Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Thorsten First thank you very much for creating outshine. On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: > I'm not sure how orgstruct-mode does it, but since outshine is a minor > mode, it cannot use Key bindings exactly like Org, since many of these > are used in

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Michael Brand writes: Hello Micheal, > My requirements for orgstruct-mode or its replacement are very limited > compared to what orgstruct-mode or outshine.el do or intend to do: > 4) Key bindings exactly like Org > All items 3)..7) are supported in orgstruct-mode,

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Michael Brand wrote: > 6) No syntax highlighting of headings To get the above behavior of orgstruct-mode in outshine for programming modes I added outshine-fontify. It makes me ready to let orgstruct-mode go. outshine-fontify is a

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Michael Brand writes: > I assume in the above sentence you meant that a comment to be a > heading has not to be indented. Well, yes and no. On my config, " ;;; test" is highlighted as a heading, but it's only foldable as ";;; test". > That is at least what I

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

i wrote this a long time ago to summarize the different options for editing notes in org. warning: it might make zero sense to you. maybe it will be useful to somebody. === sometimes you want the notes to stay in your external file (example: whatever.el). but edit them in org mode. orgstruct

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hello, Carsten Dominik writes: > I am glad you are not planning to remove orgtbl-mode. In particular, in > connection with radio tables, it is a feature that I use constantly, so I > would object strongly to removing it. Of course. "orgtbl-mode" is nice and certainly shouldn't

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Adam On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Adam Porter wrote: > ;; Regular comment > ;;; Heading level 1 > Heading level 2 > ... > > Then any comment that starts with 3 or more semicolons is indented to > the left edge and becomes a collapsible heading, regardless of the

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Rasmus On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Rasmus wrote: > FWIW, I use similar patterns, > > ;; outline-regexp: ";;\\*+\\|\\`" > ;; orgstruct-heading-prefix-regexp: ";;\\*+\\|\\`" Thank you, I will try that out. Michael

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Adam Thank you for all the explanations that I will study and try later. Especially the origami package looks very useful to me. Michael

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Michael Brand writes: > orgstruct-mode supports it with orgstruct-heading-prefix-regexp set to > for example " *;;;* ". FWIW, I use similar patterns, ;; outline-regexp: ";;\\*+\\|\\`" ;; orgstruct-heading-prefix-regexp: ";;\\*+\\|\\`" Rasmus -- This is

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Michael Brand writes: Hi Michael, > First thank you for taking over maintenance of outshine.el from > Thorsten Jolitz. Well, I figured it was the least I could do, since he's put so much effort into outshine, outorg, and navi-mode over the years. Be advised,

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Adam First thank you for taking over maintenance of outshine.el from Thorsten Jolitz. On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Adam Porter wrote: > Rasmus writes: > >> I also would like to see a minor-mode for Org-like cycling when using >> outline-minor-mode, as

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Rasmus writes: > I also would like to see a minor-mode for Org-like cycling when using > outline-minor-mode, as I use this feature in init.el. Outshine provides this feature. In my init file, I have headers like: Org And when I press TAB with point on that line, it

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Nicolas, Thanks for bringing this up. > I would like to remove Org Struct minor mode from Org code base. Here is > the rationale: Ugh, I use it in init.el and for emails, but it doesn’t work great in message-mode anyway. I miss list handling. Supposedly, you can get Emacs to handle lists,

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > I would like to remove Org Struct minor mode from Org code base. Here is > the rationale: > > 1. It is broken. It might look like using Org in another buffer, but it >is not. In particular, it just cannot cope with lists,

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Thanks for pointing out speed keys in outshine.el that I was not aware of. However I still failed. My requirements for orgstruct-mode or its replacement are very limited compared to what orgstruct-mode or outshine.el do or intend to do: 1) Only headings, no lists 2) No structure editing, only

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Nicolas, I have not problems with removing orgstruct-mode, it is indeed a bad hack and I am no longer using it. I am glad you are not planning to remove orgtbl-mode. In particular, in connection with radio tables, it is a feature that I use constantly, so I would object strongly to removing

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi Nicolas, 2017ko abuztuak 20an, Nicolas Goaziou-ek idatzi zuen: > > Hello, > > I would like to remove Org Struct minor mode from Org code base. FWIW, +1 from me. I often bumped up against org-struct related difficulties when coding on org, and I can easily imagine that removing it will make

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:00 AM Michael Brand wrote: > Hi all > > If I understand correctly orgstruct-mode has much more convenient key > bindings like TAB and its variants for cycling than outshine.el or > outline-minor-mode which is a big advantage for me. When

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 9:58 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to remove Org Struct minor mode from Org code base. Like many others who replied here, I also do not use Org Struct. So its removal will have no effect on my workflow. > 5. There are

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

On Tuesday, 22 Aug 2017 at 08:58, Marcin Borkowski wrote: [...] > Out of curiosity: did anyone consider using lentic > (https://github.com/phillord/lentic) for that? I did look at this in the past but it seemed overkill for emails... and I use babel when programming otherwise so don't really

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi all, I'm in a similar situation - I only use Org-struct for my init.el, I'm fine with dropping it. On 2017-08-21, at 07:47, Jarmo Hurri wrote: > Eric S Fraga writes: > >> I have no issues with org-struct-mode being removed. I used to use >> it,

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Nicolas Goaziou writes: I would like to remove Org Struct minor mode from Org code base. Like others, I only use Org Struct mode to get some Org-like list handling and such when I'm writing email, and as Nicolas observes, it barely works. So I'm OK with this,

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hello. I have no issues with org-struct-mode being removed. I used to use it, especially for emails. I now simply change the mode to org, write whatever content I want, and then switch back to message mode to send my email. [...] I do exactly as Eric says here. Actually, I didn't knew about

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hi all If I understand correctly orgstruct-mode has much more convenient key bindings like TAB and its variants for cycling than outshine.el or outline-minor-mode which is a big advantage for me. When point is on a heading also the other key bindings are just the same as in Org mode. This was my

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Eric S Fraga writes: > I have no issues with org-struct-mode being removed. I used to use > it, especially for emails. I now simply change the mode to org, write > whatever content I want, and then switch back to message mode to send > my email. Works fine and gives me the

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

I agree too, because the OrgStruct mode functions is so limited for basic Org-mode viewing/editing/navigating etc. [stardiviner] GPG key ID: 47C32433 IRC(freeenode): stardiviner Twitter: @numbchild Key fingerprint = 9BAA 92BC CDDD B9EF 3B36 CB99 B8C4 B8E5

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

One of the reasons I moved to using mu4e for email was because I was told I could use orgStruct mode and write my email using org structured editing. The reality has been somewhat disappointing. One of the main things I wanted was better handling of lists and this is one area of orgstruct mode

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

I have no issues with org-struct-mode being removed. I used to use it, especially for emails. I now simply change the mode to org, write whatever content I want, and then switch back to message mode to send my email. Works fine and gives me the full power of org. -- : Eric S Fraga via Emacs

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

On 08/20/2017 09:57 AM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > I would like to remove Org Struct minor mode from Org code base. Here is > the rationale: > I use OrgStruct in my configuration files, but it is so limited that I've been slowly moving my configuration to Org files. It is frustrating that

Re: [O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

I have been using org-mode for a few years now, but have never yet noticed org-struct mode. So removing org-struct would be no loss for me (and possibly a gain, if it eased ongoing org-mode maintenance and development). OTOH I certainly do use and appreciate orgtbl minor mode, and it would

[O] [RFC] Remove Org Struct mode

Hello, I would like to remove Org Struct minor mode from Org code base. Here is the rationale: 1. It is broken. It might look like using Org in another buffer, but it is not. In particular, it just cannot cope with lists, indentation, filling in, e.g., Message mode, as soon as we try