Re: [O] How to represent Emacs keystrokes in Org?
Hi Marcin,
I'm going to reference a hangout of Sacha Chua and Xah Lee
where they talked about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKPKWqvTImA
( you can download it with livestreamer like so
livestreamer -o xlsc.mp4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKPKWqvTImA 360p )
At 26:53 Xah Lee starts explaining about how his
setup related to rendering keystrokes in emacs.
At 27:13 he mentions this function = xhm-htmlize-keyboard-shortcut-notation
Apparently this is used to render the keystrokes.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:48:30PM +0100, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
Hi there,
it seems that reviving old threads is my new hobby;-).
On 2014-11-29, at 22:58, Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl wrote:
On 2014-11-29, at 22:53, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
On 2014-11-24, at 19:38, Rasmus wrote:
Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl writes:
Hello,
I'm writing (in Org) a text on Emacs usage. How to
correctly/canonically represent keystrokes, like C-x RET f?
Currently, I use =C-x RET f=; are there any alternatives?
That's what I'd do. Or ~C-x RET f~. You could also use a macro, if you
want it to me be more semantic (I hope I use this word correctly).
This might seem a good idea, but how do I do it? (See below for
a concrete problem statement.)
Houston, we've got a problem. What about =M-,=? Somehow it seems not
to be interpreted in the right way: it does not get fontified correctly,
nor does export in the right way. What can I do about it? I found
about org-emphasis-regexp-components, is it the only way? Also, how do
I reload Org without restarting Emacs? (I am an Emacs geek and I try to
beat my record of emacs-uptime, you know. ;-) )
Wow, I got an idea, and it worked. Here's an excerpt from `C-u C-x ='
at my solution;-):
position: 11859 of 16051 (74%), column: 253
character: (displayed as ) (codepoint 8205, #o20015, #x200d)
preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
code point in charset: 0x200D
syntax: .which means: punctuation
to input: type C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT or C-x 8 RET NAME
buffer code: #xE2 #x80 #x8D
file code: #xE2 #x80 #x8D (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix)
display: by this font (glyph code)
xft:-unknown-Phetsarath
OT-normal-normal-normal-*-17-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1 (#x120)
Character code properties: customize what to show
name: ZERO WIDTH JOINER
A bit ugly trick, but works. What are the opinions?
After a while I have to say that my opinion is strongly negative: this
breaks LaTeX export. (LaTeX doesn’t like some unicode characters, it
turns out.) Also, this was really an ugly hack...
So, here is my problem: how to represent a key like M-, or
e.g. a sequence \, (important in regexps) as “code” or “verbatim stuff”
in org-mode? Neither =\,= nor ~\,~ work, of course. Also, I’d like
this to be backend-agnostic, so \texttt{M-,} doesn’t really work.
What is the rationale behind forbidding the comma as the “border”
character in org-emphasis-regexp-components? Should I change this
variable in my setup or is there a more general way to convince Org that
I really want verbatim/code snippets like =\,=?
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] How to represent Emacs keystrokes in Org?
Marcin Borkowski wrote:
Hi there,
it seems that reviving old threads is my new hobby;-).
On 2014-11-29, at 22:58, Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl wrote:
On 2014-11-29, at 22:53, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
On 2014-11-24, at 19:38, Rasmus wrote:
Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl writes:
Hello,
I'm writing (in Org) a text on Emacs usage. How to
correctly/canonically represent keystrokes, like C-x RET f?
Currently, I use =C-x RET f=; are there any alternatives?
That's what I'd do. Or ~C-x RET f~. You could also use a macro, if you
want it to me be more semantic (I hope I use this word correctly).
This might seem a good idea, but how do I do it? (See below for
a concrete problem statement.)
Houston, we've got a problem. What about =M-,=? Somehow it seems not
to be interpreted in the right way: it does not get fontified correctly,
nor does export in the right way. What can I do about it? I found
about org-emphasis-regexp-components, is it the only way? Also, how do
I reload Org without restarting Emacs? (I am an Emacs geek and I try to
beat my record of emacs-uptime, you know. ;-) )
Wow, I got an idea, and it worked. Here's an excerpt from `C-u C-x ='
at my solution;-):
position: 11859 of 16051 (74%), column: 253
character: (displayed as ) (codepoint 8205, #o20015, #x200d)
preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
code point in charset: 0x200D
syntax: . which means: punctuation
to input: type C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT or C-x 8 RET NAME
buffer code: #xE2 #x80 #x8D
file code: #xE2 #x80 #x8D (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix)
display: by this font (glyph code)
xft:-unknown-Phetsarath
OT-normal-normal-normal-*-17-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1 (#x120)
Character code properties: customize what to show
name: ZERO WIDTH JOINER
A bit ugly trick, but works. What are the opinions?
After a while I have to say that my opinion is strongly negative: this
breaks LaTeX export. (LaTeX doesn’t like some unicode characters, it
turns out.) Also, this was really an ugly hack...
So, here is my problem: how to represent a key like M-, or
e.g. a sequence \, (important in regexps) as “code” or “verbatim stuff”
in org-mode? Neither =\,= nor ~\,~ work, of course. Also, I’d like
this to be backend-agnostic, so \texttt{M-,} doesn’t really work.
I'm thinking at something like this (partially untested):
--8---cut here---start-8---
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{menukeys}
#+LATEX_HEADER: \let\ORIkeys\keys
#+LATEX_HEADER: \renewcommand{\keys}[1]{\ORIkeys{\texttt{#1}}}
#+LATEX_HEADER: \newcommand{\repeatedkeys}[1]{\keys{\textcolor{gray}{#1}}}
#+MACRO: kbd \keys{$1}
--8---cut here---end---8---
Of course, the macro would have to be improved to work at least (in my
case) in both HTML and LaTeX, by using the @@latex:...@@ construct.
What is the rationale behind forbidding the comma as the “border”
character in org-emphasis-regexp-components? Should I change this
variable in my setup or is there a more general way to convince Org that
I really want verbatim/code snippets like =\,=?
I share your point about a better `org-emphasis-regexp-components' by
default, which would work in 99.9% of the cases.
Best regards,
Seb
--
Sebastien Vauban
Re: [O] How to represent Emacs keystrokes in Org?
Hi there,
it seems that reviving old threads is my new hobby;-).
On 2014-11-29, at 22:58, Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl wrote:
On 2014-11-29, at 22:53, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
On 2014-11-24, at 19:38, Rasmus wrote:
Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl writes:
Hello,
I'm writing (in Org) a text on Emacs usage. How to
correctly/canonically represent keystrokes, like C-x RET f?
Currently, I use =C-x RET f=; are there any alternatives?
That's what I'd do. Or ~C-x RET f~. You could also use a macro, if you
want it to me be more semantic (I hope I use this word correctly).
This might seem a good idea, but how do I do it? (See below for
a concrete problem statement.)
Houston, we've got a problem. What about =M-,=? Somehow it seems not
to be interpreted in the right way: it does not get fontified correctly,
nor does export in the right way. What can I do about it? I found
about org-emphasis-regexp-components, is it the only way? Also, how do
I reload Org without restarting Emacs? (I am an Emacs geek and I try to
beat my record of emacs-uptime, you know. ;-) )
Wow, I got an idea, and it worked. Here's an excerpt from `C-u C-x ='
at my solution;-):
position: 11859 of 16051 (74%), column: 253
character: (displayed as ) (codepoint 8205, #o20015, #x200d)
preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
code point in charset: 0x200D
syntax: . which means: punctuation
to input: type C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT or C-x 8 RET NAME
buffer code: #xE2 #x80 #x8D
file code: #xE2 #x80 #x8D (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix)
display: by this font (glyph code)
xft:-unknown-Phetsarath OT-normal-normal-normal-*-17-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1
(#x120)
Character code properties: customize what to show
name: ZERO WIDTH JOINER
A bit ugly trick, but works. What are the opinions?
After a while I have to say that my opinion is strongly negative: this
breaks LaTeX export. (LaTeX doesn’t like some unicode characters, it
turns out.) Also, this was really an ugly hack...
So, here is my problem: how to represent a key like M-, or
e.g. a sequence \, (important in regexps) as “code” or “verbatim stuff”
in org-mode? Neither =\,= nor ~\,~ work, of course. Also, I’d like
this to be backend-agnostic, so \texttt{M-,} doesn’t really work.
What is the rationale behind forbidding the comma as the “border”
character in org-emphasis-regexp-components? Should I change this
variable in my setup or is there a more general way to convince Org that
I really want verbatim/code snippets like =\,=?
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] How to represent Emacs keystrokes in Org?
On 2014-11-24, at 19:38, Rasmus wrote: Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl writes: Hello, I'm writing (in Org) a text on Emacs usage. How to correctly/canonically represent keystrokes, like C-x RET f? Currently, I use =C-x RET f=; are there any alternatives? That's what I'd do. Or ~C-x RET f~. You could also use a macro, if you want it to me be more semantic (I hope I use this word correctly). Houston, we've got a problem. What about =M-,=? Somehow it seems not to be interpreted in the right way: it does not get fontified correctly, nor does export in the right way. What can I do about it? I found about org-emphasis-regexp-components, is it the only way? Also, how do I reload Org without restarting Emacs? (I am an Emacs geek and I try to beat my record of emacs-uptime, you know. ;-) ) Cheers, Rasmus Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] How to represent Emacs keystrokes in Org?
On 2014-11-29, at 22:53, Marcin Borkowski wrote: On 2014-11-24, at 19:38, Rasmus wrote: Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl writes: Hello, I'm writing (in Org) a text on Emacs usage. How to correctly/canonically represent keystrokes, like C-x RET f? Currently, I use =C-x RET f=; are there any alternatives? That's what I'd do. Or ~C-x RET f~. You could also use a macro, if you want it to me be more semantic (I hope I use this word correctly). Houston, we've got a problem. What about =M-,=? Somehow it seems not to be interpreted in the right way: it does not get fontified correctly, nor does export in the right way. What can I do about it? I found about org-emphasis-regexp-components, is it the only way? Also, how do I reload Org without restarting Emacs? (I am an Emacs geek and I try to beat my record of emacs-uptime, you know. ;-) ) Wow, I got an idea, and it worked. Here's an excerpt from `C-u C-x =' at my solution;-): position: 11859 of 16051 (74%), column: 253 character: (displayed as ) (codepoint 8205, #o20015, #x200d) preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) code point in charset: 0x200D syntax: .which means: punctuation to input: type C-x 8 RET HEX-CODEPOINT or C-x 8 RET NAME buffer code: #xE2 #x80 #x8D file code: #xE2 #x80 #x8D (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix) display: by this font (glyph code) xft:-unknown-Phetsarath OT-normal-normal-normal-*-17-*-*-*-*-0-iso10646-1 (#x120) Character code properties: customize what to show name: ZERO WIDTH JOINER A bit ugly trick, but works. What are the opinions? Regards, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] How to represent Emacs keystrokes in Org?
Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl writes: On 2014-11-24, at 19:38, Rasmus wrote: Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl writes: Hello, I'm writing (in Org) a text on Emacs usage. How to correctly/canonically represent keystrokes, like C-x RET f? Currently, I use =C-x RET f=; are there any alternatives? That's what I'd do. Or ~C-x RET f~. You could also use a macro, if you want it to me be more semantic (I hope I use this word correctly). Houston, we've got a problem. What about =M-,=? Might be a bug. Note, =M-.=? works. I found about org-emphasis-regexp-components, is it the only way? I wouldn't mess with it. You should define macros for extra stuff. Also, how do I reload Org without restarting Emacs? (I am an Emacs geek and I try to beat my record of emacs-uptime, you know. ;-) ) M-x org-reload if new version, or M-x org-mode-restart. —Rasmus -- However beautiful the theory, you should occasionally look at the evidence
[O] How to represent Emacs keystrokes in Org?
Hello, I'm writing (in Org) a text on Emacs usage. How to correctly/canonically represent keystrokes, like C-x RET f? Currently, I use =C-x RET f=; are there any alternatives? TIA, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] How to represent Emacs keystrokes in Org?
Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl writes: Hello, I'm writing (in Org) a text on Emacs usage. How to correctly/canonically represent keystrokes, like C-x RET f? Currently, I use =C-x RET f=; are there any alternatives? That's what I'd do. Or ~C-x RET f~. You could also use a macro, if you want it to me be more semantic (I hope I use this word correctly). Cheers, Rasmus -- ⠠⠵
