Re: [O] An Org-mode LaTeX class?
Aloha Rasmus, Rasmus writes: >> Moreover, the look of these elements is configurable on the LaTeX >> end, and further by means of Org options. This way, we drop the >> "generic LaTeX" thing (which is nice for people sending articles to >> journals etc. – so my dream should not replace the current LaTeX >> exporter, only constitute a variant!), but instead we gain a >> beautiful, configurable pdf rendering of Org buffers. > > Thomas S. Dye tried it back in the days. It was called org-article¹. > I'm sure he will share his experience here eventually. My goal was to get publication quality documents out of the old exporter, which aimed to make LaTeX copies of notes taken in Org mode. I tried to see how much work I could off-load to LaTeX so I didn't have to wrestle with the old exporter. Nicolas's new exporter framework very completely solved the problems I was having with the old exporter and I now routinely write journal articles in Org mode, using one of the standard classes (typically scrartcl) because it is more convenient for me than working in LaTeX. It is my experience that reproducible research is useful, even when it is not a goal of publication. Because my Org mode files capture an entire analysis, I know exactly where to go when I want to pick up some old research. That said, I think there is some overlap between Marcin's dream and what I was trying to accomplish, though Marcin's knowledge of LaTeX and programming generally appear to put him well ahead of what I brought to the table working on org-article. All the best, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com
Re: [O] An Org-mode LaTeX class?
Hi Marcin, Thanks for sharing your ideas. Marcin Borkowski writes: > Imagine someone wrote a dedicated Org-mode LaTeX class, and the LaTeX > exporter got an option to export to this class. The class modifies > LaTeX so that it supports all Org's elements and objects, and things > like tags, timestamps, checkboxes etc. Honestly, a patch or an exact bug report would be great. If something is not right it should be fixed across all backends. That being said, at least cheackboxes are pretty pretty these days (checkbox (case (org-element-property :checkbox item) (on "$\\boxtimes$ ") (off "$\\square$ ") (trans "$\\boxminus$ "))) It would be nice to format all timestamps using strftime-like syntax. > Moreover, the look of these elements is configurable on the LaTeX > end, and further by means of Org options. This way, we drop the > "generic LaTeX" thing (which is nice for people sending articles to > journals etc. – so my dream should not replace the current LaTeX > exporter, only constitute a variant!), but instead we gain a > beautiful, configurable pdf rendering of Org buffers. Thomas S. Dye tried it back in the days. It was called org-article¹. I'm sure he will share his experience here eventually. In general, if you want to pursuit this, I would advice you to look into derived classes, ox and ox-latex. In ox-latex search for org-export-define-backend and note how each element is "translated" using a functinon. From the sound of your project you will want to tune some of them, and change the default class (for the latter point see ox-koma-letter). I think you will have a easier time today than Thomas' had, since ox and org-element is so modual and easy to work with. Two good examples of ox-latex derived backends are ox-beamer.el and ox-koma-letter.el. Hope it helps. —Rasmus Footnotes: ¹ http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/article-class.html -- Got mashed potatoes. Ain't got no T-Bone. No T-Bone
Re: [O] An Org-mode LaTeX class?
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:02 AM, Fabrice Popineau < fabrice.popin...@supelec.fr> wrote: > I think that I don't know if you can suit everybody's need but that is > worth a try. > For myself, I already wrote a dedicated LaTeX class, because it was too > cumbersome > to configure org-mode for the different kind of documents I need to produce > (not impossible, just too lengthy to duplicate parameters). > I did something similar, for similar reasons. I found it easier to make a LaTeX Template look like what I wanted than to force Org into generating LaTeX that was what I wanted. > Hence, I have a class that can output exams, lab sessions texts, course > notes and slides > with only a couple of options. > I haven't done slides yet, because I've not picked up Beamer and my approach was more branding. I have once class that brand-matches my primary employer (Font, logo usage, etc.), another one that matches one of my large volunteer efforts, and yet another generic “personal” one for “my” documents. > And I export only subtrees that are configured for > this class. it took a bit of time, but it definitely worth it. > Agreed > > 2014-10-28 2:37 GMT+01:00 Marcin Borkowski : > >> Hi all, >> >> I have a dream;-). >> >> Imagine someone wrote a dedicated Org-mode LaTeX class, and the LaTeX >> exporter got an option to export to this class. The class modifies >> LaTeX so that it supports all Org's elements and objects, and things >> like tags, timestamps, checkboxes etc. Moreover, the look of these >> elements is configurable on the LaTeX end, and further by means of Org >> options. This way, we drop the "generic LaTeX" thing (which is nice for >> people sending articles to journals etc. – so my dream should not >> replace the current LaTeX exporter, only constitute a variant!), but >> instead we gain a beautiful, configurable pdf rendering of Org buffers. >> >> Though I'll admit this does sound intriguing.
Re: [O] An Org-mode LaTeX class?
Marcin Borkowski writes: > Imagine someone wrote a dedicated Org-mode LaTeX class, and the LaTeX > exporter got an option to export to this class. The class modifies > LaTeX so that it supports all Org's elements and objects, and things > like tags, timestamps, checkboxes etc. Moreover, the look of these > elements is configurable on the LaTeX end, and further by means of Org > options. This way, we drop the "generic LaTeX" thing (which is nice for > people sending articles to journals etc. – so my dream should not > replace the current LaTeX exporter, only constitute a variant!), but > instead we gain a beautiful, configurable pdf rendering of Org buffers. > > What do you think? Make sure to have a look at expl3 (and others like e.g. xparse and xstring) package, i.e. upcoming LaTeX 3, before writing this class, because as a programming language the new version seems highly superior, and will most likely result in much cleaner and more readable code. Its well documented, search for 'The LaTeX 3 Interface' and 'The expl3 Package and LaTeX 3 Programming'. -- cheers, Thorsten
Re: [O] An Org-mode LaTeX class?
I think that I don't know if you can suit everybody's need but that is worth a try. For myself, I already wrote a dedicated LaTeX class, because it was too cumbersome to configure org-mode for the different kind of documents I need to produce (not impossible, just too lengthy to duplicate parameters). Hence, I have a class that can output exams, lab sessions texts, course notes and slides with only a couple of options. And I export only subtrees that are configured for this class. it took a bit of time, but it definitely worth it. Fabrice 2014-10-28 2:37 GMT+01:00 Marcin Borkowski : > Hi all, > > I have a dream;-). > > Imagine someone wrote a dedicated Org-mode LaTeX class, and the LaTeX > exporter got an option to export to this class. The class modifies > LaTeX so that it supports all Org's elements and objects, and things > like tags, timestamps, checkboxes etc. Moreover, the look of these > elements is configurable on the LaTeX end, and further by means of Org > options. This way, we drop the "generic LaTeX" thing (which is nice for > people sending articles to journals etc. – so my dream should not > replace the current LaTeX exporter, only constitute a variant!), but > instead we gain a beautiful, configurable pdf rendering of Org buffers. > > What do you think? > > -- > Marcin Borkowski > http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski > Adam Mickiewicz University > > -- Fabrice Popineau - SUPELEC Département Informatique 3, rue Joliot Curie 91192 Gif/Yvette Cedex Tel direct : +33 (0) 169851950 Standard : +33 (0) 169851212 --
[O] An Org-mode LaTeX class?
Hi all, I have a dream;-). Imagine someone wrote a dedicated Org-mode LaTeX class, and the LaTeX exporter got an option to export to this class. The class modifies LaTeX so that it supports all Org's elements and objects, and things like tags, timestamps, checkboxes etc. Moreover, the look of these elements is configurable on the LaTeX end, and further by means of Org options. This way, we drop the "generic LaTeX" thing (which is nice for people sending articles to journals etc. – so my dream should not replace the current LaTeX exporter, only constitute a variant!), but instead we gain a beautiful, configurable pdf rendering of Org buffers. What do you think? -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University
