Re: [O] Ignore pattern when syncing Org-mode files between hosts
* Thierry Banel wrote: > Le 28/12/2016 16:42, Karl Voit a écrit : >> Hi! >> >> I wonder how others are handling synchronization ignore patterns >> between different hosts. >> >> ... >> >> Currently, I am evaluating Syncthing[0] which looks very good so >> far. It is a game-changer to be because similar to Dropbox[1], it >> synchronizes in background on any change within 60s (by default). >> Thus, resulting in symlinks and tempfiles transferred as well. > > Syncthing supports ignore patterns. I know. This was not the reason for my posting ;-) I want to know what files YOU are ignoring considering the thoughts I mentioned in my original posting. -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs < https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github
Re: [O] Ignore pattern when syncing Org-mode files between hosts
Le 28/12/2016 16:42, Karl Voit a écrit : > Hi! > > I wonder how others are handling synchronization ignore patterns > between different hosts. > > ... > > Currently, I am evaluating Syncthing[0] which looks very good so > far. It is a game-changer to be because similar to Dropbox[1], it > synchronizes in background on any change within 60s (by default). > Thus, resulting in symlinks and tempfiles transferred as well. > > Syncthing supports ignore patterns. https://docs.syncthing.net/users/ignoring.html On the web interface http://localhost:8080/ there is a button "Ignore Patterns" under "Advanced settings"
Re: [O] Ignore pattern when syncing Org-mode files between hosts
Hi Skip, * Skip Collins wrote: > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Karl Voit wrote: >> I wonder how others are handling synchronization ignore patterns >> between different hosts. > > Perhaps you should consider git annex. It is extremely flexible about > choosing which file to sync. I know git-annex. It is very powerful, yes. BTDT. I don't want that: I don't want to have a central server. I don't want versioning on all files. I doubt the performance and efficiency with binaries in git. I consider myself rather advanced in IT but the complexity of git-annex is a bit scary to me. YMMV and this is OK. Syncthing seems to be exactly the tool of choice for me for now: very simple to set up, nice and simple clients for every important platform[1] and yet powerful enough in case I need anything advanced. BUT: My email was not about «what is a sync tool that allows for complex ignore patterns» but rather «how are you using your ignore patterns with Org-mode files to avoid issues». So: do you sync everything of your Org-mode directory? If not: what are you ignoring? What is your experience especially when changing hosts? And the question which sums up probably all the related issues I can think of by now: How do you sync Org-mode files, avoid temp data being synced while preventing unsaved data lost. [1] Except iOS but I wrote «important» on purpose as you might have noticed ;-) -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs < https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github
Re: [O] Ignore pattern when syncing Org-mode files between hosts
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Karl Voit wrote: > I wonder how others are handling synchronization ignore patterns > between different hosts. Perhaps you should consider git annex. It is extremely flexible about choosing which file to sync. It works cross-platform and is highly configurable. It allows manual syncing or automatic syncing (via 'git annex assistant'). It uses all the power of git to ensure the safety and availability of your files, including the ability to use strong encryption if desired.
[O] Ignore pattern when syncing Org-mode files between hosts
Hi! I wonder how others are handling synchronization ignore patterns between different hosts. In particular, I do have "issues" with temporary files of Emacs + Org-mode like «.#myfile.org» or «#myfile.org#». The first one is a symlink which does not bother me as long as I keep quitting my Emacs instances when leaving a host and as long as Windows sync does not result in an error because of not properly handling symlinks. So lets forget about them until someone points me to a potential issue. The latter one is an autosave file which takes as much space as the original file except for the changes in between. This is causing many MBs of unnecessary synchronization data. So far, I was using unison file synchronizer which I invoked manually before shutting down the host I was working with. Therefore there were no temp files left since I had to save and quit Emacs. A clean status of my Org-mode files was transferred, no unwanted temp files synced. Currently, I am evaluating Syncthing[0] which looks very good so far. It is a game-changer to be because similar to Dropbox[1], it synchronizes in background on any change within 60s (by default). Thus, resulting in symlinks and tempfiles transferred as well. On the one hand side, I clearly don't want those temp files synchronized to other hosts because my Org-mode files tend to get very large[2]. A short test showed that before and after invoking save-some-buffers() autosave files of about 10MB of data got deleted. This data was transferred beforehand resulting in lots of sync overhead I want to avoid. On the other hand side, I do want those temp files synced because they contain unsaved changes I'd lose when starting to work in a different host before saving/quitting Emacs. I had mixed results when I tried real-auto-save[3] a year ago. This would be a method to make sure that there are no unsaved changes older than xx seconds. Somehow, this was not working to my satisfaction so I had to disable it again. So how do you handle ignore patterns with sync tools like Dropbox or Syncthing? [0] https://syncthing.net/ [1] I'll never trust my (unencrypted) Org-mode files be placed in the public cloud like Dropbox or similar. [2] Several of my Org-mode files holds a couple of MBs of data. [3] from https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/AutoSave - seems to be down -- mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode: > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs < https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github
