[Orgmode] Re: Simple wiki system like VIMWiki
Forgot to add the link to VIMWiki: http://code.google.com/p/vimwiki/ Regards, Marcelo. On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I've started using vim lately for my programming needs and I love it, mostly because the motion and shortcuts are much more efficient. That aside, I still think emacs is a great platform and text-editor and I still use it for other stuff, mainly organizing myself (thanks to orgmode). Most of the todo/GTD stuff is well handled by org, but I do find that for reference and brainstorming, a real-time (and straightforward) wiki is the best solution. I have been managing to keep things simple by keeping all my reference org files under a (/wiki) folder and setting peepopen (an OSX cocoa fuzzy-finder (http://peepcode.com/products/peepopen)) to index specifically this folder and bound this to Command-w, and it works great for getting a quick index of the wiki and quickly open a file from it. However, linking and creating new files is far from optimal. Org-mode still tries to keep things at the headline-level, instead of at file level. This works, but for me, not so well. Why? The simple fact that org asks me if I want to create a target in the current file or in a another file already gets me out of the zone. I prefer some convetion over configuration. It'd be nice if org had, for example, a more org-like wiki (like wikinodes) and a more traditional one (like VIMwiki). Not sure if there's another mode I could combo with org that would give the functionality I want, I'm open to suggestions :) Marcelo. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Simple wiki system like VIMWiki
Is no one interested in such feature? Marcelo. On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to add the link to VIMWiki: http://code.google.com/p/vimwiki/ Regards, Marcelo. On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I've started using vim lately for my programming needs and I love it, mostly because the motion and shortcuts are much more efficient. That aside, I still think emacs is a great platform and text-editor and I still use it for other stuff, mainly organizing myself (thanks to orgmode). Most of the todo/GTD stuff is well handled by org, but I do find that for reference and brainstorming, a real-time (and straightforward) wiki is the best solution. I have been managing to keep things simple by keeping all my reference org files under a (/wiki) folder and setting peepopen (an OSX cocoa fuzzy-finder (http://peepcode.com/products/peepopen)) to index specifically this folder and bound this to Command-w, and it works great for getting a quick index of the wiki and quickly open a file from it. However, linking and creating new files is far from optimal. Org-mode still tries to keep things at the headline-level, instead of at file level. This works, but for me, not so well. Why? The simple fact that org asks me if I want to create a target in the current file or in a another file already gets me out of the zone. I prefer some convetion over configuration. It'd be nice if org had, for example, a more org-like wiki (like wikinodes) and a more traditional one (like VIMwiki). Not sure if there's another mode I could combo with org that would give the functionality I want, I'm open to suggestions :) Marcelo. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Simple wiki system like VIMWiki
Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com wrote: Is no one interested in such feature? Just an fyi: I don't know whether it's generally the case, but I received your original mail (with date Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:07:57 -0600) at the same time as I received your follow-up (with date Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:03:46 -0600), so either the original mail was hung up at your end or it was hung up on the list server or some other unfortunate event happened. In any case, even if I were interested, I would have had no time to consider it. Regards, Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Simple wiki system like VIMWiki
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com wrote: Is no one interested in such feature? Just an fyi: I don't know whether it's generally the case, but I received your original mail (with date Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:07:57 -0600) at the same time as I received your follow-up (with date Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:03:46 -0600), so either the original mail was hung up at your end or it was hung up on the list server or some other unfortunate event happened. In any case, even if I were interested, I would have had no time to consider it. Looking at it more closely, it seems to have kicked around the list server for 24 hours: , | ... | Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56564 helo=lists.gnu.org) | by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) | id 1PbE8I-0002JO-KX | for nicholas.do...@hp.com; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:21:38 -0500 | Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54242 helo=eggs.gnu.org) | by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ParRh-0003Vq-78 | for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 10:08:17 -0500 | ... ` Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Simple wiki system like VIMWiki
Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com writes: However, linking and creating new files is far from optimal. Could you please explain what you mean here? I find C-u C-c C-l to be a very efficient way of creating file links (both to new and existing files). Also, the following two settings make it quite easy to open new links: (setq org-return-follows-link t) (setq org-open-non-existing-files t) Org-mode still tries to keep things at the headline-level, instead of at file level. Again, could you please explain what you mean by this? The following instructions will make org behave less like an outline and more like a tradition wiki (such as muse mode): 1. Create links with C-u C-c C-l (even better: rebind this to something simpler). 2. Use the settings above to open links easily. 3. [Optional] Set org-startup-folded to nil for a full-page view. 4. [Optional] Create a single wrapper function that creates a new link, opens the file, and adds the file to the list of agenda files. And since org-mode supports inline images and all sorts of hyperlinks, this will provide everything necessary for a nice wiki system. Well, almost everything I suppose the last step would be to modify org-wikinodes to allow CamelCase links to files. Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Simple wiki system like VIMWiki
I'd think org could do anything needed for this. I know Marcelo asked about separate files, but in principle, a command can allow ido to help select olpaths, for ease of use. In principle, it can even create a header and refile it using ido to a suitable location, and put an org ID link to it at point. Offhand I don't know of an existing way of doing this. To get even fancier, agenda can search for the current node's ID -- or (for excellent fanciness) any other designator in any mode such as capture recognizes -- so that you have the equivalent of a reverse link without having to explicitly create a bidirectional link. I wrote something about this possibility and can dredge it up if there is interest. Samuel -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com I support WPI: http://www.wpinstitute.org/xmrv/index.html -- PLEASE DONATE === I want to see the original (pre-hold) Lo et al. 2010 NIH/FDA/Harvard MLV paper. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
