Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-20 Thread John Hendy
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com wrote: Hi, My user input is partially to blame for this, I think. See toward the end of this thread: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/69794 I was under the impression that the behavior of M-RET had changed,

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-20 Thread John Hendy
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:54 AM, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com wrote: Hi, My user input is partially to blame for this, I think. See toward the end of this thread:

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-20 Thread Matt Lundin
John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com wrote: I've been following this thread and there has been some great discussion about future plans for re-write and context-sensitive functionality. In the mean time, can we revert the

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-20 Thread John Hendy
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com wrote: I've been following this thread and there has been some great discussion about future plans for re-write

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-17 Thread Carsten Dominik
On 16.5.2013, at 21:11, Jason F. McBrayer jmcb...@carcosa.net wrote: Bastien b...@gnu.org writes: Thanks a lot Samuel for writing this. Just a quick note to tell you that this discussion *is* important, and well read, as we plan to rewrite those functions. Presenting features wrt

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-17 Thread Carsten Dominik
Hi everyone, yes, thanks for making this table, Samuel. I think the functionality is a bit overkill, in particular the implementation with pressing M-RET twice for special functionality. This becomes too confusing, I think. The elementary function of M-RET is continue in the current

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-17 Thread Jason F. McBrayer
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On 16.5.2013, at 21:11, Jason F. McBrayer jmcb...@carcosa.net wrote: Another thing to take into account in the rewrite is doing the right thing even when electric-indent-mode or electric-layout-mode are enabled. The current implementation is

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-17 Thread Rick Frankel
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 03:26:09PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote: There was discussion about `C-c *'. For me the main application of this command it to turn an item into a headline, and to turn *several* lines into a series of headline (by selecting the lines first) - this is a very frequent

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-16 Thread Bastien
Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: |-+--++--| | command | context | pos| action | |-+--++--| | c-ret | any

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-16 Thread Daniel Bausch
Hi! I still think it's pretty important to have an option for creating a new headline *below* all the contents of the current subtree -- what C-RET used to do. I like to second, that there needs to be a short key binding to insert a new headline below the current entry when the context is in

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-16 Thread Detlef Steuer
On Thu, 16 May 2013 09:22:30 +0200 Daniel Bausch danielbau...@gmx.de wrote: Hi! I still think it's pretty important to have an option for creating a new headline *below* all the contents of the current subtree -- what C-RET used to do. I like to second, that there needs to be a short

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-16 Thread Miro Bezjak
Once this gets implemented I'd really like to see the same table in org manual. It's a really good summary. Regards, Miro On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes:

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-16 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: Hi Eric, On 5/15/13, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: I still think it's pretty important to have an option for creating a new headline *below* all the contents of the current subtree -- what C-RET used to do. This might be a good

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-16 Thread Rick Frankel
On 2013-05-15 23:17, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: Also, C-RET and M-RET currently seem to be identical? I still think it's pretty important to have an option for creating a new headline *below* all the contents of the current subtree -- what C-RET used to

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-16 Thread Eric S Fraga
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: How about this? IMO this would be ideal. - M-RET is for the current context - C-RET is for a new context [...] I still think it's pretty important to have an option for creating a new headline

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-16 Thread Jason F. McBrayer
Bastien b...@gnu.org writes: Thanks a lot Samuel for writing this. Just a quick note to tell you that this discussion *is* important, and well read, as we plan to rewrite those functions. Presenting features wrt contexts so clearly is great -- thanks for doing this. Another thing to take

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-15 Thread Christian Moe
Hi, My user input is partially to blame for this, I think. See toward the end of this thread: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/69794 I was under the impression that the behavior of M-RET had changed, but I may have given a wrong or incomplete description of the old behavior I

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-15 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com writes: Hi, My user input is partially to blame for this, I think. See toward the end of this thread: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/69749 I was under the impression that the behavior of M-RET had changed, but I may have given a wrong or

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-15 Thread Christian Moe
Eric Abrahamsen writes: I don't see why `org-ctrl-c-star' -- `org-toggle-heading' isn't enough for creating headlines out of existing text. Fair point, but I find it useful to have a simpler and speedier combination, redundant or not. For instance, I often use Org to make structured

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-15 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com writes: Eric Abrahamsen writes: I don't see why `org-ctrl-c-star' -- `org-toggle-heading' isn't enough for creating headlines out of existing text. Fair point, but I find it useful to have a simpler and speedier combination, redundant or not. For

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-15 Thread Samuel Wales
How about this? IMO this would be ideal. - M-RET is for the current context - C-RET is for a new context |-+--++--| | command | context | pos| action |

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-15 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: How about this? IMO this would be ideal. - M-RET is for the current context - C-RET is for a new context |-+--++--| | command | context | pos| action

Re: [O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-15 Thread Samuel Wales
Hi Eric, On 5/15/13, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote: I still think it's pretty important to have an option for creating a new headline *below* all the contents of the current subtree -- what C-RET used to do. This might be a good thing to make a user preference. Also, the

[O] M-RET and C-RET turn current line of text into a heading?

2013-05-14 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
For the past couple of weeks I'm finding that both M-RET and C-RET turn the line under point into a heading, instead of inserting a new heading elsewhere. This happens with `org-M-RET-may-split-line' set to anything. So this: #+begin_src org * Chapter One :PROPERTIES: :some_prop: t :END: In