Re: [O] Mindwave Emacs. EEG reading and Data gathering in an org-mode buffer.

2012-09-05 Thread Torsten Wagner
Hi Jonathan,

does that mean we can mark the point

* TODO org-mode should read my mind

from the requested org-mode feature list ;)

I think your example is great but frighten to be very specific to
really get attention.
However, it might make a nice example for presentations etc.
Similar like the emacs coffee maker stuff.

On the other hand it might be very interesting to get a general idea
how to add data from devices to org-mode. Many measurement devices
utilize USB, RS232 or even network interfaces to communicate (beside
of the industrial standards). It would be great to have infos how e.g.
to read data from a serial port and add them to org-mode. The
internet-famous Arduino board could serve as an example. Communication
would be even more awesome.

Once I tried to use org-babel talking to a device connected via USB
(emulated serial port). The protocol was rather simple but could be
lengthy to type in over and over again.  I was hopping to define babel
blocks which serve as macro containers and combine them into bigger
scripts. However, this did not work as well, I guess partially because
of the bridge of org-shell-terminal-command

If you could help to describe e.g. a raw communication port for babel
that might be interesting.

#+begin_src: raw :port  /dev/tty1 :serpar 115200,8,1,N :results output
command
command
command
command
#+end_src
#+result
response
response
response
response

With the right set of parameters one could fetch real world data
directly into org-mode files.

Best regards

Torsten



On 5 September 2012 02:06, Jonathan Arkell jonath...@criticalmass.com wrote:
 Hi Orgers!

 I recently picked up a Neruosky Mindwave, a consumer level EEG device (it
 reads brainwaves).  Unfortunately, the software bundle doesn't include a
 way to log the EEG levels.  Since I am fairly decent at Elisp, I thought I
 would write a little library to interface with the mindwave, and store the
 results.  Naturally I thought of using an org-mode buffer for this.

 So I present, mindwave-emacs:


 Mindwave-emacs.el really is just a low-level interface for emacs.  Inside
 of the org file are 2 examples (actually, fully working programs) that
 show you how to work with it.

   - gather-into-org.el :: allows you to write data into an org-mode file
   - solarized-mind.el  :: uses the eSense Attention and Meditation
 measurements to provide feedback to the user on their brian state.

 I am also working on a lower-level serial/binary connection to retrieve
 data from the mindwave to help facilitate raw EEG logging.

 I don't know if this is going to be useful to anyone, but I figured some
 people may be interested.

 Cheers!
 __


 Jonathan Arkell
 Sr. Developer
 Inspired By Drum  Bass, Scheme, Kawaii

 p. 403.206.4377
 1011 9th Ave SE, Suite 300

 Calgary, AB, Canada T2G 0Y4

 jonath...@criticalmass.com
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Re: [O] Mindwave Emacs. EEG reading and Data gathering in an org-mode buffer.

2012-09-05 Thread joakim
Jonathan Arkell jonath...@criticalmass.com writes:

 Hi Orgers!

 I recently picked up a Neruosky Mindwave, a consumer level EEG device (it
 reads brainwaves).  Unfortunately, the software bundle doesn't include a
 way to log the EEG levels.  Since I am fairly decent at Elisp, I thought I
 would write a little library to interface with the mindwave, and store the
 results.  Naturally I thought of using an org-mode buffer for this.

 So I present, mindwave-emacs:
 https://raw.github.com/jonnay/emagicians-starter-kit/master/extra/mindwave-emacs.org

 Mindwave-emacs.el really is just a low-level interface for emacs.  Inside
 of the org file are 2 examples (actually, fully working programs) that
 show you how to work with it.

   - gather-into-org.el :: allows you to write data into an org-mode file
   - solarized-mind.el  :: uses the eSense Attention and Meditation
 measurements to provide feedback to the user on their brian state.

 I am also working on a lower-level serial/binary connection to retrieve
 data from the mindwave to help facilitate raw EEG logging.

 I don't know if this is going to be useful to anyone, but I figured some
 people may be interested.

Cool!

I did some Neurosky Mindset integration for my zen.el package:
https://github.com/jave/zen-mode

Maybe I can integrate your package and mine, I'll have a look!



 Cheers!
 __


 Jonathan Arkell
 Sr. Developer
 Inspired By Drum  Bass, Scheme, Kawaii

 p. 403.206.4377
 1011 9th Ave SE, Suite 300

 Calgary, AB, Canada T2G 0Y4

 jonath...@criticalmass.com
 criticalmass.com






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Re: [O] Mindwave Emacs. EEG reading and Data gathering in an org-mode buffer.

2012-09-05 Thread Kyle Machulis
Something this thread might be interested in. I proposed a project a
couple of years ago called the Quantified Coder, basically looking at
hooking as many biometrics as possible into emacs. There's a small
presentation on it at

http://www.openyou.org/2011/05/13/the-quantified-coder/

Unfortunately it never got off the ground due to lots of reasons, but
I'd still love to get it going sometime. If anyone needs help with
getting devices talking (whether they have open drivers or not :) ),
that's pretty much what I do. :D

I still wonder if org is the right medium for this. Most of the
devices are going to give you a TON of data (the neurosky raw stream
is ~500hz update, emotiv is ~128hz, etc...). Pedometers and blood
pressure monitors that do one-time large dumps might be somewhat more
feasible.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 6:45 AM,  joa...@verona.se wrote:
 Jonathan Arkell jonath...@criticalmass.com writes:

 Hi Orgers!

 I recently picked up a Neruosky Mindwave, a consumer level EEG device (it
 reads brainwaves).  Unfortunately, the software bundle doesn't include a
 way to log the EEG levels.  Since I am fairly decent at Elisp, I thought I
 would write a little library to interface with the mindwave, and store the
 results.  Naturally I thought of using an org-mode buffer for this.

 So I present, mindwave-emacs:
 https://raw.github.com/jonnay/emagicians-starter-kit/master/extra/mindwave-emacs.org

 Mindwave-emacs.el really is just a low-level interface for emacs.  Inside
 of the org file are 2 examples (actually, fully working programs) that
 show you how to work with it.

   - gather-into-org.el :: allows you to write data into an org-mode file
   - solarized-mind.el  :: uses the eSense Attention and Meditation
 measurements to provide feedback to the user on their brian state.

 I am also working on a lower-level serial/binary connection to retrieve
 data from the mindwave to help facilitate raw EEG logging.

 I don't know if this is going to be useful to anyone, but I figured some
 people may be interested.

 Cool!

 I did some Neurosky Mindset integration for my zen.el package:
 https://github.com/jave/zen-mode

 Maybe I can integrate your package and mine, I'll have a look!



 Cheers!
 __


 Jonathan Arkell
 Sr. Developer
 Inspired By Drum  Bass, Scheme, Kawaii

 p. 403.206.4377
 1011 9th Ave SE, Suite 300

 Calgary, AB, Canada T2G 0Y4

 jonath...@criticalmass.com
 criticalmass.com






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Re: [O] Mindwave Emacs. EEG reading and Data gathering in an org-mode buffer.

2012-09-05 Thread Nick Dokos
Kyle Machulis k...@nonpolynomial.com wrote:

 I still wonder if org is the right medium for this. Most of the
 devices are going to give you a TON of data (the neurosky raw stream
 is ~500hz update, emotiv is ~128hz, etc...). Pedometers and blood
 pressure monitors that do one-time large dumps might be somewhat more
 feasible.
 

You can use a process that samples for a given amount of time and
produces a summary of the results (or perhaps a table, which then can
be summarized using babel/calc/R/etc.) That might be better suited to org's
MO.

Nick



Re: [O] Mindwave Emacs. EEG reading and Data gathering in an org-mode buffer.

2012-09-05 Thread Jonathan Arkell
Hey Kyle

Right now I am working with the course-grained (1/sec) data sets from the
Mindwave.  They provide their eSense(tm) measurements as well as the
eegPower, which seems to give a general overview of the different
brainwave levels in relation to each-other (but not much else).  This
actually works out really well, because you can dump the data to an org
table, and then as Nick said, use babel/calc/R to dow hat you need to do
with it.  There is a function inside of the data-gathering package that
handles that pretty nicely (albeit slowly) with calc.

Of course, this is all very course grained, but it is working nicely for
my current experiments!

My intention is to eventually connect to the lower level serial Neurosky
interface for the raw EEG wave data with emacs, and send the both the EEG
data and a timestamp straight to a file.  This might be a blind alley
however.

The idea of quantified coding sounds awesome!  The question is, how does
one marry up a line of code, with a particular neurological state,
especially since a given line of code isn't a static entity that one can
easily refer to?


__


Jonathan Arkell
Sr. Developer
Inspired By Drum  Bass, Scheme, Kawaii

p. 403.206.4377
1011 9th Ave SE, Suite 300

Calgary, AB, Canada T2G 0Y4

jonath...@criticalmass.com
criticalmass.com









On 5/09/12 12:30 PM, Kyle Machulis k...@nonpolynomial.com wrote:

Something this thread might be interested in. I proposed a project a
couple of years ago called the Quantified Coder, basically looking at
hooking as many biometrics as possible into emacs. There's a small
presentation on it at

http://www.openyou.org/2011/05/13/the-quantified-coder/

Unfortunately it never got off the ground due to lots of reasons, but
I'd still love to get it going sometime. If anyone needs help with
getting devices talking (whether they have open drivers or not :) ),
that's pretty much what I do. :D

I still wonder if org is the right medium for this. Most of the
devices are going to give you a TON of data (the neurosky raw stream
is ~500hz update, emotiv is ~128hz, etc...). Pedometers and blood
pressure monitors that do one-time large dumps might be somewhat more
feasible.


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[O] Mindwave Emacs. EEG reading and Data gathering in an org-mode buffer.

2012-09-04 Thread Jonathan Arkell
Hi Orgers!

I recently picked up a Neruosky Mindwave, a consumer level EEG device (it
reads brainwaves).  Unfortunately, the software bundle doesn't include a
way to log the EEG levels.  Since I am fairly decent at Elisp, I thought I
would write a little library to interface with the mindwave, and store the
results.  Naturally I thought of using an org-mode buffer for this.

So I present, mindwave-emacs:
https://raw.github.com/jonnay/emagicians-starter-kit/master/extra/mindwave-
emacs.org

Mindwave-emacs.el really is just a low-level interface for emacs.  Inside
of the org file are 2 examples (actually, fully working programs) that
show you how to work with it.

  - gather-into-org.el :: allows you to write data into an org-mode file
  - solarized-mind.el  :: uses the eSense Attention and Meditation
measurements to provide feedback to the user on their brian state.

I am also working on a lower-level serial/binary connection to retrieve
data from the mindwave to help facilitate raw EEG logging.

I don't know if this is going to be useful to anyone, but I figured some
people may be interested.

Cheers!
__


Jonathan Arkell
Sr. Developer
Inspired By Drum  Bass, Scheme, Kawaii

p. 403.206.4377
1011 9th Ave SE, Suite 300

Calgary, AB, Canada T2G 0Y4

jonath...@criticalmass.com
criticalmass.com






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