Re: [O] Re: zotero (or mendeley) integration with org

2011-03-30 Thread Cian
I just use refmode to insert bib citations into my org-files. Both
Zotero and Mendeley can export bibtex files, so that's one method of
semi-automating the process (Mendeley will automatically update the
file for you - not sure about Zotero).

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:54 AM, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's in my mind to find a way to use orgmode for organizing pdfs and BibTex
 data.  I haven't untangled storage of PDFs and linking to BibTeX, and I
 haven't found a solution to organizing it all through orgmode.

 An important piece of the puzzle, though, needs mention: cb2bib helps
 semi-automate making a BibTeX entry from a citation, or Google Scholar
 BibTeX output.

 I wonder if it would help to use orgmode for bibtex *.bib files.  I think
 comments can be included in those files.  Or does it also work the other way
 around, that any file can be used as a bibtex source database?

 Matt's workflow makes sense.

 Alan Davis






Re: [O] Re: Continuation of main section text after subsections ?

2011-03-27 Thread Cian
You can't do that, as it would be akin to trying to have in a book

Section 1
Stuff
Section 1.1.1
More stuff

Now this goes under Section 1

Not really an idiom that makes sense (I find its best to think of
org-mode's headings as chapter headers

What you can do is something like the following:

* Main headline
Something goes here

#+BEGIN_NOTE
sub thoughts
#+END_NOTE

Some more stuff under main headline

The #stuff can be closed when you want it to get it out of the way, so
I sometimes use this a means of attaching notes to a document. It
works, but I'm sure it could be improved. That way you can also have
different exporting options for the note if you really want them.

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com wrote:

 ---
 * Main headline
   Some thoughts expressed here

 ** Subheading 1
    More thoughts expressed here
 ** Subheading 2
    More thoughts expressed here

  I would like to have this text part of 'Main headline', not of
  'Subheading 2'
 

 Why is copy pasting not an option ...

 My intention is not to tick you off but I am confused about what you are
 trying to say here.

 Jambunathan K.





Re: [O] Re: Continuation of main section text after subsections ?

2011-03-27 Thread Cian
Wouldn't blocks that allowed org headings offer this. If I understand
this correctly, what you're really looking for is the ability to mark
certain bits of text as one blob, so that you can move them around
easily as you draft a paper, without worrying about pulling other bits
of the paper. So this would work:

* First level
blah blah

** Second level

#+BEGIN_block
some text

* Third level
because all headings within the block are treated as subheadings of
the containing level

** Fourth level
This is some rubbish that I'm not sure about

#+END_BLOCK

This is different rubbish that will stay here if I cut the block above me


Would something along those lines serve?

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Marcel van der Boom mar...@hsdev.com wrote:

 On zo 27-mrt-2011 16:52
 Cian cian.ocon...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can't do that, as it would be akin to trying to have in a book

 Section 1
 Stuff
 Section 1.1.1
 More stuff

 Now this goes under Section 1

 Not really an idiom that makes sense (I find its best to think of
 org-mode's headings as chapter headers

 Agreed, for paper books that would not make much sense (depending on
 how you do it) and that fact kept me from asking the question for a
 while.
 For electronic texts however, especially in the drafting stage where
 (sub-)sections get shuffled around, promoted, demoted, split etc. it
 does make sense, to me at least.

 When writing I tend to think about org headings as 'handles' to a
 logical block of information, including its child blocks. Apparently my
 analogy clashes with what org-mode wants. I had my hopes on a
 customization option.

 Is there a strong reason this could not work as an option in org-mode?

 marcel

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Re: [O] zotero (or mendeley) integration with org

2011-03-26 Thread Cian
I use Mendeley and just set it up to export bibtex files. Then you can
just reference those in org-mode using reftex. I think you can do
something similar using zotero.

It works okay. I don't annotate PDFs using Mendeley (I just write my
notes in org-mode), so I'm not sure if you can access those somehow?
But as a system for managing PDFs it's adequate.

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Stephen Eglen
s.j.eg...@damtp.cam.ac.uk wrote:
 There was a mail-thread lastyear about zotero and integration with org.
 Now that there is an alpha release of 'org-standalone'
  http://www.zotero.org/blog/2011/02/

 has anyone looked at whether this helps integrate org and zotero?

 I've not yet switched to a pdf manager (they're all stuffed into a
 folder, with a few subfolders, and the only meta-data is in the
 filename!), so I'd appreciate hearing what others to do to look after
 their pdfs.  Mendeley is a possibility too (although syncing between
 machines is a must, and Mendeley doesn't offer that yet.)

 Stephen





Re: [O] Re: Completing with anything

2011-03-24 Thread Cian
Can you separate out the gnus specific code at some point. If I ever
get any time (two small children and a day job, so big if) I'd like to
integrate it into Wanderlust. But currently the code assumes that
you're using gnus.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 23 2011, Eric S Fraga wrote:

 Will you provide a means to capturing email addresses from emails
 directly into an org-contacts db, as bbdb does with : and ; (the
 latter for annotation of the entry)?  That would be necessary for any
 move away from bbdb, IMO.

 This is already provided.

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Re: [Orgmode] Narrow tSparse Trees layout

2009-08-04 Thread Cian OConnor
Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:

 Hi Cian,
 Its just that when drafting papers I tend to have lots and lots of
 indentation in early drafts, and while narrowing trees is a godsend, the
 unnecessary (for my purposes) indentation is slightly annoying.

 If the purpose of such a temporary display is to make the export render
 the structure of the narrowed buffer as if it was a top-level subtree,
 then I agree this is useful.  You can already achieve this by selecting
 the whole narrowed subtree (with transient-mark-mode on) and exporting
 the region.

Not really. Its simply a convenience method that I can probably hack for 
myself, but didn't want to if it already existed. Its simply when I'm 
drafting I tend to work in subtrees, and it becomes (for my purposes)
quite unwieldy when working with large trees (as I tend to). The indent
when I'm working with the narrowed buffer is a waste of space, and it
also makes it difficult for me to work out what level I'm working at
with a simple eyeball at the structure.

However I can quite cheerfully see that this is not something most
people would want/need.

 But maybe a narrowed tree should be considered as a selected region by
 default...  

Yes it probably should.


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Re: [Orgmode] Narrow tSparse Trees layout

2009-07-31 Thread Cian OConnor

Oh sorry, I was using the wrong terminology. I don't mean sparse trees
at all, I meant narrow trees.

It would be nice if there was an option so that narrowed trees are
displayed without their normal indentation. So for example if narrow a
subtree at level 4, then it is displayed as a normal tree at level 1
rather than as a tree starting at level 4 as currently happens. 
Its just that when drafting papers I tend to have lots and lots of
indentation in early drafts, and while narrowing trees is a godsend, the
unnecessary (for my purposes) indentation is slightly annoying.

Cian

Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:

 Cian OConnor cian.ocon...@gmail.com writes:

 Now if I go to level 3 and create a sparse tree I get this:
 * level 3
   * level 4

 Which is fine and usable, but it would be nice to have the option to
 have the following instead:

 * level 3
   * level 4

 Why would you want to have this?  

 I find this a bit confusing...


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[Orgmode] Refiling within a document

2009-07-30 Thread Cian OConnor
I really like refiling functionality in org-mode and use it quite a
bit. However one thing that annoys me is that quite often I simply want
to refile in the same buffer. Is there a way to do this that I've
missed? Or do I simply have to select the name of the current buffer as
I currently do.

Cian


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[Orgmode] Sparse Trees layout

2009-07-30 Thread Cian OConnor
What I'd like to be able to do is the following. Say I have the
following tree:
* level 1
  * level 2
* level 3
  * level 4

Now if I go to level 3 and create a sparse tree I get this:
* level 3
  * level 4

Which is fine and usable, but it would be nice to have the option to
have the following instead:

* level 3
  * level 4

Is this possible? I looked in the manual, but couldn't see anything.

Thanks,
Cian


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Results of the SourceForge Community Award

2009-07-24 Thread Cian OConnor
Gabi Danon gabida...@gmail.com writes:

Org-mode is the killer app for emacs, surely? It is the reason I'm using
Emacs again after a five year gap - and not just org-mode, but BBDB and
GNUS as well.

One of the things that I find astonishing is that it does so many
disparate things so well. For planning and organising there is nothing
to match its flexibility AND its power; yet it doesn't force any
particular method of organising on you. They all work, and you can be as
sloppy as you like.

As an outliner...well it is THE outliner as far as I'm concerned. For
years I've been searching for the perfect writing tool. I found it.

Cian

 Until about a month ago, I was a non-emacs user; and indeed, I thought
 it's bad looking and, in some respects, primitive. The reason I started
 using it anyway is org-mode: I wanted a decent outliner, and none of
 the others I tried fit my way of working. So I gave it a try despite
 the way it looks.

 Now I use emacs+org-mode for outlining, planning, taking notes,
 drafting papers, and almost anything else that has to do with text. As
 far as I'm concerned, org-mode is no longer just 'likely to change' the
 way I do everything.

 Gabi

 User spamfilteracco...@gmail.com wrote:

 No wonder it didn't win. Non-emacs users have few incentive to
 try it, since they think emacs is bad looking and primitve in
 general, so they are looking for something more flashy instead
 and do not even try it.


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Vertical split in Emacs 23

2009-07-16 Thread Cian OConnor

Add the following to your .emacs file:
(setq split-width-threshold 999)

I actually like the change, but then I'm using a widescreen monitor 
where it makes more sense.


Paul Mead wrote:

Benjamin Andresen be...@in-ulm.de writes:

  

Hey Paul,

I don't know if this will exactly revert it back to the previous
behavior, but if you change `split-width-threshold' to a bigger number
(e.g. 999) than the default it should be more sensible looking.

br,
benny



Thanks Benny, that'll get me going for now.

Having thought about this a bit more, I can see where the new behaviour
might be useful, but it just looks a bit ugly in org-mode because (I
guess) it's not been written to deal with narrower buffers.

Would this be a minor fix or a major change do you think? My elisp is
about as competent as my sanskrit I'm afraid...

Paul



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[Orgmode] Bug Report for emacs 23 and follow-mode

2009-07-14 Thread Cian OConnor

Hi,

I'm using a fairly recent build of Emacs 23 on windows (23.0.94.1), and 
while follow-mode seems to work fine for ordinary files, it does not 
work in .org files. Instead I get a blank screen for the second buffer. 
I'm using the latest version of org-mode (from the website, not CVS).


Interestingly it seems to be working fine for the Agenda mode.

I cleared out my .emacs file and this didn't make any difference, so I 
don't think its anything weird in my config, though I can try again if 
this is not replicable for anyone.


Feel a bit bad posting a bug report as my first message on this list, so 
I'll try and leave on a high note. Fantastic program! Totally in love.


Cian O'Connor


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[Orgmode] Re: Bug Report for emacs 23 and follow-mode

2009-07-14 Thread Cian OConnor
How embarrassing. I was getting mixed up with indirect buffers. So while 
the bug report is technically valid, it seems fairly unimportant...


Did I mention what a great product this is..?

Cian OConnor wrote:

Hi,

I'm using a fairly recent build of Emacs 23 on windows (23.0.94.1), 
and while follow-mode seems to work fine for ordinary files, it does 
not work in .org files. Instead I get a blank screen for the second 
buffer. I'm using the latest version of org-mode (from the website, 
not CVS).


Interestingly it seems to be working fine for the Agenda mode.

I cleared out my .emacs file and this didn't make any difference, so I 
don't think its anything weird in my config, though I can try again if 
this is not replicable for anyone.


Feel a bit bad posting a bug report as my first message on this list, 
so I'll try and leave on a high note. Fantastic program! Totally in love.


Cian O'Connor



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