[O] How to install latest Org-mode?
Hi list, I'd like to install the new Org-mode (version 8). I'm wondering what method is the best for me. I have Emacs 23 (Ubuntu 12.04), but I plan to (1) upgrade to the newest Ubuntu 13.04 soon and (2) upgrade to Emacs 24 soon (I'll probably uninstall Ubuntu's Emacs and install my own, though rather not from sources, but from a .deb package). So, my requirements would be: * I'd prefer the installed Org to survive the upgrades of Ubuntu and Emacs (of course, I'm going to uninstall Ubuntu's Org-mode 7.8.02). * I'd like the install method to be relatively quick - less than an hour, say, and I'd prefer my Org-mode to be relatively easy to upgrade later. I'm leaning towards cloning the git repo and building Org-mode from sources. From http://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html I can see that what I should do is more or less cd ~/src/ git clone git://orgmode.org/org-mode.git make autoloads echo (add-to-list 'load-path ~/path/to/orgdir/lisp) ~/.emacs make make doc make config make install Is that right? Is using the archive or the package system a better idea in my described case? What does upgrading Org-from-git-repo look like? Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] How to install latest Org-mode?
Marcin Borkowski writes: * I'd like the install method to be relatively quick - less than an hour, say, and I'd prefer my Org-mode to be relatively easy to upgrade later. I'd suggest using ELPA, but if you rather want to go the Git route, read on. I'm leaning towards cloning the git repo and building Org-mode from sources. From http://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html I can see that what I should do is more or less cd ~/src/ git clone git://orgmode.org/org-mode.git make autoloads echo (add-to-list 'load-path ~/path/to/orgdir/lisp) ~/.emacs make make doc make config make install Is that right? No. The most painless setup would be: $ cd ~/src/ $ git clone git://orgmode.org/org-mode.git $ git checkout maint $ make config Check if the installation paths are pointing to where you want them (it should work out-of-the box, but Debian based systems might prefer to have some stuff in different directories), maybe adapt them in local.mk and edit ~/.emacs to require org-loaddefs. From then on always do $ make up2 to pull the latest version, compile and test it and only install if the test is good. Is using the archive or the package system a better idea in my described case? What does upgrading Org-from-git-repo look like? See above. Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ SD adaptation for Waldorf microQ V2.22R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada
Re: [O] How to install latest Org-mode?
Dnia 2013-05-14, o godz. 20:52:06 Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de napisał(a): Marcin Borkowski writes: * I'd like the install method to be relatively quick - less than an hour, say, and I'd prefer my Org-mode to be relatively easy to upgrade later. I'd suggest using ELPA, but if you rather want to go the Git route, read on. Thanks a lot! I took the risk, deleted Emacs 23, installed Emacs 24 and used ELPA. Surprisingly, the transition went almost 100% smoothly (the only problem in my .emacs was something with yasnippet, which could be corrected in 3 minutes!). Now my question is: how do I update Org using ELPA? (I have the latest version from there now, but development continues, I guess;).) Regards, Achim. Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] How to install latest Org-mode?
Marcin Borkowski writes: Now my question is: how do I update Org using ELPA? (I have the latest version from there now, but development continues, I guess;).) You select Manage Emacs Packages from the Options menu (or enter M-x package-list-packages) and then press U. It'll select all upgradeable packages for installation, to be actually installed with i. Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ SD adaptations for KORG EX-800 and Poly-800MkII V0.9: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KorgSDada
Re: [O] How to install latest Org-mode?
Dnia 2013-05-14, o godz. 22:57:55 Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de napisał(a): Marcin Borkowski writes: Now my question is: how do I update Org using ELPA? (I have the latest version from there now, but development continues, I guess;).) You select Manage Emacs Packages from the Options menu (or enter M-x package-list-packages) and then press U. It'll select all upgradeable packages for installation, to be actually installed with i. Thanks a lot, /especially/ for the M-x package-list-packages hint - I've had my menu disabled for ages, at first I started to wonder what menu? There's no such thing in Emacs! ;) Regards, Achim. Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] How to install latest Org-mode?
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl wrote: Hi list, I'd like to install the new Org-mode (version 8). I'm wondering what method is the best for me. I have Emacs 23 (Ubuntu 12.04), but I plan to (1) upgrade to the newest Ubuntu 13.04 soon and (2) upgrade to Emacs 24 soon (I'll probably uninstall Ubuntu's Emacs and install my own, though rather not from sources, but from a .deb package). So, my requirements would be: * I'd prefer the installed Org to survive the upgrades of Ubuntu and Emacs (of course, I'm going to uninstall Ubuntu's Org-mode 7.8.02). * I'd like the install method to be relatively quick - less than an hour, say, and I'd prefer my Org-mode to be relatively easy to upgrade later. My vote is for git. No middleman (with someone pushing an updated package) = less things that can potentially go wrong. I've taken to this for LaTeX as well vs. Arch Linux's distribution. Just my vote, though! Updating takes 5min, and 95% of that is just waiting for git to clone, probably because I primarily use Org at work and can't clone over git protocol behind my firewall. http is slower. John I'm leaning towards cloning the git repo and building Org-mode from sources. From http://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html I can see that what I should do is more or less cd ~/src/ git clone git://orgmode.org/org-mode.git make autoloads echo (add-to-list 'load-path ~/path/to/orgdir/lisp) ~/.emacs make make doc make config make install Is that right? Is using the archive or the package system a better idea in my described case? What does upgrading Org-from-git-repo look like? Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] How to install latest Org-mode?
Dnia 2013-05-14, o godz. 16:38:08 John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com napisał(a): On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl wrote: Hi list, I'd like to install the new Org-mode (version 8). I'm wondering what method is the best for me. I have Emacs 23 (Ubuntu 12.04), but I plan to (1) upgrade to the newest Ubuntu 13.04 soon and (2) upgrade to Emacs 24 soon (I'll probably uninstall Ubuntu's Emacs and install my own, though rather not from sources, but from a .deb package). So, my requirements would be: * I'd prefer the installed Org to survive the upgrades of Ubuntu and Emacs (of course, I'm going to uninstall Ubuntu's Org-mode 7.8.02). * I'd like the install method to be relatively quick - less than an hour, say, and I'd prefer my Org-mode to be relatively easy to upgrade later. My vote is for git. No middleman (with someone pushing an updated package) = less things that can potentially go wrong. I've taken to this for LaTeX as well vs. Arch Linux's distribution. Just my vote, though! Updating takes 5min, and 95% of that is just waiting for git to clone, probably because I primarily use Org at work and can't clone over git protocol behind my firewall. http is slower. Too late;). Though I generally agree. And for LaTeX: Ubuntu packages are usually quite old. I usually (once a year) install TeXlive from an installation dvd (I receive it by mail each year as a users' group member;)). And once a year is way too rarely for ConTeXt (another TeX-based document preparation system, with many things /much/ better than LaTeX), which is updated more or less once a month or so. John Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] How to install latest Org-mode?
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl wrote: Dnia 2013-05-14, o godz. 16:38:08 John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com napisał(a): On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl wrote: Hi list, I'd like to install the new Org-mode (version 8). I'm wondering what method is the best for me. I have Emacs 23 (Ubuntu 12.04), but I plan to (1) upgrade to the newest Ubuntu 13.04 soon and (2) upgrade to Emacs 24 soon (I'll probably uninstall Ubuntu's Emacs and install my own, though rather not from sources, but from a .deb package). So, my requirements would be: * I'd prefer the installed Org to survive the upgrades of Ubuntu and Emacs (of course, I'm going to uninstall Ubuntu's Org-mode 7.8.02). * I'd like the install method to be relatively quick - less than an hour, say, and I'd prefer my Org-mode to be relatively easy to upgrade later. My vote is for git. No middleman (with someone pushing an updated package) = less things that can potentially go wrong. I've taken to this for LaTeX as well vs. Arch Linux's distribution. Just my vote, though! Updating takes 5min, and 95% of that is just waiting for git to clone, probably because I primarily use Org at work and can't clone over git protocol behind my firewall. http is slower. Too late;). Though I generally agree. And for LaTeX: Ubuntu packages are usually quite old. I usually (once a year) install TeXlive from an installation dvd (I receive it by mail each year as a users' group member;)). And once a year is way too rarely for ConTeXt (another TeX-based document preparation system, with many things /much/ better than LaTeX), which is updated more or less once a month or so. I figured, but wanted to chime in anyway :) I've moved to default TexLive, which has been surprisingly easy after the initial install. Good luck with ELPA, and I won't hold it against you! John John Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University
Re: [O] How to install latest Org-mode?
Dnia 2013-05-14, o godz. 17:30:30 John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com napisał(a): Too late;). Though I generally agree. And for LaTeX: Ubuntu packages are usually quite old. I usually (once a year) install TeXlive from an installation dvd (I receive it by mail each year as a users' group member;)). And once a year is way too rarely for ConTeXt (another TeX-based document preparation system, with many things /much/ better than LaTeX), which is updated more or less once a month or so. I figured, but wanted to chime in anyway :) I've moved to default TexLive, which has been surprisingly easy after the initial install. Yes. And one of the nice things (from the standpoint of a LaTeX package/class developer) is that you can download, install and easily switch between different (older and newer) versions of TeXlive. Good luck with ELPA, and I won't hold it against you! Thanks:)! John Regards, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University
