Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-08-04 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Federico Beffa writes: > The problem with that is that a displayed equation should NOT start a > new paragraph (in the generated LaTeX file). This is because if it > does then LaTeX puts more (vertical) space than desirable. If this is always the case for you, you can "fix" this behavior by

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-08-03 Thread Nick Dokos
Federico Beffa writes: >> It's a bit more complicated than that: one upgrades org at some >> opportune moment, then three months/years/centuries later, tries to use >> that presentation that worked perfectly before - boom. If you go back >> and check all your old presentations each time you upgra

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-08-03 Thread Federico Beffa
> It's a bit more complicated than that: one upgrades org at some > opportune moment, then three months/years/centuries later, tries to use > that presentation that worked perfectly before - boom. If you go back > and check all your old presentations each time you upgrade org, you are, > I would gu

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-08-03 Thread Nick Dokos
Federico Beffa writes: >>> 5. Existing documents are very easy to fix. >>> >> >>Backwards compatibility is important. It has been broken >>before, for very good reasons, and even though it was done very >>carefully, it still caused many problems (still does). >>So I don't buy the "very easy to fi

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-08-03 Thread Federico Beffa
>> 5. Existing documents are very easy to fix. >> > >Backwards compatibility is important. It has been broken >before, for very good reasons, and even though it was done very >carefully, it still caused many problems (still does). >So I don't buy the "very easy to fix" part: it will bite somebody >

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-08-02 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Rasmus writes: > It works sensibly in latex-mode. If your text is > >My displayed \[equation\] >is here > > M-q will make it > >My displayed \[equation\] is here > > But > >My displayed >\[equation\] >is here > > Is unaltered by M-q (though it was not obvious to

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-08-01 Thread Federico Beffa
> I didn't read the other thread is details, but it seems the most > sensible thing to do is alter the org fill function(s). These seems > to rely on org-element, though, and I'm guessing that is why a syntax > change is necessary, yes? I would be perfectly happy with this behavior. Can't comment

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-07-31 Thread Rasmus
Federico Beffa writes: > Who is entitled to vote? If I am then here is my vote in favor for the > following reasons: > > 1. the construct \[...\] has been defined in LaTeX for equations which > must stand out and therefore belong on separate lines. It would > therefore make sense to conform to th

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-07-30 Thread Federico Beffa
> So what exactly is the problem? The problem is that \[...\] is often used for long/complicated equations. If you allow auto-fill to change/modify your carefully written equation, it becomes very difficult to read. Regards, Fede

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-07-30 Thread Nick Dokos
Federico Beffa writes: > Who is entitled to vote? If I am then here is my vote in favor for the > following reasons: > > 1. the construct \[...\] has been defined in LaTeX for equations which > must stand out and therefore belong on separate lines. It would > therefore make sense to conform to th

[O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (+1)

2014-07-30 Thread Federico Beffa
Who is entitled to vote? If I am then here is my vote in favor for the following reasons: 1. the construct \[...\] has been defined in LaTeX for equations which must stand out and therefore belong on separate lines. It would therefore make sense to conform to the borrowed syntax. 2. the alternati

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline

2014-07-28 Thread Bastien
Hi Nicolas, Nicolas Goaziou writes: > - documents containing \[...\] mid-line will be broken (such > constructs will not be recognized anymore). That's a big cons for only a small benefit IMHO. But I don't feel strongly about it. -- Bastien

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline

2014-07-28 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > The current proposal is to make them elements instead of objects in Org > syntax (i.e, a `latex-environment' instead of a `latex-fragment'). > [...] > WDYT? I think it's a bad idea. One can use \begin{EQUATION} ยท \end{EQUATION} (where EQUATION is one's favorite math

Re: [O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline (-1)

2014-07-28 Thread Nicolas Berthier
You wrote: > Hello, > > As discussed in a recent thread[fn:1], \[...\] constructs are > counter-intuitive to some users. > > At the time being, \[...\] are inline-able. As a consequence, they are > can be written in the middle of a line, and filled, much like \(...\). > Even though it is also poss

[O] [POLL] Syntax change: make \[...\] non-inline

2014-07-28 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, As discussed in a recent thread[fn:1], \[...\] constructs are counter-intuitive to some users. At the time being, \[...\] are inline-able. As a consequence, they are can be written in the middle of a line, and filled, much like \(...\). Even though it is also possible to inline them in a L