Re: [BUG] worg-setup.org is outdated (was: [accessibility] worg obscures text)

2022-06-12 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >>> Patches are welcome! We just need someone with knowledge of html/css to >>> jump in and create a patch for https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/worg (BTW, also >>> see shiny new https://sr.ht/~bzg/org/). >>> >&g

Re: Bug: html-postamble string does not allow space [9.4.4 (release_9.4.4 @ /usr/local/share/emacs/27.2/lisp/org/)]

2022-06-12 Thread Tim Cross
Confirm. I am able to reproduce this issue with GNU Emacs 28.1.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.33, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2022-05-29 Org mode version 9.5.4 (9.5.4-gc02c0d @ /home/tim/.emacs.husky/straight/build/org/) I also feel the manual page could be improved as it

Re: [accessibility] worg obscures text

2022-06-12 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> I agree, that is pretty poor formatting and does not work well and will >> never work well from an accessibility perspective. > > Patches are welcome! We just need someone with knowledge of html/css to > jump in a

Re: [accessibility] worg obscures text

2022-06-12 Thread Tim Cross
Samuel Wales writes: > on this page, i cannot read the rhs of paragraphs near the top because > the menu and up home elements obscure the text. > https://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#keeping-local-changes-current-with-Org-mode-development > . > > i use very large fonts. i have latest esr fire

Re: org-crypt ?

2022-06-11 Thread Tim Cross
David Masterson writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> David Masterson writes: >> >>> Tim Cross writes: >>> >>>> Warning: I have not used org-crypt for many years. These days, I just >>>> use a .org.gpg extensions and symmetrically

Re: org-crypt ?

2022-06-11 Thread Tim Cross
David Masterson writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> David Masterson writes: >> >>> I think I've gotten org-crypt working, but I think some things are not >>> making sense (it might be just me): >>> >>> 1. I've set org-crypt

Re: org-crypt ?

2022-06-10 Thread Tim Cross
David Masterson writes: > I think I've gotten org-crypt working, but I think some things are not > making sense (it might be just me): > > 1. I've set org-crypt-key to nil (symmetric encryption). > 2. Can I use a different encryption key for each encrypted paragraph? > 3. Does org-encrypt only

Re: Proposal: 'executable' org-capture-templaes

2022-06-08 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> I'm not sure I really understand the exact goal you have here. To me, it >> feels like yet another input selection/menu/completion scheme and I'm >> not clear on how it will be an improvement or why do something

Re: git branch rename and git config q

2022-06-08 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > I never used branch.*.rebase configuration. By the way, git-pull and > git-config > man pages a full of warnings related to this feature. I assume that source of > configuration is > https://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#keeping-local-changes-current-with-Org-mode-develop

Re: [DISCUSSION] Refactoring fontification system

2022-06-07 Thread Tim Cross
Tom Gillespie writes: >> As for lang parameter support in example blocks, would you mind creating >> a separate feature request thread? Extending export blocks export will >> require changing in parser syntax and thus should be discussed carefully >> in a separate thread. > > I would strongly c

Re: Proposal: 'executable' org-capture-templaes

2022-06-05 Thread Tim Cross
Arthur Miller writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> Arthur Miller writes: >> >>> However before I continue, I am thinking of ditching the 'read-key' >>> completely >>> and switching to "standard" Emacs way of implementing interactivity via >>> mode and >>> mode-map. I am currently playing w

Re: [DISCUSSION] Refactoring fontification system

2022-06-03 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> Instead of fontifying elements individually via regexps, we can leverage >> org-element-map, org-element-parse-buffer, org-element-cache, and >> jit-lock-mode. Each type of Org element/object can be assigned with a >> fontification function

Re: # Comments export

2022-05-30 Thread Tim Cross
Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Eric S Fraga writes: > >> I use drawers for this and then have specific processing of different >> types of drawers, depending on target. >> >> For instance, I might have :note: drawers (similar to inline tasks) with >> the following processing (for odt export; simi

Re: a simple(r) html export format (like org-mime)

2022-05-30 Thread Tim Cross
Uwe Brauer writes: > Hi > > Although the vanilla html export backend produces nice html, I sometimes need > a > simpler solution[1], like the one produced by org-mime (which is for email). > Does anybody know about such an exporter? > You seem to be aware of htmlise and I have no other sugges

Re: export a org table to ascii format (tabs) are not conserved, culprit orgtbl-to-tsv?

2022-05-30 Thread Tim Cross
Uwe Brauer writes: > Hi > > I wanted to export a 4x4 table to ascii to insert it into a web fill in > interface. However the column get distorted. I tried to tabify or > untabify the buffer but it did not help. > > > The problem also occurs when I export the table using the > orgtbl-to-tsv > >

Re: Opening org-cite links with different application

2022-05-26 Thread Tim Cross
"Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 12:47 PM Max Nikulin wrote: > >> I have had a quick glance into the code I have an additional question >> why `browse-url' is not used for `citar-file-open-external'. > > The "external" here means opening files external to emacs. > > The typica

Re: org-clock idle time in pgtk Emacs

2022-05-24 Thread Tim Cross
Julien Cubizolles writes: > org-clock checks for the 'x window-system in order to use the program > set up by org-clock-x11idle-program-name. Recent Emacs versions use the > 'pgtk instead of 'x and as such will default to using > org-emacs-idle-seconds in org-user-idle-seconds. > I"m not sure

Re: About 'inline special blocks'

2022-05-23 Thread Tim Cross
I've not got a lot to add here. I'm not against the idea, but Juan makes some points below which I think are particularly important and wanted to add weight to them! Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Hi, Kaushal, thanks for all your interesting comments, > > Kaushal Modi writes: > >> The challengin

Re: Question Regarding Easier Issues To Help With

2022-05-22 Thread Tim Cross
"Samuel Banya" writes: > Hey there, > So I took a look at the following link recently as I finally have had time > again over the past couple of months since I've been > dealing with a lot of personal family stuff, and got some time back again. > > Can anyone lead me in the right direction for

Re: I can't set dabbrev to respect the writen case

2022-05-16 Thread Tim Cross
Ypo writes: > Thanks, Samuel > > I've uninstalled fancy-dabbrev, and it seems to work when I complete using > M-/. But, now I don't have candidates to choose the > completion. Any advice with this? > > Best regards, > Ypo > You might want to have a look at the corfu and cape packages. https

Re: [BUG] The latest org-fold feature breaks link :activate-func property

2022-04-28 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > "Christopher M. Miles" writes: > >> I use extension >> [[https://repo.or.cz/org-link-beautify.git][org-link-beautify]] to display >> text-property beautify content on link. With >> latest org-mode source code on commit "1ed9e4223", I got this error which >> displaye

Re: Bug in orgalist mode's advice on indent-according-to-mode

2022-04-27 Thread Tim Cross
Eric Abrahamsen writes: > In Emacs commit f596f0db82c0b1ff3fe8e8f1d8b07d2fe7504ab6, from Nov 2021, > the function `indent-according-to-mode' was given an optional > inhibit-widen argument. That argument being passed causes orgalist's > advice to fail, as the lambda doesn't accept any additional

Re: [BUG] The latest org-fold feature breaks link :activate-func property

2022-04-27 Thread Tim Cross
"Christopher M. Miles" writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > > I use extension > [[https://repo.or.cz/org-link-beautify.git][org-link-beautify]] to display > text-property beautify content on link. With > latest org-mode source code on commit "1ed9e4223", I got this error which > display

Re: [tip] Org speed commands improved

2022-04-26 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Juan Manuel Macías writes: > >> Org speed commands are a major productivity boost and I love them. >> Lately it has occurred to me to make some modifications with the >> following configuration, which I share here in case someone wants to try >> it. The idea is that Or

Re: Some feature requests/questions

2022-04-26 Thread Tim Cross
Philip Kaludercic writes: > Hi, > > I was wondering if someone could help me out to solve these annoyances I > have been having with Org: > > 1. Most things I would like to clock are related to Emacs, but I often >forget to check my agenda first, clock in, then clock out. Is there >som

Re: bug#54764: encode-time: make DST and TIMEZONE fields of the list argument optional ones

2022-04-14 Thread Tim Cross
Paul Eggert writes: > On 4/14/22 06:19, Max Nikulin wrote: > >> date-time + "America/Los_Angeles" input should not be reduced to timezone >> offset >> in the output. > > It depends on the application. For some applications (e.g., generating > "Date:" lines > in email), it is entirely correct

Re: #+latex_header blocks, or, managing lots of LaTeX headers

2022-04-11 Thread Tim Cross
William Denton writes: > I have another question related to managing a book I'm doing building for > export to LaTeX: > what do people do for managing all of the headers? > I only use the #+latex_headers or #+latext-headers-extra lines for 'one off' type documents. If I'm going to be writing

Re: [BUG] error when saving a new capture [9.5.2 (9.5.2-g971eb6 @ /home/torysa/emacs/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]

2022-04-06 Thread Tim Cross
web...@toryanderson.com (Tory S. Anderson) writes: > Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and > what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See > > https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback > > Your bug report will be posted to

Re: Multiline list entries / Is auto-fill-mode in org(roam) usual?

2022-04-04 Thread Tim Cross
c.bu...@posteo.jp writes: > Dear Tim > > Am 04.04.2022 17:49 schrieb Tim Cross: >> What is line-fill-mode? It isn't a 'standard' emacs mode, so must be >> some add-on? > > Sorry this was a "typo". > >> At any rate, I don't see

Re: Multiline list entries / Is auto-fill-mode in org(roam) usual?

2022-04-04 Thread Tim Cross
c.bu...@posteo.jp writes: > Thanks to the discussion I now can see and describe my problem clearer. > > When using line-fill-mode it does not take the current org list indention into > account. Because of this org lines like this will appear. > > - one entry with a very long text ending in the s

Re: Multiline list entries / Is auto-fill-mode in org(roam) usual?

2022-04-04 Thread Tim Cross
c.bu...@posteo.jp writes: > Am 04.04.2022 09:16 schrieb c.bu...@posteo.jp: >> Am 04.04.2022 06:06 schrieb Ihor Radchenko: >>> A list item continues until >>> there are _2_ blank lines or until the subsequent line is not indented >= >>> current list item indentation: >> Intereseting. What 2 line

Re: [BUG] org-agenda thinks timestamps after 23:00 correspond to the next day [9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-25-gaf6f12 @ /home/ignacio/repos/emacs/lisp/org/)]

2022-03-31 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > New calling convention for `encode-time' exists since emacs-27.1, so it is > incompatible with yet supported emacs-26. It is unfortunate that sources in > Org > and in Emacs repository diverged, but I am unsure if it reasonable to > introduce > a new compatibility wrappe

Re: [RFC] DOCT: Declarative Org Capture Templates (easier template syntax)

2022-03-23 Thread Tim Cross
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> >>> I think there should be a direct mapping between Customize interface and >>> values. Adding this macro as a band-aid to simply configuration is not, >>> IMO, a solution. >> >> I think that current customize

Re: Timestamp parsing inside node properties and other contexts out of org-element-object-restrictions (was: [BUG] Agenda no longer works for timestamps inside properties drawer [9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-

2022-03-22 Thread Tim Cross
"Tom Davey" writes: > Hi Tim, > > Thanks for these thoughtful comments. I agree that the Org developers (to > whom I, as a mere user, owe enormous thanks) must be wary before making > changes to how timestamps are handled. > > This argues, I would say, for keeping what I believe was the statu

Re: Timestamp parsing inside node properties and other contexts out of org-element-object-restrictions (was: [BUG] Agenda no longer works for timestamps inside properties drawer [9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-

2022-03-22 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> After further reading the source code, I figured that agenda is, in >> fact, supposed to handle timestamps inside property drawers. Optional >> arguments for org-at-timestamp-p imply that, in agenda specifically, >> timestamps inside node pr

Re: [BUG] Agenda no longer works for timestamps inside properties drawer [9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-24-g668205 @ /home/ignacio/repos/emacs/lisp/org/)]

2022-03-22 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> so i guess i am interested in the rationale. example of ts [and text] >> search being useful might be an example or ledger block that contains >> ledger source, or something like that. i can get why bare ts not >> being matched inside links

Re: How do you manage complex project with Org-mode

2022-03-20 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> For example, I >> would not have a task which says to review my tasks twice a week. Do you >> really need a task to remind you to do this twice a week? Do you really >> need to track that you have done this?

Re: [BUG] org-capture autoload bug? [9.5.2 (9.5.2-gfbff08 @ /home/ignacio/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.5.2/)]

2022-03-14 Thread Tim Cross
Ignacio Casso writes: >> Regardless, I don't think having the situation where the programmer must >> know (guess) whether autoload will/could execute during the evaluation >> of code they write is tenable and am beginning to suspect it may be an >> Emacs bug OR a subtle bug in org-mode as a res

Re: [BUG] org-capture autoload bug? [9.5.2 (9.5.2-gfbff08 @ /home/ignacio/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.5.2/)]

2022-03-14 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 12/03/2022 02:59, Tim Cross wrote: >> Ignacio Casso writes: > >>>(let ((org-capture-templates >>> '(("d" "default" entry >>> (file+headline org-default-notes-file "Tasks&quo

Re: Code blocks and quotes export style

2022-03-13 Thread Tim Cross
"Barton, Mark" writes: > I manually check the pdf to see if it fits and use a code formatter to get the > line widths shorter. I use blacken for python and sqlformat for SQL within > Emacs. Even then I still hit limits where I recently changed to font size to > small for the code blocks. > > I

Re: [BUG] org-capture autoload bug? [9.5.2 (9.5.2-gfbff08 @ /home/ignacio/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.5.2/)]

2022-03-11 Thread Tim Cross
Ignacio Casso writes: > Max Nikulin writes: > >> Ignacio, I think, you can add (require 'org-capture) inside your >> function just before `let' and it would work almost as lazy loading. > > Thanks, I was already using (require 'org-capture) in my init file to > solve this. As I said, it's not

Re: How do you manage complex project with Org-mode

2022-03-02 Thread Tim Cross
Sébastien Gendre writes: > Hello Tim, > > Thanks for your response and advice. > > I want to keep Org-mode as simple as possible. As you suggest. > > In the past, I ended up several times with a too complex Org-mode > workflow and stop using it because of that. That because, today, I want > to

Re: org-modern

2022-03-01 Thread Tim Cross
William Denton writes: > I noticed org-modern in the list of new packages available: > > https://github.com/minad/org-modern > > Worth a look by any Org users, just for the screenshots comparing Org buffers > normally and with > org-modern. Fine work from Daniel Mendler, who I think is on thi

Re: How do you manage complex project with Org-mode

2022-03-01 Thread Tim Cross
Sébastien Gendre writes: > Hello, > > I don't know if it's the correct place to ask it. If not, sorry to ask in > the wrong place. > I think it is the correct place. This is a list for general org mode discussions. Such discussions can be technical or about how to use org mode. > How do you m

Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website

2022-02-27 Thread Tim Cross
Bastien Guerry writes: > > Discourse is nice but I'm not favor of installing an instance for Org. > > Beginners often ask questions on reddit.com and stackoverflow.com (and > perhaps elsewhere): perhaps some regular users of these websites could > serve as "contributors stewards", redirecting i

Re: ox-taskjuggler missing

2022-02-19 Thread Tim Cross
Greg Sullivan writes: > Trying to export to taskjuggler (tj3) to get a gantt chart as in this > description. > But I can't find the taskjuggler exporter. > > emacs-version > => GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0, NS appkit-1671.60 > Version 10.14.6 (Build 18G95)) of 2021-11-18

Re: Reload uncompiled needed

2022-02-17 Thread Tim Cross
"Loris Bennett" writes: > Hi, > > I have managed to install 9.5 but I now get > > org-agenda-get-day-entries: Invalid function: (date date) > > when I try to generate my agenda. If I reload Org uncompiled, the error > disappears. > > In *Messages* it seems like the very same version has bee

Re: Unable to get current or via use-package

2022-02-10 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >>> Is that necessary? Can't I just use the package manager to update Org >>> along with any other packages? Or does the issue about not visiting and >>> .org file before installing via the package manager ap

Re: Unable to get current or via use-package

2022-02-10 Thread Tim Cross
Loris Bennett writes: > "Cook, Malcolm" writes: > >> >> emacs -Q -batch -eval "(progn (require 'package) (package-initialize) >> (package-refresh-contents) (package-install 'org))" > > Is that necessary? Can't I just use the package manager to update Org > along with any other packages?

Re: the old "zsh:1: command not found: latexmk"

2022-02-08 Thread Tim Cross
bruce robertson writes: > I have the directory, /usr/local/texlive/2021/bin/universal-darwin, in .zshrc > & .zprofile > AND > in exec-path > Do I need to file a bug to get help? > > Thanks, > Bruce Have you verified latexmk is in one of those directories? What does the command which latexmk

Re: [PATCH] Add support for $…$ latex fragments followed by a dash

2022-02-06 Thread Tim Cross
Rudolf Adamkovič writes: > João Pedro de Amorim Paula writes: > >> On 01 February 2022 22:00, Rudolf Adamkovič wrote: >> >>> Me, I cannot use any of these "pretty" features because, simply put, >>> they break plain text. For example, they cause misaligned tables and >>> make the text overflo

Re: Suggestion: convert dispatchers to use transient

2022-02-03 Thread Tim Cross
Jim Porter writes: > On 2/3/2022 2:07 AM, Tim Cross wrote: >> After 28.0 is released, if transient is a GNU ELPA package, we can >> probably just make it an org dependency and Emacs 26.x and 27.x should >> be able to install and run it (would need to be verified). > &g

Re: Suggestion: convert dispatchers to use transient

2022-02-03 Thread Tim Cross
Hugo Heagren writes: > Org uses various dispatchers, where invoking a command gives the user a > choice of different sub-commands, chosen by pressing a relevant key, > from a list displayed on the screen. Some of these dispatchers include > options which can affect the command chosen. Examples

emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

2022-01-30 Thread Tim Cross
chris writes: > On Monday, 31 January 2022 04:49:59 CET chris wrote: >> On Monday, 31 January 2022 04:43:34 CET chris wrote: >> > On Monday, 31 January 2022 04:28:06 CET Ihor Radchenko wrote: >> > > chris writes: >> > > >> What will happen if you try (kill-new "something") in your Emacs >> > >

Re: [PATCH] Add support for $…$ latex fragments followed by a dash

2022-01-27 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Rudolf Adamkovič writes: > >> Let $r_i$ denote the \(i\)-th rotation of $t$ with a suffix of $\ell|t|$ >> characters deleted, for […] >> >> Me, if I could, I would pay money for this feature, for it would allow >> me to use $$ consistently, focusing on mathematics inst

Re: Poor org-babel-tangle-file performance with more than 100 trivial noweb-references

2022-01-25 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > pareto optimal writes: > >> Using =emacs -Q= to tangle org files with more than over 100 noweb-refs gets >> slow fast. >> >> Given this org code for N=2: >> Using Gcc Emacs 28.0.91 (which I typicall use) I get these results: >> >> | N blocks | runtime | # of GCs | >>

Re: Extend the existing alternative set of key bindings for terminals (was: Second Ctl in keychord not detected)

2022-01-25 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> Ihor Radchenko writes: >> >>> Also, it appears to me that we may keep losing terminal-incompatible >>> keys in future unless we provide some mechanisms to check terminal >>> compatibility automat

Re: Exporting Org file to Html with collapsable headings

2022-01-21 Thread Tim Cross
ZIPING CHEN writes: > Hi, > > I am working on a large org file with exceptional number of subheadings. For > example, I may have org headings inside headings up > to 20 or 30 layers deep. > > I may have many things like this in the middle of the file. > ** a new heading

Re: Extend the existing alternative set of key bindings for terminals (was: Second Ctl in keychord not detected)

2022-01-21 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Also, it appears to me that we may keep losing terminal-incompatible > keys in future unless we provide some mechanisms to check terminal > compatibility automatically. Any ideas? > No ideas on this. Problem being I don't think there is anything like a terminfo service

Re: Depreciating TeX-style LaTeX fragments

2022-01-16 Thread Tim Cross
Colin Baxter 😺 writes: >> Sébastien Miquel writes: > > > Hi, With respect to readability, I only mean to point out that the > > $…$ syntax is one less character, and that the \(\) characters are > > quite overloaded. > > Indeed. Compare something like > > $g=\lim_{\delta m\to 0

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-14 Thread Tim Cross
fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > Jan 15, 2022, 02:13 by e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk: > >> On Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 14:44, fatipa...@tutanota.com wrote: >> >>> I would like to include the customisation using elisp code >>> >> >> Have a look at, for instance, >> >> ,[

Re: Playing down the text in org-mode

2022-01-13 Thread Tim Cross
fatiparty--- via "General discussions about Org-mode." writes: > In org-mode one can use the emphasizing tags > > *word*   /word/   _word_ > > Is there anything to perform the opposite, playing down the text? No, there are no syntax elements in org mode to do this. Part of the challenge he

Re: [BUG] Prefer lowercase #+results [9.5.2 (release_9.5.2-3-geb9f34 @ /Users/salutis/src/emacs/nextstep/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/)]

2022-01-08 Thread Tim Cross
Rudolf Adamkovič writes: > If I remember well, Org decided to suggest with lowercase keywords (and > use uppercase keywords in the manual, for some reason). Then, we should > change "org-babel-results-keyword" from "RESULTS" to "results". > > (1) Example #1 > > #+begin_src R :results verbatim

Re: org table problems with sorting of some column

2021-12-31 Thread Tim Cross
Uwe Brauer writes: > [[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]] >>>> "TC" == Tim Cross writes: > >> Uwe Brauer writes: > > >> For problem 1, I suspect you will need to either change the date format >> or tell org what the date format is. It won'

Re: org table problems with sorting of some column

2021-12-30 Thread Tim Cross
Uwe Brauer writes: > [[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]] > > > * Problem 1 > > I imported this column from a CVS file, so the date format was already chosen. > > | Date | > || > | 05.05.2020 | > | 07.01.2021 | > | 07.01.2021 | > | 07.05.2020 | > | 09.03.2021 | > | 12.05.2020 |

Re: block folding - should this work?

2021-12-29 Thread Tim Cross
Robert Nikander writes: > I started reading about “blocks" in the manual. I wanted a chunk of text that > I could hide, so I tried this: > > * Test > Some text > #+BEGIN > Hide this > #+END > > Hitting TAB on the BEGIN line does nothing. But if I add a blank line before > it, > then hitting

Re: C-c C-, in a terminal?

2021-12-28 Thread Tim Cross
Anssi Saari writes: > Hi all, while it's not an ORG mode question exactly, I have a problem > with org-insert-structure-template and it's default shortcut, C-c C-, in > terminals. > > As C-, isn't usually a control character in a terminal, terminals send > just the comma if I hit C-,. Some term

Re: Dealing with growing backlog (was: next-error for agenda searches)

2021-12-24 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> one issue with this great thing called capture is that there is >> nothing quite so convenient that does the exact opposite. >> >> [you can regularly purge, if your life/forest is simple enough or you >> have the physical ability to do things.

Re: text after sub headings?

2021-12-23 Thread Tim Cross
Robert Nikander writes: > I see why this is not possible, given the text format of an org file. But I > am curious if people think it would be useful. This is a bit off-topic maybe, > but I’m imagining what I would do if I created something like org-mode using > another underlying format. >

Re: Parens matching errors in org-babel code blocks

2021-12-21 Thread Tim Cross
I think this is a known problem (Org probably needs a PROBLEMS or KNOWN_PROBLEMS file in addition to a NEWS file). Problem is that org treats things like <> as special paren syntax because they are used by org. Unfortunately, this causes problems with things like paren matching in org files if y

Re: format/fill of text in a cell in tables

2021-12-17 Thread Tim Cross
writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 08:51:59AM +1100, Tim Cross wrote: > > [on flowing text whithin table cells] > >> I agree. This is actually a much harder problem to solve than it may >> appear on the surface [...] > > Tables h

Re: format/fill of text in a cell in tables

2021-12-16 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > George Michaelson writes: > >> Thank you for the continuing support for Org mode. I really appreciate >> the work done. >> >> I would love to understand why there is no built-in 'fill/wrap' >> function for text in a cell, inside an org mode table. >> >> Given how this

Re: [PATCH] org-test: Create a collaborative test set for Org buffer parser

2021-12-14 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 11/12/2021 21:39, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > > Since these tests will unlikely become a part of some software, I do not think > that GPL may be an obstacle for any project. Requirement of signed consent > will > likely prevent contributing of new cases from some developer

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-11 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> ... while I totally agree we should work >> very hard not to break compatibility or adversely affect other projects >> which are built on top of org mode, like org-roam, we also don't want to >> find ours

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-09 Thread Tim Cross
"Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > > Russell Adams writes: > >> Did Org break your Org editing experience in Emacs for your Org files, >> or did this change just break some of the finer formatting details of >> your exported Org file? > > The change to electr

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-08 Thread Tim Cross
Russell Adams writes: > On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 08:22:31PM +0100, Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: >> > - Anything outside of basic Org syntax, tables and source blocks I do >> >directly in latex. Images are a good example. I will use latex code >> >for the image, sizing, orientation,

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-08 Thread Tim Cross
"Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > > Russell Adams writes: > >> On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 05:16:20PM +0100, Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: >>> >>> Tim Cross writes: >>> > To date, I only had a bigge

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-08 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> Meanwhile, Emacs development continues and new features/capabilities >> continue to be added. In particular, a new feature is added which is >> extremely powerful and would be a huge benefit for Emacs org-mode users

Re: From macros to elisp programming?

2021-12-06 Thread Tim Cross
Ypo writes: > Hi > > I am able to make macros, but I think I am far away from Lisp programming. > > Is there a path to go from macros to elisp programming? For example, the last > macro I've made is for transforming the name of some > headlines, adding in front of them a part from the previous

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-05 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> I think your working off a false premise. Your view is that org mode >> should be available in other editors/software so that others can realise >> the power and benefits it provides. I can understand that position.

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-05 Thread Tim Cross
"Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 8:42 AM Tim Cross wrote: > >> I think your working off a false premise. Your view is that org mode >> should be available in other editors/software so that others can realise >> the power and benefits it p

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-05 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Juan Manuel Macías writes: > >> Yes, sorry for not explaining myself well: I was also referring to >> search results, not the title in the web site... >> >> But the question is: what need is there to remove the reference to Emacs >> in the search result? I think the em

Re: Concrete suggestions to improve Org mode third-party integration :: an afterthought following Karl Voit's Orgdown proposal

2021-12-05 Thread Tim Cross
Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> The website title is "Org mode for Emacs", repelling users who _do >>not want_ to use Org inside Emacs. Maybe we can do better? Something >>with less accent on Emacs like "Org mode: your life in plain text" > > I am not at all in

Re: [PATCH] Fix org-comment-line-break-function

2021-12-04 Thread Tim Cross
Given that Nicholas cannot remember the reason for the original function and suspects it was meant to be an internal only function, I think this patch is probably the best way forward and should be applied. Kaushal Modi writes: > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:29 PM Tim Cross wrote: > >

Re: [PATCH] org-src.el: add option `org-src-native-defun-movements'

2021-12-04 Thread Tim Cross
Sébastien Miquel writes: > Hi, > > Thank you for having a look. > > Tim Cross writes: >> This also seems like an edge case and I'm not convinced yet another >> option is justified. Why have eilisp in org blocks rather than an >> emacs-lisp block? > >

Re: quotation marks in table cell vs. org-babel-ref-resolve

2021-12-04 Thread Tim Cross
Greg Minshall writes: > hi, Tim, > >> The key question is what is the use case for having this 'mixed' content >> in a table cell? > > in my case, i am putting RFC822('ish) e-mail addresses in a column of an > org-mode table. and, i want to extract them. > > | oxymo...@example.com

Re: On zero width spaces and Org syntax

2021-12-04 Thread Tim Cross
Max Nikulin writes: > On 04/12/2021 04:48, Tim Cross wrote: >> My vote is to simply maintain the status quo. Don't modify the syntax, >> don't make the zero space character somewhat special or processed in any >> special way during export. In short, accept tha

Re: Org-syntax: Intra-word markup

2021-12-03 Thread Tim Cross
Tom Gillespie writes: > I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but the edge cases for > the current markup syntax are already hard enough to > implement correctly, to the point where different parts of > Org mode are inconsistent. Intra-word markup isn't viable > because there simply isn't any sane

Re: quotation marks in table cell vs. org-babel-ref-resolve

2021-12-03 Thread Tim Cross
Greg Minshall writes: > fwiw, tracing, the problem appears to be this line > > ((eq (string-to-char cell) ?\") (read cell)) > > in =org-babel-read=. > > presumably there are many cases where this is the right thing to do. > > but, maybe look for a simple =^"[^"]*"$= (i.e., a quotation

Re: [PATCH] org-src.el: add option `org-src-native-defun-movements'

2021-12-03 Thread Tim Cross
Sébastien Miquel writes: > Hi, > > The attached patch adds a new option ~org-src-native-defun-movements~ > that makes ~beginning-of-defun~, ~end-of-defun~ and ~eval-defun~ work > natively when called from inside an org src block : those functions > are called from an org src edit buffer, in the

Re: On zero width spaces and Org syntax

2021-12-03 Thread Tim Cross
Juan Manuel Macías writes: > Hi all, > > It is usually recommended, as you know, to insert a zero width space > character (Unicode U+200B) as a sort of delimiter mark to solve the > scenarios of emphasis within a word (for example, =/meta/literature=) > and others contexts where emphasis marks

Re: Orgdown: negative feedback & attempt of a root-cause analysis

2021-12-01 Thread Tim Cross
Karl Voit writes: > Hi, > > I've summarized my current state of mind about the whole Orgdown > fiasco into a blog article: > https://karl-voit.at/2021/12/02/Orgdown-feedback/ > > Don't worry, I tried to analyze my own faults as well so that others > might be able to learn from this unfortunate

Re: frustrations

2021-12-01 Thread Tim Cross
Jan Ulrich Hasecke writes: > Hi all, > > after happily using straight for quite a while I am currently frustrated by a > couple of problems. > > In a different thread I asked about exporting citations, which does not > work for me at all. > > Today I discovered that pamparam does not work anymo

Re: [PATCH] Fix org-comment-line-break-function

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Cross
Kaushal Modi writes: > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:29 PM Tim Cross wrote: > > It would be good to get Nicholas' input here as I think he wrote the > original function back in 2012. > > Just to see what happens, I tried this: > > M-: (setq-local comment-line-br

Re: Orgdown: negative feedback & attempt of a root-cause analysis (was: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode)

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Cross
Tom Gillespie writes: > Karl, >The exact naming of a thing is nearly always the most contentious > step in trying to promulgate it. In my own field we can easily get all > parties to agree on a definition, but they refuse to budge on a name. > As others have said, I wouldn't worry about kib

Re: [PATCH] Fix org-comment-line-break-function

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Cross
Kaushal Modi writes: > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 3:20 PM Marco Wahl wrote: > > diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el > index 1a1375461..fdeec0d67 100644 > --- a/lisp/org.el > +++ b/lisp/org.el > @@ -19695,7 +19695,8 @@ non-nil." > (save-excursion (forward-char -

Re: [PATCH] Fix org-comment-line-break-function

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Cross
Marco Wahl writes: > Hi Richard and all, > > [...] > >> Just to be extra, super sure, I built Emacs this afternoon from a >> checkout of the repo, and the error is *still* there, with the same >> cause. In that build, with emacs -Q, I have: >> >> (org-version) >> "9.5" >> >> (emacs-version) >>

Re: Is M-j broken for you in Org on Emacs 27 and 28?

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Cross
Richard Lawrence writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> I'm running Emacs 28 and cannot reproduce the issue you observe. > > Hmm, the plot thickens! > >> Running emacs -Q I find M-j is bound to >> >> M-j runs the command default-indent-new-line (foun

Re: Is M-j broken for you in Org on Emacs 27 and 28?

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Cross
Richard Lawrence writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> I'm running Emacs 28 and cannot reproduce the issue you observe. > > Hmm, the plot thickens! > >> Running emacs -Q I find M-j is bound to >> >> M-j runs the command default-indent-new-line (foun

Re: Is M-j broken for you in Org on Emacs 27 and 28?

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Cross
Richard Lawrence writes: > Colin Baxter 😺 writes: > >> I confirm that it also appears broken to me in emacs-27.2, with the same >> error as you found. I have never noticed it before, possibly because I >> use C-j rather than M-j. > > Thanks for confirming. Do you know what the difference betwe

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