Re: [BUG] org-mode binds C-c C-TAB, which seems illegal [9.5 (9.5-g0a86ad @ /home/il/.config/emacs/elpa/org-9.5/)]
Hello, Ingo Lohmar writes: > In 9.5, org-key-map binds org-force-cycle-archived to (kbd "C-c C-TAB"). > At least on my machine, this specification is illegal: it generates an > entry in org-key-map, but the key presses yield an "undefined" message. > > Binding the command to (kbd "C-c C-") instead works, but not on a > tty. > > It's been my understanding that "TAB" is the ascii control character, > identical to C-i, and hence "C-TAB" cannot work. "" is the GUI > system's key event (in my case, X), and does not work on a terminal. Fixed. Thank you. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [BUG] org-mode binds C-c C-TAB, which seems illegal [9.5 (9.5-g0a86ad @ /home/il/.config/emacs/elpa/org-9.5/)]
Ingo Lohmar [2021-11-17 Wed 21:19] wrote: > Can people actually enter "C-c C-TAB" into their emacs (how?), or has > everybody has just bound another key in their config? I've noticed it a couple of weeks ago; just rebound org-force-cycle-archived to (kbd "C-c C-") -- Daniel Fleischer
Re: [BUG] org-mode binds C-c C-TAB, which seems illegal [9.5 (9.5-g0a86ad @ /home/il/.config/emacs/elpa/org-9.5/)]
On 18/11/2021 04:19, Ingo Lohmar wrote: On Fri, Oct 01 2021 23:16 (+0200), Ingo Lohmar wrote: In 9.5, org-key-map binds org-force-cycle-archived to (kbd "C-c C-TAB"). At least on my machine, this specification is illegal: it generates an entry in org-key-map, but the key presses yield an "undefined" message. Binding the command to (kbd "C-c C-") instead works, but not on a tty. It's been my understanding that "TAB" is the ascii control character, identical to C-i, and hence "C-TAB" cannot work. "" is the GUI system's key event (in my case, X), and does not work on a terminal. it seems that the above bug report has gone unnoticed. It seems the change was introduced in 565361eb698b0b39c1d823ad1565f5bd88fa2034 and persists. Can people actually enter "C-c C-TAB" into their emacs (how?), or has everybody has just bound another key in their config? There were a discussion of GUI-only vs. terminal key events: https://list.orgmode.org/00ca1c7b-1e1d-fc91-eef3-dfc29b51b...@daniel-mendler.de/T/#u
Re: [BUG] org-mode binds C-c C-TAB, which seems illegal [9.5 (9.5-g0a86ad @ /home/il/.config/emacs/elpa/org-9.5/)]
Timothy writes: > I think that the two actions we may want to take here are: > 1. Replace "C-TAB" with "C-" in the keybinding > 2. Change the keybinding to something else that doesn't use control+tab >for instance, "C-c M-TAB" seems to be available. > > Which option seems preferable? Note that 565361eb6 explicitly changed C- to C-TAB: >> Fixes: `org-mode-map` binds `` which is unnecessary and harmful, >> since it takes precendence over bindings of TAB even in keymaps with >> higher precedence. >> >> Reported-by: Daniel Mendler M-TAB may be not good for Windows users. Maybe C-c S-TAB? Though it feels not intuitive. Another possibility may be overloading C-c TAB (org-ctrl-c-tab). Best, Ihor
Re: [BUG] org-mode binds C-c C-TAB, which seems illegal [9.5 (9.5-g0a86ad @ /home/il/.config/emacs/elpa/org-9.5/)]
I think that the two actions we may want to take here are: 1. Replace "C-TAB" with "C-" in the keybinding 2. Change the keybinding to something else that doesn't use control+tab for instance, "C-c M-TAB" seems to be available. Which option seems preferable? -- Timothy
Re: [BUG] org-mode binds C-c C-TAB, which seems illegal [9.5 (9.5-g0a86ad @ /home/il/.config/emacs/elpa/org-9.5/)]
Ingo Lohmar writes: > It seems the change was introduced in > 565361eb698b0b39c1d823ad1565f5bd88fa2034 and persists. > > Can people actually enter "C-c C-TAB" into their emacs (how?), or has > everybody has just bound another key in their config? Mmm, I can't seem to input C-c C-TAB either. IIUC (but maybe I don't), this makes sense because - Emacs translates the function key into the control character TAB=^I when no modifiers are added. I.e. this can be triggered by hitting or +i: > (local-set-key (kbd "TAB") (lambda () (interactive) (message "TAB-ish!"))) - But Emacs can't translate + into "C-TAB", because C-TAB means "control+control+i", which I guess is not representable at the key code level or something? Hopefully someone can explain this better. (?\C-\t does return something though, and it's consistent with what (kbd "C-TAB") returns, so I guess there's no reason why Emacs couldn't translate C- to C-TAB like it does to TAB? 路) FWIW, however you decide to fix this, I'd be very grateful if org-cycle remained bound to TAB, since I'm one of those weirdos who actually hits +i for TAB instead of …
Re: [BUG] org-mode binds C-c C-TAB, which seems illegal [9.5 (9.5-g0a86ad @ /home/il/.config/emacs/elpa/org-9.5/)]
On Fri, Oct 01 2021 23:16 (+0200), Ingo Lohmar wrote: > Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and > what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See > > https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback > > Your bug report will be posted to the Org mailing list. > > > In 9.5, org-key-map binds org-force-cycle-archived to (kbd "C-c C-TAB"). > At least on my machine, this specification is illegal: it generates an > entry in org-key-map, but the key presses yield an "undefined" message. > > Binding the command to (kbd "C-c C-") instead works, but not on a > tty. > > It's been my understanding that "TAB" is the ascii control character, > identical to C-i, and hence "C-TAB" cannot work. "" is the GUI > system's key event (in my case, X), and does not work on a terminal. > > Emacs : GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version > 3.24.24, cairo version 1.16.0) > of 2021-09-02 > Package: Org mode version 9.5 (9.5-g0a86ad @ > /home/il/.config/emacs/elpa/org-9.5/) Hi all, it seems that the above bug report has gone unnoticed. It seems the change was introduced in 565361eb698b0b39c1d823ad1565f5bd88fa2034 and persists. Can people actually enter "C-c C-TAB" into their emacs (how?), or has everybody has just bound another key in their config? Best, Ingo
[BUG] org-mode binds C-c C-TAB, which seems illegal [9.5 (9.5-g0a86ad @ /home/il/.config/emacs/elpa/org-9.5/)]
Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback Your bug report will be posted to the Org mailing list. In 9.5, org-key-map binds org-force-cycle-archived to (kbd "C-c C-TAB"). At least on my machine, this specification is illegal: it generates an entry in org-key-map, but the key presses yield an "undefined" message. Binding the command to (kbd "C-c C-") instead works, but not on a tty. It's been my understanding that "TAB" is the ascii control character, identical to C-i, and hence "C-TAB" cannot work. "" is the GUI system's key event (in my case, X), and does not work on a terminal. Emacs : GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 3, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.24, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2021-09-02 Package: Org mode version 9.5 (9.5-g0a86ad @ /home/il/.config/emacs/elpa/org-9.5/)
