Re: org 9.2.6 and org 9.1.9

On Wednesday, 27 Nov 2019 at 17:00, Tim Cross wrote: > I would agree that org should be a package in elpa and not bundled into > emacs core. I would argue the opposite! I would like to see org tightly integrated into Emacs, in the same way that gnus now is. Development of org would be in step

Re: org 9.2.6 and org 9.1.9

Jean-Christophe Helary writes: > > Yes, it is a bit of dependency hell. > > I see 2 solutions here: > > 1) org is only provided as a built-in package and updated there when necessary Even if we removed it from GNU ELPA, nothing stops unofficial packages from cropping up when users want to run

Re: org 9.2.6 and org 9.1.9

Stefan Monnier writes: > > > What should happen is that > > 1) packages.el should see that I'm trying to install a package that requires > > 9.2.6 as a dependency and it should notify me that 9.1.9 is already > > installed and do I really want to do that, etc. > > > > 2) *or* just consider that

Re: org 9.2.6 and org 9.1.9

Tim Cross writes: > I would agree that org should be a package in elpa and not bundled into emacs > core. The user can then choose which version to install (ignoring the package > dependency problem). I disagree with removing Org-mode from Emacs core, as I've explained elsewhere. > This

Re: org 9.2.6 and org 9.1.9

But I don't think the issue is with package.el per se. You get the same problem if you try to install org-mode manually without package.el. What is really needed to fix this problem is some mechanism which will ensure all org related definitions are somehow purged from the running instance before

Re: org 9.2.6 and org 9.1.9

I would agree that org should be a package in elpa and not bundled into emacs core. The user can then choose which version to install (ignoring the package dependency problem). This won't fix all the issues as anyone installing a new major version when an existing version is already loaded will

Re: org 9.2.6 and org 9.1.9

Thank you Stefan. I'll try to reproduce the issue and then I'll report. Jean-Christophe > On Nov 27, 2019, at 12:24, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> What should happen is that >> 1) packages.el should see that I'm trying to install a package that requires >> 9.2.6 as a dependency and it should

Re: org 9.2.6 and org 9.1.9

> What should happen is that > 1) packages.el should see that I'm trying to install a package that requires > 9.2.6 as a dependency and it should notify me that 9.1.9 is already > installed and do I really want to do that, etc. > > 2) *or* just consider that it's better for me to use 9.2.6 instead

Re: org 9.2.6 and org 9.1.9

> On Nov 27, 2019, at 11:59, Cook, Malcolm wrote: > > Tim, > > Yes, it is a bit of dependency hell. I see 2 solutions here: 1) org is only provided as a built-in package and updated there when necessary 2) org is removed from the built in packages The current situation is really weird.

RE: org 9.2.6 and org 9.1.9

Tim, Yes, it is a bit of dependency hell. Quoting myself from Re: [O] How to safely update from ver. 8.2.10 to 8.3.x : Here's what I do, at the shell: emacs -Q -batch -eval "(progn

Re: Editting from the agenda view

Hi Shérab, Shérab writes: > Dear Victor, > > Many thanks for your response and sorry for the delay of mine! > > Victor A. Stoichita (2019/11/23 09:14 +0100): >> >> Le 22 Nov 2019, Shérab a écrit : >> > When I am in an agenda view, say the weekly view, how can I edit one of >> > the listed

Re: [PATCH] Add support for month trees

Hi Nicolas, I've addressed each of your points in my updated patch (attached). Thanks, Jason On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:22 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Hello, > > Jason writes: > > > Please find my attached patch which implements a way to capture entries > > grouped by month. > > Thank you. >

Re: Bug: ol-notmuch.el: calls `notmuch-show' with arbitrary search query

Hello David, Thank you for the investigation. On Tue 26 Nov 2019 at 10:52PM +00, David Edmondson wrote: > The poor behaviour is just a side effect of the way that queries are > composed to implement the filter functionality. Does the attached patch > help? Unfortunately, it is still broken in

Re: org 9.2.6 and org 9.1.9

Nick, thank you for your reply. > On Nov 27, 2019, at 4:15, Nick Dokos wrote: > > Jean-Christophe Helary writes: > >> org 9.1.9 is a built-in >> >> but org 9.2.6 comes as a dependency to some packages and having both >> installed creates conflicts. >> > > What conflicts are you seeing?

Re: Bug: ol-notmuch.el: calls `notmuch-show' with arbitrary search query

On Tuesday, 2019-11-26 at 14:57:28 -07, Sean Whitton wrote: > On Tue 26 Nov 2019 at 08:05PM +00, David Edmondson wrote: > >> Could you explain how you were using `notmuch-show-thread-id' in a way >> that was broken by the presence of an arbitrary query? > > I've observed that the standard notmuch

Re: Bug: ol-notmuch.el: calls `notmuch-show' with arbitrary search query

Hello David, On Tue 26 Nov 2019 at 08:05PM +00, David Edmondson wrote: > Could you explain how you were using `notmuch-show-thread-id' in a way > that was broken by the presence of an arbitrary query? I've observed that the standard notmuch command `notmuch-show-filter-thread' doesn't work in a

Re: Bug: ol-notmuch.el: calls `notmuch-show' with arbitrary search query

Hello, On Tue 26 Nov 2019 at 08:17PM +01, ra...@free.fr wrote: > Your approach probably works most of the time, but I don't like the idea > of having to perform 2 queries when one should be enough. > > I think a better approach would be to change notmuch-show (or add a > new version) that would

Re: org 9.2.6 and org 9.1.9

There is a very important rule which must be followed wrt org-mode installation. It is critical that no version of org is already loaded before installing a new version. This can be quite tricky as many of us have org setups which automatically load some org functionality without explicitly

Re: Bug: ol-notmuch.el: calls `notmuch-show' with arbitrary search query

On Thursday, 2019-11-21 at 14:37:44 -07, Sean Whitton wrote: > The function `org-notmuch-follow-link' in {org,ol}-notmuch.el calls > `notmuch-show' with an arbitrary notmuch search query. However, the > docstring for `notmuch-show' specifies that a notmuch thread ID, rather > than an arbitrary

Re: Bug: ol-notmuch.el: calls `notmuch-show' with arbitrary search query

Hi, > > Here is my workaround. If this approach seems sensible I can prepare a > patch to `org-notmuch-follow-link` in ol-notmuch.el. Your approach probably works most of the time, but I don't like the idea of having to perform 2 queries when one should be enough. I think a better approach

Re: Editting from the agenda view

Le 26 Nov 2019, Shérab a écrit : To reschedule an entry remotely from the agenda view, you can press S-right (org-agenda-do-date-later) or S-left (org-agenda-do-date-earlier). I indeed remember having seen these commands! The thing is that I am using emacs in the Linux console where

Re: org 9.2.6 and org 9.1.9

Jean-Christophe Helary writes: > org 9.1.9 is a built-in > > but org 9.2.6 comes as a dependency to some packages and having both > installed creates conflicts. > What conflicts are you seeing? I have the built-in 9.1.9 org that comes with emacs but I run (close to) latest master and I see no

Re: org-enable-table-editor is removed since 9.1

Tomasz Piotrowski writes: > If I try to edit a table in org-mode, e.g., add a row to it, I get a > message > > "eval: Symbol’s value as variable is void: org-enable-table-editor". > > This is in line with changes made in version 9.1: > https://orgmode.org/Changes_old.html#org8981857 > > This

Re: Bug: ol-notmuch.el: calls `notmuch-show' with arbitrary search query

Dear maintainers, On Thu 21 Nov 2019 at 02:37PM -07, Sean Whitton wrote: > The function `org-notmuch-follow-link' in {org,ol}-notmuch.el calls > `notmuch-show' with an arbitrary notmuch search query. However, the > docstring for `notmuch-show' specifies that a notmuch thread ID, rather > than

Re: Editting from the agenda view

Dear Victor, Many thanks for your response and sorry for the delay of mine! Victor A. Stoichita (2019/11/23 09:14 +0100): > > Le 22 Nov 2019, Shérab a écrit : > > When I am in an agenda view, say the weekly view, how can I edit one of > > the listed entries? I may want to do that either

Re: org-enable-table-editor is removed since 9.1

Nicolas, I will check the libraries, thank you. Tomasz Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Tomasz Piotrowski writes: > >> Many thanks for the reply. Please find the backtrace attached. This >> variable org-enable-table-editor has been removed in org v.9.1., which >> is stated explicitly in the release

Re: org-enable-table-editor is removed since 9.1

Tomasz Piotrowski writes: > Many thanks for the reply. Please find the backtrace attached. This > variable org-enable-table-editor has been removed in org v.9.1., which > is stated explicitly in the release notes for v.9.1: > https://orgmode.org/Changes_old.html > > I use v.9.2.6. The error

Re: org-enable-table-editor is removed since 9.1

Hello, Many thanks for the reply. Please find the backtrace attached. This variable org-enable-table-editor has been removed in org v.9.1., which is stated explicitly in the release notes for v.9.1: https://orgmode.org/Changes_old.html I use v.9.2.6. The error appears each time I try to edit an

Re: [PATCH] Add support for month trees

Hello, Jason writes: > Please find my attached patch which implements a way to capture entries > grouped by month. Thank you. > I was searching for this option, but only found a way to group entries by > week or day. > > I found the following posts where other people also need this feature: >

Re: org-enable-table-editor is removed since 9.1

Hello, Tomasz Piotrowski writes: > If I try to edit a table in org-mode, e.g., add a row to it, I get a > message > > "eval: Symbol’s value as variable is void: org-enable-table-editor". You should check, and possibly send, the full backtrace. Org code base does not contain any reference to