Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-28 Thread Alan Schmitt
On 2015-05-18 23:42, Marcin Borkowski mb...@mbork.pl writes: On 2015-04-24, at 08:19, Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org wrote: I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt with.

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-19 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: Then it cannot even replace inlinetasks. Is that a goal? It should be. We don't need another syntax for something that does almost the same thing as an inlinetask but, yet, isn't one. Inline todo/inlinetasks,

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: But note that I am more interested in an inline noting/todo functionality as opposed to annotation functionality. Inline noting is Text[@:1][@] * Annotations [@:1:] My note. My guess would be that most notes are short. For

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Fine whit me. For that I I have inlinetasks. Then it cannot even replace inlinetasks. The tags. They are notes related to say a sentence, so you put a note at the end of a sentence. Spatial TODOs. I still don't get it, sorry. Its virtues are compactness,

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: Fine whit me. For that I I have inlinetasks. Then it cannot even replace inlinetasks. Is that a goal? Its virtues are compactness, being similar to a list, being C-k friendly, and, IMO, more intuitive. But, IMO, totally useless for general

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Rasmus
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes: On Monday, 18 May 2015 at 15:16, Rasmus wrote: Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: I don't know what is a TODO functionality since you suggest to not make it appear in the agenda. E.g. Sentence about BAR [TODO: add reference to FOO and check

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: My guess would be that most notes are short. For such notes, but not necessarily for longer notes, [@:NOTE] would be more convenient. This is very limited: you cannot write two paragraphs in your note. Though I don't know what the @ signifies. AnnoTate? I

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Monday, 18 May 2015 at 15:16, Rasmus wrote: Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: [...] I don't know what is a TODO functionality since you suggest to not make it appear in the agenda. E.g. Sentence about BAR [TODO: add reference to FOO and check BAZ]. I don't need that in my

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: My guess would be that most notes are short. For such notes, but not necessarily for longer notes, [@:NOTE] would be more convenient. This is very limited: you cannot write two paragraphs in your note. Fine whit me. For that I I have

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Eric S Fraga
Hi all, Actually, having pondered this whole annotation and task business while heading home after work on the train, I think all I would like is a simple annotation scheme with no need for tasks etc. We have plenty of support for tasks with headlines. What we don't have is simple annotations.

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-04-24, at 08:19, Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org wrote: I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt with. What could be an the easy way of doing it? Well, it

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes: On Monday, 18 May 2015 at 15:16, Rasmus wrote: Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: I don't know what is a TODO functionality since you suggest to not make it appear in the agenda. E.g. Sentence about BAR [TODO:

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: Hello, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: We're just talking about annotations-plus-metadata here, right? Not actual in-text TODOs? I'm not convinced in-text TODOs would be interesting, because they would make building the

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-18 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: While we have opening and closing tags for formatting (e.g. bold), I dislike the above. It seems like asking for trouble; it would seem one could easily loose track and delete one end of the tag and not the other. IOW: [@:ID1]... [@:ID2]...[@]...[@] seems like

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-08 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: We're just talking about annotations-plus-metadata here, right? Not actual in-text TODOs? I'm not convinced in-text TODOs would be interesting, because they would make building the agenda an order of magnitude slower. My concerns about

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-05-03 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Hi, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: We're just talking about annotations-plus-metadata here, right? Not actual in-text TODOs? I don't know. From what I can tell, rasmus seems to be proposing an in-text TODO, I mainly extrapolated from your

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-30 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: We're just talking about annotations-plus-metadata here, right? Not actual in-text TODOs? I don't know. From what I can tell, rasmus seems to be proposing an in-text TODO, I mainly extrapolated from your example. Further, I extrapolated

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-30 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Thursday, 30 Apr 2015 at 11:58, Rasmus wrote: [...] I've definitely wanted some sort of a track changes equivalent in Org, but we'd want to be careful about this. Isn't this the job of VC? I'm not sure how we can concisely represent all the needed metadata? Something like I'm 100%

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-30 Thread John Kitchin
Rasmus writes: Hi, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: We're just talking about annotations-plus-metadata here, right? Not actual in-text TODOs? I don't know. From what I can tell, rasmus seems to be proposing an in-text TODO, I mainly extrapolated from your example.

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: I'm copying Nicolas -- Nicolas, is there a process for inclusion in contrib? Would this be eligible? I'll just stick it in Elpa, otherwise. Any package is eligible. However, contrib/ is from pre-package.el days. Nowadays, I tend to

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Eric Abrahamsen writes: John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Hi Eric, I added some functions in the attachment. they colorize the comments, add an org-comment menu to the org-menu, and some functions for pop to and delete comments from

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Rasmus
Hi Eric, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: *None* of the complexity is in the format itself: if you unloaded org-comment, the comment links would be perfectly human-readable. All of the complexity is in helper functions for manipulating them. I suppose it would be possible to

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Would this be eligible? Not that my .02€ are worth much, but I think the idea of inline notes is good, but I don't think it should be done using links. See e.g. the discussion on citation which introduced a

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: Hello, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: I'm copying Nicolas -- Nicolas, is there a process for inclusion in contrib? Would this be eligible? I'll just stick it in Elpa, otherwise. Any package is eligible. However, contrib/

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Just to be clear, you think it fits into the category of incubation-prior-to-core? I think inlinetasks/comments that are actually *inline* would be nice! If anyone thinks that this mechanism warrants actual new Org syntax, I'd be happy to

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Rasmus
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Would this be eligible? Not that my .02€ are worth much, but I think the idea of inline notes is good, but I don't think it should be done using links. See e.g. the discussion on citation which introduced a [cite:⋯] command. A [comment:⋯]

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Yup, annotation mechanism is about right. Just to be clear, you think it fits into the category of incubation-prior-to-core? I think so. If anyone thinks that this mechanism warrants actual new Org syntax, I'd be happy to work on implementing

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
Hello all, I have been following this whole thread with great interest, having posted very early on the use of inline tasks as a solution for the OP. I use inline tasks a lot for both annotations and for TODO tasks when writing papers. I like the link syntax proposed but would much prefer

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread John Kitchin
I think it could benefit from a dedicated syntax in the following context: There are different types of annotation you might like, e.g. delete, insert, replace, comment (I am drawing from ideas of annotations in PDF, and the idea of track changes). In multi-author documents you might want to know

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread John Kitchin
Eric Abrahamsen writes: Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Would this be eligible? Not that my .02€ are worth much, but I think the idea of inline notes is good, but I don't think it should be done using links. See e.g. the discussion on

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread John Kitchin
Eric S Fraga writes: Hello all, I have been following this whole thread with great interest, having posted very early on the use of inline tasks as a solution for the OP. I use inline tasks a lot for both annotations and for TODO tasks when writing papers. I like the link syntax proposed

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday, 29 Apr 2015 at 20:34, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: [...] Yup, annotation mechanism is about right. Just to be clear, you think it fits into the category of incubation-prior-to-core? [...] Now I wish we'd named it org-annotate. Is it too late? Simple refactoring of the code? I

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread John Kitchin
Rasmus writes: Hi Eric, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: *None* of the complexity is in the format itself: if you unloaded org-comment, the comment links would be perfectly human-readable. All of the complexity is in helper functions for manipulating them. I suppose it

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday, 29 Apr 2015 at 10:00, John Kitchin wrote: [...] There is in org-comment a command `org-comment-display-comments' which will generate a buffer you can see all the comments in, and from that pop to a comment, delete it, etc... Ah, thanks. That's good. -- : Eric S Fraga

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr writes: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Yup, annotation mechanism is about right. Just to be clear, you think it fits into the category of incubation-prior-to-core? I think so. If anyone thinks that this mechanism warrants actual new

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes: Hi, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Just to be clear, you think it fits into the category of incubation-prior-to-core? I think inlinetasks/comments that are actually *inline* would be nice! If anyone thinks that this mechanism warrants actual

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-29 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes: On Wednesday, 29 Apr 2015 at 20:34, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: [...] Yup, annotation mechanism is about right. Just to be clear, you think it fits into the category of incubation-prior-to-core? [...] Now I wish we'd named it org-annotate. Is it too

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-28 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Hi Eric, I added some functions in the attachment. they colorize the comments, add an org-comment menu to the org-menu, and some functions for pop to and delete comments from the list mode, and a hydra for commands to insert comments. Do you want

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-28 Thread John Kitchin
Eric Abrahamsen writes: John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Hi Eric, I added some functions in the attachment. they colorize the comments, add an org-comment menu to the org-menu, and some functions for pop to and delete comments from the list mode, and a hydra for commands to

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread John Kitchin
This might be a case where having a link type that supports attributes would come in handy. Then you could use these like PDF comments. In the list of PDF comments in Adobe Acrobat for example, there is a checkbox you can use to check them off when you are done with one. Of course, you have to

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-04-27, at 12:27, John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: This might be a case where having a link type that supports attributes would come in handy. Then you could use these like PDF comments. In the list of PDF comments in Adobe Acrobat for example, there is a checkbox you can

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Very nice start! - make comment links a different color/face (e.g. https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/blob/master/org-ref.el#L360) Ah, nice -- too bad there's no built-in way to specify a face for link types. This looks like it will do nicely,

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Marcin Borkowski mb...@mbork.pl writes: On 2015-04-27, at 12:27, John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: This might be a case where having a link type that supports attributes would come in handy. Then you could use these like PDF comments. In the list of PDF comments in Adobe Acrobat

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Emacs anticipated this need and can help formulate comments specifically for the NSA :) https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Mail-Amusements.html Well that's pretty amazing. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Eric Abrahamsen

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread John Kitchin
Emacs anticipated this need and can help formulate comments specifically for the NSA :) https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Mail-Amusements.html John --- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread John Kitchin
Hi Eric, I added some functions in the attachment. they colorize the comments, add an org-comment menu to the org-menu, and some functions for pop to and delete comments from the list mode, and a hydra for commands to insert comments. Do you want to get this up on github to facilitate developing

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-27 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Hi Eric, I added some functions in the attachment. they colorize the comments, add an org-comment menu to the org-menu, and some functions for pop to and delete comments from the list mode, and a hydra for commands to insert comments. Do you want

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-26 Thread John Kitchin
Very nice start! - make comment links a different color/face (e.g. https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/blob/master/org-ref.el#L360) otherwise, I think item 4 is the most important one on the todo list. We are writing lots of papers this year, so this will be a really helpful tool! Eric

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-25 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes: On 25-Apr-2015, at 6:22 am, John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Inspired by this conversation, I hacked up this functional comment link:

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-25 Thread Eric S Fraga
John, thanks for this. Very nice. And I can use my preferred LaTeX annotation with it easily. -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.50.1, Org release_8.3beta-1062-gce4e64

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-25 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes: On 25-Apr-2015, at 6:22 am, John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Inspired by this conversation, I hacked up this functional comment link:

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes: I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt with. What could be an the easy way of doing it? Vikas Bookmarks? hth, Tom -- Thomas

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 24 Apr 2015 at 09:58, Marcin Borkowski wrote: [...] Why use footnotes when you can use todonotes? Good question! It's personal preference: I prefer footnotes as I am often using narrow margins and anything more than a boxed footnote number is too much... However, it is trivial to

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-04-24, at 09:40, Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: On Friday, 24 Apr 2015 at 11:49, Vikas Rawal wrote: I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt with. What could be an

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread John Kitchin
Inspired by this conversation, I hacked up this functional comment link: http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2015/04/24/Commenting-in-org-files/ It has a custom link type that exports in html and latex, and when you click on it, it asks if you want to delete the comment. John

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Inspired by this conversation, I hacked up this functional comment link: http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2015/04/24/Commenting-in-org-files/ It has a custom link type that exports in html and latex, and when you click on it, it asks if

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Vikas Rawal
On 25-Apr-2015, at 6:22 am, John Kitchin jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Inspired by this conversation, I hacked up this functional comment link: http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2015/04/24/Commenting-in-org-files/

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes: I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt with. What could be an the easy way of doing it? I use footnotes for this sort of

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes: I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt with. What could be an the easy way of

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Glyn Millington
Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes: I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt with. What could be an the easy way of doing it? Just insert something like '' [1]at

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Fabrice Niessen
Vikas Rawal wrote: I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt with. What could be an the easy way of doing it? Inserting `XXX' which are automatically highlighted in red? See Highlight

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Friday, 24 Apr 2015 at 11:49, Vikas Rawal wrote: I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt with. What could be an the easy way of doing it? I use inline tasks for this. If you are

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-04-24, at 08:42, Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com wrote: Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org writes: I am revising a long book manuscript, and would like to mark parts of text (not just the headlines) just to remind myself that these need to be dealt with. What could be an the

Re: [O] Marking/highlighting text temporarily

2015-04-24 Thread Vikas Rawal
[...] Why use footnotes when you can use todonotes? Good question! It's personal preference: I prefer footnotes as I am often using narrow margins and anything more than a boxed footnote number is too much... However, it is trivial to change the export template to use todonotes if