optional parameter for the offset, and this is implemented as a LaTeX
attribute associated with the Org mode footnote definition, e.g.,
┌
│ #+attr_latex: :offset 36pt
│ [fn:1] Cook referred to Koa`a as Koah.
└



ox-tufte-latex.el
Description: Ox-tufte-latex.el


-- 
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com

Re: [O] Bug: wrong-type-argument listp org-level-2 [8.3.3 (8.3.3-26-ge92a06-elpa @ /home/manuel/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160125/)]

[Manuel Uberti]

Thank you very much, I'll wait for the release then.

Kind regards

Manuel Uberti

I prefer to use encrypted email.
GPG fingerprint: 8702 9F53 2466 A6B5 E3F4  6B44 4E57 A6C4 CAA4 8F62

On 31/01/16 23:07, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Manuel Uberti  writes:
> 
>> using latest Org, I get this error whenever I have a link (file: or
>> http:) as a heading.
>>
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument listp org-level-2)
>>   org-activate-plain-links(2510)
>>   font-lock-fontify-keywords-region(1 2510 nil)
>>   font-lock-default-fontify-region(1 2510 nil)
>>   font-lock-fontify-region(1 2510 nil)
>>   font-lock-default-fontify-buffer()
>>   font-lock-fontify-buffer()
> 
> Next ELPA release (tomorrow) will contain the fix for this bug.
> 
> Regards,
> 

[O] bug#22399: org-mode fontification

[Stefan Monnier]

> No, I don't have commit rights.  I'll update the Org side, but, for
> issues that were introduced in the Emacs tree post 24.5, I don't know if
> it's preferable to also update Emacs instead of waiting for the changes
> to come over with a full sync.

Looks like there's no Org people following this, so I installed it into
emacs-25 (IOW it should be fixed in the next (25.0.91) pretest).


Stefan

[O] org-beamer-select-environment fails

[Julien Cubizolles]

There is something wrong with org-beamer-select-environment. It fails with:

--8<---cut here---start->8---

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument listp t)
  delete((org-filtered) t)
  remove((org-filtered) t)
  org-move-to-column(147 t)
  org-fast-tag-show-exit(t)
  org-fast-tag-selection(nil nil ((:startgroup) ("B_againframe" . 65) 
("B_appendix" . 120) ("B_column" . 99) ("B_columns" . 67) ("B_frame" . 102) 
("B_fullframe" . 70) ("B_ignoreheading" . 105) ("B_note" . 110) ("B_noteNH" . 
78) ("B_action" . 107) ("B_only" . 79) ("B_Definition" . 68) ("B_Indispensable" 
. 73) ("B_Consequence" . 83) ("B_Block" . 66) ("B_Theoreme" . 84) ("B_Exemple" 
. 88) ("B_block" . 98) ("B_alertblock" . 97) ("B_verse" . 118) ("B_quotation" . 
113) ("B_quote" . 81) ("B_structureenv" . 115) ("B_theorem" . 116) 
("B_definition" . 100) ("B_example" . 101) ("B_exampleblock" . 69) ("B_proof" . 
112) ("B_beamercolorbox" . 111) (:endgroup) ("BMCOL" . 124)) nil)
  org-set-tags()
  org-beamer-select-environment()
  funcall-interactively(org-beamer-select-environment)
  call-interactively(org-beamer-select-environment nil nil)
  command-execute(org-beamer-select-environment)
  --8<---cut here---end--->8---


Julien.

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Karl Voit]

btw, MobileOrg Android v0.9.13

* Ramon Diaz-Uriarte  wrote:
>
> On Mon, 01-02-2016, at 12:11, Karl Voit  wrote:
>>
>> Contrary to many mentions on the mailinglist, this feature never
>> worked at my side as well:
>
> Hummm... I am just looking at the config in my phone (with Android 5). I
> have checked "Synchronize with calendar". 

Check.

> The calendar name is set to "org-calendar" (I think that is the
> default, since I do not recall ever having changed/set it). 

Mine is "Org". But in my calendar app, there is no "Org" calendar,
just three others.

> Under "Advanced" I set "Assimilate calendar entries" (this I find
> very useful for the odd case when i enter things in the android
> calendar directly).  I have NOT checked "Delete on assimilation".

Same here.

> I do not understand why the following is leading to trouble, so I think I
> am seriously misunderstanding something. 
>
>> Current situation: in MobileOrg settings, I want to choose a
>> calendar which gets populated by MobileOrg.
>
> I do not recall ever having to do anything especial here.
>
>> In the list of available calendars
>
> You mean the list that is available when you try to set the options under
> "Calendar name"?

Yes.

> I see there six entries (one for my gmail user, one for "PC Sync" that I
> have no idea what it is, then "org-calendar", a fourth called "Cumpleaños"
> [birthdays] and then "Holidays in Spain" and a sixth one which seems to be
> the same but in Spanish).

I do have three entries, non of them named "Org".

Whenever I choose an existing calendar within MobileOrg preferences,
it stays at the non-existing "Org" calendar. I guess this is the
reason why there is no data sync to my calendar.

>> I can choose whatever calendar I want but afterwards, MobileOrg shows
>> "Org" (the default one) as the selected calendar.
>
> If I understand correctly, this is used by MobileOrg to place its entries
> in a calendar that the Android calendar will use. When the entries are
> displayed in your Android calendar, you'll see these as coming from "Org"
> (or mobile-org).

Exactly.

> Why would you not want to set it to "Org"?

I don't have an existing "Org" calendar and I could not figure out
how to create it in my calendar app and MobileOrg obviously doesn't
create it on its own.

>> Maybe it has something to do with my disabled sync settings: I don't
>> sync to the Google cloud.
>
> Aha, I think this is probably needed. I think I only get entries updated if
> I enable syncing of the calendar (but you can decide what you sync with
> google --- no need to sync everything, from email to contacts to ).

OK, then MobileOrg -> Calendar feature is of no use to me since I
avoid the Google cloud.

That's really weird since this feature is especially useful to
people not having Google Cloud sync activated.

>> I gave up and use MobileOrg mainly for capturing and (seldom)
>> browsing my Org files for information.

OK, at least I got a confirmation that MobileOrg needs this cloud
sync stuff. How unfortunate.

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Re: [O] Radio target appears as a link in html export (in Emacs stable)

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

die...@duenenhof-wilhelm.de (H. Dieter Wilhelm) writes:

> Nicolas Goaziou  writes:
>
>> die...@duenenhof-wilhelm.de (H. Dieter Wilhelm) writes:
>>
>>> But then I would have to turn all my radio links into proper links,
>>> which I see no method - except with radio targets - to do this
>>> automatically.
>>
>> Instead of 
>>
>>   <<>> ... radio
>>
>> you would have to type
>>
>>   <>   ... [[radio]]
>>
>> which, IMO, is almost equally simple.
>
> Hmmm, that is true.  In the worst case I've to get used to it...

Actually, it is slightly more complicated:

  <> ... [[radio][radio]]

>>> The radio links are turned correctly into links. :-)
>>>
>>> But the targets (anchors) appear *also* as links (in HTML).  Which is
>>> confusing and redundant because there are not linked to anything.
>>
>> I'm confused, mainly because I'm not well versed in HTML. Let's consider
>> the following document:
>>
>>   <<>> :target link: radio
>>
>> When exporting it to HTML, I get the following:
>>
>>   radio :target link: > href="#orgradiotarget1">radio
>
>
> I'm getting  instead,
> which *appears* in my html page as a link (which is wrong IMHO, Org-mode
> version 8.2.10, Emacs stable).

IIUC, the only difference with my output is the "name" attribute. You
may want to check `org-html-allow-name-attribute-in-anchors'.

> I would expect an invisible html entity or just the apperance of the
> text "orgradiotarget1".

The latter is indeed expected. 

Assuming the variable above is non-nil, which would explain your output,
we could consider to ignore it altogether for radio targets. Again, I'm
not much into HTML so I don't know if that's a good idea (e.g., is there
any use for an anchor with both an id and a name attribute in the
context of radio targets?).

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] New error when setting the publishing directory

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Julien Cubizolles  writes:

> I've been using the following for a long time to export to a remote ftp
> site. 
>
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp :exports none
>   (setq org-export-in-background t)
>   (setq org-publish-project-alist
>  '(("orgfiles"
>  :publishing-directory "/ftp:login@ftpserver:"
>  )))
> #+end_src
>
>
> Since a few days, this fails with:
>
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument listp org-table)

It is fixed in latest release from Org ELPA.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Ramon Diaz-Uriarte]

On Mon, 01-02-2016, at 12:11, Karl Voit  wrote:
> * cschr  wrote:
>>
>> I set up MobileOrg and it now shows the appointments from my emacs diary and
>> my orgmode agenda. But nothing shows in my local android calendar, although
>> I configured MobileOrg to sync with the android calendar. Is this
>> functionality known to work, at all, and are there any special preconditions
>> ?   I tried with two different smartphones - a Sony Xperia Pro with Android
>> 4.0.4, and a Mobistel Cygnus with Android 4.4.2
>
> Contrary to many mentions on the mailinglist, this feature never
> worked at my side as well:


Hummm... I am just looking at the config in my phone (with Android 5). I
have checked "Synchronize with calendar". The calendar name is set to
"org-calendar" (I think that is the default, since I do not recall ever
having changed/set it). Under "Advanced" I set "Assimilate calendar
entries" (this I find very useful for the odd case when i enter things in
the android calendar directly).  I have NOT checked "Delete on
assimilation".


>
> Nexus 5 with CyanogenMod 12.1-20150808-NIGHTLY-hammerhead (Android
> 5.1.1)
>



I do not understand why the following is leading to trouble, so I think I
am seriously misunderstanding something. 

> Current situation: in MobileOrg settings, I want to choose a
> calendar which gets populated by MobileOrg.

I do not recall ever having to do anything especial here.

> In the list of available calendars

You mean the list that is available when you try to set the options under
"Calendar name"?

I see there six entries (one for my gmail user, one for "PC Sync" that I
have no idea what it is, then "org-calendar", a fourth called "Cumpleaños"
[birthdays] and then "Holidays in Spain" and a sixth one which seems to be
the same but in Spanish).

> I can choose whatever calendar I want but afterwards, MobileOrg shows
> "Org" (the default one) as the selected calendar.

If I understand correctly, this is used by MobileOrg to place its entries
in a calendar that the Android calendar will use. When the entries are
displayed in your Android calendar, you'll see these as coming from "Org"
(or mobile-org).


Why would you not want to set it to "Org"?

>
> Maybe it has something to do with my disabled sync settings: I don't
> sync to the Google cloud.

Aha, I think this is probably needed. I think I only get entries updated if
I enable syncing of the calendar (but you can decide what you sync with
google --- no need to sync everything, from email to contacts to ).



>
> I gave up and use MobileOrg mainly for capturing and (seldom)
> browsing my Org files for information.


-- 
Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
Department of Biochemistry, Lab B-25
Facultad de Medicina
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid 
Arzobispo Morcillo, 4
28029 Madrid
Spain

Phone: +34-91-497-2412

Email: rdia...@gmail.com
   ramon.d...@iib.uam.es

http://ligarto.org/rdiaz

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Karl Voit]

* cschr  wrote:
>
> I set up MobileOrg and it now shows the appointments from my emacs diary and
> my orgmode agenda. But nothing shows in my local android calendar, although
> I configured MobileOrg to sync with the android calendar. Is this
> functionality known to work, at all, and are there any special preconditions
> ?   I tried with two different smartphones - a Sony Xperia Pro with Android
> 4.0.4, and a Mobistel Cygnus with Android 4.4.2

Contrary to many mentions on the mailinglist, this feature never
worked at my side as well:

Nexus 5 with CyanogenMod 12.1-20150808-NIGHTLY-hammerhead (Android
5.1.1)

Current situation: in MobileOrg settings, I want to choose a
calendar which gets populated by MobileOrg. In the list of available
calendars I can choose whatever calendar I want but afterwards,
MobileOrg shows "Org" (the default one) as the selected calendar.

Maybe it has something to do with my disabled sync settings: I don't
sync to the Google cloud.

I gave up and use MobileOrg mainly for capturing and (seldom)
browsing my Org files for information.

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Re: [O] ascii sublist indentation configurable?

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Samuel Wales  writes:

> ascii export i get
>
>   8) low
>- prefer
>
> - is indented too far

I cannot reproduce it. Maybe some configuration on your side?

> configurable?

It is, with filters.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] Radio target appears as a link in html export (in Emacs stable)

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Correcting myself,

>> I would expect an invisible html entity or just the apperance of the
>> text "orgradiotarget1".
>
> The latter is indeed expected.

What is really expected is to display the contents of the radio target,
without being a link.

Re: [O] "atomic knowledge" modeling tool

[Robert Klein]

Hi,

luke call  wrote:

> There's a program that org-mode users (as I have been) specifically 
> might be interested in, a personal "knowledge manager"/list 
> manager/organizer/etc called OneModel (Free/AGPL).  Instead of
> storing data as text, it puts *everything* in a single object model
> backed by postgresql, but text import/export are available.
> Everything one needs to know at any given time is always on the
> screen, and it is *highly* efficient to navigate (so far
> keyboard-only).  Current strengths, limitations, and future plans are
> at: http://onemodel.org
> 
> Pls forgive & spare the flames, I'll probably go quiet unless to
> answer good-faith questions.  Details & discussion at
> http://onemodel.org site/lists if desired.


So I have to actually pay for export (C-c C-e in org-mode and more
formats to export to), searching (C-s and C-r in emacs,
probably more in org-mode) and /maybe/ recent bugfixes? And probably no
Emacs shortcut keys.

You've been told not to advertise on openbsd-misc.  As your 'product' is
not relevant to org-mode, I suggest the same applies to the org-mode
list, too.

If you have to offer a exporter for org-mode exporting stuff to your
product you're very welcome to present it here.


Best regards
Robert

Re: [O] Radio target appears as a link in html export (in Emacs stable)

[H. Dieter Wilhelm]

Nicolas Goaziou  writes:

>> I would expect an invisible html entity or just the apperance of the
>> text "orgradiotarget1".
>
> The latter is indeed expected. 

Thanks for the confirmation

> Assuming the variable above is non-nil, which would explain your output,
> we could consider to ignore it altogether for radio targets. Again, I'm

  org-html-allow-name-attribute-in-anchors is a variable defined in 
`ox-html.el'.
  Its value is t

Thanks, didn't know about this config. variable and it's working, the
anchor is then exported without a name...  But still appears as a link
in *my* html page :-(.  I conclude the problem is within the css file
I'm using for this particular site. (Please see the following comment)

> not much into HTML so I don't know if that's a good idea (e.g., is there
> any use for an anchor with both an id and a name attribute in the
> context of radio targets?).

I don't think so, with a simple org test file I'm getting the behaviour
you would expect - despite a named anchor - the target doesn't appear as
link, just a regular text.  Thank you very much, I have now a path to
look for.

  Dieter

-- 
Best wishes
H. Dieter Wilhelm
Darmstadt, Germany

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Ramon Diaz-Uriarte]

On Mon, 01-02-2016, at 14:20, Karl Voit  wrote:

(I remove lots of stuff from previous thread)

>
>> The calendar name is set to "org-calendar" (I think that is the
>> default, since I do not recall ever having changed/set it). 
>
> Mine is "Org". But in my calendar app, there is no "Org" calendar,
> just three others.

No idea why that happens.

>
>
>> I see there six entries (one for my gmail user, one for "PC Sync" that I
>> have no idea what it is, then "org-calendar", a fourth called "Cumpleaños"
>> [birthdays] and then "Holidays in Spain" and a sixth one which seems to be
>> the same but in Spanish).
>
> I do have three entries, non of them named "Org".
>
> Whenever I choose an existing calendar within MobileOrg preferences,
> it stays at the non-existing "Org" calendar. I guess this is the
> reason why there is no data sync to my calendar.

No idea what is happening there.


>
>>> Maybe it has something to do with my disabled sync settings: I don't
>>> sync to the Google cloud.
>>
>> Aha, I think this is probably needed. I think I only get entries updated if
>> I enable syncing of the calendar (but you can decide what you sync with
>> google --- no need to sync everything, from email to contacts to ).
>
> OK, then MobileOrg -> Calendar feature is of no use to me since I
> avoid the Google cloud.
>
> That's really weird since this feature is especially useful to
> people not having Google Cloud sync activated.
>
>>> I gave up and use MobileOrg mainly for capturing and (seldom)
>>> browsing my Org files for information.
>
> OK, at least I got a confirmation that MobileOrg needs this cloud
> sync stuff. How unfortunate.

I am not 100% sure if syncing the calendar with google is _required_. I'll
try playing with it ASAP and report back.





-- 
Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
Department of Biochemistry, Lab B-25
Facultad de Medicina
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid 
Arzobispo Morcillo, 4
28029 Madrid
Spain

Phone: +34-91-497-2412

Email: rdia...@gmail.com
   ramon.d...@iib.uam.es

http://ligarto.org/rdiaz

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Karl Voit]

* Ramon Diaz-Uriarte  wrote:
>
> On Mon, 01-02-2016, at 14:20, Karl Voit  wrote:
>
>>> The calendar name is set to "org-calendar" (I think that is the
>>> default, since I do not recall ever having changed/set it). 
>>
>> Mine is "Org". But in my calendar app, there is no "Org" calendar,
>> just three others.
>
> No idea why that happens.
>
>> Whenever I choose an existing calendar within MobileOrg preferences,
>> it stays at the non-existing "Org" calendar. I guess this is the
>> reason why there is no data sync to my calendar.
>
> No idea what is happening there.

Okay. A little bit confused now:

When I checked MobileOrg a couple of minutes ago, I did see some
(not all!) Org-mode events for the first time. Only scheduled
things, no events with time-slots. I did not check any further.

I recognized, that MobileOrg settings is showing me the previously
selected existing calendar.

In calendar, I noticed that sync was activated. Gr. I hate it,
when something silently leaks my private data to the public cloud!

After I disabled the sync-checkboxes for my three calendars, the
Org-mode events were gone again.

Quite disappointing, the whole story.

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