I offer to take over maintainership of Org.
-1 too (or -infinity, if allowed, as previously suggested).
--
Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
Department of Biochemistry, Lab B-25
Facultad de Medicina
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid
Arzobispo Morcillo, 4
28029 Madrid
Spain
Phone: +34-91-497-2412
Email:
I wrote the exporters and contribute to Emacs just because I feel
decades (or couple of decades) down the road when Carstens, Bastiens,
Nicolas, Erics and all others fade in to irrelevance and obscurity,
Emacs and by extension Orgmode will continue to be used by some
enterprising student in one
Allen S. Rout a...@ufl.edu writes:
On 02/13/2013 03:45 PM, John Wiegley wrote:
I didn't even realize Bastien was looking for a replacement.
There's no technical reason someone interested in making an offer should
necessarily wait for a declared vacancy. It seems a straightforward
move
Hi Jonathan,
Jonathan Leech-Pepin jonathan.leechpe...@gmail.com writes:
Either there's some
underlying reason for your apparent dislike for Bastien and his
approach to maintaining
Org, or some argument in the past that I am not aware of.
For the sake of clarity (and history), here is how I
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On 14/02/13 07:45, Jambunathan K wrote:
(Discussion is meta. So bear with my amateurish excursions.)
Some times the best question to ask is NOT What I stand to gain? but What
I/We stand to
lose?. Are the overheads worth it in the long run?
Bastien b...@altern.org writes:
Dear all,
Jambunathan (like anyone) is free to fork the code, to build
a community around his fork and to submit his changes to Emacs.
He has commit access to Emacs, so that should even make things
easier for him.
This is free software, and the ability to
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:
Aha! You are not forced to fill people's Inboxes.
^^^
now
Yes - we want to know - tell us and don't talk in riddles.
I offer no ready-made solutions. Riddles need work, true.
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On 14/02/13 10:50, Jambunathan K wrote:
Yes - we want to know - tell us and don't talk in riddles.
I offer no ready-made solutions. Riddles need work, true.
My last question:
Solutions for what?
- --
Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation
This is a list to discussion Org-mode.
To discuss moral aspects of using or contributing to Emacs,
please use news:alt.religion.emacs
Who knows, you might also end up quoted in emacs/etc/DEVEL.HUMOR,
which is my own personal Graal.
--
Bastien
Bastien b...@altern.org writes:
This is a list to discussion Org-mode.
You can lock me out. You hold the keys, right.
To discuss moral aspects of using or contributing to Emacs,
please use news:alt.religion.emacs
Who knows, you might also end up quoted in emacs/etc/DEVEL.HUMOR,
which is
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:
Bastien b...@altern.org writes:
This is a list to discussion Org-mode.
You can lock me out. You hold the keys, right.
Well, we don't have a habit of kicking people out for their
first few off-topic posts. I'm confident you will not flood
the
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:
Bastien b...@altern.org writes:
Dear all,
Jambunathan (like anyone) is free to fork the code, to build a
community around his fork and to submit his changes to Emacs. He
has commit access to Emacs, so that should even make things easier
for
Bastien b...@altern.org writes:
Actually, one of the reasons I want to step down in the long run is
that I'm a bit frustrated of not having time enough to focus on big
new features.
You are a student of philosophy, aren't you? Where you put your efforts
is where your allegiances lie. The
Bastien b...@altern.org writes:
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:
Bastien b...@altern.org writes:
This is a list to discussion Org-mode.
You can lock me out. You hold the keys, right.
Well, we don't have a habit of kicking people out for their
first few off-topic posts. I'm
Glyn Millington glyn.milling...@gmail.com writes:
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:
Bastien b...@altern.org writes:
Dear all,
Jambunathan (like anyone) is free to fork the code, to build a
community around his fork and to submit his changes to Emacs. He
has commit access to
François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca writes:
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:
I offer to take over maintainership of Org.
-1
François
P.S. I love the Org project, and I strongly hope it stay lovable. The
human qualities of a maintainer, and the crowd surrounding him/her,
For the sake of record, I will Footnote what Bastien wrote. There will
be lots of Footnotes, not one or two. But I wouldn't alter the article.
Bastien b...@altern.org writes:
Hi Jonathan,
Jonathan Leech-Pepin jonathan.leechpe...@gmail.com writes:
Either there's some
underlying reason
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:
I offer to take over maintainership of Org.
What's your point ? Trolling ? If not, why do you ask questions in a way
that will upset people ? I think it's ok to focus on the code, and focus
on what will make the software better and more efficient for
Nicolas Richard theonewiththeevill...@yahoo.fr writes:
but you cannot make an unrealistic offer (don't tell
me you had not foreseen the many negative responses) and then just
somehow say Too bad for you, I offered to save your souls and you
refused it.
Well, I just did. How can you openly
Another question: Why are people Jambu-bashing and Bastien-hugging when
I have clearly said that Nicolas Goaziou's work has not been duly
recognized. People are selective about what they want to see or hear.
--
What Free Software needs is contributors and a good outlet. For
Orgmode, the latter problem is solved because Emacs serves as a good and
well-known and well-respected clearing house.
Recruit more contributors. Get out of the way of existing
contributors. Ignore, just plain ignore the
Note: Anger is futile, particularly over the internet.
Sure it is ; but you do look angry.
You should come see me in my apartment, as I type these words. No one
is having more fun than I am having right now.
If that is true, if this is fun for you, then you shall understand
that
I called the community riffraffs for a reason. They are in truth
riffsraffs.
I have two post-graduate degrees, but I cannot code in elisp so I guess I
am among the worthless ones (riffraff: 1. People regarded as disreputable
or worthless. 2. Rubbish; trash.). To be honest, I do not care who
I have two post-graduate degrees, but I cannot code in elisp so
I am quoting from this article.
I am wondering, people with two-postgraduate degrees and those with
doctoratal and post-doctoral degrees can do better than secretaries.
, http://www.gnu.org/gnu/rms-lisp.html
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| The editor
I offer to take over maintainership of Org, gcc, and the Linux kernel.
Offer closes in 7 days. Only pre-conditions will be that Org gets
ported to Notepad, gcc to be turned into a llvm front-end and Linus
sodomized to death. All that under my supervision.
Principals and idiots can PM me with
On 02/14/2013 10:36 AM, Jose E. Marchesi wrote:
Note: Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to the dark
side.
Hate leads to suffering. Get it right.
Was that a shark we just jumped over?
On 02/13/2013 04:31 PM, Allen S. Rout wrote:
It would probably be most peaceful not
Bastien b...@altern.org writes:
Actually, one of the reasons I want to step down in the long run is
that I'm a bit frustrated of not having time enough to focus on big
new features. But the flow of new users and new contributors is
rewarding enough so that maintaining Org keeps being fun :)
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:
I never remember being rude to you.
I do not remember you've ever been rude with me. It's not personal.
It's just that I would like Org to return to its peaceful and happy
road. You announced in some earlier message that you were unsubscribing
Dear Jose E Marchesi
I am happy to hear of your endeavors. I am publicly messaging you in my
capacity as a well-known and well-recognized idiot [1].
I am myself running an experiment very similar to yours, albeit on a
smaller scale.
The tasks you have taken upon yourself seem to be big, but
Hi everyone,
may I suggest that we dry up this thread and the related threads? It seems to
me that what needed to be said has been said and we should stop providing an
arena for a monologue that has become full OT by now.
- Carsten
Carsten
I opened this thread and I will have the last word.
I *guarantee* you, I would have taken up the maintainership. I seem to
be a lone dissenting voice which also wanted to *take up* responsibility
in a substantial manner at a throwaway price.
I had every right to make the restrictions
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:
Jonathan was the lone saving grace and I should applaud him for
balanced-ness he has shown.
Also Nicolas Richard.
I offer to take over maintainership of Org.
Offer closes in 7 days. Only pre-condition will be that Org-8.0 and
subsequent releases happen under my supervision.
Principals and riff-raffs can PM me with your thoughts. I defend your
right to choose the maintainer or express yourself freely.
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:
I offer to take over maintainership of Org.
Offer closes in 7 days.
Adding a note to myself. Feb 20, IST
Only pre-condition will be that Org-8.0 and subsequent releases happen
under my supervision.
Principals and riff-raffs can PM me with
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:
I offer to take over maintainership of Org.
Offer closes in 7 days. Only pre-condition will be that Org-8.0 and
subsequent releases happen under my supervision.
Principals and riff-raffs can PM me with your thoughts. I defend your right
to
On 02/13/2013 03:45 PM, John Wiegley wrote:
I didn't even realize Bastien was looking for a replacement.
There's no technical reason someone interested in making an offer should
necessarily wait for a declared vacancy. It seems a straightforward
move of no-confidence, soliciting support.
It would probably be most peaceful not to discuss Jambunathan's offer on
this forum. I expect that the count of +1s to the offer will
communicate the list's collective opinion.
I've ignored Jambunathan so far, hoping that not feeding the troll
will make it go away. I understand he's
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:
I offer to take over maintainership of Org.
Offer closes in 7 days. Only pre-condition will be that Org-8.0 and
subsequent releases happen under my supervision.
Principals and riff-raffs can PM me with your thoughts. I defend your
right to
Dear Jambunathan,
On Feb 14 2013, Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com wrote:
express yourself freely.
By taking advantage of that opportunity, expressing my voice here. Feel *free
to ignore/dismiss* it.
As a competent programmer and strong FSF supporter you can play a bigger role
in the
Dear all,
Jambunathan (like anyone) is free to fork the code, to build
a community around his fork and to submit his changes to Emacs.
He has commit access to Emacs, so that should even make things
easier for him.
This is free software, and the ability to fork is what makes
sure we are all
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:
I offer to take over maintainership of Org.
-1
François
P.S. I love the Org project, and I strongly hope it stay lovable. The
human qualities of a maintainer, and the crowd surrounding him/her, are
very important to me. In the past, I left
Dear all,
I cannot see any reason to change the maintainer.
My vote is -1.
Best regards,
Takaaki Ishikawa
--
Takaaki ISHIKAWA tak...@ieee.org
GITI, Waseda University
( ' -')b http://about.me/takaxp
On 2013年2月14日Thursday at 3:08, Jambunathan K wrote:
I offer to take over
On 13 February 2013 13:08, Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com wrote:
I offer to take over maintainership of Org.
I have to say -1 as well.
Offer closes in 7 days. Only pre-condition will be that Org-8.0 and
subsequent releases happen under my supervision.
Is there something in
On 02/13/2013 04:41 PM, Russell Adams wrote:
It would probably be most peaceful not to discuss Jambunathan's offer on
this forum. I expect that the count of +1s to the offer will
communicate the list's collective opinion.
I've ignored Jambunathan so far, hoping that not feeding the troll
You seem to stand out in the mob. So some personal hugs from side.
Offer closes in 7 days. Only pre-condition will be that Org-8.0 and
subsequent releases happen under my supervision.
Is there something in particular about the forthcoming 8.0 that you
would want done differently from how
(Discussion is meta. So bear with my amateurish excursions.)
Some times the best question to ask is NOT What I stand to gain? but
What I/We stand to lose?. Are the overheads worth it in the long run?
Everyone wants to gain all the time without losing anything. I call
that interesting.
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:
I offer to take over maintainership of Org.
Org right now is making quick progress, important improvements, and has
a lot of enthusiastic and useful contributors. When a maintainer
decision needs to be made, there is usually a satisfactory result.
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