Re: [O] Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-04 Thread Julien Danjou
On Thu, Mar 03 2011, Nick Dokos wrote:

 There are a few times when I've needed to go to the listinfo page
 and I've followed the link from the banner. I'm sure there are other
 ways of doing that though, so it's a /small/ objection :-)

Yes, look at the mail headers:

List-Id: General discussions about Org-mode. emacs-orgmode.gnu.org
List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode, 
mailto:emacs-orgmode-requ...@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe
List-Archive: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode
List-Post: mailto:emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
List-Help: mailto:emacs-orgmode-requ...@gnu.org?subject=help
List-Subscribe: http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode, 
mailto:emacs-orgmode-requ...@gnu.org?subject=subscribe

-- 
Julien Danjou
❱ http://julien.danjou.info


pgp9BbNt0rKx1.pgp
Description: PGP signature


[O] Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-03 Thread Bastien
Hello,

I'm thinking of removing the banner completely.  I don't think it is
really useful, and having it as a signature is indeed confusing.

Would people object?

-- 
 Bastien

-- 
Emacs-orgmode mailing list
Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode


[O] Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-03 Thread Gregor Zattler
Hi Bastien,
* Bastien b...@altern.org [03. Mar. 2011]:
 I'm thinking of removing the banner completely.  I don't think it is
 really useful, and having it as a signature is indeed confusing.

Yeah! Get rid of it!
 
 Would people object?

Not me at least.  It's an annoyance.

Ciao, Gregor
-- 
 -... --- .-. . -.. ..--.. ...-.-

-- 
Emacs-orgmode mailing list
Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode


Re: [O] Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-03 Thread Eric S Fraga
Bastien b...@altern.org writes:

 Hello,

 I'm thinking of removing the banner completely.  I don't think it is
 really useful, and having it as a signature is indeed confusing.

 Would people object?

 -- 
  Bastien

I would like to see it disappear...  it is indeed confusing, especially
now with the -- ...

Thanks,
eric

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1
: using Org-mode version 7.4 (release_7.4.592.gc431)

-- 
Emacs-orgmode mailing list
Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode


Re: [O] Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-03 Thread Bernt Hansen
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes:

 Bastien b...@altern.org writes:

 Hello,

 I'm thinking of removing the banner completely.  I don't think it is
 really useful, and having it as a signature is indeed confusing.

 Would people object?
 -- Bastien

 I would like to see it disappear...  it is indeed confusing, especially
 now with the -- ...

I won't miss it either.

Regards,
Bernt


-- 
Emacs-orgmode mailing list
Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode


Re: [O] Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-03 Thread Julien Danjou
On Thu, Mar 03 2011, Bastien wrote:

 I'm thinking of removing the banner completely.  I don't think it is
 really useful, and having it as a signature is indeed confusing.

 Would people object?

I agree and won't object.

-- 
Julien Danjou
❱ http://julien.danjou.info


pgpILMLbiJmRI.pgp
Description: PGP signature
-- 
Emacs-orgmode mailing list
Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode


Re: [O] Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-03 Thread Carsten Dominik

On Mar 3, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Julien Danjou wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 03 2011, Bastien wrote:
 
 I'm thinking of removing the banner completely.  I don't think it is
 really useful, and having it as a signature is indeed confusing.
 
 Would people object?
 
 I agree and won't object.

Same here.

 
 -- 
 Julien Danjou
 ❱ http://julien.danjou.info
 -- 
 Emacs-orgmode mailing list
 Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
 Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
 http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

- Carsten




--
Emacs-orgmode mailing list
Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode


Re: [O] Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-03 Thread Bastien
Bastien b...@altern.org writes:

 I'm thinking of removing the banner completely.  I don't think it is
 really useful, and having it as a signature is indeed confusing.

Thanks to those who responded -- I've now removed this banner.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-03 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien b...@altern.org writes:
 I'm thinking of removing the banner completely.  I don't think it is
 really useful, and having it as a signature is indeed confusing.

Please do.

 Would people object?

Not me... :-)


Achim.
-- 
+[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+

Waldorf MIDI Implementation  additional documentation:
http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfDocs




Re: [O] Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-03 Thread Nick Dokos
Bastien b...@altern.org wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I'm thinking of removing the banner completely.  I don't think it is
 really useful, and having it as a signature is indeed confusing.
 
 Would people object?
 

There are a few times when I've needed to go to the listinfo page
and I've followed the link from the banner. I'm sure there are other
ways of doing that though, so it's a /small/ objection :-)

Nick




[O] Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-02 Thread Nicolas
Hello,

Bastien b...@altern.org writes:

 While there are changes to the administration of the mailing list.
 Would it be difficult to change the list signature from

 : ___
 : Emacs-orgmode mailing list
 : Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
 : Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
 : http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

 to

 : __ 
 : Emacs-orgmode mailing list
 : Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
 : Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
 : http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

 Done -- except that I used -- , not __ .

 --  is the standard separator for signatures.

It may be too late, but I don't think it is an adequate solution.
A banner isn't a signature, but now, they look the same, regexp wise.
And as signatures are searched from bottom to top, the banner, being the
first in that order, will be found first.

Thus, now, the banner will be fontified like a signature instead of the
real one. If you try to hide the signature, you will only hide the
banner, and so on.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas

-- 
Emacs-orgmode mailing list
Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode


Re: [O] Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: Let's stick to one list for now

2011-03-02 Thread theo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello,


On 02/03/2011 19:22, Nicolas wrote:
 And as signatures are searched from bottom to top, the banner, being the
 first in that order, will be found first.

It would be better to search from top to bottom then.

That's what most clients do.

That way, you can have a regular signature, a ml signature, an
antivirus signature, an antispam signature, and whatever may occur
between you and the poster and discard all that crap.
- -- 
librement,
theo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNbpGZAAoJECkgngj8k9TvmD8IAIUVm1uw5XV2gcOzLtfl+h1D
ij2Ec3sOaHsYDuDgdpuDgzwUKOsc9oCj3JBOoG525Fen2UxYRt2seLBx6E/uPXRi
REHC8v8VzakW4qmyLaHA3zkaYSBOseqr8dKoK5YWmfRgJeREwCz0BJdU9vlR248V
eBtDKc+Bjuj0Dz8SiwxxyBr83CBIjYD8m8heClAb6Xuc28jVzD1uYecI7k0FMwY7
A9/qKmU3X3AsLeH61SX6yNcFdwZy9uFWG4epnMhVKg6quFXvBmRdxhfEbMXpajlb
sn28/mgMyORM78ZQg/pbED8WaWgukxhIayqKvVzQAzk/aQ3bks1IGduXeczo/28=
=hVBW
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
This message has been scanned for viruses and
dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
believed to be clean.


-- 
Emacs-orgmode mailing list
Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode


[O] Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: Let's stick to one list for now

2011-02-28 Thread Nicolas
Hello,

Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes:

 While there are changes to the administration of the mailing list.
 Would it be difficult to change the list signature from

 : ___
 : Emacs-orgmode mailing list
 : Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
 : Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
 : http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

 to

 : __ 
 : Emacs-orgmode mailing list
 : Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
 : Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
 : http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

 (note the space after the double hyphen) at the beginning of the second
 signature.  I /believe/ (but don't have any reference) that the -- 
 string is the standard signature delimiter, and it would result in at
 least gnus, and probably other mailing agents, stripping the signature
 from replies by default.

For that particular problem, I have

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(setq gnus-parameters
  '((string_matching_orgmode_list_folder
 (banner . ___
Emacs-orgmode mailing list
Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode;
#+end_src

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas

___
Emacs-orgmode mailing list
Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode


[O] Re: Automatic Org-mode mailing list signature -- Was: Let's stick to one list for now

2011-02-28 Thread Eric Schulte
Nicolas n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello,

 Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes:

 While there are changes to the administration of the mailing list.
 Would it be difficult to change the list signature from

 : ___
 : Emacs-orgmode mailing list
 : Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
 : Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
 : http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

 to

 : __ 
 : Emacs-orgmode mailing list
 : Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
 : Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
 : http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

 (note the space after the double hyphen) at the beginning of the second
 signature.  I /believe/ (but don't have any reference) that the -- 
 string is the standard signature delimiter, and it would result in at
 least gnus, and probably other mailing agents, stripping the signature
 from replies by default.

 For that particular problem, I have

 #+begin_src emacs-lisp
 (setq gnus-parameters
   '((string_matching_orgmode_list_folder
  (banner . ___
 Emacs-orgmode mailing list
 Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
 Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
 http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode;
 #+end_src


Thanks Nicolas, I'll add that to my gnus config now -- Eric

___
Emacs-orgmode mailing list
Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode