Re: [O] org-latex question
You have num:2, so subsubsections are not TOC'ed, so they don't get the alternative. If you set it to 3, all should work. That is what we have been discussing. There are situations where you do not want a headline to appear in TOC, but still want the ALT_TITLE used. It is now possible in org-mode, but there was some bug because of which it did not always work. I figured I was missing something, but I have a question (which means I'm still missing something :-) : what are ALT_TITLEs good for if not for the TOC? I think some styles put them in the header, regardless of TOC. Also needed if you need to add a footnote to a section heading. Vikas
Re: [O] org-latex question
Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes: You have num:2, so subsubsections are not TOC'ed, so they don't get the alternative. If you set it to 3, all should work. That is what we have been discussing. There are situations where you do not want a headline to appear in TOC, but still want the ALT_TITLE used. It is now possible in org-mode, but there was some bug because of which it did not always work. I figured I was missing something, but I have a question (which means I'm still missing something :-) : what are ALT_TITLEs good for if not for the TOC? Thanks, Nick
Re: [O] org-latex question
Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com writes: Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes: You have num:2, so subsubsections are not TOC'ed, so they don't get the alternative. If you set it to 3, all should work. That is what we have been discussing. There are situations where you do not want a headline to appear in TOC, but still want the ALT_TITLE used. It is now possible in org-mode, but there was some bug because of which it did not always work. I figured I was missing something, but I have a question (which means I'm still missing something :-) : what are ALT_TITLEs good for if not for the TOC? I think some styles put them in the header, regardless of TOC. All the best, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com
Re: [O] org-latex question
Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes:
[fn:3] aksjd kajshd kahsd
Fixed in 88ea2ced0e38646d393e038bc81d6a0d45b8dcd6. Thank you.
The second and third headings are getting exported as:
\subsection*[Heading 2]{Heading 2\footnote{aksjdlkjaslkjd}}
I do not think the * should be there.
I don't follow you. You want an unnumbered subsection (per H:2 option),
which, according to `org-latex-classes' translates into
\subsection*{%s}. So, what the expected output, then?
Regards,
Re: [O] org-latex question
On 28-Apr-2015, at 1:16 pm, Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr wrote:
Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes:
[fn:3] aksjd kajshd kahsd
Fixed in 88ea2ced0e38646d393e038bc81d6a0d45b8dcd6. Thank you.
The second and third headings are getting exported as:
\subsection*[Heading 2]{Heading 2\footnote{aksjdlkjaslkjd}}
I do not think the * should be there.
I don't follow you. You want an unnumbered subsection (per H:2 option),
which, according to `org-latex-classes' translates into
\subsection*{%s}. So, what the expected output, then?
\subsection*[Heading 2]{Heading 2\footnote{aksjdlkjaslkjd}}
should be
\subsection[Heading 2]{Heading 2\footnote{aksjdlkjaslkjd}}
In the example file, the first heading with ALT_TITLE is corrected exported.
Vikas
Re: [O] org-latex question
On 28-Apr-2015, at 1:17 pm, Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org
wrote:
On 28-Apr-2015, at 1:16 pm, Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr wrote:
Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes:
[fn:3] aksjd kajshd kahsd
Fixed in 88ea2ced0e38646d393e038bc81d6a0d45b8dcd6. Thank you.
The second and third headings are getting exported as:
\subsection*[Heading 2]{Heading 2\footnote{aksjdlkjaslkjd}}
I do not think the * should be there.
I don't follow you. You want an unnumbered subsection (per H:2 option),
which, according to `org-latex-classes' translates into
\subsection*{%s}. So, what the expected output, then?
\subsection*[Heading 2]{Heading 2\footnote{aksjdlkjaslkjd}}
should be
\subsection[Heading 2]{Heading 2\footnote{aksjdlkjaslkjd}}
In the example file, the first heading with ALT_TITLE is corrected exported.
My apologies. What you have done is right. Took me a moment to understand.
Now let me figure out how to use it in my case.
Sorry, please ignore the previous email.
Vikas
Re: [O] org-latex question
On 2015-04-27, at 06:05, Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org wrote:
In the document (manuscript of a book) that I am working, ALT_TITLE now works
in most cases. However, ALT_TITLE does not work for headlines in Appendices,
which come after
\begin{appendices}
Are you sure the problem isn't on the LaTeX side? Where does the
appendices environment come from? It appears not to be defined in
LaTeX2e nor in the standard classes.
Vikas
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] org-latex question
In the document (manuscript of a book) that I am working, ALT_TITLE now
works in most cases. However, ALT_TITLE does not work for headlines in
Appendices, which come after
\begin{appendices}
Are you sure the problem isn't on the LaTeX side? Where does the
appendices environment come from? It appears not to be defined in
LaTeX2e nor in the standard classes.
I am sorry, it has nothing to do with appendices. Although I am not able to
exactly figure out where the problem is, I have an example file where ALT_TITLE
gets exported only for one headline and not for the others. Please see the
attached org and and latex files.
Vikas
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Re: [O] org-latex question
Hello, Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes: I am sorry, it has nothing to do with appendices. Although I am not able to exactly figure out where the problem is, I have an example file where ALT_TITLE gets exported only for one headline and not for the others. Please see the attached org and and latex files. Vikas #+STARTUP: hidestars #+TITLE: Test title #+AUTHOR: Draft: Do not Cite #+OPTIONS: toc:nil num:2 H:4 #+LATEX_CLASS: article * Chap 1 ** Heading 1[fn:1] :PROPERTIES: :ALT_TITLE: Heading 1 :END: * Chapter 2 ** Heading 1 *** Heading 2[fn:2] :PROPERTIES: :ALT_TITLE: Heading 2 :END: * Chapter 3 *** Heading 3[fn:3] :PROPERTIES: :ALT_TITLE: Heading 3 :END: * Footnotes [fn:1] a,skdj akjd aksjd [fn:2] aksjdlkjaslkjd [fn:3] aksjd kajshd kahsd Fixed in 88ea2ced0e38646d393e038bc81d6a0d45b8dcd6. Thank you. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] org-latex question
Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes:
In the document (manuscript of a book) that I am working, ALT_TITLE
now works in most cases. However, ALT_TITLE does not work for
headlines in Appendices, which come after
\begin{appendices}
Are you sure the problem isn't on the LaTeX side? Where does the
appendices environment come from? It appears not to be defined in
LaTeX2e nor in the standard classes.
I am sorry, it has nothing to do with appendices. Although I am not
able to exactly figure out where the problem is, I have an example
file where ALT_TITLE gets exported only for one headline and not for
the others. Please see the attached org and and latex files.
You have num:2, so subsubsections are not TOC'ed, so they don't get
the alternative. If you set it to 3, all should work.
Nick
Re: [O] org-latex question
[fn:3] aksjd kajshd kahsd
Fixed in 88ea2ced0e38646d393e038bc81d6a0d45b8dcd6. Thank you.
The second and third headings are getting exported as:
\subsection*[Heading 2]{Heading 2\footnote{aksjdlkjaslkjd}}
I do not think the * should be there.
Vikas
Re: [O] org-latex question
You have num:2, so subsubsections are not TOC'ed, so they don't get the alternative. If you set it to 3, all should work. That is what we have been discussing. There are situations where you do not want a headline to appear in TOC, but still want the ALT_TITLE used. It is now possible in org-mode, but there was some bug because of which it did not always work. Nicholas has just fixed it, but, I think, there is still an extra * appearing. Vikas
Re: [O] org-latex question
True. This is because org-latex-headline is written this way:
,
| (if (and numberedp opt-title
| ;; ^^^ ^ why this? Maybe there's a good reason...
| (not (equal opt-title full-text))
| (string-match \\`\\(.*?[^*]\\){ section-fmt))
| (...)
|;; Impossible to add an alternative heading. Fallback to
|;; regular sectioning format string.
|(format section-fmt full-text
|(concat headline-label pre-blanks contents)))
`
However, it need not be this way: LaTeX itself (or more precisely: the
default classes) seem to support the alt-title even for starred
sectioning commands.
I removed NUMBEREDP, since I cannot remember the reason for its
presence.
Sorry, it took me some time before I could get back to figure this out.
In the document (manuscript of a book) that I am working, ALT_TITLE now works
in most cases. However, ALT_TITLE does not work for headlines in Appendices,
which come after
\begin{appendices}
Just as a reminder (since these emails are several days old), we are trying to
enable ALT_TITLE in all headlines irrespective of whether they appear in TOC or
not.
So there is perhaps still a problem somewhere.
Vikas
Re: [O] org-latex question
Hello,
Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes:
How do I get a headline to be exported like this?
\section[Effect on staff turnover]{An analysis of the
effect of the revised recruitment policies on staff
turnover at divisional headquarters}
That is, with an extra short-title to be used in Table of Contents and
other running heads?
See :ALT_TITLE: property.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] org-latex question
How do I get a headline to be exported like this?
\section[Effect on staff turnover]{An analysis of the
effect of the revised recruitment policies on staff
turnover at divisional headquarters}
That is, with an extra short-title to be used in Table of Contents and
other running heads?
See :ALT_TITLE: property.
ALT_TITLE seems to work only for those headlines that appear in the Table of
Contents. While that is the main purpose, this does not have to be necessarily
the case. In the present case, I need it because LaTeX would not accept a
footnote to a heading without it.
Vikas
Re: [O] org-latex question
Hi, See :ALT_TITLE: property. ALT_TITLE seems to work only for those headlines that appear in the Table of Contents. While that is the main purpose, this does not have to be necessarily the case. In the present case, I need it because LaTeX would not accept a footnote to a heading without it. It seems that the bug is either 1. That the footnote that is written out at all. If you call org-footnote-action (or whatever C-c C-x f is) you are told that footnotes are not supported in headings 2. The optional argument of the \section-like command should automatically be set either :ALT_TITLE or :title sans the footnote if a footnote is present. —Rasmus -- Vote for proprietary math!
Re: [O] org-latex question
On 2015-04-12, at 10:59, Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org wrote:
How do I get a headline to be exported like this?
\section[Effect on staff turnover]{An analysis of the
effect of the revised recruitment policies on staff
turnover at divisional headquarters}
That is, with an extra short-title to be used in Table of Contents and
other running heads?
See :ALT_TITLE: property.
ALT_TITLE seems to work only for those headlines that appear in the Table of
Contents. While that is the main purpose, this does not have to be
necessarily the case. In the present case, I need it because LaTeX would not
accept a footnote to a heading without it.
True. This is because org-latex-headline is written this way:
,
| (if (and numberedp opt-title
| ;; ^^^ ^ why this? Maybe there's a good reason...
| (not (equal opt-title full-text))
| (string-match \\`\\(.*?[^*]\\){ section-fmt))
| (...)
| ;; Impossible to add an alternative heading. Fallback to
| ;; regular sectioning format string.
| (format section-fmt full-text
| (concat headline-label pre-blanks contents)))
`
However, it need not be this way: LaTeX itself (or more precisely: the
default classes) seem to support the alt-title even for starred
sectioning commands.
Also, another way to circumvent this (/if/ there is some deep reason for
the above code which I don't see, which is quite probable) is to hack
into this part of the let form in org-latex-headline:
,
| (section-back-end
| (org-export-create-backend
|:parent 'latex
|:transcoders
|'((underline . (lambda (o c i) (format \\underline{%s} c))
`
and apply a (smart enough) filter in the (auxiliary) section-back-end,
something like removing a match for
\\footnote{.*?}
(this would be easy to break; in general, regexen are not a suitable
tool for this, because they can't count and match braces; however,
writing a suitable filter should not be extremely difficult).
Vikas
Hth,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] org-latex question
See :ALT_TITLE: property. ALT_TITLE seems to work only for those headlines that appear in the Table of Contents. While that is the main purpose, this does not have to be necessarily the case. In the present case, I need it because LaTeX would not accept a footnote to a heading without it. It seems that the bug is either 1. That the footnote that is written out at all. If you call org-footnote-action (or whatever C-c C-x f is) you are told that footnotes are not supported in headings This has been fixed today by Nicolas. There is another thread on the mailing list discussing this. So if you update orgmode, this would go. 2. The optional argument of the \section-like command should automatically be set either :ALT_TITLE or :title sans the footnote if a footnote is present. Yes, this needs to be implemented, it seems. Vikas
Re: [O] org-latex question
Hello,
Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl writes:
True. This is because org-latex-headline is written this way:
,
| (if (and numberedp opt-title
| ;; ^^^ ^ why this? Maybe there's a good reason...
|(not (equal opt-title full-text))
|(string-match \\`\\(.*?[^*]\\){ section-fmt))
| (...)
| ;; Impossible to add an alternative heading. Fallback to
| ;; regular sectioning format string.
| (format section-fmt full-text
| (concat headline-label pre-blanks contents)))
`
However, it need not be this way: LaTeX itself (or more precisely: the
default classes) seem to support the alt-title even for starred
sectioning commands.
I removed NUMBEREDP, since I cannot remember the reason for its
presence.
Also, another way to circumvent this (/if/ there is some deep reason for
the above code which I don't see, which is quite probable) is to hack
into this part of the let form in org-latex-headline:
,
| (section-back-end
| (org-export-create-backend
| :parent 'latex
| :transcoders
| '((underline . (lambda (o c i) (format \\underline{%s} c))
`
and apply a (smart enough) filter in the (auxiliary) section-back-end,
something like removing a match for
\\footnote{.*?}
(this would be easy to break; in general, regexen are not a suitable
tool for this, because they can't count and match braces; however,
writing a suitable filter should not be extremely difficult).
Or ignore completely footnotes-references in the anonymous back-end.
However, is it needed since :ALT_TITLE: is now supported for all
headlines? I'm not sure.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
[O] org-latex question
How do I get a headline to be exported like this?
\section[Effect on staff turnover]{An analysis of the
effect of the revised recruitment policies on staff
turnover at divisional headquarters}
That is, with an extra short-title to be used in Table of Contents and other
running heads?
Vikas
