Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

Ihor Radchenko writes: > Robert Horn writes: > >>> Not really. Countries may change DST at any moment in future. Or decide >>> to switch calendars (consider countries near the day transition line). >>> >>> And "past local time, according to t

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

nomical or other relationships would usually specify UTC or TAI. They might use a fixed offset for UTC. People who are into the demands of TAI (e.g., orbital mechanics) generally don't want to deal with the offsets or other issues that come up with UTC, so they wanted TAI. -- Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

Ihor Radchenko writes: > Robert Horn writes: > >>> 1. Time (-MM-DD HH:MM) not continuous and may change arbitrarily at >>>certain times a year or in future or in the past: >>>- DST transitions are not stable and change from year to year >>>

Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timezone support in org-mode datestamps and org-agenda

is is particularly tricky for repeating times for regularly scheduled events. > 5. Leap seconds! 23:59:59 -> 23:59:60 -> 00:00:00, according to >astronomical Earth observations > Fortunately, the most recent vote reached majority for eliminating leap seconds, hopefully within 8 years. -- Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu

Re: Help requested: Support for basic Org mode support in tools outside of Emacs

both have org-mode integrations. E.g., create an org-mode task from within the email reader, with link back to the email. -- Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu

Re: Bug: Org mode fails to compile using Emacs 24.5-r10 [9.4.5 (9.4.5-g3ea248 @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]

Colin Baxter writes: >>>>>> Robert Horn writes: > > > Timothy writes: > > >> Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> > >> Maybe this is a good time to start a discussion about moving > >> Org's minimum supported

Re: Bug: Org mode fails to compile using Emacs 24.5-r10 [9.4.5 (9.4.5-g3ea248 @ /home/yantar92/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]

ly not cause too much breakage. -- Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu

Re: Headline generation as in diary?

use modifications of diary to insert sunrise and sunset. But I think that these %% functiotns only show up as part of agenda processing. -- Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu

Re: A small idea to simplify (further) time input in the date/time prompt

8. It was changed to use colons in 1995 to match ISO 8601. There are still many traditionalists and old documents. Look for phrases like "6.30 Uhr" in old documents. You will find a lot like that. I didn't like the dot notation and agreed with the 1995 change, but it's still a r

Re: A small idea to simplify (further) time input in the date/time prompt

mostly because convenience typing military time isn't worth figuring out all the changes that would be needed. It's worth looking at all the issues discussed in ISO 8601 and understanding them before you leap into time formatting changes. ISO 8601 is a compromise solution with lots of warts, but it is widely supported and understood. -- Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu

Re: [O] converting many ics files to a single org file

The golang ical2org (https://github.com/rjhorniii/ical2org) definitely does this. -- Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu

Re: [O] please read: bug when marking tasks done

but I can easily write an elisp hook to capture the rules. -- Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu

[O] bug#32722: bug#32722: bug#32722: 26.1; Org-publish depend on non-free platform ?

tary platform. Git was created due to problems with a dependency on a proprietary platform, although in that case it was more related to a divergence in business strategic directions than ethical issues. -- Robert Horn rjhorn...@gmail.com

[O] ical2org release

that I've revceived. It does not alway work right in applying the right time to an event. An example of my mu4e integration and systemd integration for google synchronization is also documented. -- Robert Horn rjhorn...@gmail.com

Re: [O] Agenda bug

on my end. There is no error with org 9.1. Somehow that machine was never upgraded or got restored to an old version. It was still on 8.2. -- Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu

[O] ical2org ready

is awkward. There is a lot of typing. Creating a little lisp command for mu4e is likely the right solution. -- Robert Horn rjhorn...@gmail.com

Re: [O] Agenda bug

Eric S Fraga writes: > On Tuesday, 6 Mar 2018 at 11:23, Robert Horn wrote: >> I discovered that the lines ( the body of a headline): >> *** real headline >>* example >>:SCHEDULED: >> >> cause agenda processing to fail. It tries to par

[O] Agenda bug

margin. Removing either the leading colon or the asterisk on example fixes the problem. Regular display parsing does not get confused. The highlighting and font changes do not consider the " * example" to be a headline. -- Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu

Re: [O] Ical to org, in Go lang.

Eric S Fraga writes: > If you use gnus, it comes with a gnus-icalendar package which will > convert calendar attachments to org entries. You can export to org & > accept/decline events. I use this all the time. I use mu4e, but I may steal from gnus-icalendar. Thanks -- Rober

[O] Ical to org, in Go lang.

properties drawer. This allows a human to know what was sent. I then assume that between the description, the zones, and the times, a person can decide whether and how to adjust the active timestamps in the org file. -- Robert Horn rjhorn...@gmail.com

Re: [O] New feature? Remove duplicate subheadings, preserving order

Allen Li writes: > On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 8:07 PM, Adam Porter wrote: > > I don’t see a use case for checking all heading data. > I can see such cases arising from templates and time tracking. I can have a template that captures telephone calls. The call comes in and I

Re: [O] How to include diary anniversary entries into default org-agenda?

stardiviner writes: > I have an org-mode file: > > #+begin_src org > ,* Anniversary > > ,** my first child anniversary > > %%(diary-anniversary 10 26 2017) > > ,** Funeral Arrangement > > ,*** kk > > %%(diary-anniversary 12 8 2007) > #+end_src > > How to include and show them in default

Re: [O] Trying to get chart from table working

Peter Davis writes: > Basically, I want to plot a time series graph showing my PSA (prostate > specific antigen) over time. The PSA is measured at irregular intervals, > and has been for over 4 years (and hopefully will continue for many more > years.) That should be a simple enough graph. I've

Re: [O] Confused about the explanation for 'org-cycle'

Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Completeness is not possible. For example, we do not document every > variable in the manual. Besides, when reading a pile of special rules > for special cases, the reader may lose focus and miss the whole concept. > > BTW, a "docstring" is the documentation you get

Re: [O] [ANN] Agenda speed up

I'll note that I use %%( entries for sunset/sunrise, e.g., %%(diary-sunrise), and for some schedules that need logic that does "shift one day if Monday is a holiday". That means I will need the %%( functionality to keep working. I suspect I'm not alone. These are some fairly old and stable

[O] Issue with org-super-agenda and %%diary

I want to have sunrise and sunset in my time grid. I do this with two lines with "%%(diary-sunrise)" and "%%(diary-sunset)" in them. With the regular org-agenda this works, e.g., 18:00.. weather:19:42.. Sunset (EDT)

Re: [O] org mode moves to GNU emacs core

Bastien Guerry writes: > Hi Philip, > > phillip.l...@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > >> I presume you do see this as an advantage? The issue is, surely, >> that it's too much of a PITA for the advantage that you gain? > > Well, it's not really about PITA-or-not-PITA, it's just that I want

Re: [O] [RFC] The "c" Org macro

Eric S Fraga writes: > On Monday, 8 May 2017 at 11:26, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I would like to scratch a long-standing itch and introduce the "c" >> macro, which is basically a way to handle multiple counters in an Org >> document. So, the following document > > This sounds like

Re: [O] How do you store web pages for reference?

There is also a Firefox plugin "ScrapBook X", which is a successor to Scrapbook. It can capture the web page alone (with links to outside world) and allows you to select by depth or link additional pages that are also to be captured. (If you have infinite time and storage with the right links

[O] ELPA vs 9.0.1 release (still issues)

I'm not enough of an ELPA guru to figure this out. I tried org-mode 9.0.1 using ELPA, found some issues I'll describe, and find that using the direct git version does not have those issues. All of this is with Emacs 24.5.2, GTK+ version 2.24.31. This is a fresh setup, no other packages

Re: [O] Why no secure code retrieval

Konstantin Kliakhandler writes: > > Sufficient for what? I believe we were discussing security (that was my > intention at least, and so did your previous email seem to indicate). And > if this is the case, you have just contradicted yourself. I apologize for > pointing it out so directly, and

Re: [O] Why no secure code retrieval

Konstantin Kliakhandler writes: > Hello Robert, > > I am the OP. > > For what it is worth, the current discussion is actually precisely what I > was aiming at. I agree with your analysis of my Intended goals but > completely disagree that SHA1 alone is any sort of guarantee.. To be > precise, I

Re: [O] Why no secure code retrieval

I think that the original question was looking at a different problem, and discussion of hosted tooling may be a distraction. The issues that normally come up for cyber-security discussions of distribution need to be looked at. The following is a start at organizing those for org-mode. I think

Re: [O] A proposed enhancement in entering timestamps

>>> On 2016-03-18, at 17:51, Marcin Borkowski wrote: >>> I'm now reading org-read-date-analyze to be able to enable US military format for hours (e.g., 2100 instead of 21:00). This is potentially very useful (at least for me), since I'll be able to enter the hour

Re: [O] font bug in 0.9.16

Robert Horn writes: Apologies, sent to the wrong list R Horn -- Sent with my mu4e

[O] font bug in 0.9.16

Lisp error: (void-function add-face-text-property) add-face-text-property(0 63 mu4e-header-face t #("08:31:05 PM S Robert Horn+ testing" 0 11 (help-echo "Mon 25 Jan 2016 08:31:05 PM EST") 13 14 (help-echo "(seen)"))) mu4e~headers-line

Re: [O] [DEV] Bump Emacs requirement to 24.4?

Bastien Guerry writes: My simple point is: let's get more information and let's take a proper decision. Let's not force the change. I took a look at what is presently supported by Red Hat, Ubuntu, and OpenSuSE in their long term support releases. The results: emacs 23.1 (RHEL 6.0, Ubuntu

Re: [O] How to extract TODOs from date-tree

Jay Iyer writes: If there are use cases out there, it might be worth collecting them and then thinking about how to support them better. If there aren't, maybe it should be thrown out. It's most definitely useful. I'm not sure what you think would be better. I make extensive use of date

Re: [O] org-cook

I also use tables, and have one big recipe.org file. I considered ingredient properties, etc., but ended up just text and find recipes by using simple searches. They look like this: * Texas Skillet Corn Bread | Ingredient | Quantity | Instructions|

Re: [O] link interfering with brackets when abbreviated

I'm a user who doesn't much care about link following command behavior, but Bastien's point about context is important. The behavior of a command needs to depend upon much more than just syntax. Two really dramatic examples are region narrowing and outline folding. When operating on a narrowed

Re: [O] [SYNC] How do you sync your org-mode files between n devices (n 2)

Alan Schmitt writes: I can't promise anything, but I can try to write something. What external merging tool should I use? There was some work done in a Summer of Code last year or the year before. I don't know how much more work remains. It was an effort for a delta operator for git. I

Re: [O] Extending org-contacts with properties: naming properties

Karl Voit writes: * David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that this kind of simple thing looks like a better idea. However, it would also be nice to be able to call it some name where a person who encounters the software capability but doesn't yet know what it's for will

Re: [O] possible org-insert-heading bug?

I've noticed a probably related bug. In a file like * before break between If I put the cursor between break and between, M-ret causes the result * before * break between rather than what I expected: * before break * between With the holiday coming I might look at it also and figure out

Re: [O] possible org-insert-heading bug?

Erik Iverson writes: Robert, I noticed that behavior, too. But that does seem documented under M-RET: When this command is used in the middle of a line, the line is split and the rest of the line becomes the new item or headline. Footnote 10 is referenced, which says: If you do not

[O] org-checklist warning/elpa related?

I'm getting warnings about org-checklist that don't seem to be related to any real problem. I've noticed no functional problems with org-checklist. This is with org elpa 20130522. I get the following warnings in *Messages* when I change emacs color themes. Auto-saving...done --- harmless

Re: [O] posting guide?

Bastien writes: No objection of course, but it feels both formal and empty to me. I share Bastien's opinion. My experience with community building is that describing and rewarding exemplary behavior is much more useful than attempting to set strict rules of behavior. You need some basic

Re: [O] Always use utf-8 for HTML export (No support for other coding systems)

Achim Gratz writes: Jambunathan K writes: Always use utf-8 for HTML export (No support for other coding systems). For or against. Please register your views. It is becoming more rare these days, but still possible that the document encoding cannot be UTF-8 for whatever reason. So if

Re: [O] Prefix arguments, checklists, and lists

Nicolas Goaziou writes: Hello, Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu writes: As a rule of thumb, C-c C-c on a list will operate on every top level items and C-c C-c on a item will operate on the item. You are considered to be on a list when calling C-c C-c from affiliated keywords or from

Re: [O] Prefix arguments, checklists, and lists

Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes: I plan to rewrite C-c C-c using Elements, so the behaviour will slightly change. It will be better to discuss about checkboxes when this change is done. I've got no problem waiting, but it would be a good idea to figure out a consistent

[O] Prefix arguments, checklists, and lists

The keystroke bindings for lists need some examination and repair. In 7.9.3 the situation is: | Keystrokes | First Item| Any other item | |-+---+---| | C-c C-c |

[O] Checklist bug in version 7.9.3a

There is a bug in checklist handling. The following list will show the problem. 1. [ ] Use Cases 2. [ ] Threat Model 3. [ ] ITI Wiki 4. [ ] Maynard stuff 5. [ ] Annual Transition - wiki changes - ftp changes Context: Org-mode version 7.9.3a (release_7.9.3a @

Re: [O] Checklist bug in version 7.9.3a

Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes: Calling C-c C-c with an argument on the first item of a list or sub-list will apply the change on every item in the list. It looks consistent with what you get. What did you expect instead ? I was expecting the single checklist item to go to

Re: [O] Babel related bug in elpa version 20121231

Bastien b...@altern.org writes: I also wish Emacs can read an ~/.emacs.org init file. That is what the starterkit for emacs 24 is attempting to do. It's got a ~/init.el that is just #+begin_src emacs-lisp (setq starter-kit-dir (file-name-directory (or load-file-name

Re: [O] Babel related bug in elpa version 20121231

Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: That sounds like it should work, although I would go with the more complete but possibly overkill ;; emacs-lisp (package-initialize) (require 'org) (org-reload) Let me know if either of the above is sufficient to solve your

Re: [O] Babel related bug in elpa version 20121231

Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Robert Horn writes: I'm experimenting with starterkit on a new machine and have run into a bug in org-mode elpa version 20121231. Using two systems that hook into Emacs' startup sequence simultaneously is asking for trouble. It may be solveable

Re: [O] Babel related bug in elpa version 20121231

Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu writes: I'm experimenting with starterkit on a new machine and have run into a bug in org-mode elpa version 20121231. With the stock distribution org-mode (7.8.11) in emacs 24.2 there is no problem. With the elpa version 20121231 I get an error, see

[O] Babel related bug in elpa version 20121231

I'm experimenting with starterkit on a new machine and have run into a bug in org-mode elpa version 20121231. With the stock distribution org-mode (7.8.11) in emacs 24.2 there is no problem. With the elpa version 20121231 I get an error, see the attached output from emacs --debug-init. It's

[O] Agenda priority setting bad feature

I think that the key mapping for , and C-c, in agenda is a mistake and should be swapped. In the normal org-mode, C-c , is mapped to org-priority. In agenda mode this gets changed to org-agenda-show-priority. In agenda mode , is mapped to org-agenda-priority, which behaves like org-priority.

[O] Patch to change agenda key-mapping

I forgot to attach a proposed patch. This changes the keymapping for C-c , to use org-agenda-priority. It doesn't include a new keymapping to org-agenda-show-priority. I'm not sure what key mapping makes the most sense. It leaves the agenda menu and mouse functions for org-agenda-show-priority

Re: [O] Agenda priority setting bad feature

FBastien b...@altern.org writes: Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu writes: I think that the key mapping for , and C-c, in agenda is a mistake and should be swapped. The agenda is read-only, so short keystrokes are often preferred over long one. , being short for C-c , looks natural

Re: [O] orgmode + evernote, anyone using it? Use cases?

Alan Schmitt alan.schm...@polytechnique.org writes: Eden Cardim e...@insoli.de writes: Alan == Alan Schmitt alan.schm...@polytechnique.org writes: Alan Do you have a reliable system to link to emails? I've been Alan working on this and I'm not too satisfied yet. Not sure what you

Re: [O] Habit setup help needed

Memnon Anon gegendosenflei...@googlemail.com writes: I think the consistency bar is only fully functional with timestamps of the format 2012-09-13 Do .+7d/10d : You need a minimum/maximum range. Thank you. That was the clue I needed. I hadn't made the connection between schedule repeat

Re: [O] Habit setup help needed

Bastien b...@altern.org writes: Habit: HABIT [#A] Weekly GTD revi * ! :home: attachment: habit-example.png Is what it looks like (a day later). R Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu

Re: [O] org-habit config tinypatch

I found the issue, and it's a more subtle one. I've set a bug to emacs list in case they think it's a documentation or fixable bug. What happens is this: - The custom value setting for org options do not take effect until *after* the relevant lisp code has been executed once. This means:

[O] Habit setup help needed

I'm trying to get some habits set up that have a regular time window during which I should do them. The habits are being created and somewhat maintained, but the habit bars are not acting the way that I expected. In the org file I have: *** HABIT [#A] Weekly GTD review [0/9]

[O] org-habit config tinypatch

This patch fixes my problem, but indicates that there is a startup sequencing issue that may also affect other parts of org. First the patch --- org-agenda.el~ 2012-09-12 21:24:27.0 -0400 +++ org-agenda.el 2012-09-17 06:02:45.0 -0400 @@ -90,7 +90,7 @@ (defvar

[O] org-habit config contd

There is more to this bug. I don't think there is a problem with my patch, but it doesn't fix it on all systems. It fixed things on my Mac, but not on Linux or Windows. Blessed with a lack of understanding for exactly what is going on I find that changing the line in .emacs for

Re: [O] Google-weather.el and the Latest Git Version of Org-mode

Charles Philip Chan cpc...@bell.net writes: Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes: Hi Jude: It might be near time to investigate wunderground.com and loose google for weather before igoogle disappears. Other weather sites capable of text output may also be available, I haven't

Re: [O] Google-weather.el and the Latest Git Version of Org-mode

Charles Philip Chan cpc...@bell.net writes: Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes: Hi Jude: It might be near time to investigate wunderground.com and loose google for weather before igoogle disappears. Other weather sites capable of text output may also be available, I haven't

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 08:00:18PM +0200, Bastien wrote: Hi Achim, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Achim Gratz writes: Can we see the full output, please? I got a mail from Robert (apparently not sent to the list) that the error was related to his use of some stuff in

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

A bug, perhaps ELPA related. Sorry to be so brief but I've got to run soon to the station. I'm going to be tied up for the next week, but if it's not figured out by then, I'll have time to look in more detail. I confirmed this on Linux, Mac, and Windows, all emacs 24.1. All respond the same.

Re: [O] are super-hidden technical blocks required?

Separating out the issue of how to hide and expose the content, why not use s-expressions for the hidden content? Org is built on a lisp engine and these will fit nicely into automation. It avoids a lot of parsing and other headaches, and an s-expression can hold any of the discussed

Re: [O] [GSoC] org-merge-driver weekly update

to manage such archival is one that I haven't given much thought, since disk space is cheap and it's easy to collapse the old stuff.) Robert Horn

Re: [O] [GSoC] org-merge-driver weekly update

Another area that would be nice to address is taking advantage of the information in date-trees so assist with merging. This is similar to the logic around keeping headlines in order. With date trees there is a date and sometimes time tag to help. In addition to the occurrence order, there is

[O] Date-tree navigation question

Is there a short simple key sequence that will take you to the last entry in a date-tree and open that headline? Slightly better would be a way to go to the last, and open the last N headlines. It could be generalized into go to end of current item and open last N items of whatever depth

Re: [O] dates before 1970

So I am not sure what 64 bit systems do now or in the future, but it seems that we need to live with a restriction for now. Maybe this should be documented somewhere. - Carsten Most 64-bit systems use a 64-bit int. All of the 64-bit Linux systems that I've used use a signed 64-bit int.

[Orgmode] What is the proper way to set the time span for a diary-float appointment?

I wanted to set up a regular meeting that would appear in the agenda grid. I discovered that the following works: ... Regular Meeting 13:00-14:00 %%(diary-float t 2 1) This creates a first tuesday of each month meeting, from 1300h to 1400h. This works because the default for the

[Orgmode] Re: Habits bug?

I tracked down the problem I was seeing. It's unrelated to habits. I just connected it with habits because it affects them, as well as other things. The default behavior of the built-in agenda is to set the point in the agenda to be today. This is not the default for custom commands. The

[Orgmode] Re: Habits bug?

On 11/11/2010 07:07 AM, Matt Lundin wrote: Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu writes: I just noticed the following oddity. 1.) I have a custom agenda that consists of: (setq org-agenda-custom-commands '((h Agenda and This Week tasks ((agenda ) (todo THISWEEK) 2.) I

[Orgmode] Habits bug?

I just noticed the following oddity. 1.) I have a custom agenda that consists of: (setq org-agenda-custom-commands '((h Agenda and This Week tasks ((agenda ) (todo THISWEEK) 2.) I have the default agenda period of 1 week at startup. The behavior I see is: a) When

Re: [Orgmode] Re: Adding tags, grouping tags

On 10/25/2010 02:18 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi, I have the feeling that there are really two strands of discussion going on here. 1. A two-level or even hierarchical way to *enter* *normal* tags, i.e. tags that are specified in the headline of a node. 2. A complex new structure

Re: [Orgmode] Re: Adding tags, grouping tags

On 10/16/10 4:09 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: On Oct 16, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Robert Horn wrote: On 10/16/2010 01:32 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: On Oct 15, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Ilya Shlyakhter wrote: Karl Maihofer ignoramus at gmx.de writes: Besides that I have tags in other contexts, e.g. GTD

Re: [Orgmode] Re: Adding tags, grouping tags

On 10/16/2010 01:32 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: On Oct 15, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Ilya Shlyakhter wrote: Karl Maihofer ignoramus at gmx.de writes: Besides that I have tags in other contexts, e.g. GTD-related tags etc. So it would be very useful to be able to group the tags as it is possible for

Re: [Orgmode] Update for habit documentation

On 09/29/2010 12:07 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Robert, would you like to formulate a patch to org.texi? This is my proposed patch. I hope I've done this right. *** org.texi2010-10-06 09:06:20.0 -0400 --- org.texi-original 2010-07-21 12:42:48.0 -0400 ***

[Orgmode] Update for habit documentation

I've been using habits and found additional uses that are actually implemented but not mentioned in the documentation. What I've found useful are: 1) Using a '++' repeat style for habits that have calendar constraints. I use this for some activities that must be done on Monday, or on weekends.

[Orgmode] Install warning for org-7 for forgetful users

I ran into this, so I'll warn others. It might belong in the notes for org-7.01. If you have a newer version of emacs that has org already integrated, you get some, but not all, of the org-7.01 features functioning if you have org-7.01 set as the auto-load directory. I had been using org by