Re: [O] About `open formula'

[Shelagh Manton]

On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:20:13 +0800, Xue Fuqiao wrote:

> In (info "(org) Editing and debugging formulas"):
> 
> ` (`org-table-fedit-lisp-indent')'
>   Pretty-print or indent Lisp formula at point.  When in a line
>   containing a Lisp formula, format the formula according to
>   Emacs Lisp rules.  Another  collapses the formula back
>   again.  In the open formula,  re-indents just like in
>   Emacs Lisp mode.
> 
> What does the `open formula' mean?  I've searched the Org manual/FAQ and
> web, and I only found this:
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-
part2.html
> 
> But it seems that the `open formula' doesn't mean this.

I think perhaps if you read it as "when your cursor in in the formula 
text" it might make more sense. 

Shelagh

Re: [O] [bug] Symbol's function definition is void: org-pop-to-buffer-same-window

[shelagh Manton]

On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 09:34:21 +0100, Sebastien Vauban wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Nick Dokos wrote:
>> Shelagh Manton 
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:19:36 -0500, Nick Dokos wrote:
>>>> Shelagh Manton
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:40:11 -0300, Kenny Meyer wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Sebastien Vauban I am getting the
>>>>>> same message here upon calling various org-functions (e.g.:
>>>>>> org-drill, org-submit-bug-report), since I have compiled org-mode
>>>>>> from git, but I am not sure where exactly the error was introduced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Explicitly Loading `org-compat' does cure this problem...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Requiring org-compat does not fix that here. Can you tell me where
>>>>>> exactly you loaded org-compat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Org-mode version 7.7 (release_7.7.617.gb1f2) GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1
>>>>>> (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.2.0) of 2011-09-29
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In conditions which I consider unchanged (I speak of my emacs
>>>>>>> config file), with the latest Org-mode version, I now have the
>>>>>>> message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    let*: Symbol's function definition is void:
>>>>>>>    org-pop-to-buffer-same-window
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when doing, for example, `C-c C-x C-j' to jump on the currently
>>>>>>> clocked item.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Explicitly Loading `org-compat' does cure this problem... But we
>>>>>>> must miss a `require' somewhere, but where?  In `org.el' itself?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just been bitten by this as well. requiring org-compat manually
>>>>> did nothing. My config files have not changed, just pulled latest
>>>>> org-mode, did a make clean and make. Suddenly my org-drill sessions
>>>>> don't work.
>>>>
>>>> Did you restart emacs?
>>>
>>> Yes. I did just then and same thing.
>>
>> Do you get the error with org-drill only or do you get it in the
>> instances that Seb and Kenny Meyer report? If the former, it may be a
>> bug with org-drill. Otherwise, I throw up my hands: I certainly cannot
>> reproduce it.
> 
> FYI:
> 
> - I don't use .elc files.
> 
> - I've recently upgraded to Emacs 24.0.91.1 on Windows -- not sure if
> the
>   problem appeared directly after, or a little bit before.
> 
> - I began suspecting work that I could have done in a branch, and mixed
>   versions that way -- as I'm not yet familiar with git and switching
>   between branches.
> 
> - I've deleted all my Org directory, and cloned a fresh one
> 
> But it still occurs.
> 
> Though:
> 
> - Requiring org-compat does cure the problem.
> 
> - I see calls to org-compat in every crucial Org file -- I don't
> understand
>   where it could be missing.
> 
> - I still must try to dissecate my .emacs, or use a minimal Emacs config
> file
>   to see if it's reproducible that way.
> 
> But I currently really have no time for spending more time on it. I hope
> to be able to do so in one week or two.
> 
> Best regards,
>   Seb

In the end I just found the function and pasted it into my dotemacs file. 
I really need to get rid of my org-mode cruft. I have so many snippets 
and configs in separate files that probably should just be done in 
customize. I just don't have time to work out where all the problems are 
coming from unless they are showstoppers like this one.

Cheers
Shelagh

Re: [O] [bug] Symbol's function definition is void: org-pop-to-buffer-same-window

[Shelagh Manton]

On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:19:36 -0500, Nick Dokos wrote:

> Shelagh Manton  wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:40:11 -0300, Kenny Meyer wrote:
>> 
>> > I am getting the same message here upon calling various org-functions
>> > (e.g.: org-drill, org-submit-bug-report), since I have compiled
>> > org-mode from git, but I am not sure where exactly the error was
>> > introduced.
>> > 
>> >> Explicitly Loading `org-compat' does cure this problem...
>> > Requiring org-compat does not fix that here. Can you tell me where
>> > exactly you loaded org-compat?
>> > 
>> > Org-mode version 7.7 (release_7.7.617.gb1f2) GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1
>> > (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.2.0) of 2011-09-29
>> > 
>> > --
>> > Kenny Meyer
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Sebastien Vauban
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> In conditions which I consider unchanged (I speak of my emacs config
>> >> file), with the latest Org-mode version, I now have the message:
>> >>
>> >>    let*: Symbol's function definition is void:
>> >>    org-pop-to-buffer-same-window
>> >>
>> >> when doing, for example, `C-c C-x C-j' to jump on the currently
>> >> clocked item.
>> >>
>> >> Explicitly Loading `org-compat' does cure this problem... But we
>> >> must miss a `require' somewhere, but where?  In `org.el' itself?
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>  Seb
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Sebastien Vauban
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> Hi
>> 
>> I've just been bitten by this as well. requiring org-compat manually
>> did nothing. My config files have not changed, just pulled latest
>> org-mode, did a make clean and make. Suddenly my org-drill sessions
>> don't work.
>> 
>> 
> Did you restart emacs?

Yes. I did just then and same thing.

Shelagh
> 
> Nick
> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Shelagh
>> 
>>

Re: [O] [bug] Symbol's function definition is void: org-pop-to-buffer-same-window

[Shelagh Manton]

On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:40:11 -0300, Kenny Meyer wrote:

> I am getting the same message here upon calling various org-functions
> (e.g.: org-drill, org-submit-bug-report), since I have compiled org-mode
> from git, but I am not sure where exactly the error was introduced.
> 
>> Explicitly Loading `org-compat' does cure this problem...
> Requiring org-compat does not fix that here. Can you tell me where
> exactly you loaded org-compat?
> 
> Org-mode version 7.7 (release_7.7.617.gb1f2) GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1
> (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.2.0) of 2011-09-29
> 
> --
> Kenny Meyer
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Sebastien Vauban
>  wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> In conditions which I consider unchanged (I speak of my emacs config
>> file), with the latest Org-mode version, I now have the message:
>>
>>    let*: Symbol's function definition is void:
>>    org-pop-to-buffer-same-window
>>
>> when doing, for example, `C-c C-x C-j' to jump on the currently clocked
>> item.
>>
>> Explicitly Loading `org-compat' does cure this problem... But we must
>> miss a `require' somewhere, but where?  In `org.el' itself?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>  Seb
>>
>> --
>> Sebastien Vauban
>>
>>

Hi

I've just been bitten by this as well. requiring org-compat manually did 
nothing. My config files have not changed, just pulled latest org-mode, 
did a make clean and make. Suddenly my org-drill sessions don't work. 

Regards

Shelagh

Re: [O] dependencies and schedule repeater problem

[Shelagh Manton]

On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:17:51 +0100, Sandra Snan wrote:

> What I want is that if I look at my list of things to do, and I’ve
> already swept the floor and marked it as done, it shouldn’t bother me
> anymore for the day, but pop up the next day. And if I’ve swept the
> floor, I’ll be presented with the opportunity to also mop the floor, if
> it’s been a week since last time. (And I don’t want to mop an unswept
> floor. And I don’t need to mop every time I sweep.)
> 
> 
> This is what I have now.
> 
> I’m using GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll
> bars) of 2010-12-11 on brahms, modified by Debian and the version of
> org-mode that came with it.
> 
> * TODO mop the floor :home:
>   SCHEDULED: <2011-11-01 Tue .+1w>
> ** TODO sweep the floor
>SCHEDULED: <2011-11-01 Tue .+1d>
> 
> I have a custom agenda search that hides future items. For example,
> expressions like
> ("hh" tags-todo "home+SCHEDULED=\"\"|SCHEDULED<=\"\"") deep
> inside org-agenda-custom-commands.
> 
> I have custom-set
>  '(org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks (quote invisible))
>  '(org-enforce-todo-dependencies t)
> 
> The problem is that “sweep the floor” never gets marked done since it
> has a repeater, so “mop the floor” never becomes visible.
> 
> Can I fix this problem, or can I get the desired behavior some other
> way?
> 
> Thank you,
> Sandra


> 
> PS
> “mop the floor” and “sweep the floor” are just examples and so are the
> specific intervals. I have many different repeating and depending tasks
> that work like this.

Sandra

you might like to look at org-depend module if you have complicated 
dependency problems, but another way to "repeat" is to not use the 
repeater notation which never gives you a done chore but to use the clone 
subtree shift time (which you can find in the menu for edit structure)

Just some quick thoughts.

Shelagh

[Orgmode] Re: [babel] Suggestions: GRASS GIS und Lilypond

[Shelagh Manton]

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:37:19 +, Shelagh Manton wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:40:23 +, Martyn Jago wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I would be interested in a solution to lilypond within org, and would
>> be happy to fork on github and help out (I currently have some time
>> too).
>> 
>> Martyn
> 
> Ok Martyn,
> 
> I've put what I have done in a git repo on github.
> 
> g...@github.com:sshelagh/ob-lilypond.git
> 
> Things that need looking into.
> 
> The paths that are being generated so that the results block can find
> the images.
> 
> The lilypond commands that tell it to make a "snippet" picture. I
> started looking into this as it seems to have changed since I last used
> lilypond this way. I researched the switches but never actually tested
> them. -D preview.
> 
> I wonder how the changing syntax of lilypond can be dealt with? Will we
> need to test for lilypond versions?
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Shelagh
> 
> 
> 
>> Shelagh Manton  writes:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:59:19 +0100, Christian Moe wrote:
>>>
>>>> Earlier thread on Lilypond:
>>>> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/31324
>>>> 
>>>> 

Oops! I think this is the write access address. The following is the non-
write access address.

git://github.com/sshelagh/ob-lilypond.git

Shelagh
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[Orgmode] Re: [babel] Suggestions: GRASS GIS und Lilypond

[Shelagh Manton]

On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:40:23 +, Martyn Jago wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I would be interested in a solution to lilypond within org, and would be
> happy to fork on github and help out (I currently have some time too).
> 
> Martyn

Ok Martyn,

I've put what I have done in a git repo on github.

g...@github.com:sshelagh/ob-lilypond.git

Things that need looking into.

The paths that are being generated so that the results block can find the 
images.

The lilypond commands that tell it to make a "snippet" picture. I started 
looking into this as it seems to have changed since I last used lilypond 
this way. I researched the switches but never actually tested them. -D 
preview.

I wonder how the changing syntax of lilypond can be dealt with? Will we 
need to test for lilypond versions? 

Best wishes

Shelagh


> 
> Shelagh Manton  writes:
> 
>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:59:19 +0100, Christian Moe wrote:
>>
>>> Earlier thread on Lilypond:
>>> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/31324
>>> 
>>> 
>> I did end up doing some work on this. I got it to the stage of creating
>> the lilypond images but having some difficulties with paths etc. ie the
>> file exists but not where org-babel expects to find it. So it does not
>> show up in the file in a results block.
>>
>> I've been so busy, I have not visited this problem at all recently.
>> Perhaps if someone is interested to help we could work on this
>> together. I could put it on github. Let me know.
>>
>> Shelagh
>>
>>> CM
>>> 
>>> On 2/15/11 2:02 AM, Thorsten wrote:
>>>> Hello Babel developers,
>>>> just two suggestions for new languages: 1. GRASS GIS As far as I know
>>>> there is no grass-mode in emacs, but some expert people are
>>>> successful running grass processes together with R processes in ESS.
>>>> Since GRASS and R are natural allies, it would be great to use the
>>>> GRASS engine in an org-file to retrieve spatial data and then analyse
>>>> the data with R in the same file - would make Org a kind of
>>>> emacs-grassmode replacement.
>>>> 2. Lilypond
>>>> A nice to have for all the music lovers in the org community. Regards
>>>> Thorsten
>>>>
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[Orgmode] Re: [babel] Suggestions: GRASS GIS und Lilypond

[Shelagh Manton]

On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:59:19 +0100, Christian Moe wrote:

> Earlier thread on Lilypond:
> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/31324
> 

I did end up doing some work on this. I got it to the stage of creating 
the lilypond images but having some difficulties with paths etc. ie the 
file exists but not where org-babel expects to find it. So it does not 
show up in the file in a results block. 

I've been so busy, I have not visited this problem at all recently. 
Perhaps if someone is interested to help we could work on this together. 
I could put it on github. Let me know.

Shelagh

> CM
> 
> On 2/15/11 2:02 AM, Thorsten wrote:
>> Hello Babel developers,
>> just two suggestions for new languages: 1. GRASS GIS
>> As far as I know there is no grass-mode in emacs, but some expert
>> people are successful running grass processes together with R processes
>> in ESS. Since GRASS and R are natural allies, it would be great to use
>> the GRASS engine in an org-file to retrieve spatial data and then
>> analyse the data with R in the same file - would make Org a kind of
>> emacs-grassmode replacement.
>> 2. Lilypond
>> A nice to have for all the music lovers in the org community. Regards
>> Thorsten
>>
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[Orgmode] Re: need help with lisp for export function regarding timestamps

[Shelagh Manton]

Having said that, emacs has a number of regexp building utilities that
can help you. An inbuilt one M-x regexp-builder or the external library
regex-tool.el, which can be found at
https://github.com/jwiegley/regex-tool.git

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[Orgmode] Re: [OT] Have you also got hooked by Vim?

[Shelagh Manton]

I like zile for quick editing but of course not every computer has it
like ed or vi. It uses the same key chords as emacs but no extras.
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[Orgmode] Organising freezers and generating shopping lists

[Shelagh Manton]

I often find that I have lost food items in the botton of my freezer
that I have to throw out because I've forgotten about them and I'm
trying to set up an org-mode file that helps prevent that.

I've made a file that lists the articles that I have put into the
freezer such as different food types that have different freezer-lifes
(lives?). I have used deadlines for the moment to indicate best before
dates.

Ideally I would like to have some sort of automated system that alerts
me in the agenda that I have some sausages or something still in the
freezer that should be used soon but say a month before the actual
use-by date. I could see maybe using the SCHEDULED keyword for that. But
what I would like is that the todo word which is "AVAILABLE" gets changed
to say SOON (any better choices?) on the day indicated by the SCHEDULED
date.

Has anyone done something like this or could anyone suggest some code
that I could study to do this for myself?

Also of course if I change the status from AVAILABLE to USED because I
have actually taken it out of the freezer, I would like to be able to
add that Item to another file that could be exported to a shopping
list. I know I could look at some of the trigger functions that people
have sent into the mailing list. This I could probably work out myself
with enough time, but if someone could point me in the right direction I
would appreciate it.

A generic capture template that would let you add the category of food
and the use-by date could be automatically inserted eg if it is fish the
use-by date is automatically +3m from now. I haven't studied the new
capture templates yet, I still rely on my old remember set up. But would
the new capture templates be capable of this, especially with some
accompanying functions?

Just thinking on paper.

Regards

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[Orgmode] Re: arranging and publishing music with Org-mode and lilypond

[Shelagh Manton]

Christian Moe  writes:

> Hi,
>
> I've only used Lilypond for play, but I'd appreciate a Babel module
> for Lilypond, if someone writes one.
>
> My use case, for which I think Org is perfect, is maintaining simple
> song collections: short scores interspersed with lyrics, printable as
> a booklet. It is doable now but could clearly be done better with
> Babel.
>
> So if someone's thinking about ob-lilypond, integration with
> lilypond-book as a post-processing step would be useful.
>
> Yours,
> Christian

I have had an ob-LilyPond on my list of things to do for quite a while
now. If I have the next few days off, I will seriously look into it. 
But post integration with LilyPond-book is probably more than I would be
able to handle in the short term. 

Cheers
Shelagh
>
>
> On 10/4/10 4:31 AM, John Hendy wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 8:24 PM, T.F. Torrey > > wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>  > From: Stefan Vollmar mailto:voll...@nf.mpg.de>>
>>  > Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 00:26:39 +0200
>>  > Subject: [Orgmode] arranging and publishing music with Org-mode
>> and lilypond
>>  >
>>  > Dear all,
>>  >
>>  > I believe that many members of this list with an interest in
>> music (notation/composition) might find the http://lilypond.org
>> project "addictive" (in the nicest possible manner): the concept
>> is rather similar to writing TeX, there is very good Emacs support
>> (if you know where to look), it is all OpenSource, there is
>> extensive documentation (in LaTeX format with embedded lilypond
>> snippets), the print quality is excellent.
>>  >
>>  > I mention this because while arranging some piece of music
>> recently, I noticed that Org-mode might be helpful in this context
>> - it is probably already possible by tweaking org-babel a bit:
>> lilypond encourages the user to structure music in a way that
>> lends itself rather naturally to processing with Org-mode - you
>> can assign a theme, a few bar with notes or even whole voices to
>> variables and use them repeatedly. And imagine using Org-mode's
>> outline capabilities to structure a piece of music. Exporting an
>> org-file with lilypond-snippets in it to PDF or HTML might also be
>> an interesting option.
>>  >
>>  > I have not yet put any effort into it and just wanted to find
>> out if anybody apart from me finds the combination of Org-mode and
>> lilypond (potentially) exciting.
>>
>> I think this is very exciting.
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[Orgmode] Re: Having (too) many files in org-agenda-files

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Sébastien Vauban 
writes:

> Hi,
>
> Of course, I have many, many files in Org mode. All files I write (or touch)
> in fact.
>
> Of course, I would like to search through my files at some point in time.
> I even would like to search through your files at some point in time, I mean
> through =org-mode/contrib/babel= and =Worg= for example.
[snip]
>
> You'll tell me: not a problem, you do that only once a day, and you use Emacs
> client/server for the rest of the time. True. A bit, because I sometimes have
> to restart Emacs for testing a fresh one (not impacted by defvars already
> defined, or deffaces, etc.).
>
> Having to wait almost 4 minutes is a real pain. So, here my
> comments/questions:
>
> - Isn't it possible to delay the fontification/ispell/etc. to when we really
>   display (i.e., pop up) the buffer?  I guess this must be a major component
>   of the time this takes.
>
> - Couldn't we have 2 vars: =org-agenda-files= for the files you know you want
>   have scanned for the agenda construction, and an extra list such as
>   =org-search-files= for files not containing any dates?  Then, some time
>   would have to be taken when =C-c a s=, but not before. And not if you don't
>   search for anything in your Org files during that Emacs session...
>
> Any other idea?

I use the jit-lock package that comes with emacs. "Stealth fontifying"

It makes font-lock only happen after the buffer is loaded and when you
are not doing anything else. You can access the variables through
customize-group RET jit-lock. It may be helpful here.

Shelagh
>
> Best regards,
>   Seb



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[Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

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On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:34:00 -0400, Richard Moreland wrote:

> Erik, thanks for the reminder about folding.  I had it in my script and
> must've lost it in one of the edits.  I do prefer making these on the
> Mac.  It makes piecing them together much easier.  Recordmydesktop on
> Linux will do single takes fine, but stitching it together in the end
> may be a chore.  Maybe you guys are good enough to do it all in one take
> though :)
> 
> John, you raise good points about what we can expect of the viewer.  I'm
> open to suggestions, in fact maybe a 'Just enough Emacs for Org-mode'
> intro could help newcomers to Emacs who are here just for Org-mode (like
> I was a year ago).  Some of these issues could also be addressed on the
> episode's webpage, which would link to relevant docs and info.
> 
> As far as some of the missing keystrokes, I was trying to find a balance
> between showing every keystroke (and risk confusing the user), or just
> show only the keys with modifiers (my 2 options in the tool,
> unfortunately).
> 
> I've updated the screencast (same URL) to contain a small bit about
> folding.
> 
> Thanks for the comments, I hope we can refine this and make a plan for
> more as well.
> 
> -Richard

A tool I looked at a few months ago might be useful here.
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ScreencastMode 
I downloaded it but haven't played with it yet. Its main purpose is to 
make the inner working of whats happening in emacs more obvious to the 
viewer. 

Shelagh
> 
> On Sep 23, 2010, at 11:09 PM, John Hendy wrote:
> 
>> Wow, Richard. That was sweet. You even have a pleasing "screencaster's
>> voice."
>> 
>> My only thought was along the lines of what one should assume about
>> org-mode viewers. Familiarity with emacs? No knowledge of emacs? I only
>> got into emacs because I found org-mode, so my only thought there is
>> that I might not even have known what "meta" was... I can't recall, but
>> did you clarify meta = alt on Win/Linux and Command on Mac?
>> 
>> Stuff like that might be helpful. Obviously these won't all be done on
>> a Mac and some unfamiliar with it might wonder what the Command and
>> carat symbols are on their own keyboards?
>> 
>> As Erik said -- folding and perhaps adjusting in and out (meta +
>> left/right). Also, it seems that only the meta or control functions
>> show up as keystrokes. For example, I thought you said "M-n s" and "M-n
>> w" to narrow on the tree and then widen the view but I only ever saw
>> one part of that flash on the screen.
>> 
>> Great, great job. Loved it and think this is exactly what Org could
>> use. I have a co-worker who just got emacs and org-mode up on his
>> computer and would love to have something this simple and clear-cut.
>> 
>> 
>> Great work, again.
>> John
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Erik Iverson 
>> wrote: On 09/23/2010 07:45 PM, Richard Moreland wrote: I jumped the gun
>> a bit and decided to put together a video showing the very basics.  It
>> seems overly simple when I re-watch it, but I think it is helpful for
>> those who are unsure how to get started with the basics of Org-mode.
>> 
>> http://ncogni.to/org-screencasts/1-basics/
>> 
>> Feedback is welcome, these were the least exciting topics to cover, but
>> I wasn't sure how to really wow new users without overwhelming them.  I
>> figured that taking it step by step with short, clear episodes covering
>> special topics would be a good start.
>> 
>> 
>> Really nice, agree that the intro is the least exciting.
>> 
>> But even starting with agendas in the next one, the more interesting
>> things can be shown.
>> 
>> Great job!
>> 
>> So with the software you use, you can go and insert/delete/edit voice
>> into the presentation once it's complete, or if you want to change the
>> wording in one part, do you have to record the whole thing over again? 
>> I assume you can change it, but don't know if the Linux tool has that
>> capability.
>> 
>> 
>> -Richard
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Charles Cave wrote:
>> 
>> Richard Moreland  ncogni.to>  writes: I think it would be
>> helpful to create a series of screencasts to demonstrate Org-mode.
>> 
>> Great idea!  I would he happy to record a couple of screencasts based
>> on tutorials I have written. Currently I am preparing a tutorial on
>> date trees and capturing notes to a journal.
>> 
>> I am a Windows user and a screencast tool I use is
>> http://www.screenr.com - from Articulate. This allows screencasts up to
>> 5 minutes to be recorded then hosted on their website.
>> 
>> Charles
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[Orgmode] Re: bug: babel-* dirs

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On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:00:29 +0200, Achim Gratz wrote:

> Samuel Wales  writes:
>> In the last 24 hours, org created 436 seemingly empty directories named
>> similar to "babel-81922AX" in (I think) $TMP.  I do not actively use
>> babel.
> 
> I can confirm this behaviour.
> 
> Achim.

I have some babel-XX folders, not many, but yesterday I had to close 
emacs by individually killing each buffer rather than C-x C-c as emacs 
complained about not being able to find one of the folders it expected. I 
do not use babel and do not have any settings for it.

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[Orgmode] Re: [PARTIALLY SOLVED] gnash crunch... latex whitespace defaults! + numbering in only some subheadings

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On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:12:58 -0400, Matt Price wrote:

> Thanks everyone for their suggestions.  I have settled for now on this:

Might also be worth looking at the savetrees package which is in texlive-
extras.

Shelagh
> 
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage[letterpaper]{geometry} #+LATEX_HEADER:
> \geometry{verbose,tmargin=2.5cm,bmargin=2.5cm,lmargin=2cm,rmargin=2cm}%
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{paralist} #+LATEX_HEADER:
> \let\itemize\compactitem #+LATEX_HEADER: \let\description\compactdesc
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \let\enumerate\compactenum #+LATEX_HEADER:
> \usepackage[small,compact,calcwidth]{titlesec} #+LATEX_HEADER:
> \titlespacing{\section}{0pt}{*1}{*0.2} #+LATEX_HEADER:
> \titlespacing{\subsection}{5}{*0}{*0} #+LATEX_HEADER:
> \titlespacing{\subsubsection}{10pt}{*0}{*0} #+LATEX_HEADER:
> \usepackage{enumitem}
> 
> which does a pretty good job of compressing the whitespace overall.  I'd
> still love to do more finetuning of the formatting but I think that's a
> more complex project.  Unfortunately this seems to have broken mk4ht for
> me! which is a real drag as it's the only way I can reliably produce odt
> documents, which I need much ofthe time.
> 
> Does anyone know whether numbering can be turned on just in some
> subheadings?  That would help me quite a bit...
> 
> thanks thanks thanks for al lthe assistance, matt
> Thanks everyone for heir suggestions.  I have settled for now on this: 
>  #+LATEX_HEADER:
> \usepackage[letterpaper]{geometry}#+LATEX_HEADER:
> \geometry{verbose,tmargin=2.5cm,bmargin=2.5cm,lmargin=2cm,rmargin=2cm}%

> #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{paralist}#+LATEX_HEADER:
> \let\itemize\compactitem#+LATEX_HEADER:
> \let\description\compactdesc#+LATEX_HEADER:
> \let\enumerate\compactenum#+LATEX_HEADER:
> \usepackage[small,compact,calcwidth]{titlesec} #+LATEX_HEADER:
> \titlespacing{\section}{0pt}{*1}{*0.2}#+LATEX_HEADER:
> \titlespacing{\subsection}{5}{*0}{*0}#+LATEX_HEADER:
> \titlespacing{\subsubsection}{10pt}{*0}{*0}#+LATEX_HEADER:
> \usepackage{enumitem} which does a pretty good job of
> compressing the whitespace overall.  I'd still love to do more
> finetuning of the formatting but I think that's a more complex
> project.  Unfortunately this seems to have broken mk4ht for me! which is
> a real drag as it's the only way I can reliably produce odt
> documents, which I need much ofthe time.   Does anyone know
> whether numbering can be turned on just in some subheadings?  That would
> help me quite a bit...  thanks thanks thanks for al lthe
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[Orgmode] Re: macros: escaping "," and comments

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On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 00:02:09 +0200, Stefan Vollmar wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> we are currently changing our institute's web site so that staff members
> can have a personal page: they can submit Org-mode files which are then
> automatically converted to (rather nice) HTML pages. One advantage is
> that this allows us to give staff members a lot of freedom to create
> content while keeping a "corporate identity" look (and getting the
> director's permission in the first place).
> 
> Our template needs a macro in the org template to create a more "fancy"
> summary of personal information with a table, a portrait and some icons
> (aside: please note that you can create really complex HTML code this
> way if necessary).
> 
> Here is a very simple example:
>  
> #+title: test
> #+macro: mhead #+html:  email: $1 phone:
> $2
> 
> {{{mhead(
> someb...@somewhere.org,
> 1-234-2134
> )}}}
> 
> Imagine more lines (job description, fax, homepage, etc) and a more
> complex table (hidden in a setup file). Having users provide information
> in this way is not ideal, but has worked surprisingly well (the rest of
> the template is "proper" Org-mode content).
> 
> When creating the Org templates we ran into these problems with Org-mode
> 7.01 and Emacs 23.2.1:
> 
> (1) How can we escape "," in the macro call? Ideally, we would need
> something like this:
> 
> {{{mhead(
> one entry\, still the same entry,
> the second variable...
> 
> (2) It would be nice to use something like this:
> 
> {{{mhead(
> # Email
> someb...@somewhere.org,
> # Phone
> 1-234-2134
> )}}}
> 

What would be really nifty would be to turn this kind of thing into 
microformats. 

http://microformats.org/

How hard would that be?




> However, the "#" lines are currently not ignored (as comments) when
> expanding the macro, these kind of comment lines would be helpful when
> providing templates in general.
> 
> (3) if, in the above example, we delete the #+title line before the
> macro definition, that macro stops working (the macro definition is not
> interpreted as such). It seems there must be at least one line with
> arbitraty contents before the macro definition (bug?).
> 
> I think, that (1) (maybe it is already possible - apologies if I
> overlooked something) and (2) would be useful features in Org-mode.
> 
> Many thanks in advance for any help with this.
> 
> Warm regards,
>  Stefan


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[Orgmode] Re: .ods opens file in Emacs, not OpenOffice

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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:54:00 -0700, C64 Whiz wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I've searched for an answer but can't find a simple one.  I have an
> OpenOffice document (.ods) I'd like to link to in my .org files.  So I
> have the following syntax:
> 
>   [[file:c:/mydata/myfile.ods][File Description]]
> 
> When I click on the link in OrgMode, Emacs opens the file and not
> OpenOffice.  Yet, when I'm in file explorer (yes, Windows), double
> clicking the file does open up Open Office.  So I know the association
> is there.
> 
> I know there is a variable called 'org-file-apps, but I thought the file
> system was supposed to handle any extension not known my OrgMode?  If I
> do need 'org-file-apps, please provide an example where I may *add* to
> the list rather then re-defining the existing list.  I'd hate to re-do
> "associations" OrgMode already made.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --C64Whiz
There are possible a couple of ways of dealing with this. 

One that I have used in the past is to make a new link type and use that 
for opening your .odt files

#+LINK: ooo shell:oowriter

and then use [[ooo:"/path/to/ooo-file" &][name of file]] 



I have no doubt that there are other ways of doing this.

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[Orgmode] Re: org-mobile produces errors in normal org functions

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 20:45:29 +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:

> On Jul 13, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Sven Bretfeld wrote:
> 
>> Hi Carsten
>>
>> Carsten Dominik  writes:
>>
>>> does it help to remove ~/.emacs.d/.org-id-locations ?
>>
>> Yes, that did it. Thank you very much, you made me happy. I have
>> already
>> tried to remove .emacs.d before, but with a running Emacs, what didn't
>> work. I didn't know that .emacs.d contains any dot-files at all.
> 
> That may be my mistake - maybe it would be better to make this a non-
> dot file.
> This used to be a dot file in HOME, then I moved it into .emacs.d, but
> kept
> it a dot file.
> 
> Does anyone here know if there are rules for .emacs.d ???
> 
> Greetings
> 
> - Carsten
> 
Not a rule, but a convention, that what is a dot-file in $HOME is just a 
normal file in .emacs.d. Because of course the idea is just to hide the 
file, but it is already hidden inside a hidden directory.

Cheers
Shelagh
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[Orgmode] Re: insert a remember template at point

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On Sun, 30 May 2010 00:04:08 +0200, Eraldo Helal wrote:

> How can I insert a remember template at point?
> 
> Until now I had identical remember templates and yasnippets. This is
> only a workaround and I would prefer to be able to insert a remember
> template at point since I have found it to have features I could not
> reproduce.
> 
> Greetings from Austria,
> Eraldo
> 

Actually now ai read your post again more carefully, I think my last post 
is not really what you are after.

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[Orgmode] Re: language independent personal word list

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On Sat, 29 May 2010 22:22:23 +0200, Eraldo Helal wrote:

> Problem:
>   I would like to have a language independant personal word list for use
>   with flyspell.
> 
> Reason:
>   So that emacs knows that my name is not an error (by way of example).
> 
> Solution:
>   ?
> 
> I have tried to set "ispell-personal-dictionary", however since it uses
> aspell the file needs to have such a format: ".aspell.lang.pws" where
> "lang" is the language it is bound to. I tried to leave out the "lang"
> and use a wildcard "*" but neither worked.
> 
> Help would be appreciated =]
> 
> Greetings from Austria,
> Eraldo
> 

I don't know if it will help or not. You might like to explore speck.el 
which is another spell-check library which allows for buffer local or 
mode local dictionaries. It might be more flexible.

Cheers
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[Orgmode] Re: insert a remember template at point

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On Sun, 30 May 2010 00:04:08 +0200, Eraldo Helal wrote:

> How can I insert a remember template at point?
> 
> Until now I had identical remember templates and yasnippets. This is
> only a workaround and I would prefer to be able to insert a remember
> template at point since I have found it to have features I could not
> reproduce.

I had this problem about a year ago. The trick is to insert a function 
that returns the strings you need.

For example this is the function I used.

(defun org-csa () ;this strange function only *returns* the desired 
;text, not inserts to the buffer.
"   :PROPERTIES:
   :ORDERED: t
:END:
*** TODO   [[ooo:\"CSA Template.ott\" &][fill out template form]]
*** TODO   [[shell:claws-mail p...@example.com.au &][submit for approval/ 
fixes]]
*** TODO   save to text
*** TODO   [[shell:claws-mail d...@example.com][send it to Darren]]")

Then you make your remember template call this function.
Like this:

("CSA" ?C "* TODO %^{topic}  [/]  %^g\n %t\n %(org-csa) \n %&" "~/.org/
CSA.org" bottom)

Cheers

Shelagh

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> Eraldo
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[Orgmode] Re: [Babel] Macro for begin_src?

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On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:44:24 +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 01:01:56 + (UTC), Shelagh Manton
>  wrote:
>> 
>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 08:38:01 -0500, Nathan Neff wrote:
>> 
>> You could play around with artist-mode if you use X. It uses the mouse
>> with ascii symbols to create rectangles, lines etc. Then just change
>> the text how you need. There are some helpful functions on emacswiki
>> that show you how to set up ido with artist. Don't have the url handy
>> though.
>> 
>> Sadly, it seems you can't get artist-mode to work in a tty, though I
>> believe you can in an xterm.
> 
> Shelagh,
> 
> artist-mode has a full set of key bindings.  I never use the mouse (for
> anything at all, if I can help it, due to RSI issues) and artist-mode is
> perfectly usable nonetheless!  Type "C-h m" in artist-mode to see all
> the key bindings.

I am aware of the keybindings, though I tend to use the mouse myself, but 
I have never been able to get artist-mode running properly in tty. If you 
have, I would be interested to know if you had to tweak anything to get 
it to work or whether it is the usual "my set-up is screwy and I don't 
know why" syndrome.

Shelagh
> 
> HTH,
> eric
> 
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[Orgmode] Re: [Babel] Macro for begin_src?

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On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 08:38:01 -0500, Nathan Neff wrote:

You could play around with artist-mode if you use X. It uses the mouse 
with ascii symbols to create rectangles, lines etc. Then just change the  
text how you need. There are some helpful functions on emacswiki that 
show you how to set up ido with artist. Don't have the url handy though.

Sadly, it seems you can't get artist-mode to work in a tty, though I 
believe you can in an xterm.

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[Orgmode] pages properties in agenda

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I have been using the org-learning module in some study and while it is 
quite useful as it is, I was thinking that I might improve my use by a 
special agenda command that could pull out and display a property.

Use case:

I use the org-learning to re-read sections of a book I am studying. And 
so I have a :PAGES: property with the page numbers of the section I am to 
read. Specially if I bomb out on remembering what I am supposed to know! 

I was wondering if I could create a custom agenda command that would 
display the page numbers from that property so that I can just open the 
book up at the relevant pages for immediate study instead of going to the 
relevant todo, opening up the drawer and seeing what the page numbers are?

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[Orgmode] Re: interacting with word processors (opeonffice, word)

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On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:10:51 +, Eric S Fraga wrote:

> At Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:43:31 -0500,
> Matt Price wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> get documentsl ooking about how I want them to -- the default output of
>> the latex export has way too much whitespace for my tastes -- but I
>> guess I hsould be able to figure those issues out somehow.  thanks
>> again!
>> matt
>> 
>> 
> If it's the margins giving you too much white space (a common complaint
> from people moving to latex from other types of word or document
> procssors), you could try something along these lines:
> 
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> #+latex_header: \usepackage[letterpaper]{geometry} #+latex-header:
> \geometry{verbose,tmargin=3cm,bmargin=3cm,lmargin=3cm,rmargin=3cm}
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> 
> untested.  change "letterpaper" to your actual paper size, of course.
> 
> HTH,
> eric
> 
Also the fullpage.sty package will do this for you too. Of course you 
need to name the size of your paper in the documentclass.

\usepackage[options](fullpage)

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[Orgmode] Re: interacting with word processors (opeonffice, word)

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On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:40:49 +0200, Rainer M Krug wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Matt Price 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I;m getting more and more used to using org for my own writing
>> purposes, and love it.  But I still find it pretty difficult to work
>> with word-processor users whoexpect to get a doument in .doc or .odt
>> formats. I've just found odt2org
>> (http://mantiel.wikidot.com/os:odt2org) which looks great for importing
>> odt files into org; but my main concern right now is getting things
>> from org-mode out into odt or doc.  May i ask what other people tend to
>> do in this situation?  I I guess I could export to html, then import in
>> Openoffice, then edit & save as odf, but this seems a little
>> cumbersome.  If someone has a better solution I'd love to hear it.
>>
>>
> Oh - and ther is also:
> 
> mk4ht oolatex
> 
> which converts LaTeX to odt.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rainer
> 
Wouldn't the org-docbook package be suitable as there are docbook to odt 
transformers (which makes sense as odt is a type of xml like docbook) 

http://open.comsultia.com/docbook2odf/ might be helpful.

Shelagh
> 
>> Thanks much,
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> --
>> Matt Price
>> matt.pr...@utoronto.ca
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[Orgmode] Re: contact management in org-mode?

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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:48:16 +0100, Uwe Jochum wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> has someone tried "forms" for the purpose of contact management? See:
> 
> http://sunsite.ualberta.ca/Documentation/Gnu/emacs-21.1/html_chapter/
forms_frame.html
> 
> Best,
> 
> Uwe

I have used forms for a couple of primitive addresses databases I have 
which is based on the /etc/password file. I thought I'd say that, yes I 
have and do use forms for addresses and it does work nicely. 

But of course it does not hook into any other emacs functionality. Just 
use them to quickly look up addresses and phone numbers. 

Shelagh
> 
> Alan E. Davis schrieb am 29.10.2009 21:00:
>> I'll mention EDB, emacs data base, here, even though I haven't used it
>> for several years.
>> 
>> http://gnuvola.org/software/edb/
>> 
>> It's available on many GNU/Linux distros, as a package.  It is for
>> Gentoo, and perhaps for Debian/Ubuntu as well.
>> 
>> It is extensible/programmable, so that various interfaces could perhaps
>> be possible.  I spent a little time years ago setting up an Addresses
>> database, with output formats to automatically set up a LaTeX header
>> for each marked address.  It was a bit klunky, to be sure, but it
>> worked REALLY well, and it worked the way I wanted it to.
>> 
>> It's an old piece of software.  I tried it lately with my address DB,
>> with Emacs 23, so it may just still work fine.
>> 
>> In the examples directory, above, are a rolodex database, possibly
>> somewhat similar to what I had going, and some other examples.   There
>> has been some relatively recent effort into maintaining EDB.
>> 
>> I write this not as a programmer, but a user, just to point to
>> something that has worked well for me in the past.
>> 
>> Alan Davis
>> 
>> 
>> 

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[Orgmode] Re: Orgmodeorg-export-generic gives an error

[Shelagh Manton]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:13:53 -0700, Wes Hardaker wrote:

>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:59:12 +0200, Bastien
>>  said:
> 
> B> Those two functions come from alist.el which is included in Apel:
> 
> So does that mean it's safe to leave the functions in use within
> org-export generic, or should I replace it with a locally defined
> slightly-different-named version?

Perhaps just putting (require 'alist) in your file will be enough. If 
people do not have that library emacs will warn them. Also maybe mention 
it in the documentation at the top of the file that apel package is 
needed.

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[Orgmode] Re: Orgmodeorg-export-generic gives an error

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On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:39:06 -0700, Wes Hardaker wrote:

>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:19:19 + (UTC), srinivas
>>  said:
> 
> s> Nick Dokos suggested the following fix to .emacs:
> 
> s> (if (< emacs-major-version 23)
> s> (defun characterp (obj)
> s> (and (char-or-string-p obj) (not (stringp obj)
> 
> s> Inserting this check makes org-export-generic work for me. My Emacs
> s> version on Windows is 22.3.1.
> 
> (I was on vacation for a week and didn't see this problem).
> 
> I wrote export-generic under xemacs and didn't notice that there was a
> function compatibility issue.
> 
> This patch to it should fix things:
> 
> diff --git a/lisp/org-export-generic.el b/lisp/org-export-generic.el
> index 64dcb1f..c9fc161 100644
> --- a/lisp/org-export-generic.el
> +++ b/lisp/org-export-generic.el
> @@ -1029,7 +1029,7 @@ REVERSE means to reverse the list if the plist
> match is a list
>  subtype)
>  (cond
>   ((null prefixtype) "")
> - ((and len (characterp prefixtype)) + ((and len
> (char-or-string-p prefixtype) (not (stringp prefixtype )))
>;; sequence of chars
>(concat (make-string len prefixtype) "\n"))
>   ((stringp prefixtype)

Someone mentioned in a previous post about a function you use to create a 
new org-generic-alist called set-alist which is not known in gnu emacs.

(defun org-set-generic-type (type definition)
  "Adds a TYPE and DEFINITION to the existing list of defined generic
export definitions."
  (set-alist 'org-generic-alist type definition))

 I went searching for the function. I found the library which seems to be 
part of the xemacs bundle. What could we use for people who use gnu 
emacs? Is there a function in emacs that would be a good substitute?

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[Orgmode] Re: using %(sexp) in remember templates

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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:01:57 -0400, Nick Dokos wrote:

> Shelagh Manton  wrote:
> 
>> I'm trying to make a remember template that inserts some text
>> automatically.
>> 
>> I read in the manual that %(sexp) would expand in the template. This
>> would be what I want, if I've understood the manual aright.
>> 
>> I made a small function that inserts text (org-csa) and this is the
>> template I originally tried.
>> ("CSA" ?C "* TODO %^{topic} %^g\n %t\n %(org-csa) %&" "CSA.org" bottom)
>> 
> The function should not insert anything into any buffer: it should
> *return* what you want to be inserted. For example, the following
> minimal .emacs works just fine (after fixing the path appropriately):
> 
> ,
> | (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/path/to/org-mode/lisp")) |
> (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.\\(org\\|org_archive\\|txt\\)$" .
> org-mode)) | (require 'org-install)
> | (global-set-key "\C-cl" 'org-store-link) | (global-set-key "\C-ca"
> 'org-agenda) |
> | 
> | (setq org-remember-templates '(("CSA" ?C "* TODO %^{topic} %^g\n %t\n
> %(org-csa) %&" "CSA.org" bottom))) | (defun org-csa ()
> | "foobar")
> | (org-remember-insinuate)
> |
> | ;
> `
> 
> HTH,
> Nick
> 
> 
So my problem is that my function org-csa is inserting text? I will try 
this out.

Ah thanks that works nicely. A conceptual dissonance between returning 
values and inserting text.

Shelagh
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[Orgmode] using %(sexp) in remember templates

[Shelagh Manton]

I'm trying to make a remember template that inserts some text 
automatically.

I read in the manual that %(sexp) would expand in the template. This 
would be what I want, if I've understood the manual aright. 

I made a small function that inserts text (org-csa) and this is the 
template I originally tried.
("CSA" ?C "* TODO %^{topic} %^g\n %t\n %(org-csa) %&" "CSA.org" bottom)

This put 

* TODO %^{topic} %^g
 <2009-06-15 Mon>
  %&

In the remember buffer.

I then tried 

("CSA" ?C "* TODO %^{topic} %^g\n %t\n %^(org-csa) %&" "~/.org/CSA.org" 
bottom)

Which prompted me for a string and added the (org-csa) in the remember 
buffer. (I filled in the various prompts)

* TODO charity ball :July:
 <2009-06-15 Mon>
 (org-csa) 

Have I misunderstood the manual? I thought that the sexp would be 
evaluated in the remember buffer. But neither with the ^ prompt which at 
least made the remember buffer work as expected or without where even the 
other prompts did not work at all, the (org-csa) did not get expanded.

Obviously I can evaluated it in the CSA.org buffer but that is not what I 
want at all. Maybe I should use org-eval? 

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[Orgmode] Re: GOAL keyword with DEADLINE semantics?

[Shelagh Manton]

On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:36:57 -0400, Austin Frank wrote:

> Hi all!
> 
> Currently we can use the DEADLINE keyword to indicate a target date for
> an item to be finished.  By my way of thinking, deadlines make sense for
> externally imposed constraints.  I also try to set goals for myself for
> when an item will be completed.  These are softer than deadlines, but I
> think they could share the same semantics for creation, display, and
> export.
> 
> Would it be possible to make `org-deadline-string' a list of strings
> that get handled in the same way as DEADLINE is currently handled?  That
> way I could do things like
> 
> * TODO write first chapter
>   GOAL:  <2009-03-09 Mon>
> 
> * TODO submit manuscript
>   GOAL:  <2009-05-15 Fri>
>   DEADLINE:  <2009-06-01 Mon>
> 
> Where the first represents my own planning process and the second
> contains my target completion date (trying to work ahead!) and the hard
> constraint imposed by whoever I'm submitting to.  In all cases, I'd like
> agenda notification as the date approaches, I'd like to know if I've
> passed it by, and I'd like the option of including it in ical export.
> 
> Or maybe I should just learn to treat my GOALs like DEADLINEs and stop
> letting myself off the hook so easily ;)
> 
> Do other people think about things this way?  Would you have a use for a
> customizable list of keywords that all had the same semantics that
> DEADLINE currently has?
> 
> Thanks for considering it,
> /au

I think this sounds like something I've wished for since I first found 
out about org-mode. Thank you for analysing it so succinctly.

I would use this if it could be done.


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[Orgmode] Re: Keeping Your Appointments in org

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On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:47:37 -0200, Daniel Martins wrote:

> I have the same migration problem.
> 
> I still use Google Calendar to share appts with my students. Sometimes
> they mark an appt on certain dates etc...
> 
> My migration problem is threefold since I migrated from planner-el too
> and I use remind a lot. I like wyrd for remote operation and I had
> remind - diary - ical and planner-el very integrated.
> 
> I posted an email about this topíc a couple of weeks ago.
> 
> I sincerely think that org-mode would be improved from using remind. At
> least until org-mode have all the calendar niceties that remind provides
> for quite complex periodic dates and "strange" holidays and non working
> days. Remind is quite a powerful calendar parser.
> 
> 
> Wyrd (a remind interface) is a clean interface to see appts and schedule
> even remotely.
> 
> Org-mode however exceeds remind, wyrd and planner-el as tool for
> organization as a whole.
> 
> 
> An interesting aspect is that we can use the "remind path" to automate
> some of the conversion from ical (eg Google Calendar) to org-mode.
> 
> The ical -> org-mode could be done using the longer path
> 
> ical -> remind -> diary -> org-mode
> 
> Via
> 
> ical -> remind:  http://wiki.43folders.com/index.php/*ICal2Rem*
> 
> remind -> diary:   Sacha's rem2diary
> 
> diary -> org-mode:  (setq org-agenda-include-diary t)
> 
> 
> the reverse path could be directly
> 
> org-mode -> ical
> 
> .reminders.org.deadline
> .reminders.org.scheduled
> 
> However  to add all my appts in
> .reminders.org.deadline and
>  .reminders.org.scheduled
>   from inside org-mode
> 
> I think that
> 
> org2rem
> from Bastien
> 
> is lacking a few features such as timed reminders and generates a non
> completely compatible .reminders files
> 
> I have made some corrections and org2rem is working better now but it is
> still lacking to add appts with timestamps (ie with no SCHEDULED: or
> DEADLINE: tags)
> 
> If someone is also interested I cand send my version of org2rem

I am interested in your version of org2rem. I use remind quite regularly 
in conjunction with org-mode and tried a few months ago to work out how 
to improve org2rem myself, either stripping the org-mode priority cookies 
or changing them to something remind could use, but my lisp skills are 
too feeble to work out how to do it.

Shelagh 
> 
> I hope this helps,
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 2009/1/8 Ian Barton 
> 
>> As it's the start of a new year, I want to move my appointments from
>> Google Calendar as the primary source to org. When my system in org is
>> running smoothly I will export to Google Calendar on a regular basis.
>>
>> Searching back through the list there are quite a lot of snippets
>> describing how people use org to keep appointments, but no overview. I
>> would like to write a tutorial on how you can keep your appointments in
>> org, so I thought that I would ask list members if they would post some
>> details of their system.
>>
>> I am intending to keep my appointments in a dedicated org file (
>> calendar.org). At the moment I am using a remember template which adds
>> them with a tag of APPT. I the use a custom agenda view if I only want
>> to see appointments.
>>
>> I am particularly interested in the best way to deal with repeating
>> appointments. For example how do you deal with a weekly appointment
>> that has a defined start and end date.
>>
>> Ian.
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> I have the same migration problem.I still use Google Calendar to
> share appts with my students. Sometimes they mark an appt on certain
> dates etc...My migration problem is threefold since I migrated
> from planner-el too and  I use remind a lot. I like wyrd for remote
> operation and I had remind - diary - ical and planner-el very
> integrated.
> 
> I posted an email about this topíc a couple of weeks ago. I
> sincerely think that org-mode would be improved from using remind. At
> least until org-mode have all the calendar niceties that remind provides
> for quite complex periodic dates and "strange" holidays and
> non working days. Remind is quite a powerful calendar parser.
> Wyrd (a remind interface) is a clean interface to see appts and
> schedule even remotely.Org-mode however exceeds remind, wyrd and
> planner-el as tool for organization as a whole.An
> interesting aspect is that we can use the "remind path" to
> automate some of the conversion from ical (eg Google Calendar) to
> org-mode. The ical -> org-mode could be done using the longer
> pathical -> remind -> diary ->
> org-modeViaical -> remind:   href="http://wiki.43folders.com/index.php/";
> target="_blank">http://wiki.43folders.com/index.php/ICal2Rem
> 
> remind -> diary:   Sacha's rem2diarydiary ->
> org-mode:  (setq org-agenda-include-diary
> t)     the reverse

[Orgmode] Re: org and taskjuggler

[Shelagh Manton]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:37:07 +0100, Christian Egli wrote:

> Shelagh Manton  writes:
> 
>> One of the set tasks for the project scenario is to produce a Gantt
>> chart.
>>
>> Or perhaps someone knows another way to get a Gantt chart out of
>> org-mode data.
> 
> I'm using a very hackish "works-for-me" python script that converts a
> tsv export from an org-mode file to a taskjuggler file. Probably has
> lots of implizit assumptions which not even I remember.
> 
> The basic work-flow is to create your hierarchy of tasks, add some
> effort estimates and some other properties, export this to a csv and run
> the attached python script on it. This will generate a taskjuggler
> include file (tji) which can be used in a main taskjuggler file (tjp).
> 
> You could use the following Makefile snippet to automate the process:
> 
> projectPlan.csv: projectPlan.org
>   $(EMACS) -batch \
>-eval "(progn (find-file \"$<\") (re-search-forward \"^| 
Task\")
>(org-table-export \"$...@\"))" -kill
> 
> projectPlan.tji: projectPlan.csv
>   $(CSV2TASKJUGGLER) < $< > $@
> 
> projectPlan.taskreport.html: projectPlan.tjp projectPlan.tji
>   $(TASKJUGGLER) $<
> 
> Attached is the python script, an example org file and an example for a
> tjp file. Let me know if this works for you.
> 
> I meant to write a tutorial about this but you know how it is. Maybe you
> could write one as you get this to work :-)
> 
> Hope this helps
> Christian

Oh very interesting. I know it will take me a while but I will look at 
this closely to understand what is happening. 

Another think I'm slowly working through is to understand etask which 
uses LaTeX and pstricks to make a Gantt chart. 

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[Orgmode] org and taskjuggler

[Shelagh Manton]

I am enrolled in a course that teaches methods of project administration 
and I'm using org for my personal notes. One of the set tasks for the 
project scenario is to produce a Gantt chart.

It can be simply a spreadsheet or something from a program like planner 
or msproject. I vaguely remember a thread a fair while ago about a 
exporter to taskjuggler format and I was wondering if that had gone any 
further than thought? Or perhaps someone knows another way to get a Gantt 
chart out of org-mode data.

Any suggestions that don't require too much scripting would be 
appreciated. I'm just trying to get out of reentering all the work I've 
done in org into planner or ooo-calc.

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[Orgmode] Re: Org mode release 6.04

[Shelagh Manton]

On Sun, 25 May 2008 08:41:54 -0400
Austin Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, May 25 2008, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> 
> > Editing source code example in the proper mode
> > --
> >
> > If you are writing a document with source code examples, you can
> > include these examples into a `#+BEGIN_SRC lang ... #+END_SRC' or
> > (with the org-mtags module loaded) a ` > stands for the Emacs mode used for editing the language, this could
> > be `emacs-lisp' for Emacs Lisp mode examples, or `org' for Org mode
> > examples.  You can now use the key "C-c '" (that is C-c followed by
> > the single quote) to edit the example in its native mode.  This
> > works by creating an indirect buffer, narrowing it to the example
> > and setting the appropriate mode.  You need to exit editing by
> > killing that indirect buffer, with `C-x k'.  This is important,
> > because lines that have syntactic meaning in Org will be quoted
> > when the indirect buffer is killed.
> 
> Carsten--
> 
> This is a phenomenally exciting addition.  Combining this with the
> htmlized code examples in html export, and the option for \LaTeX
> export, org has clearly just vaulted past the rest of the field for
> literate programming.  Expect a tutorial from me in the next few
> weeks about using org with RWeave (the R variant of SWeave).  This
> will be a fantastic way to write articles that include statistical
> analyses and figures.
> 
> That said, don't be surprised if by opening this door you end up with
> some new feature requests from me :)  One addition that I can already
> see being interested in is the evaluation of embedded code before
> export, so that the results of the code are included along with the
> source.  Obviously, there are security issues here that will need to
> be thought about, but I'd like to see if we could make this work.
> 
> Greedy feature requests aside, this is very, very cool.
> 
> > I guess it would be nice to exit with `C-c C-c', but who knows what
> > this key is supposed to do in a random mode.
> 
> I can tell you now that C-c C-c is almost as overloaded in R-mode
> (from the package ESS) as it is in org-mode, and I will want it to
> have its R-mode interpretation while I edit R code.  While I'm
> writing, I'll try to keep an eye out for sensible ways of jumping out
> of coding mode and back to org-mode.
> 
> Thanks for this release!
> /au
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[Orgmode] Re: can't get org-mode/remember integration working right

[Shelagh Manton]

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:44:37 -0700
"Daniel Goldin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm afraid so. I have the following in my defaul init file.
> 
> (setq org-remember-templates
>   '(("Todo" ?t "* TODO %?\n  %i\n  %a" "~/orgfiles/NotesTodo.org"
> "Tasks")
> ("Journal" ?j "* %U %?\n\n  %i\n  %a"
> "~/orgfiles/NotesJournal.org") ("Idea" ?i "* %^{Title}\n  %i\n  %a"
> "~/orgfiles/NotesIdeas.org" "New Ideas")))
> 

Ah well, I leave it in the hands of folk more knowledgeable than me.

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[Orgmode] Re: can't get org-mode/remember integration working right

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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:59:22 -0700
"Daniel Goldin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes, I've tried org-remember: same results.
> 
> d.

I wonder if you have templates set up?

Something like the following?

(setq org-remember-templates
   '((?t "** TODO %?\n  %u" "~/.org/planner.org" "Tasks")
 (?j "* %u %?" "~/.org/notes.org" "Notes")
 (?f "** TODO %?\n %u" "~/.org/planner.org" "Financial")
 (?c "** TODO %?\n %u" "~/.org/planner.org" "Computer")
 (?h "** TODO %?\n %u" "~/.org/planner.org" "Household")
 (?b "** TODO %?\n %u" "~/.org/planner.org" "Bowen")
 (?o "*** TODO %?\n %u" "~/.org/planner.org" "Job")))

Shelagh
> 
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Bernt Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > "Daniel Goldin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > I'm running org 5.23a, on emacs 22.0.90.1 -- Ubuntu 7.04
> > >
> > > Here is the relevant code I use to enable org/remember
> > > integration.
> > >
> > > (setq org-directory "~/orgfiles/")
> > >
> > > (setq org-default-notes-file "~/.notes")
> > > (setq remember-annotation-functions '(org-remember-annotation))
> > > (setq remember-handler-functions '(org-remember-handler))
> > > (add-hook 'remember-mode-hook 'org-remember-apply-template)
> > >
> > > (setq org-remember-store-without-prompt t)
> > >
> > > When I run M-x remember, I get an org buffer that looks right and
> > > lets me add notes.  But when I run c-c C-c, I get a prompt asking
> > > me where to save file, instead of just going
> > >
> > > to me org-default file. If I put into the prompt "~/notes," the
> > > file saves but when I run remember again, the same prompt comes
> > > up in the mini-buffer asking where I want to save the file, and
> > > If plug in "/notes," I
> > >
> > > I am forced to overwright what I previously saved in that file.
> > >
> > > Any help gratefully appreciated.
> >
> > Try M-x org-remember instead of M-x remember
> >
> > -Bernt
> >
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[Orgmode] Inserting columns

[Shelagh Manton]

I wrote an email a while ago but I guess it must have got lost in the
system. 

I have been trying to insert columns on org-tables with M-S -> as it
says can be done on the refcard.
It does not work. I wondered if it was because there was a trick to it.
You know, putting point on a line or something. I've investigated a bit
further, with the aide of my trusty emacs manual and did a C-h w on
"org-table-insert-column" command and it says 
org-table-insert-column is not on any key. I wonder if the org-card is
out of date? Or is it meant to be on M-S -> and this just got left out
somehow. 
I don't mind putting a keybinding command myself, but if it is
intentional that this command is not bound, perhaps the refcard needs to
be updated.
I'm using emacs-snapshot packaged by ubuntu on feisty with org-mode
4.75. 

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[Orgmode] Formatting text in webpages from org-mode

[Shelagh Manton]

I wanted to use org-mode and blorg.el to make some web pages on my local
intranet. Some of the text is poetry and I am having some difficulty in
working out how to keep it in the form I want. I'm not sure if this is
the right place to ask this.

I am familiar with LaTeX and have used the memoir class a few times. I
know that org-mode can use latex packages in fragments, but could I use
memoir in the same way to help me to format my poems or can I use some
other method such as poem. Is there a proper org-mode way of
doing this? Would putting  at the end of every line do the job, or
could I (hopefully with guidance form some kind person) make a macor to
do this for me.

Shelagh

ps. I think I've actually got more writing and stuff done (even off the
computer) since I found org-mode a few weeks ago than I have for a long
time.
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