Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-28 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Isn't the point that you don't have to support those (e.g. markddown). The current documentation is pretty specific about not having expectations about KEYWORDS and DESCRIPTION working. It would be the same for SUBTITLE. OK, then SUBTITLE is expected to be out

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-28 Thread Melanie Bacou
See inline. On 3/26/2015 6:42 AM, Rasmus wrote: Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: div class=page-header h1This would be the title smalland this the subtitle/small/h1 /div ref: http://getbootstrap.com/components/#page-header According to html5doctor.com: Note: Some have been advocating

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-26 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Melanie Bacou m...@mbacou.com writes: I would indeed go further and suggest adding the following once and for all as common ox features: I don't think so. Consider the ultra important ox-ical (it's important 'cause it keep my calendar in sync via org-caldav). How should it handle these

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-26 Thread Rasmus
Melanie Bacou m...@mbacou.com writes: Here is how titles and subtitles are supported in Bootstrap (the most popular HTML/CSS/JS framework): div class=page-header h1This would be the title smalland this the subtitle/small/h1 /div ref: http://getbootstrap.com/components/#page-header I

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-26 Thread Rasmus
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: div class=page-header h1This would be the title smalland this the subtitle/small/h1 /div ref: http://getbootstrap.com/components/#page-header According to html5doctor.com: Note: Some have been advocating of the use of the small element to signify

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-25 Thread Melanie Bacou
I would indeed go further and suggest adding the following once and for all as common ox features: #+TITLE #+SUBTITLE #+DATE #+AUTHORS (support multiple) #+EMAILS (1 per author) #+AFFILIATIONS (1 per author) #+CLASSIFICATION (e.g. ACM, JEL, Dublin Core, your corporate classification, etc.)

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-25 Thread Melanie Bacou
I forgot: #+COPYRIGHT On 3/25/2015 10:36 PM, Melanie Bacou wrote: I would indeed go further and suggest adding the following once and for all as common ox features: #+TITLE #+SUBTITLE #+DATE #+AUTHORS (support multiple) #+EMAILS (1 per author) #+AFFILIATIONS (1 per author) #+CLASSIFICATION

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-25 Thread Melanie Bacou
Here is how titles and subtitles are supported in Bootstrap (the most popular HTML/CSS/JS framework): div class=page-header h1This would be the title smalland this the subtitle/small/h1 /div ref: http://getbootstrap.com/components/#page-header Another commonly seen approach is this (many

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-24 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: E.g., when creating a new export back-end, it is quite obvious that one will need to handle TITLE, DATE, AUTHOR and EMAIL somehow. Now, if you request handlers for SUBTITLE, KEYWORDS and DESCRIPTION, it becomes more tedious to achieve the task.

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: However, I think porting this feature to back-ends that do not support it out of the box is pushing too hard. In the patch there's ox-latex where e.g. KOMA-Script has as subtitle-macro. ox-html, ox-ascii, ox-odt

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-23 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Marcin Borkowski wrote: On 2015-03-22, at 16:29, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us wrote: IMO it is. The only place where there's a hack is in ox-latex and that's cause article is the default class. If you prefer, it can just output to the \subtitle{·} by default and say it's KOMA-script only. That

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-23 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-03-23, at 01:05, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us wrote: Hi, First: Please don't take me being critical as meaning I'm necessarily negative about. I'm just minimizing risk over the expectation. Of course, fine with me. It’s the criticism which can make this project better (or help decide it’s

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: This patch adds #+SUBTITLE to a couple of backends. This property is already supported in ox-texinfo and e.g. beamer.cls has a subtitles macro, but ox-beamer.el has no #+SUBTITLE. I have used subtitles in e.g. applications for research funds. The

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Hi, This patch adds #+SUBTITLE to a couple of backends. This property is already supported in ox-texinfo and e.g. beamer.cls has a subtitles macro, but ox-beamer.el has no #+SUBTITLE. I have used subtitles in e.g. applications for research funds. The

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Rasmus
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: In ox-html, You might consider wrapping the title and subtitle in an hgroup if :html5-fancy is t. Or maybe that's going too far! Either way, I like this. First result on my search engine says¹ : Update 16th

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Rasmus
Hi Nicolas, I'm a bit confused by your message. Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: However, I think porting this feature to back-ends that do not support it out of the box is pushing too hard. In the patch there's ox-latex where e.g. KOMA-Script has as subtitle-macro. ox-html,

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-03-22, at 16:29, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us wrote: IMO it is. The only place where there's a hack is in ox-latex and that's cause article is the default class. If you prefer, it can just output to the \subtitle{·} by default and say it's KOMA-script only. That seems harsh, though. Hi

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread John Williams
I, for one, find your ideas exciting, Marcin. If you're simply looking for votes in order to start work on this: +1. Thanks! Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl writes: On 2015-03-22, at 16:29, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us wrote: IMO it is. The only place where there's a hack is in

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl writes: On 2015-03-22, at 16:29, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us wrote: IMO it is. The only place where there's a hack is in ox-latex and that's cause article is the default class. If you prefer, it can just output to the \subtitle{·} by default and say it's

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Rasmus
Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl writes: [TL;DR: imho, the right way to do LaTeX export is to prepare a dedicated package for Org-mode generated files (easy/medium), arrange for it to be included in all major TeX distros (easy) and simplify the LaTeX exporter to comply with it (easy).

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Rasmus
Hi, First: Please don't take me being critical as meaning I'm necessarily negative about. I'm just minimizing risk over the expectation. Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl writes: - What happens when you cannot maintain it any longer? Note also that the Either the project dies, or

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: In ox-html, You might consider wrapping the title and subtitle in an hgroup if :html5-fancy is t. Or maybe that's going too far! Either way, I like this. First result on my search

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-03-22, at 23:43, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us wrote: Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl writes: [TL;DR: imho, the right way to do LaTeX export is to prepare a dedicated package for Org-mode generated files (easy/medium), arrange for it to be included in all major TeX distros (easy) and

[O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-20 Thread Rasmus
Hi, This patch adds #+SUBTITLE to a couple of backends. This property is already supported in ox-texinfo and e.g. beamer.cls has a subtitles macro, but ox-beamer.el has no #+SUBTITLE. I have used subtitles in e.g. applications for research funds. The value-added is twofold: - It adds a

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-20 Thread Melanie Bacou
Very nice, thanks! On 3/20/2015 10:26 PM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: On 2015-03-21, at 00:23, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us wrote: This patch adds #+SUBTITLE to a couple of backends. This property is WDTY? +1 Best, -- Melanie BACOU International Food Policy Research Institute Snr. Program

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-20 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-03-21, at 00:23, Rasmus ras...@gmx.us wrote: This patch adds #+SUBTITLE to a couple of backends. This property is WDTY? +1 Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University