Re: [O] Exporting text
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:29AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual. Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make I'll try re-installing via git. Ok, I tried making org from git, but I'm still having problems with latex. When I start emacs, I get Symbol's value as variable is void: org-latex-classes NOTE that when I try locate library, I still see the elpa location Library is file ~/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20131118/org.elc Though I don't know how that's even getting in the load path. It's not in my .emacs anywhere. Something else? Is desktop saving this out-of-date load somehow? GNU Emacs 24.3.1 org version 8.2.5g Thanks! -pd -- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com
Re: [O] Exporting text
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:14:28PM +0100, Bastien wrote: Hi Peter, Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes: Well, I don't know how messed up my org-mode installation is, but in addition to my problems with LaTeX, even text exporting fails. When I try C-c C-e t A, I get: Symbol's value as variable is void: org-drawers Any clues what the problem might be? You don't give us a lot to chew on :) Sorry. How did you install Org? Org 7.something came with the OS X emacs 24.3.1 that I installed. In November, I installed org 8 using git. Earlier this month, I installed the 1/4/2014 update using the emacs package installer. I'm guessing that last was what screwed me up. I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual. Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make I'll try re-installing via git. Thanks! -pd -- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com
Re: [O] Exporting text
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:19:09AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:29AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual. Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make I'll try re-installing via git. Ok, I tried making org from git, but I'm still having problems with latex. When I start emacs, I get Symbol's value as variable is void: org-latex-classes NOTE that when I try locate library, I still see the elpa location Ok, so two other changes seem to have me working again: 1) move the elpa directory out of the way, and 2) explicitly load ox-latex Now emacs starts up without errors, and I can export to latex without errors. However, the latex output looks like complete rubbish ... just headers, overlapping each other vertically. Thanks! -pd -- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com
Re: [O] Exporting text
Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes: On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:19:09AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:05:29AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual. Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make I'll try re-installing via git. Ok, I tried making org from git, but I'm still having problems with latex. When I start emacs, I get Symbol's value as variable is void: org-latex-classes NOTE that when I try locate library, I still see the elpa location Ok, so two other changes seem to have me working again: 1) move the elpa directory out of the way, and 2) explicitly load ox-latex Now emacs starts up without errors, and I can export to latex without errors. However, the latex output looks like complete rubbish ... just headers, overlapping each other vertically. Use a minimal .emacs, something like this (adjust path to suit your situation): --8---cut here---start-8--- (add-to-list 'load-path ~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp) (require 'org-loaddefs) --8---cut here---end---8--- Then start emacs with emacs -q -l /path/to/minimal/.emacs Visit an org file and try latex exporting. If that works, then your init file is screwed up. If it doesn't, then your org-mode installation is screwed up. Nick
Re: [O] Exporting text
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:00:52PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote:
Use a minimal .emacs, something like this (adjust path to suit your
situation):
--8---cut here---start-8---
(add-to-list 'load-path ~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp)
(require 'org-loaddefs)
--8---cut here---end---8---
Thanks, Nick,
I had to use this to get all the org-... stuff defined:
--8---cut here---start-8---
(add-to-list 'load-path ~/src/org-mode/lisp)
(add-to-list 'load-path ~/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp)
;;(add-to-list 'load-path ~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp)
(require 'org-loaddefs)
(require 'ox-latex)
(add-to-list 'org-latex-classes
'(org-article
\\documentclass{org-article}
[NO-DEFAULT-PACKAGES]
[PACKAGES]
[EXTRA]
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
(\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s})
(\\paragraph{%s} . \\paragraph*{%s})
(\\subparagraph{%s} . \\subparagraph*{%s})))
--8---cut here---end---8---
Then start emacs with
emacs -q -l /path/to/minimal/.emacs
Visit an org file and try latex exporting. If that works, then
your init file is screwed up. If it doesn't, then your org-mode
installation is screwed up.
The output is still screwed up, in what appears to be the same way.
Interestingly, the .tex file looks ok, at least from a cursory glance,
but most of its contents don't show up on the PDF. I tried compiling
it from the command line, but it didn't understand \hyperset{...} and
perhaps some other things, so I'm assuming org prepends some
definitions.
The org file starts with:
--8---cut here---start-8---
#+STARTUP: showeverything logdone
#+options: num:nil
#+OPTIONS: H:5 num:t toc:t \n:nil @:t ::t |:t ^:nil -:t f:t *:t :t
#+LaTeX_CLASS: org-article
#+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [article,letterpaper,times,12pt,listings-bw,microtype]
--8---cut here---end---8---
The org-article class is from:
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/article-class.html
Thanks,
-pd
--
Peter Davis
The Tech Curmudgeon
www.techcurmudgeon.com
Re: [O] Exporting text
Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes:
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:00:52PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote:
Use a minimal .emacs, something like this (adjust path to suit your
situation):
--8---cut here---start-8---
(add-to-list 'load-path ~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp)
(require 'org-loaddefs)
--8---cut here---end---8---
Thanks, Nick,
I had to use this to get all the org-... stuff defined:
(add-to-list 'load-path ~/src/org-mode/lisp)
(add-to-list 'load-path ~/src/org-mode/contrib/lisp)
;;(add-to-list 'load-path ~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp)
(require 'org-loaddefs)
(require 'ox-latex)
(add-to-list 'org-latex-classes
'(org-article
\\documentclass{org-article}
[NO-DEFAULT-PACKAGES]
[PACKAGES]
[EXTRA]
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
(\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s})
(\\paragraph{%s} . \\paragraph*{%s})
(\\subparagraph{%s} . \\subparagraph*{%s})))
Then start emacs with
emacs -q -l /path/to/minimal/.emacs
Visit an org file and try latex exporting. If that works, then
your init file is screwed up. If it doesn't, then your org-mode
installation is screwed up.
The output is still screwed up, in what appears to be the same way.
Interestingly, the .tex file looks ok, at least from a cursory glance,
but most of its contents don't show up on the PDF. I tried compiling
it from the command line, but it didn't understand \hyperset{...} and
perhaps some other things, so I'm assuming org prepends some
definitions.
AFAIK, the .tex file is (or should be) self-contained. Org has nothing
further to say about it. OTOH, if the org-article class uses special
sauce you may need to install additional latex packages. But before
you do that...
The org file starts with:
#+STARTUP: showeverything logdone
#+options: num:nil
#+OPTIONS: H:5 num:t toc:t \n:nil @:t ::t |:t ^:nil -:t f:t *:t :t
#+LaTeX_CLASS: org-article
#+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [article,letterpaper,times,12pt,listings-bw,microtype]
...what happens if you replace org-article with just plain boring old
article?
The org-article class is from:
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/article-class.html
TL;DR
It may be that the org-article class is busted. Or it may be that it
needs additional latex packages installed.
Nick
Re: [O] Exporting text
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 01:06:53PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote: ...what happens if you replace org-article with just plain boring old article? Yeah, that worked. Unfortunately, though, I didn't get the Times font I was after. Actually, Times was just going to be a stepping stone to what I really want ... a) sans-serif headings and b) Palatino as the base font. I'd welcome any suggestions on how to achieve those. Thanks! -pd -- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com
Re: [O] Exporting text
Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes:
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 01:06:53PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote:
...what happens if you replace org-article with just plain boring old
article?
Yeah, that worked. Unfortunately, though, I didn't get the Times font
I was after.
The fact that it worked however says that the org-article class is
the culprit.
Actually, Times was just going to be a stepping stone to what I really
want ... a) sans-serif headings and b) Palatino as the base font.
I'd welcome any suggestions on how to achieve those.
Why were you using org-article in the first place? Was it supposed to
help with the font choices? Bear in mind that I know nothing about
org-article.
So you have a choice to make: either fix org-article and continue using
it or throw it away and find some other way to do what you want.
For example, all you have to do to get Times is
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{times}
Getting finer control should also be possible using basic latex
techniques. Whether that's a better way to go is of course
debatable: it depends on a lot of variables.
Nick
Re: [O] Exporting text
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 05:09:02PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote:
Why were you using org-article in the first place? Was it supposed to
help with the font choices? Bear in mind that I know nothing about
org-article.
I found org-article when trying to find out how to control fonts,
etc. Basically, I have my own LaTeX template I use when
hand-constructing documents, and I was hoping to be able to use those
same settings when org creates a LaTeX document for me. I thought
org-article would give me that degree of control, but it probably
hasn't been updated since some prior version of org (based on the
variable names), and so is probably broken.
So you have a choice to make: either fix org-article and continue using
it or throw it away and find some other way to do what you want.
For example, all you have to do to get Times is
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{times}
Getting finer control should also be possible using basic latex
techniques. Whether that's a better way to go is of course
debatable: it depends on a lot of variables.
Since most of these settings I'll want to use in *all* my documents,
putting all the parameters in each org file would be pretty
tedious. I'll keep looking for a more elegant solution. I'll be happy
to post here when I find something (that works!)
Thank you!
-pd
--
Peter Davis
The Tech Curmudgeon
www.techcurmudgeon.com
Re: [O] Exporting text
Aloha Peter,
Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes:
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 01:06:53PM -0500, Nick Dokos wrote:
...what happens if you replace org-article with just plain boring old
article?
Yeah, that worked. Unfortunately, though, I didn't get the Times font
I was after.
Actually, Times was just going to be a stepping stone to what I really
want ... a) sans-serif headings and b) Palatino as the base font.
I'd welcome any suggestions on how to achieve those.
The Koma scripts for LaTeX use sans-serif headings. Try this:
#+name: koma-article
#+header: :results silent
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(require 'ox-latex)
(add-to-list 'org-latex-classes
'(koma-article
\\documentclass{scrartcl}
\\usepackage{microtype}
\\usepackage{tgtermes}
\\usepackage[scale=.9]{tgheros}
\\usepackage{tgcursor}
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
(\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s})
(\\paragraph{%s} . \\paragraph*{%s})
(\\subparagraph{%s} . \\subparagraph*{%s})))
#+end_src
This uses the beautiful TeX-Gyre fonts. I haven't checked if they have a
Palatino clone--if so, I'd be inclined to use it. If not, then you'll
want to replace tgtermes with mathpazo and give a bit more leading with
\\linespread{1.05}.
You can put this code block in your local library of Babel and then load
it on a buffer-local basis, like this:
# Local Variables:
# eval: (org-sbe koma-article)
# End:
Beware of org-sbe, which used to be just sbe. You might need something
like this:
# eval: (and (fboundp 'org-sbe) (not (fboundp 'sbe)) (fset 'sbe 'org-sbe))
hth,
Tom
--
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com
Re: [O] Exporting text
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 03:41:29PM -1000, Thomas S. Dye wrote: Aloha Peter, Aloha! The Koma scripts for LaTeX use sans-serif headings. Try this: Excellent! Thank you, Thomas! -pd -- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com
Re: [O] Exporting text
Aloha Peter,
Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes:
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 03:41:29PM -1000, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
Aloha Peter,
Aloha!
The Koma scripts for LaTeX use sans-serif headings. Try this:
Excellent! Thank you, Thomas!
The Tex-Gyre Palatino font is Pagella, \\usepackage{tgpagella}.
All the best,
Tom
--
Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com
[O] Exporting text
Well, I don't know how messed up my org-mode installation is, but in addition to my problems with LaTeX, even text exporting fails. When I try C-c C-e t A, I get: Symbol's value as variable is void: org-drawers Any clues what the problem might be? Thanks! -pd -- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com
Re: [O] Exporting text
Hi Peter, Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes: Well, I don't know how messed up my org-mode installation is, but in addition to my problems with LaTeX, even text exporting fails. When I try C-c C-e t A, I get: Symbol's value as variable is void: org-drawers Any clues what the problem might be? You don't give us a lot to chew on :) How did you install Org? I suggest you install Org through git, as explained in the manual. Don't forget to ~$ make autoloads or just ~$ make HTH, -- Bastien
