Re: [O] Using an org based init file slows down emacs startup by 50x..help needed :(

2016-12-12 Thread Xebar Saram
thx all

Grant, thats interesting since i did start with the bisecting method and
couldnt identify the culprit.

again using the method here

https://bitbucket.org/holgerschurig/emacsconf/src/416b2bba2d1d334b9c6ddbd56f8c7f8bd8bc4aab?at=master

works SUPER fast (~10 seconds) so for now ill stick with it until i find
the culprit

very strange though

best

Z

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Grant Rettke 
wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 2:36 AM, Xebar Saram  wrote:
> > So after a few months of frustration today i discovered the issue that's
> > been bothering me for a long time..the REALLY slow emacs startup
>
> I tangled it on my box like this:
>
> Start Emacs default
>
> emacs --no-init-file
>
> (emacs-version)
>
> "GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin15.4.0, NS apple-appkit-1404.46)
>  of 2016-06-08 on vela"
>
> (org-version)
>
> "8.2.10"
>
> In Emacs I evaluated
>
> (defmacro measure-time ( body)
>   "Measure the time it takes to evaluate BODY."
>   `(let ((time (current-time)))
>  ,@body
>  (message "%.06f" (float-time (time-since time)
>
> And timed and tangled it.
>
> It took approximately 8 minutes.
>
> When I tangle it using my config it takes approximately 11 seconds.
>
> I would start with a bisection of the file to try and narrow down when
> and where the slowdown occurs.
>


[O] [PATCH] ox-confluence.el: Support quote blocks

2016-12-12 Thread Lungang Fang
* contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el (org-confluence-quote-block): new function

Convert quote blocks as shown below:
#+BEGIN_QUOTE   {quote}
This is a quote   ==>   This is a quote
#+END_QUOTE {quote}
---
 contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el | 4 
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)

diff --git a/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el b/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el
index de8b00e..9518486 100644
--- a/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el
+++ b/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el
@@ -50,6 +50,7 @@
 (link . org-confluence-link)
 (paragraph . org-confluence-paragraph)
 (property-drawer . org-confluence-property-drawer)
+(quote-block . org-confluence-quote-block)
 (section . org-confluence-section)
 (src-block . org-confluence-src-block)
 (strike-through . org-confluence-strike-through)
@@ -128,6 +129,9 @@ a communication channel."
   (and (org-string-nw-p contents)
(format "\{\{%s\}\}" contents)))

+(defun org-confluence-quote-block (quote-block contents info)
+  (format "{quote}\n%s{quote}" contents))
+
 (defun org-confluence-section (section contents info)
   contents)

--
2.9.3 (Apple Git-75)


[O] [PATCH] ox-confluence.el: Fix error in `org-confluence-fixed-width`

2016-12-12 Thread Lungang Fang
* contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el (org-confluence-fixed-width): retrieve
  value of org element "fixed-width" instead of using "content", which
  is empty.
---
 contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el | 3 ++-
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el b/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el
index de8b00e..98d9ed5 100644
--- a/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el
+++ b/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el
@@ -89,7 +89,8 @@
 (org-trim contents

 (defun org-confluence-fixed-width (fixed-width contents info)
-  (format "\{\{%s\}\}" contents))
+  (format "\{\{%s\}\}"
+ (org-trim (org-element-property :value fixed-width

 (defun org-confluence-verbatim (verbatim contents info)
   (format "\{\{%s\}\}" (org-element-property :value verbatim)))
--
2.9.3 (Apple Git-75)


[O] [PATCH] ox-confluence.el: Fix error in `org-confluence-fixed-width`

2016-12-12 Thread Lungang Fang
* contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el (org-confluence-fixed-width): retrieve
  value of org element "fixed-width" instead of using "content", which
  is empty.
---
 contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el | 3 ++-
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el b/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el
index de8b00e..98d9ed5 100644
--- a/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el
+++ b/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el
@@ -89,7 +89,8 @@
 (org-trim contents

 (defun org-confluence-fixed-width (fixed-width contents info)
-  (format "\{\{%s\}\}" contents))
+  (format "\{\{%s\}\}"
+ (org-trim (org-element-property :value fixed-width

 (defun org-confluence-verbatim (verbatim contents info)
   (format "\{\{%s\}\}" (org-element-property :value verbatim)))
--
2.9.3 (Apple Git-75)


Re: [O] including external file in src block execution; ATTR_HTML on src blocks

2016-12-12 Thread Charles C. Berry

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016, Matt Price wrote:


On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Charles C. Berry  wrote:


On Mon, 12 Dec 2016, Matt Price wrote:


[snip]



My questions are:
1. can I pass this html attribute to the  block somehow?



Yes.

ATTR_HTML doesn't seem to work.  Is this a bug? If so, should I try to fix

it?



No and no.

Did you try

: (plist-get (cadr src-block) :attr_html)

in `org-html-src-block' ?



ah, ok.  Now I will reveal some of the depths of my ignorance.  Looks like
:attr_html is a plist (right?).


No, it is a property name. (cadr src-block) is the plist.

See (info "(elisp) Property Lists")



(a) what is the appropriate way to identify an attribute here.  should I
write, e.g.:

#+ATTR_HTML: :data-external-libs "http://underscorejs.org/underscore-min.js;
:class "list of classes"


Any could be made to work, but I'd use (a). Then

: (org-babel-parse-header-arguments
:  (car (plist-get (cadr src-block) :attr_html)))

will give you

: ((:data-external-libs . "http://underscorejs.org/underscore-min.js;) 
:   (:class . "list of classes"))



or:
#+ATTR_HTML: data-external-libs "http://underscorejs.org/underscore-min.js;
class "list of classes"
or
#+ATTR_HTML: "data-external-libs" "http://underscorejs.org/underscore-min.js;
"class" "list of classes"

And then, if I want to transform this into:

data-external-libs="http://underscorejs.org/underscore-min.js; class="list
of classes"

can I just do something like:
(let ((attributes (org-export-get-attribute :attr_html src-block))
 (cl-loop for (key value) in attributes
   (collect (concat key "=" "\"" value "\" " 

or do I need to transform the key into a string first?


Well, I'd just try it and see.


I'm sorry to be writing such basic lisp questions; obviously I need to read
a really good lisp introduction, but I haven't found one yet.



This is what I use:

* Elisp: (elisp).   The Emacs Lisp Reference Manual.
* Emacs Lisp Intro: (eintr).A simple introduction to Emacs Lisp programming.

and ample Googling, usually leading to StackOverflow, to get hints on 
stuff I am fuzzy on. And I read docstrings over and over and ...


Best,

Chuck



[O] id links have no reference

2016-12-12 Thread Samuel Wales
org 9.

in ascii export, id links to nodes that are being exported
do not have any referent.  this source prints the id but
there is no referent for it.

It is firmly outside the [scope of this post]
(id:ab33e255f-b9f7-2fc7-6d3b-1c88ddd65590) to ask if
that sounds familiar in the UK.

the id points to Conclusion.  i
expected that in ascii export Conclusion would show its id
so that people could follow the link, even if only by
searching in their text editors or browsers.



Re: [O] [bug] org 9 hangs on link search

2016-12-12 Thread Samuel Wales
file links don't hang now, thanks.

however, if the header to be searched consists of only a link, it
fails to find the link.  perhaps it needs regexp-quote.

  * [[file:/home/a/b.org::*add%20another%20link%20bug][add another
link bug]]



Re: [O] [PATCH] Add support for ordered list to ox-confluence.el

2016-12-12 Thread Charles Durst
Oops, I just realized an important difference.  My version also
supported descriptive lists.  The version with only Nicholas' changes
will lose the item name:

* item-name :: description

Will just become

- description

Here is a fix based on Nicholas' version:


* contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el (org-confluence-item): Support
  descriptive list

When converting a descriptive list item, be sure to include the "item"
part, not just the description.

TINYCHANGE
---
 contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el | 6 +-
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el b/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el
index de8b00e..a1318f9 100644
--- a/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el
+++ b/contrib/lisp/ox-confluence.el
@@ -83,9 +83,13 @@
 (defun org-confluence-item (item contents info)
   (let* ((plain-list (org-export-get-parent item))
  (type (org-element-property :type plain-list))
- (bullet (if (eq type `ordered) ?\# ?\-)))
+ (bullet (if (eq type 'ordered) ?\# ?\-)))
 (concat (make-string (1+ (org-confluence--li-depth item)) bullet)
 " "
+(if (eq type 'descriptive)
+ (concat "*"
+ (org-export-data (org-element-property :tag item) info)
+ "* - "))
 (org-trim contents

 (defun org-confluence-fixed-width (fixed-width contents info)
-- 
2.5.4 (Apple Git-61)


On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 2:54 AM, Lungang Fang  wrote:
> Hi Nicolas and Charles,
>
> Thank you both.
>
> Lungang
>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Nicolas Goaziou 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Lungang Fang  writes:
>>
>> > Great! Then, what about using my patch ? It would be my first patch
>> > adopted
>> > by any open source project, a real milestone  :)
>>
>> Applied. Thanks to both of you.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Nicolas Goaziou
>
>



Re: [O] org-depend: dependencies between TODO entries in different files

2016-12-12 Thread Christophe Schockaert

Hi all,


Karl Voit writes:
> Oh my goodness - free wishes for org-depend? Christmas is rather
> early this year! ;-)
Indeed, that's wonderful ^^

> OK, let's do some brain storming ...
As a summary from my sight point, I am totally inline with Karl for the
feature set:

  - Personnally, I am ready to care about state consistency myself, so
letting the user responsible for it
  
  - Same wish about scheduling arbitrary actions by making use of IDs:
either absolute or relative
  
  - I would also have use of different state transitions: DONE => TODO ;
CANCELLED => CANCELLED


Besides that, I wonder if/how we could automate the following course of
actions:

  - let have point on an entry
  
  - create a new "TODO-like" entry as a link to that entry
  
  - assign an ID to both entries: lets say "ID-original" and "ID-duplicate"

  - in the new entry: define a BLOCKER property set on "ID-original"

  - in the original entry: define a TRIGGER property set as
ID-duplicate(DONE)


At first sight:

- the new entry could be created besides the original or in a file where
  it is ready to refile

- the TODO state in the new entry could be set with a default, I think
  it is so easy to switch afterwards with Org keystrokes

- the triggered state might better be a parameter (possibly a customized
  default as "TODO"): otherwise, it would be necessary to go inside the
  drawer to change it


Currently, I am doing all this manually, quite often. I am not sure if a
capture template can offer that. It's on my plan to look after it for
some time, but I didn't do it yet. The tricky part is the cross-link
creation and storage. So, as we are discussion on the topic, I just
share what is on my mind about it :)

I wish it can bring something useful,
Feedbacks are welcome,


Christophe

-- 
--->  mailto:r3vli...@citadels.eu
Once it's perfectly aimed, the flying arrow goes straight to its target.
Thus, don't worry when things go right.
There will be enough time to worry about if they go wrong.
Then, it's time to fire a new arrow towards another direction.
Don't sink.  Adapt yourself !  The archer has to shoot accurately and quickly.
[Words of Erenthar, the bowman ranger] <---



[O] org-capture-template :clock-in property not working

2016-12-12 Thread Mark Wood
After recently upgrading to 20161118, I notice that the clock-in property
in my org-capture-templates is no longer functioning.  It appears to
successfully clock me out of my current task, but that's it.

My capture template is:

(setq org-capture-templates
  '(("t" "Todo" entry (file "/org/refile.org")
"* TODO %?\n%U\n" :clock-in t :clock-resume t)))

I'm running Emacs 25.1.1 on Windows.


Re: [O] Using an org based init file slows down emacs startup by 50x..help needed :(

2016-12-12 Thread Grant Rettke
On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 2:36 AM, Xebar Saram  wrote:
> So after a few months of frustration today i discovered the issue that's
> been bothering me for a long time..the REALLY slow emacs startup

I tangled it on my box like this:

Start Emacs default

emacs --no-init-file

(emacs-version)

"GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin15.4.0, NS apple-appkit-1404.46)
 of 2016-06-08 on vela"

(org-version)

"8.2.10"

In Emacs I evaluated

(defmacro measure-time ( body)
  "Measure the time it takes to evaluate BODY."
  `(let ((time (current-time)))
 ,@body
 (message "%.06f" (float-time (time-since time)

And timed and tangled it.

It took approximately 8 minutes.

When I tangle it using my config it takes approximately 11 seconds.

I would start with a bisection of the file to try and narrow down when
and where the slowdown occurs.



Re: [O] org-depend: dependencies between TODO entries in different files

2016-12-12 Thread Karl Voit
* Samuel Wales  wrote:
> On 12/12/16, Carsten Dominik  wrote:
>> broadly about what it should be able to do.  Is there specific
>> functionality it also should support, besides the TRIGGER/BLOCKER functions
>> it has right now?
>
> it can make a remote task get scheduled upon doneifying current task?

When I understand
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-depend.html
correctly, this is only possible via chain-siblings-scheduled and
this is not that easy for arbitrary tasks using an ID-property.

I mentioned this as a nice-to-have feature in my previous email.

-- 
mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode:
   > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs <

https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github




Re: [O] including external file in src block execution; ATTR_HTML on src blocks

2016-12-12 Thread Matt Price
On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Charles C. Berry  wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016, Matt Price wrote:
>
>
> [snip]
>
>
>> My questions are:
>> 1. can I pass this html attribute to the  block somehow?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
> ATTR_HTML doesn't seem to work.  Is this a bug? If so, should I try to fix
>> it?
>>
>
> No and no.
>
> Did you try
>
> : (plist-get (cadr src-block) :attr_html)
>
> in `org-html-src-block' ?
>
>
ah, ok.  Now I will reveal some of the depths of my ignorance.  Looks like
:attr_html is a plist (right?).
(a) what is the appropriate way to identify an attribute here.  should I
write, e.g.:

#+ATTR_HTML: :data-external-libs "http://underscorejs.org/underscore-min.js;
:class "list of classes"
or:
 #+ATTR_HTML: data-external-libs "http://underscorejs.org/underscore-min.js;
class "list of classes"
or
#+ATTR_HTML: "data-external-libs" "http://underscorejs.org/underscore-min.js;
"class" "list of classes"

And then, if I want to transform this into:

data-external-libs="http://underscorejs.org/underscore-min.js; class="list
of classes"

can I just do something like:
(let ((attributes (org-export-get-attribute :attr_html src-block))
  (cl-loop for (key value) in attributes
(collect (concat key "=" "\"" value "\" " 

or do I need to transform the key into a string first?
I'm sorry to be writing such basic lisp questions; obviously I need to read
a really good lisp introduction, but I haven't found one yet.

>
> If not, is there a simple way to use header arguments to pass
>> information down?
>>
>
> The answer is still no. ;-)
>
> There are complicated ways. See
>
> https://github.com/chasberry/orgmode-accessories/blob/ravel-
> lang/ox-ravel.org
>
> for one such. But for what you are doing ATTR_HTML is easiest.
>
> I will take the easiest please!

>
> I am already rewriting the exporter's src-block export
>> function, so I can try to accomplish what I need to in that context.
>>
>
> BTW, the cleanest way to do this is by writing a derived exporter:
>
> :  (org-export-define-derived-backend 'reveal 'revealplus ...
>
> In your case you only provide the src-block entry for the
> :translate-alist, :options-alist entries for any you redefine or introduce,
> and optionally a :menu-entry.
>
> Also, you'll probably want to add a hook to `org-export-before-parsing-hook'
> (see below).
>
>
> If you do this, then `#+ATTR_REVEALPLUS:' seems suitable.
>

right. Up till now I have been hoping to integrate these change sback into
ox-reveal, but now it's starting to feel a bit invasive.  I may try this
route.

>
> 2. I'd like to be able to test my code directly in org (since I'm a lousy
>> coder and a clumsy typist). Can I tell org to load other files before
>> executing a src block?
>>
>
> Yes. Depending on what you want one of these:
>
> * Add this to `org-export-before-parsing-hook', perhaps in setting up a
>   derived exporter.
>
> * Or perhaps by using a local variable `eval' see
>
> : (info "(emacs) Specifying File Variables")
>
> * Or by executing a src-block that loads those files.
>

I think this might be the best route, since I would probably want to load
such files on a block-by-block basis.

>
> HTH,
>
> Chuck
>
very much, I think!


Re: [O] user labels in beamer export

2016-12-12 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

Eric S Fraga  writes:

> If I have the following org,
>
> #+begin_src org
>   ,#+TITLE: LaTeX export minimal test
>   ,* Intro
>   :PROPERTIES:
>   :CUSTOM_ID: introduction
>   :END:
>   This is the first slide.
>   ,* Summary
>   As we saw on slide [[#introduction]], ...
> #+end_src
>
>
> I get the following LaTeX generated:
>
> #+begin_src latex
>   \begin{frame}[label=introduction]{Intro}
>   This is the first slide.
>   \end{frame}
>
>   \begin{frame}[label={sec:orgdc0a2c3}]{Summary}
>   As we saw on slide \ref{sec-1}, \ldots{}
>   \end{frame}
> #+end_src
>
> (elided for size).  Note that internally generated labels of the form
> orgXX are not generated but instead org generates "sec-1" instead of
> using \ref{introduction}.
>
> I have org-latex-prefer-user-labels set to t.
>
> Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug in org?

The latter. I fixed it on maint. Thank you.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou



Re: [O] org-depend: dependencies between TODO entries in different files

2016-12-12 Thread Samuel Wales
On 12/12/16, Carsten Dominik  wrote:
> broadly about what it should be able to do.  Is there specific
> functionality it also should support, besides the TRIGGER/BLOCKER functions
> it has right now?

it can make a remote task get scheduled upon doneifying current task?



[O] org ELPA broken (was: Re: Bug: bug for org-compile-file on Windows)

2016-12-12 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Has the URL for Org ELPA moved?  Because if I look at
http://orgmode.org/elpa/, I don't see any updates since 11/18?

Assuming the build-org-pkg.txt file is intended to be a record of the
build process, it would appear there is an error preventing the code
from building correctly.

Mike.

Nicolas Goaziou  writes:

> Hello,
>
> Mirko Vukovic  writes:
>
>> I was not able to preview latex fragments using
>> org-toggle-latex-fragment (C-c C-x C-l)
>>
>> I traced the problem to the (shell-command ...) in org-compile-file
>> during the dvipng step.
>>
>> The problem was in the formatting of the destination file (the -o switch).
>> It consists
>> of the directory and filename.  Both were enclosed in double quotes, so
>> that when concatenated the string looked like this:
>> \"path\"\"filename\".extension
>
> Thanks. However, this issue was fixed a few days ago. The fix should be
> available in today's Org ELPA, or in the yet to be released Org 9.0.2.
>
> Regards,



Re: [O] exporting # to latex?

2016-12-12 Thread Charles C. Berry

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016, Sharon Kimble wrote:



I'm trying to write an org-mode file that is being exported to latex,
and then built into a pdf file, of the MPD online manual.

I'm now trying to show the 'mpf.conf' file which is mostly with
commented out lines starting with a hash (#). But that breaks the
org-mode export, so how can I have it displayed and exported to latex
please?


[deleted]



So what I'm trying to get is a latex file which includes the .conf file
and all of its # in the right place and show as # on their own. But how
can I do it please?




One of these?


--8<---cut here---start->8---

#+BEGIN_EXAMPLE
  ## abc
  ## def
#+END_EXAMPLE

#+BEGIN_EXPORT latex
## abc
## def
#+END_EXPORT

--8<---cut here---end--->8---

Upon export to latex they yield:

--8<---cut here---start->8---

\begin{verbatim}
## abc
## def
\end{verbatim}

## abc
## def

--8<---cut here---end--->8---


HTH,

Chuck



Re: [O] including external file in src block execution; ATTR_HTML on src blocks

2016-12-12 Thread Charles C. Berry

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016, Matt Price wrote:


[snip]



My questions are:
1. can I pass this html attribute to the  block somehow?


Yes.


ATTR_HTML doesn't seem to work.  Is this a bug? If so, should I try to fix
it?


No and no.

Did you try

: (plist-get (cadr src-block) :attr_html)

in `org-html-src-block' ?



If not, is there a simple way to use header arguments to pass
information down?


The answer is still no. ;-)

There are complicated ways. See

https://github.com/chasberry/orgmode-accessories/blob/ravel-lang/ox-ravel.org

for one such. But for what you are doing ATTR_HTML is easiest.



I am already rewriting the exporter's src-block export
function, so I can try to accomplish what I need to in that context.


BTW, the cleanest way to do this is by writing a derived exporter:

:  (org-export-define-derived-backend 'reveal 'revealplus ...

In your case you only provide the src-block entry for the 
:translate-alist, :options-alist entries for any you redefine or 
introduce, and optionally a :menu-entry.


Also, you'll probably want to add a hook to 
`org-export-before-parsing-hook' (see below).



If you do this, then `#+ATTR_REVEALPLUS:' seems suitable.


2. I'd like to be able to test my code directly in org (since I'm a lousy
coder and a clumsy typist). Can I tell org to load other files before
executing a src block?


Yes. Depending on what you want one of these:

* Add this to `org-export-before-parsing-hook', perhaps in setting up a
  derived exporter.

* Or perhaps by using a local variable `eval' see

: (info "(emacs) Specifying File Variables")

* Or by executing a src-block that loads those files.

HTH,

Chuck



Re: [O] org-depend: dependencies between TODO entries in different files

2016-12-12 Thread Karl Voit
* Carsten Dominik  wrote:
>
> Dear all,

Hi Carsten,

> Since ord-depend was only proof of concept, we could also think a bit more
> broadly about what it should be able to do.  Is there specific
> functionality it also should support, besides the TRIGGER/BLOCKER functions
> it has right now?

Oh my goodness - free wishes for org-depend? Christmas is rather
early this year! ;-)

OK, let's do some brain storming ...

For reference purposes: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-depend.html

> One issue to deal with is, that in different files, a different set of TODO
> keywords might be active, so if a TRIGGER entry changes a TODO state, and
> that entry lives in a different file, it falls onto the user to make sure
> that the required state is valid in both files.

>From my point of view: due to the fact that the user has to state
the TRIGGER keyword manually, it is up to the user that this makes
any sense. So far, nothing prevents me from typing:

:TRIGGER: foo-bar(INVALIDSTATUS)


> Any ides what is missing or might be useful?

Well, this comes a bit unprepared (I might be able to come up with
more feature possibilities to org-depend when thinking about it) but
I'd say that following workflows would be nice to discuss about:


Being able to specify SCHEDULED-dates *and* next status for
arbitrary IDs.

For example:

** NEXT Asking the client about XY
:PROPERTIES:
:TRIGGER: send-task(NEXT,2016-12-23)
:END:

** Send XY to client
:PROPERTIES:
:ID: send-task
:END:

Well the syntax might be chosen differently. What I want to achieve
is that when changing the "Asking" task to a finished state, the
"Send" task gets a fixed SCHEDULED value and the status NEXT. 

Additional: the two tasks are not necessarily in the same file or
within the same sub-hierarchy. So the «inherit scheduled date»
feature via chain-siblings-scheduled does not work in most cases to
me.


Another one:

** NEXT Asking the client about XY
SCHEDULED: <2016-12-12>
:PROPERTIES:
:TRIGGER: send-task(NEXT,.+3d)
:END:

** Send XY to client
:PROPERTIES:
:ID: send-task
:END:

When the "Asking" task is set to a finished state, the "Send" task
will be scheduled three days in the future and gets the status NEXT.

The usual date-syntax applies here as well: +3d (3 days from maybe
the SCHEDULED(?) date of the "Asking" task), .+3d (3 days from now),
and so forth.


Another one: having the possibility to define "Send" state changes
that rely on the "Asking" state. For example: If I cancel the
"Asking" task, the "Send" state should be cancelled as well because
it makes no sense without the first one.

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Re: [O] Multiple underscores crash org latex export; other exporters survive

2016-12-12 Thread Scott Otterson
Thanks to Nicolas and Scott for your painstaking efforts.  At least for me,
a fine stopgap measure is to simply avoid Latex crashes for orgmode
contents that are not explicitly Latex.  Sometime after that, it would be
ideal to produce similar output for all export types, insofar as that's
possible.

I thought I'd see what ox-pandoc does.  As I'm sure you know, pandoc
converts all input formats to a master markup language, and then converts
that to whatever output format is desired -- a design that makes output
uniformity easier to obtain.  Orgmode is already halfway there, since the
master markup language is orgmode itself.

Here's what pandoc does in the three cases I've recently posted about:

1.) *Multiple underscores* (the subject of this thread):  Pandoc doesn't
crash and it exports the same thing for either html or latex: everything
after the first underscore is subscripted and all underscores are deleted.
I don't love that behavior but it's consistent.

2.) *Plain lists with more than four sublevels*: For html export, pandoc
and orgmode do what you'd expect: produce a deeply nested html list.  For
(Windows) latex export, pandoc and orgmode also do the same thing: crash.
Ideally, pandoc would have generated valid Latex for deep list nesting, but
at least it's not completely ornery; it snips out the part of the original
Latex error message that points to the cause.

Perhaps pandoc latex export wouldn't crash in Linux, just as orgmode latex
export doesn't crash in Linux (from Nicolas).  This is still a mystery.
Nicolas's Linux-produced tex file is essentially the same as the one I got
in Windows, and it crashes Windows latexmk just like mine does.  *Nicolas*,
could it be that you're not running latexmk on your exports?

3.) *Web link with a '#' in the URL*: Pandoc never crashes and it exports
nearly the same thing for html or latex pdf:  In either case, clicking on
the link sends you to the right web page, and the only difference is that,
in the output pdf, the link text isn't highlighted; instead there's a
tooltip popup.

The reason pandoc latex export doesn't crash but orgmode does (in Windows)
is that pandoc escapes the '#'.  In the example I posted last week, orgmode
does this:

\section{Some section  \href{http://orgmode.org/manual/Column-groups.html#
Column-groups}{A random link}}


while pandoc does this:

\section{\texorpdfstring{Some section \href{http://orgmode.org/
manual/Column-groups.html\#Column-groups}{A random link}}{Some section A
random link}}


I don't understand why the escape prevents Windows crashes but doesn't
appear to be needed for Linux.  Nevertheless, it looks like pandoc does
something special to prevent this crash.

Scott

>
>


[O] including external file in src block execution; ATTR_HTML on src blocks

2016-12-12 Thread Matt Price
I use org to write my lecture notes, and have started using klipse in those
exported notes to execute code snippets in a browser environment (
http://matt.hackinghistory.ca/2016/12/11/org-mode-run-code-live-in-a-reveal-slideshow-with-klipse/
). Sometimes I would like to set up the javascript environment with some
additional libraries, either local or web-based. Klipse lets you do this
with a custom data- attribute.

My questions are:
1. can I pass this html attribute to the  block somehow?
ATTR_HTML doesn't seem to work.  Is this a bug? If so, should I try to fix
it? If not, is there a simple way to use header arguments to pass
information down? I am already rewriting the exporter's src-block export
function, so I can try to accomplish what I need to in that context.
2. I'd like to be able to test my code directly in org (since I'm a lousy
coder and a clumsy typist). Can I tell org to load other files before
executing a src block?

Thank you!
Mat


Re: [O] ox-icalendar's org-icalendar-include-todo and export for TODOs with custom DONE states

2016-12-12 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi.

Nicolas Goaziou  writes:

> Hello,
>
> Olivier Berger  writes:
>
>> I have a TODO file with additional TODO/DONE states.
>>
>> It seems that when org-icalendar-include-todo is set to 't', it should
>> "include tasks that are not in DONE state.".
>>
>> In my TODO file I have the following configuration of TODO states :
>> #+SEQ_TODO: TODO(t) DEMARRE(e) ATTENTE(a) RDV(v) | DONE(d) ANNULE(n) 
>> REPORTE(r)
>>
>> I would expect that exporting the TODOs would only export the ones in
>> TODO, DEMARRE, ATTENTE or RDV states.
>>
>> However, TODOs in ANNULE state are exported too, it seems.
>>
>> Any hints ?
>
> According to `org-icalendar-include-todo' docstring, it only controls
> creation of VTODO components.
>
> It think you need `org-export-with-tasks'.
>

Thanks Nicolas, actually adding #+OPTIONS: tasks:todo to the header
solved the issue (originally using org-caldav-sync [0], btw) :-)

Many thanks.

Best regards,

[0] https://github.com/dengste/org-caldav
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[O] user labels in beamer export

2016-12-12 Thread Eric S Fraga
I am having problems trying to use user defined labels in org export to
LaTeX (beamer specifically).

If I have the following org,

#+begin_src org
  ,#+TITLE: LaTeX export minimal test
  ,* Intro
  :PROPERTIES:
  :CUSTOM_ID: introduction
  :END:
  This is the first slide.
  ,* Summary
  As we saw on slide [[#introduction]], ...
#+end_src

I get the following LaTeX generated:

#+begin_src latex
  \begin{frame}[label=introduction]{Intro}
  This is the first slide.
  \end{frame}

  \begin{frame}[label={sec:orgdc0a2c3}]{Summary}
  As we saw on slide \ref{sec-1}, \ldots{}
  \end{frame}
#+end_src

(elided for size).  Note that internally generated labels of the form
orgXX are not generated but instead org generates "sec-1" instead of
using \ref{introduction}.

I have org-latex-prefer-user-labels set to t.

Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug in org?  I'm up to date with
git version as of a few minutes ago.

Thanks,
eric

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Re: [O] org-depend: dependencies between TODO entries in different files

2016-12-12 Thread Carsten Dominik
Dear all,

thanks for your feedback.

Since ord-depend was only proof of concept, we could also think a bit more
broadly about what it should be able to do.  Is there specific
functionality it also should support, besides the TRIGGER/BLOCKER functions
it has right now?

One issue to deal with is, that in different files, a different set of TODO
keywords might be active, so if a TRIGGER entry changes a TODO state, and
that entry lives in a different file, it falls onto the user to make sure
that the required state is valid in both files.

Any ides what is missing or might be useful?

Carsten

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Karl Voit  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> * Christophe Schockaert  wrote:
> >
> > Carsten Dominik writes:
> >
> >> I can take a look at that.  Unless Nicolas already is working on it, of
> >> course.
> >>
> >> [...]  Is anyone besides Karl using it regularly?  I don't want to
> >> break anything by changing it.
>
> Good point.
>
> However, I don't think that there is a situation where
> «ID-dependencies are found in all/agenda files» instead of
> «ID-dependencies are found only within the same file» does break a
> workflow. Using ID-dependencies from another file simply result in
> false behavior in the current situation and not in a different
> behavior.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> > I started to use it a few months ago, and I am using it more and more
> > when I have to gather a bunch of existing actions and give a follow-up
> > for such a subset. Or when I need to refer to a subaction not directly
> > related, before I can go further in a broader project.
>
> I am using it heavily to implement workflows I could not do
> otherwise: TRIGGER and BLOCKER.
>
> For me, org-depend functionality was the reason to begin with
> org-mode in the first place. And it is still one of my top three
> org-mode features. When I show org-depend in my org-mode workshops,
> I still get very positive feedback.
>
> > And thank you Karl for asking !
>
> You're welcome.
>
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> github
>
>
>


Re: [O] Using an org based init file slows down emacs startup by 50x..help needed :(

2016-12-12 Thread Julian M. Burgos
Hi Xebar,

An simple alternative is to do what I do: keep your init file in an org
mode file, and simple tangle it manually whenever you do changes.  In
this way you avoid the overload of the tangling process at startup.  My
emacs starts in about 10 seconds.

Julian

Thomas S. Dye writes:

> Aloha Xebar,
>
> Xebar Saram writes:
>
>> Ok so i think the reason really is that i have way to many lisp code blocks
>> as suggested. i found out a very interesting post that maybe of interest to
>> alot of org users
>>
>> http://www.holgerschurig.de/en/emacs-efficiently-untangling-elisp/
>>
>> this creates a new function that very efficiently tangles my org file and
>> the time goes from 6 minutes to 25 seconds!!
>>
>> this is a link to an example init file
>>
>> https://bitbucket.org/holgerschurig/emacsconf/src/416b2bba2d1d334b9c6ddbd56f8c7f8bd8bc4aab?at=master
>
> Have you seen Eric Schulte's starter-kit
> (http://eschulte.github.io/emacs24-starter-kit/)?  Using it, I keep my
> initialization functions in a few different Org mode files, which the
> starter-kit tangles to .el iff the Org mode file has been changed since
> it was last tangled.  I'm able to keep the initialization process
> reasonably organized (I'm the limiting factor), without the wait.
>
> hth,
> Tom


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Re: [O] org-depend: dependencies between TODO entries in different files

2016-12-12 Thread Karl Voit
Hi,

* Christophe Schockaert  wrote:
>
> Carsten Dominik writes:
>
>> I can take a look at that.  Unless Nicolas already is working on it, of
>> course.
>>
>> [...]  Is anyone besides Karl using it regularly?  I don't want to
>> break anything by changing it.

Good point.

However, I don't think that there is a situation where
«ID-dependencies are found in all/agenda files» instead of
«ID-dependencies are found only within the same file» does break a
workflow. Using ID-dependencies from another file simply result in
false behavior in the current situation and not in a different
behavior.

Just my 2 cents.

> I started to use it a few months ago, and I am using it more and more
> when I have to gather a bunch of existing actions and give a follow-up
> for such a subset. Or when I need to refer to a subaction not directly
> related, before I can go further in a broader project.

I am using it heavily to implement workflows I could not do
otherwise: TRIGGER and BLOCKER.

For me, org-depend functionality was the reason to begin with
org-mode in the first place. And it is still one of my top three
org-mode features. When I show org-depend in my org-mode workshops,
I still get very positive feedback.

> And thank you Karl for asking !

You're welcome.

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Re: [O] Disable consistency graphs for some habits

2016-12-12 Thread Jorge Morais Neto
On 9 December 2016 at 21:31, Nicolas Goaziou  wrote:
>> I set them up as org-habit habits for the following desirable features:
>> - Only show on the agenda for today, not for other days.
>> - Appear at the end of the agenda for today.
>> - Hide when I type K.
>
> What about using a regular repeater for that instead of an habit? For
> example, first point is solved using
> `org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all' (or
> `org-agenda-show-future-repeats' in master).

But org-agenda-show-future-repeats affects /all/ repeaters.  I want some
important repeaters (such as regular meetings) to appear on every matching date
as normal.

> You may simply use another agenda view to remove them (last point).
But toggling with K is more practical because it preserves current filters.

Regards

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Re: [O] org-depend: dependencies between TODO entries in different files

2016-12-12 Thread Jorge Morais Neto
On 8 December 2016 at 08:16, Jorge Morais Neto  wrote:
> On 8 December 2016 at 04:44, Carsten Dominik  wrote:
>> One additional point is, of course, that org-depend is not part of the core,
>> but was written as a proof of concept.  Is anyone besides Karl using it
>> regularly?  I don't want to break anything by changing it.
> I use it (in a very small number of entries).
I would like to add that, AFAIK, currently I only use org-depend to depend on
entries in the same Org document.  But someday I will probably want to depend
on entries in a different document.

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Re: [O] Using an org based init file slows down emacs startup by 50x..help needed :(

2016-12-12 Thread Rainer M Krug
Xebar Saram  writes:

> Ok so i think the reason really is that i have way to many lisp code blocks 
> as suggested. i found out a very interesting post that maybe of interest to 
> alot of
> org users

Well - it took on my MacBook Pro Retina about 30 seconds -

,
| Wrote /Users/rainerkrug/tmp/settings.el [745 times]
| Tangled 745 code blocks from settings.org
`

so I guess something else is fishy in your setup

Rainer


>
> http://www.holgerschurig.de/en/emacs-efficiently-untangling-elisp/
>
> this creates a new function that very efficiently tangles my org file and the 
> time goes from 6 minutes to 25 seconds!!
>
> this is a link to an example init file
>
> https://bitbucket.org/holgerschurig/emacsconf/src/416b2bba2d1d334b9c6ddbd56f8c7f8bd8bc4aab?at=master
>
> i really think this should go somewhere in the org documentation 
>
> best to all
>
> Z
>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Xebar Saram  wrote:
>
>  Ok some more exploring made me realize that also using `M-x 
> org-babel-load-file` on the setting.org file and tangling it takes a LONG 
> time (like 6-7
>  minutes) so its not a problem of the init its the actual tangling of the 
> file. 6-7 minutes cant be normal right? 
>
>  im attaching my settings.org file
>
>  would appreciate any help
>
>  Z
>
>

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[O] exporting # to latex?

2016-12-12 Thread Sharon Kimble

I'm trying to write an org-mode file that is being exported to latex,
and then built into a pdf file, of the MPD online manual.

I'm now trying to show the 'mpf.conf' file which is mostly with
commented out lines starting with a hash (#). But that breaks the
org-mode export, so how can I have it displayed and exported to latex
please?

I've tried putting a comma in front of each separate #, which does work,
but gives a very untidy export to latex. I've also tried putting
'#+begin_src org' before the block of text and #, and '#+end_src' after
it, but when I build the pdf after exporting it to latex I get this
error report -

--8<---cut here---start->8---
Chapter 9.
! Undefined control sequence.
 \lstset 

l.1749 \lstset
  {language=org,label= ,caption= ,captionpos=b,numbers=none}
? x
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

Where it just halts and is unable to proceed without correcting it,
which I can't do, so I have to say 'x' to break out of it.

So what I'm trying to get is a latex file which includes the .conf file
and all of its # in the right place and show as # on their own. But how
can I do it please?

Thanks
Sharon.
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