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On 01/21/14, 11:03 , Andreas Leha wrote:
> Hi Rainer,
> 
> really cool.  I am very short on time right now, so I can't promise
> I'll get around to test it soon.

Great.

> 
> Just one comment:
> 
> Rainer M Krug <rai...@krugs.de> writes:
> 
>> On 01/20/14, 19:38 , Eric Schulte wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I will check it a little bit longer and see that I can
>>>> display the error message in the dummy graphic. Should have
>>>> it by tomorrow.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sounds good.  Alternately, maybe you could get the R process
>>> to fail and print an error to STDERR so that the export will
>>> stop immediately and inform the user of the error.
>> 
>> I think it is better to catch the error and return with the 
>> computations in the next block, because
>> 
>> 1) a code block which produces a graph is most often an end
>> point, i.e. further blocks should (as I see it) not rely on the
>> output of this block
> 
> If all (your) documents follow that rule, that blocks producing 
> graphical output are not needed later on, than it might be cool to
> have an [draft]-like option in Org that by default replaces all
> images (not just failing ones) with a cheap-to-export graphic.  For
> some of my documents that is a real time saver.

I thought about that as well. a header argument :draft would be very
useful for *many* aspects.
Effectively, one could use the initially the following approach:

- - :draft null (default) :: everything as usual
- - :draft graphics :: Does not evaluate :results graphic blocks and
instead of the graphic, displays a "graphic" with "DRAFT - the code
block name if any", everything else as usual
- - :draft all :: does not evaluate *any* code block but instead returns
a message (if anything should be returned) with "DRAFT - the code
block name if any"

Something like this would be very useful, not only for R. It could be
useful to have this, as a per language header argument, but one could
start with R?


> 
> I can mimic that now by passing a variable 'draft' to the code
> blocks and deal with it internally.  But that means a lot of manual
> coding.
> 
>> 
>> 2) if the export continues, one can fix more then one error at a
>> time, so being more efficient.
>> 
>> 3) If the export continues, it makes it possible to use this to
>> create placeholder graphs:
>> 
>> #+begin_src R  :file TheFantasticGraph.pdf :results graphics 
>> stop("This is a placeholder for a new fantastic graph" #+end_src
>> 
>> Where TheFantasticGraph will display the message "This is a 
>> placeholder for a new fantastic graph".
>> 
>> I have now added the error to the normal R output in addition to
>> a graph, but the export is not canceled.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'll send you the patch then.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sounds great, thanks.
>> 
>> OK - here it is attached (my first patch to org :-) ) - let me
>> know if it is OK.
>> 
> 
> Really nice addition!  Thanks already (without testing the patch)!

Thanks, and I hope it works as well on your side...

Cheers,

Rainer

> 
> [ ... ]
> 
> Regards, Andreas
> 
> 

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