Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-27 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz  writes:

> The package description is loaded, buth then it doesn't install because
> the description vector is wrong.  I've pushed a correction that at least
> works with a local copy of the archive directory.

I will test this on the server -- thanks!

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-27 Thread Achim Gratz
Achim Gratz writes:
> I haven't tested it yet, but the files are up already.

The package description is loaded, buth then it doesn't install because
the description vector is wrong.  I've pushed a correction that at least
works with a local copy of the archive directory.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-27 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim,

Achim Gratz  writes:

> There is an error in the float element (the ":" after "right" should
> really be a ";").

Fixed, thanks.

> Also I would really appreciate if the CSS didn't specify absolute font
> sizes.

I did improve things a bit.  Please provide a patch if things are 
still not to your taste.

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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-26 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes:
>> Have you pushed it? Coz' I don't see it just yet…
>
> Yes -- see the commits here:

Thanks.  Gitk apparently refused to update its display even though I'd
already updated the remotes.  I haven't tested it yet, but the
files are up already.

BTW, can you check the CSS for the Org site?  There is an error in the
float element (the ":" after "right" should really be a ";").  Also I
would really appreciate if the CSS didn't specify absolute font sizes.
Please leave it to the user to decide how big or small the fonts should
be.


Regards,
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-26 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim,

Achim Gratz  writes:

> Bastien writes:
>> I went "bold" (wikipedia style) and made the change.
>>
>> See the commits related to mk/server.mk.
>
> Have you pushed it? Coz' I don't see it just yet…

Yes -- see the commits here:

http://orgmode.org/w/org-mode.git?p=org-mode.git;a=commit;h=0955505
http://orgmode.org/w/org-mode.git?p=org-mode.git;a=commit;h=a1e645b
http://orgmode.org/w/org-mode.git?p=org-mode.git;a=commit;h=fdc795b

>> I think this is good enough for now, but if you have a better
>> solution, let me know.  I'll ask Jason to install Emacs 24.2
>> if that's possible.
>
> I'll have a look.

Thanks,

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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-26 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes:
> I went "bold" (wikipedia style) and made the change.
>
> See the commits related to mk/server.mk.

Have you pushed it? Coz' I don't see it just yet…

> I think this is good enough for now, but if you have a better
> solution, let me know.  I'll ask Jason to install Emacs 24.2
> if that's possible.

I'll have a look.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-26 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim,

Achim Gratz  writes:

> Although it should be possible to produce the package description
> vectors manually at the moment, I would like to avoid that.

I went "bold" (wikipedia style) and made the change.

See the commits related to mk/server.mk.

I think this is good enough for now, but if you have a better
solution, let me know.  I'll ask Jason to install Emacs 24.2
if that's possible.

Thanks,

-- 
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-24 Thread Bastien
Hi,

Achim Gratz  writes:

> Yes, archive-contents is not currently produced.  AFAIK the server is
> still running Emacs�23 and I don't know if package-x is available.
> Although it should be possible to produce the package description
> vectors manually at the moment, I would like to avoid that.
>
>> Where will one point ELPA to use these new packages?  E.g.,
>>
>> ;; -*- emacs-lisp -*-
>> (add-to-list 'package-archives
>>   '("Org-mode" . "http://orgmode.org/pkg/foo";))
>
> When archive-contents gets created, the URL must likely will be
> http://orgmode.org/pkg, until then you need to download the tar file and
> do a package-install-file.

http://orgmode.org/pkg/ is fine.

How is the GNU ELPA downloading org-*.tar currently?  

org-plus-contrib-*.tar should not be downloaded on elpa.gnu.org.
So maybe we should have two directories?

Let me know what I need to add on the server.

Jason may also help by installing Emacs 24.2 if necessary.

-- 
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-24 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes:
> So is there some server-side action which needs to be taken for these
> packages and the archive-contents file to begin appearing online?

Yes, archive-contents is not currently produced.  AFAIK the server is
still running Emacs 23 and I don't know if package-x is available.
Although it should be possible to produce the package description
vectors manually at the moment, I would like to avoid that.

> Where will one point ELPA to use these new packages?  E.g.,
>
> ;; -*- emacs-lisp -*-
> (add-to-list 'package-archives
>   '("Org-mode" . "http://orgmode.org/pkg/foo";))

When archive-contents gets created, the URL must likely will be
http://orgmode.org/pkg, until then you need to download the tar file and
do a package-install-file.


Regards,
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-24 Thread Eric Schulte
Bastien  writes:

> Achim Gratz  writes:
>
>> Bastien writes:
 However I suggest to lose the plural
 and just use `org-plus-contrib´.
>>>
>>> Yes, that's fine for me.  Thanks,
>>
>> Implemented and pushed.
>
> Thanks!

So is there some server-side action which needs to be taken for these
packages and the archive-contents file to begin appearing online?

Where will one point ELPA to use these new packages?  E.g.,

;; -*- emacs-lisp -*-
(add-to-list 'package-archives
  '("Org-mode" . "http://orgmode.org/pkg/foo";))

Thanks,

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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-21 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz  writes:

> Bastien writes:
>>> However I suggest to lose the plural
>>> and just use `org-plus-contrib´.
>>
>> Yes, that's fine for me.  Thanks,
>
> Implemented and pushed.

Thanks!

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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-20 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes:
>> However I suggest to lose the plural
>> and just use `org-plus-contrib´.
>
> Yes, that's fine for me.  Thanks,

Implemented and pushed.


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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-19 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim,

Achim Gratz  writes:

> However I suggest to lose the plural
> and just use `org-plus-contrib´.

Yes, that's fine for me.  Thanks,

-- 
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-19 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes:
> Thinking again of it, I find "orgplus" confusing in this case.
>
> If a longer name is not a problem, I suggest "org-with-contribs", it
> clearly state that this is org with contribs.  There are dired+ and
> friends that are just extensions to dired (and friends), so orgplus
> would suggest this contains the extensions to Org.

At least in Emacs 24 the package manager would be able to display that
name without cutting off the end.  However I suggest to lose the plural
and just use `org-plus-contrib´.


Regards,
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-19 Thread Bastien
Hi Eric,

Eric Schulte  writes:

> Agreed, this would simply mean generating an archive-contents file on
> the Org-mode site which lists the latest org and orgplus archive.  I'm
> not sure which elisp function is used to generate this file, but it
> could be done directly from the server.mk file with something like...
>
> # -*- Makefile -*-
> archive-contents:
> echo "(1 (org . [($(PKG_TAG)) nil \"$(PKG_DOC)\"])"  > $<; \
> echo "   (orgplus . [($(PKG_TAG)) nil \"$(PKG_DOC)\"]))" > $<;
>
> Bastien, does this sound like a good idea?

Modulo the fixes provided by Achim, yes, I'll take care of this before
the end of the week.  Thanks!

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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-19 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim,

Achim Gratz  writes:

> I've just pushed a first implementation of an orgplus ELPA archive.

thanks a lot and sorry to be late on this.

I'll test this after tomorrow (I'm offline tomorrow), I'll try to set
this up on the server then.  If there are any direction you can think
of, please email me in private.

> I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing.  There are now two
> ELPA packages — org and orgplus — that shouldn't be installed at the
> same time.

Thinking again of it, I find "orgplus" confusing in this case.

If a longer name is not a problem, I suggest "org-with-contribs", it
clearly state that this is org with contribs.  There are dired+ and
friends that are just extensions to dired (and friends), so orgplus
would suggest this contains the extensions to Org.

> BTW, rolling more than one EPLA package per day is currently a bad
> idea.

Agreed.

I suggest having daily builds and deleting packages that are older 
than the last stable release.  I'll update Jason on this.

Thanks!

-- 
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-18 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes:
> Please do go ahead and revert that commit.

Done, implemented in maint and merged back to master.


Regards,
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-18 Thread Eric Schulte
Achim Gratz  writes:

> Eric Schulte writes:
>> Agreed, this would simply mean generating an archive-contents file on
>> the Org-mode site which lists the latest org and orgplus archive.  I'm
>> not sure which elisp function is used to generate this file, but it
>> could be done directly from the server.mk file with something like...
>>
>> # -*- Makefile -*-
>> archive-contents:
>> echo "(1 (org . [($(PKG_TAG)) nil \"$(PKG_DOC)\"])"  > $<; \
>> echo "   (orgplus . [($(PKG_TAG)) nil \"$(PKG_DOC)\"]))" > $<;
>
> No, you'd need ">>" on the second line.
>

Yup, good catch.

>
> BTW, I'm going to revert your change for removing PGK_REQ since you've
> done it in the wrong branch.  I'd like to keep the PKG_REQ variable for
> possible future use, can you please test if the package archives that
> choke on nil can correctly deal with "()" or "(())"?  Otherwise I'd
> leave the variable undefined, which results in the same thing as your
> patch.
>

Please do go ahead and revert that commit.  If we're hosting our own
packages on orgmode.org, then I don't think we need to worry about
conforming to the vagaries of other ELPA package parsers (in this case
marmalade).  I do think that leaving PKG_REQ undefined when there are no
dependencies is the best of the options listed above.

Thanks,

>
>
> Regards,
> Achim.

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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-17 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes:
> Agreed, this would simply mean generating an archive-contents file on
> the Org-mode site which lists the latest org and orgplus archive.  I'm
> not sure which elisp function is used to generate this file, but it
> could be done directly from the server.mk file with something like...
>
> # -*- Makefile -*-
> archive-contents:
> echo "(1 (org . [($(PKG_TAG)) nil \"$(PKG_DOC)\"])"  > $<; \
> echo "   (orgplus . [($(PKG_TAG)) nil \"$(PKG_DOC)\"]))" > $<;

No, you'd need ">>" on the second line.

BTW, I'm going to revert your change for removing PGK_REQ since you've
done it in the wrong branch.  I'd like to keep the PKG_REQ variable for
possible future use, can you please test if the package archives that
choke on nil can correctly deal with "()" or "(())"?  Otherwise I'd
leave the variable undefined, which results in the same thing as your
patch.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-17 Thread Eric Schulte
>> I'm not sure what "providing the link" entails.  Does this mean
>> coordinating with elpa.gnu.org so that orgplus becomes available through
>> the gnu elpa?  That sounds ideal.
>
> I was actually thinking of using orgmode.org as the package repository
> for orgplus.  I don't think it is a good idea to provide both org and
> orgplus via ELPA as long as no "negative" dependencies can be expressed
> via the package manager.
>

Agreed, this would simply mean generating an archive-contents file on
the Org-mode site which lists the latest org and orgplus archive.  I'm
not sure which elisp function is used to generate this file, but it
could be done directly from the server.mk file with something like...

# -*- Makefile -*-
archive-contents:
echo "(1 (org . [($(PKG_TAG)) nil \"$(PKG_DOC)\"])"  > $<; \
echo "   (orgplus . [($(PKG_TAG)) nil \"$(PKG_DOC)\"]))" > $<;

Bastien, does this sound like a good idea?  I'd love to finally get this
package published.

Thanks,

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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-16 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes:
> I'm not sure what "providing the link" entails.  Does this mean
> coordinating with elpa.gnu.org so that orgplus becomes available through
> the gnu elpa?  That sounds ideal.

I was actually thinking of using orgmode.org as the package repository
for orgplus.  I don't think it is a good idea to provide both org and
orgplus via ELPA as long as no "negative" dependencies can be expressed
via the package manager.


Regards,
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-16 Thread Eric Schulte
>> I vote we begin building the orgplus package daily and hosting it on
>> orgmode.org.
>
> When the server pulls up to that revision it should automatically start
> to produce the orgplus archive.  It is then a matter of providing the
> link so that it actually becomes accessible.
>

I'm not sure what "providing the link" entails.  Does this mean
coordinating with elpa.gnu.org so that orgplus becomes available through
the gnu elpa?  That sounds ideal.

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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-16 Thread Achim Gratz
Jambunathan K writes:
> Package manager will download and upgrade the dependency if needed.

Yes.

> Bundle the exporters in to say org-extras*.tar or org-devel-*.tar and
> then have that package depend on the right version of org-*.tar.

That would work if the package was missing.  I've looked and looked, but
I can't see how to specify that another package must _not_ be present.
It appears that package manager doesn't provide for mutual exclusivity
of packages.  It is possible to block certain packages from loading via
package-load-list, but again I don't see how to do that during package
install.


Regards,
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-15 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes:
> This looks great, I can confirm that building and installing this
> package locally allows me to build other ELPA package that depend on
> functionality in contrib/.

Thanks for testing.

> I vote we begin building the orgplus package daily and hosting it on
> orgmode.org.

When the server pulls up to that revision it should automatically start
to produce the orgplus archive.  It is then a matter of providing the
link so that it actually becomes accessible.


Regards,
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-15 Thread Eric Schulte
Achim Gratz  writes:

> Bastien writes:
>>> Hmm… I'd rather avoid that since "+" is a reserved character in file
>>> names on some systems.  How about orgplus?
>>
>> Looks fine to me.
>
> I've just pushed a first implementation of an orgplus ELPA archive.
>

This looks great, I can confirm that building and installing this
package locally allows me to build other ELPA package that depend on
functionality in contrib/.

I vote we begin building the orgplus package daily and hosting it on
orgmode.org.

Thanks,

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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-15 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes:
>> Hmm… I'd rather avoid that since "+" is a reserved character in file
>> names on some systems.  How about orgplus?
>
> Looks fine to me.

I've just pushed a first implementation of an orgplus ELPA archive.

> Publishing new packages only when maint has been changed will already
> reduce some possible confusion, because each org-MMDD.tar package
> will correspond to the same version.

I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing.  There are now two
ELPA packages — org and orgplus — that shouldn't be installed at the
same time.  I'm still thinking about Jambunathans suggestion to use
package dependencies, but I don't think that will allow me to specify
that a certain package version should not exist, either.

BTW, rolling more than one EPLA package per day is currently a bad idea.
There'd be multiple versions of that package with the same package
version.  We can't use the git status for this since it isn't orderable
so the package manager wouldn't know when there's a new version.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-13 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim,

Achim Gratz  writes:

> Bastien writes:
>> Let's take the easy road then.
>
> I'll work on that in maint, is this OK?

Yes.

Also, we currently build a new ELPA package each day, resulting in
having a new ELPA version every day.  We should have a new ELPA version
each time there is a commit in maint, not every day.  I'll see with
Jason if we can install this.

>> I'd suggest org+ as the name of the package.
>
> Hmm… I'd rather avoid that since "+" is a reserved character in file
> names on some systems.  How about orgplus?

Looks fine to me.

>> Hosting it on something like orgmode.org/pkg/daily/elpa_ would 
>> do I guess, then the ELPA servers would have to download it.
>
> What I don't know is how to make sure that only one of these packages
> gets installed.  It could become quite confusing if someone decides to
> install both and have different versions of them.  The package manager
> knows to remove an older version of the same package, but I don't think
> you can tell it to remove a different package, so we need to educate the
> prospective user to do this.  Suggestions?

Publishing new packages only when maint has been changed will already
reduce some possible confusion, because each org-MMDD.tar package
will correspond to the same version.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-09 Thread Jambunathan K
Jambunathan K  writes:

> Bundle the exporters in to say org-extras*.tar or org-devel-*.tar and
> then have that package depend on the right version of org-*.tar.

Or taking some cue from debian, call it org-*-unstable-*.tar and/or
org-*-testing-*.tar.



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-09 Thread Jambunathan K
Achim Gratz  writes:

> Bastien writes:
>> Let's take the easy road then.
>
> I'll work on that in maint, is this OK?
>
>> I'd suggest org+ as the name of the package.
>
> Hmm… I'd rather avoid that since "+" is a reserved character in file
> names on some systems.  How about orgplus?
>
>> Hosting it on something like orgmode.org/pkg/daily/elpa_ would 
>> do I guess, then the ELPA servers would have to download it.
>
> What I don't know is how to make sure that only one of these packages
> gets installed.  It could become quite confusing if someone decides to
> install both and have different versions of them.  The package manager
> knows to remove an older version of the same package, but I don't think
> you can tell it to remove a different package, so we need to educate the
> prospective user to do this.  Suggestions?

Package manager will download and upgrade the dependency if needed.

Bundle the exporters in to say org-extras*.tar or org-devel-*.tar and
then have that package depend on the right version of org-*.tar.

We can provide different URLs for gnu and non-gnu packages.  So that
users will know what to test with more rigour.

> Regards,
> Achim.

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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-09 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes:
> Let's take the easy road then.

I'll work on that in maint, is this OK?

> I'd suggest org+ as the name of the package.

Hmm… I'd rather avoid that since "+" is a reserved character in file
names on some systems.  How about orgplus?

> Hosting it on something like orgmode.org/pkg/daily/elpa_ would 
> do I guess, then the ELPA servers would have to download it.

What I don't know is how to make sure that only one of these packages
gets installed.  It could become quite confusing if someone decides to
install both and have different versions of them.  The package manager
knows to remove an older version of the same package, but I don't think
you can tell it to remove a different package, so we need to educate the
prospective user to do this.  Suggestions?


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-04 Thread Eric Schulte
Jambunathan K  writes:

> 1.  There is no need to do download and M-x package-install-file RET if
> the publishing server has a `archive-contents' file.
>
> Org's daily tars are already pushed to Orgmode.org and then later
> pulled by GNU's ELPA servers.
>
> So only thing needed is a public URL on Orgmode.org for package tars
> and an archive-contents.
>
> 2.  IMO, packages destined for Emacs are much more valuable than those
> that lie in githubs and bitbuckets.
>
> Why is there a hesitation to bundle org-export.el and org-e-*.el
> (written by me and Ngz) in to it's own ELPA package or ship it along
> with daily tars.
>
> 3. There is a `package-upload-file' from package-x.el that can upload
>make-produced-tar and *also* update `archive-contents' with the new
>version.
>
> All of 1, 2 and 3 is available my ELPA makefile changes in
> org-jambu.git.
>

Maybe if you could share individual diffs from your git branch which add
Makefile targets to:
- bundle org-export and org-e-*.el ELPA packages
- update package-upload-file
- bundle an org+contrib ELPA package (if you have this implemented)

then this functionality could be more easily folded into the master
branch.

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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-04 Thread Eric Schulte
Jambunathan K  writes:

>> 1.  There is no need to do download and M-x package-install-file RET if
>> the publishing server has a `archive-contents' file.
>>
>> Org's daily tars are already pushed to Orgmode.org and then later
>> pulled by GNU's ELPA servers.
>>
>> So only thing needed is a public URL on Orgmode.org for package tars
>> and an archive-contents.
>
> What this mean is that there is no need for Tromey's repo or marmalade
> repo.  Orgmode itself is a repo and can be used in `package-archives'.
>
> Since release tars are already made available on Orgmode.org servers, I
> think bandwidth costs are not much of a concern for those sponsoring
> Orgmode.org's hosting.

There is still the point of discoverability.  Many more users already
have the tromney/marmalade archives in their .emacs.  If every package
hosted its own archive, then ELPA would be too cumbersome to use.

Best,

-- 
Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-02 Thread Bastien
Hi Jambunathan,

Jambunathan K  writes:

> What this mean is that there is no need for Tromey's repo or marmalade
> repo.  Orgmode itself is a repo and can be used in `package-archives'.

Indeed -- that's something we may consider.

> Since release tars are already made available on Orgmode.org servers, I
> think bandwidth costs are not much of a concern for those sponsoring
> Orgmode.org's hosting.

I need to check with Jason first.  I'll ping him about this and
let you know.  Thanks for suggesting this!

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-02 Thread Jambunathan K

> 1.  There is no need to do download and M-x package-install-file RET if
> the publishing server has a `archive-contents' file.
>
> Org's daily tars are already pushed to Orgmode.org and then later
> pulled by GNU's ELPA servers.
>
> So only thing needed is a public URL on Orgmode.org for package tars
> and an archive-contents.

What this mean is that there is no need for Tromey's repo or marmalade
repo.  Orgmode itself is a repo and can be used in `package-archives'.

Since release tars are already made available on Orgmode.org servers, I
think bandwidth costs are not much of a concern for those sponsoring
Orgmode.org's hosting.
-- 



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-02 Thread Jambunathan K

1.  There is no need to do download and M-x package-install-file RET if
the publishing server has a `archive-contents' file.

Org's daily tars are already pushed to Orgmode.org and then later
pulled by GNU's ELPA servers.

So only thing needed is a public URL on Orgmode.org for package tars
and an archive-contents.

2.  IMO, packages destined for Emacs are much more valuable than those
that lie in githubs and bitbuckets.

Why is there a hesitation to bundle org-export.el and org-e-*.el
(written by me and Ngz) in to it's own ELPA package or ship it along
with daily tars.

3. There is a `package-upload-file' from package-x.el that can upload
   make-produced-tar and *also* update `archive-contents' with the new
   version.

All of 1, 2 and 3 is available my ELPA makefile changes in
org-jambu.git.

It's clear what needs to be done.  Despite that, IMSNHO, there is
hesitation and too much discussion.


-- 



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-09-02 Thread Bastien
Hi,

Achim Gratz  writes:

> I was talking about the hypothetical possibility to offer another
> archive that is compatible with package manager and either packages Org
> including contrib or just contrib (so that it could be installed
> alongside the "normal" Org ELPA archive).
>
> Of these two options the first (canned Org + contrib/ in a single
> archive) is considerably easier to implement since all autoload
> dependencies are kept inside the same install.

Let's take the easy road then.

I'd suggest org+ as the name of the package.

Hosting it on something like orgmode.org/pkg/daily/elpa_ would 
do I guess, then the ELPA servers would have to download it.

How does that sound?

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-31 Thread Nick Dokos
Eric Schulte  wrote:


> This first option of a combined org+contrib package in a non-GNU ELPA*
> does sound like the easiest to implement and most likely to succeed (for
> the reasons Achim mentions above).  Is there a downside to such a
> combined package which I am missing?
> 
> Perhaps such a package could be called org-w-contrib or more simply
> org-contrib.
> 

org-contrib might be confusing: I'd suggest org-with-contrib, org-plus-contrib
or org+contrib. Err towards more, rather than less, explicitness.

Nick




Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-31 Thread Eric Schulte
Achim Gratz  writes:

> Bastien writes:
>> Are you both talking about the same thing?  
>
> I'm not sure, but we'll find out.
>
>> (I use ELPA* to denote other ELPA archives than GNU ELPA.)
>>
>> If this is about a org-*.tar ELPA* package containing both
>> *core* and *contrib*, I disagree.
>>
>> If this is about a org-contrib*.tar ELPA* (or wherever), I
>> agree.
>
> I was talking about the hypothetical possibility to offer another
> archive that is compatible with package manager and either packages Org
> including contrib or just contrib (so that it could be installed
> alongside the "normal" Org ELPA archive).
>
> Of these two options the first (canned Org + contrib/ in a single
> archive) is considerably easier to implement since all autoload
> dependencies are kept inside the same install.
>

This first option of a combined org+contrib package in a non-GNU ELPA*
does sound like the easiest to implement and most likely to succeed (for
the reasons Achim mentions above).  Is there a downside to such a
combined package which I am missing?

Perhaps such a package could be called org-w-contrib or more simply
org-contrib.

>
>> Hopefully we can define dependencies for packages living on
>> different ELPA* serveurs -- can someone confirm this?
>
> I don't think that's possible if I understand what you're asking.  When
> you configure multiple servers the package manager will treat all
> packages the same, you can't prefer packages on one server over another
> AFAIK — it choses the one with the highest version if the same package
> is offered from multiple sources.
>

Confirmed, when specifying a dependency you are only allowed to give the
name and the minimum version number.  Which server the package is
downloaded from is undefined.

>
>> If we are sure we can have a org-contrib in ELPA* that knows what org it
>> should rely on GNU ELPA, then let's go ahead with such package.
>
> That on the other hand would be possible if we find a way to sort out
> the autoloads maze.  But we might avoid that problem altogether if we
> simply offer the Org+contrib package on orgmode.org and tell people to
> download it and then issue "M-x package-install-file".
>

Assuming that simply specifying org as a dependency of org-contrib is
insufficient, then I would think that this combined install would be the
way to go.

Best,

>
>
> Regards,
> Achim.

-- 
Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-31 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes:
> Are you both talking about the same thing?  

I'm not sure, but we'll find out.

> (I use ELPA* to denote other ELPA archives than GNU ELPA.)
>
> If this is about a org-*.tar ELPA* package containing both
> *core* and *contrib*, I disagree.
>
> If this is about a org-contrib*.tar ELPA* (or wherever), I
> agree.

I was talking about the hypothetical possibility to offer another
archive that is compatible with package manager and either packages Org
including contrib or just contrib (so that it could be installed
alongside the "normal" Org ELPA archive).

Of these two options the first (canned Org + contrib/ in a single
archive) is considerably easier to implement since all autoload
dependencies are kept inside the same install.

> Hopefully we can define dependencies for packages living on
> different ELPA* serveurs -- can someone confirm this?

I don't think that's possible if I understand what you're asking.  When
you configure multiple servers the package manager will treat all
packages the same, you can't prefer packages on one server over another
AFAIK — it choses the one with the highest version if the same package
is offered from multiple sources.

> If we are sure we can have a org-contrib in ELPA* that knows what org it
> should rely on GNU ELPA, then let's go ahead with such package.

That on the other hand would be possible if we find a way to sort out
the autoloads maze.  But we might avoid that problem altogether if we
simply offer the Org+contrib package on orgmode.org and tell people to
download it and then issue "M-x package-install-file".


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-31 Thread Bastien
Hi Eric and Achim,

Eric Schulte  writes:

> Achim Gratz  writes:
>
>> Bastien writes:
>>> I'm afraid the only recommendation here is to try to stick to one
>>> installation method -- or to reinstall a fresh package/repo with a
>>> fresh contrib/lisp/ *after* any ELPA upgrade.
>>
>> Well, we could make an ELPA package that includes contrib.  It just
>> can't be distributed via GNU ELPA then.
>
> I second this option.
>
> Given that ELPA and contrib/ both serve as a sort of proving ground for
> tools which do not yet have some combination of the stability, copyright
> assignment, or widespread utility to be included in Emacs or either
> Org-mode it seems natural to distribute the contrib directory through
> ELPA.

Are you both talking about the same thing?  

(I use ELPA* to denote other ELPA archives than GNU ELPA.)

If this is about a org-*.tar ELPA* package containing both
*core* and *contrib*, I disagree.

If this is about a org-contrib*.tar ELPA* (or wherever), I
agree.

Hopefully we can define dependencies for packages living on
different ELPA* serveurs -- can someone confirm this?

> I think either of the following repositories would make excellent homes.
>
>   http://tromey.com/elpa/
>   http://marmalade-repo.org/packages/

We don't have to chose, right?  As long as one of them make it
available, I'm fine.

> Also, somewhat selfishly, I'd like to distribute my org-ehtml tool as an
> ELPA package, but I can't until some of the functionality in contrib/
> can be installed through ELPA.

Sure.  

If we are sure we can have a org-contrib in ELPA* that knows what org it
should rely on GNU ELPA, then let's go ahead with such package.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-30 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
MELPA looks better; like ELPA 2.0 :)

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Ivan Andrus  wrote:

>
> On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Eric Schulte wrote:
>
> > Achim Gratz  writes:
> >
> >> Bastien writes:
> >>> I'm afraid the only recommendation here is to try to stick to one
> >>> installation method -- or to reinstall a fresh package/repo with a
> >>> fresh contrib/lisp/ *after* any ELPA upgrade.
> >>
> >> Well, we could make an ELPA package that includes contrib.  It just
> >> can't be distributed via GNU ELPA then.
> >>
> >
> > I second this option.
>
> +1 I know that I am much more likely to try stuff if it's in ELPA.
>
> > Given that ELPA and contrib/ both serve as a sort of proving ground for
> > tools which do not yet have some combination of the stability, copyright
> > assignment, or widespread utility to be included in Emacs or either
> > Org-mode it seems natural to distribute the contrib directory through
> > ELPA.
> >
> > I think either of the following repositories would make excellent homes.
> >
> >  http://tromey.com/elpa/
> >  http://marmalade-repo.org/packages/
>
> Don't forget MELPA:
>
> http://melpa.milkbox.net/
>
> which will package it right out of git.
>
> -Ivan
>
>


Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-30 Thread Ivan Andrus

On Aug 30, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Eric Schulte wrote:

> Achim Gratz  writes:
> 
>> Bastien writes:
>>> I'm afraid the only recommendation here is to try to stick to one
>>> installation method -- or to reinstall a fresh package/repo with a
>>> fresh contrib/lisp/ *after* any ELPA upgrade.
>> 
>> Well, we could make an ELPA package that includes contrib.  It just
>> can't be distributed via GNU ELPA then.
>> 
> 
> I second this option.

+1 I know that I am much more likely to try stuff if it's in ELPA.

> Given that ELPA and contrib/ both serve as a sort of proving ground for
> tools which do not yet have some combination of the stability, copyright
> assignment, or widespread utility to be included in Emacs or either
> Org-mode it seems natural to distribute the contrib directory through
> ELPA.
> 
> I think either of the following repositories would make excellent homes.
> 
>  http://tromey.com/elpa/
>  http://marmalade-repo.org/packages/

Don't forget MELPA:

http://melpa.milkbox.net/

which will package it right out of git.

-Ivan



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-30 Thread Eric Schulte
Achim Gratz  writes:

> Bastien writes:
>> I'm afraid the only recommendation here is to try to stick to one
>> installation method -- or to reinstall a fresh package/repo with a
>> fresh contrib/lisp/ *after* any ELPA upgrade.
>
> Well, we could make an ELPA package that includes contrib.  It just
> can't be distributed via GNU ELPA then.
>

I second this option.

Given that ELPA and contrib/ both serve as a sort of proving ground for
tools which do not yet have some combination of the stability, copyright
assignment, or widespread utility to be included in Emacs or either
Org-mode it seems natural to distribute the contrib directory through
ELPA.

I think either of the following repositories would make excellent homes.

  http://tromey.com/elpa/
  http://marmalade-repo.org/packages/

Also, somewhat selfishly, I'd like to distribute my org-ehtml tool as an
ELPA package, but I can't until some of the functionality in contrib/
can be installed through ELPA.

Best,

>
>
> Regards,
> Achim.

-- 
Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-30 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes:
> I'm afraid the only recommendation here is to try to stick to one
> installation method -- or to reinstall a fresh package/repo with a
> fresh contrib/lisp/ *after* any ELPA upgrade.

Well, we could make an ELPA package that includes contrib.  It just
can't be distributed via GNU ELPA then.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-29 Thread Bastien
Hi Robert,

thanks for the detailed explanations, it also helped me find the
problem in my own setup.

I'm afraid the only recommendation here is to try to stick to one
installation method -- or to reinstall a fresh package/repo with a
fresh contrib/lisp/ *after* any ELPA upgrade.

Best,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-29 Thread Robert Horn
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 08:00:18PM +0200, Bastien wrote:
> Hi Achim,
> 
> Achim Gratz  writes:
> 
> > Achim Gratz writes:
> >> Can we see the full output, please?
> >
> > I got a mail from Robert (apparently not sent to the list) that the
> > error was related to his use of some stuff in contrib/, resulting in a
> > mixed installation.  
> 
> How the use of stuff in contrib/ can prevent the ELPA package from
> loading correctly?  I'm interested in having more details, if you or
> Robert can give some -- I had a similar problem, as you know, and
I'm traveling and have limited access and tools.  I've figured out
this much:

I had an emacs 24.1 install.  This has elpa and org 7.8.11 in the root
lisp area.  This also includes the 7.8.11 contrib directory.

When I use to elpa to upgrade the package to 7.9, it upgrades the lisp
directory but does not include the contrib directory.

When I start emacs, it finds the 7.9 org-mode, and does not detect a mixed
install.  The distribution org is all 7.9.

When my .emacs has the (require 'org-checklist) it finds the contrib 
directory in the 7.8.11 lisp directories. (I think).  There is no reported
error.  

All sorts of things work fine, but the new context aware changes for
capture interact in some bad way with the org-checklist from 7.8.11.

I won't have the right tools to figure out exactly what is going wrong
until I return from travel.  For now, the fix was quite simple.  I
removed the (require 'org-checklist) from my .emacs and the problem
went away.  It's entirely possible that there are other aspects of my
config that are also needed.

R Horn
rjh...@alum.mit.edu



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-29 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz  writes:

> Robert said he removed the contrib stuff and things start to work for
> him — apparently he's away for a few days so we may not hear from him
> until he's back.

All right, thanks for the details!  If I can reproduce the problem, 
I'll definitely ping Tom Tromey.

Best,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-29 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes:
>> I got a mail from Robert (apparently not sent to the list) that the
>> error was related to his use of some stuff in contrib/, resulting in a
>> mixed installation.  
>
> How the use of stuff in contrib/ can prevent the ELPA package from
> loading correctly?  I'm interested in having more details, if you or
> Robert can give some -- I had a similar problem, as you know, and
> didn't find the time to digg further so far.

The exact recipe for reproduction I don't know because even though I use
stuff from contrib/ it works for me without any error.  I suspect that
since I have a fairly recent installation of Org in site-lisp Emacs just
gets the autoloads from there if things go wrong and that's just the
same stuff it would pick up from ELPA.  I wont have time for a week or
so to remove this installation and see what happens…

I seem to remember there was some talk on Emacs devel that the package
manager loaded the activation code too late in saome cases, but I can't
find it right now.  You might ask Tom Tromey.  Emacs needs to grow a way
to de-activate the built-in package when it gets a new one via ELPA, but
that hasn't been implemented yet.

Robert said he removed the contrib stuff and things start to work for
him — apparently he's away for a few days so we may not hear from him
until he's back.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-29 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim,

Achim Gratz  writes:

> Achim Gratz writes:
>> Can we see the full output, please?
>
> I got a mail from Robert (apparently not sent to the list) that the
> error was related to his use of some stuff in contrib/, resulting in a
> mixed installation.  

How the use of stuff in contrib/ can prevent the ELPA package from
loading correctly?  I'm interested in having more details, if you or
Robert can give some -- I had a similar problem, as you know, and
didn't find the time to digg further so far.

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-28 Thread Achim Gratz
Achim Gratz writes:
> Can we see the full output, please?

I got a mail from Robert (apparently not sent to the list) that the
error was related to his use of some stuff in contrib/, resulting in a
mixed installation.  So everyone else who sees that problem, could you
please check if you are maybe using something from contrib/, too?


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-27 Thread Manuel Batsching
2012/8/26 Robert Horn :
>
> I decided to try ELPA to upgrade in place for the first time, and used
> it to upgrade to the latest org 7.9.  No apparent errors there.  (good
> work BTW).
>
> Tests:
>  - proper org-version? yes 7.9, no problems reported
>  - [f8] to trigger a capture I get the error:
>
> org-capture-select-template: Symbol's function definition is void:
> org-contextualize-keys
>

I had the same problem with emacs 24.2 after upgrading to org 7.9
(package version is given as: 20120827) via ELPA.  I could somehow
circumvent the problem by adding

(add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20120827")

to my .emacs.

Cheers,
Manuel



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-26 Thread Achim Gratz
Robert Horn writes:
> Tests:
>  - proper org-version? yes 7.9, no problems reported

Can we see the full output, please?

>  - [f8] to trigger a capture I get the error:
>
> org-capture-select-template: Symbol's function definition is void:
> org-contextualize-keys
>
> In my .emacs I've got
>
> (define-key global-map [f8] 'org-capture)

I've just tried this with a freshly produced ELPA package (except I have
that on "C-c c" not [f8]) and I get the capture template screen
displayed.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-26 Thread Robert Horn

A bug, perhaps ELPA related.  Sorry to be so brief but I've got to run
soon to the station.  I'm going to be tied up for the next week, but if
it's not figured out by then, I'll have time to look in more detail.

I confirmed this on Linux, Mac, and Windows, all emacs 24.1.  All
respond the same.

I decided to try ELPA to upgrade in place for the first time, and used
it to upgrade to the latest org 7.9.  No apparent errors there.  (good
work BTW).

Tests:
 - proper org-version? yes 7.9, no problems reported
 - [f8] to trigger a capture I get the error:

org-capture-select-template: Symbol's function definition is void:
org-contextualize-keys

In my .emacs I've got

(define-key global-map [f8] 'org-capture)

Sorry I don't have time to track this down further.  I'm guessing either
a problem with ELPA packaging or a default value for the new context
stuff that is not ready for the 'org-capture to be the very first thing
done from the emacs startup buffer.  Meanwhile, I dropped back to 7.8.11
until I can figure it out.

R Horn
rjh...@alum.mit.edu



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread James Harkins
I'm delighted to hear of the new release, and will upgrade today via git.

However... might I suggest that those who are commenting on the release,
please refrain from quoting the entire changelog? It's rather unpleasant
for digest readers.

It's one of the reasons why computers have Delete keys :-D

Sorry to be a stickler, but in the first digest announcing the release, I
had to page through the whole changelog 3 or 4 times because the first
several people to reply did not trim the quotes. And there's another today.

Thanks.
hjh


Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi Bastien,

Bastien  writes:

> Hi Thomas,
>
> t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
>
>> I'm using Org from Elpa (which is neat).  When I updated and refreshed
>> Org, I got the following error:
>>
>> Loading 
>> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/org-w3m.elc...done
>> Loading /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/org-wl.elc...done
>> Loading /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/org.elc...done
>> Cannot open load file: ob.el
>>
>> This seems strange to me because I have Org in
>> ~/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20120824, and not /Applications/Emacs.app/...
>
> It's even weirder, because the org-20120824.tar you downloaded by
> uploading contains Org 7.8.11.
>
> The Org ELPA packages is first created on http://orgmode.org
> (http://orgmode.org/pkg/daily/) then copied to http://elpa.gnu.org.
>
> I replaced org-20120824.tar with one containing Org 7.9.
>
> Perhaps first reupdate and report?
>
> HTH,

Reporting back.

Restarting Emacs got by the "Cannot open load file: ob.el" error.  I
haven't been able to reproduce this error when I reload or refresh Org.

Also, I haven't seen any references to
/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/... since I had the error loading
ob.el.  I read through the FAQ and discovered that one of the
starter-kits (the Worg page just refers to "starter-kit," as if it were
a singleton) can lead to a situation where Org packaged with Emacs is
loaded first, leading to a "frankenstein" Org.  The solution noted
there, to call (package-initialize) early on, appears to have been
adopted in Eric Schulte's starter-kit for Emacs 24, which I use, and
which AFAICT calls this function early in the process.  

Perhaps updating through elpa breaks a load-path link established by the
starter-kit for the old Org installation, due to the name change in the
elpa Org package date stamp?

Later, I removed the Org package and reinstalled it, using the package
manager.  The process worked fine, but I still have Org 7.8.11.  Perhaps
I should wait patiently for 7.9 to propagate to elpa?  Not a problem on
a beautiful beach day :)

All the best,
Tom

-- 
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Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Torsten Wagner
Hi Bastien,

with all the new features and changes for each release, we might
really need a release-party
or better a release-workshop. 1-2 days to get introduced to all the
great new stuff ;)

Kudos to all the org developers.


Torsten

On 25 August 2012 00:48, Bastien  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've released Org 7.9.
>
>   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.zip
>   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.gz
>   http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html
>
> After 1885 commits since Org 7.8, it was about time.
>
> See the list of changes here:
>
>   http://orgmode.org/Changes.html
>
> I cannot thank all the contributors enough: especially Nicolas, for his
> great work on org-element.el (among other nice stuff), Achim for the way
> he patiently rethought the build mechanism (and bared with me when I was
> being stubborn), Eric for the steady maintainance of Babel, Max for the
> neat idea of sticky agendas, etc.
>
> Here is a list of people to praise for their help:
>
> A. Major, Aaron Peromsik, Achim Gratz, Adam Spiers, Aidan Gauland,
> Albert, Alex Lane, Alexander Willand, Andrew Young, Anthony Lander,
> Benjamin Motz, Bernt Hansen, Bill Jackson, Bill Wishon, Bjarte Johansen,
> Brian J. Carlson, Brian Wood, Brian van den Broek, Carsten Dominik,
> Charles Philip Chan, Charles Sebold, Charles, Charlie Millar, Christoph
> Lange, Christophe Rhodes, Christopher Schmidt, Daniel Dehennin, Dave
> Abrahams, David Coate, David Maus, David Niemi, Dov Grobgeld, Du
> Yanning, Dunib, Elias Assarsson, Eric Abrahamsen, Eric S Fraga, Eric
> Schulte, Fabrice Pardo, Feiming Chen, François Allisson, François
> Pinard, Friedrich Delgado, Giles, Glenn Morris, Greg Troxel, Gsqual,
> Guido Arnold, Gustav Wikström, Henning Redestig, Ian Barton, Ilya
> Shlyakhter, Ingo Lohmar, Ivan Kanis, Ivars Finvers, Jack Erwin,
> Jambunathan, James Harkins, Joe Vornehm Jr., John Hendy, John Wiegley,
> Jonathan Leech-Pepin, Joost Kremers, Jose E. Marchesi, Joseph Thomas,
> Karl Berg, Ken Williams, Konstantin Ziegler, Laurynas Biveinis, Leo
> Alekseyev, Leo and Henning, Loris Bennett, Luis Anaya, Marc-Oliver Ihm,
> Marcel Van der Boom, Martin Beck, Martyn Jago, Mathias Bauer, Matt
> Lundin, Michael Heerdegen, Mike McLean, Mike McLean, Mikhail Titov,
> Mikkel Kristiansen, Moritz Ulrich, Myles English, Nick Dokos, Nicolas
> Goaziou, Noorul Islam K M, Olaf Dietsche, Paul Eggert, Paweł Menich,
> Peter Danenberg, Peter Münster, Petro Rafael, Rasmus Rempling, Richard
> Hansen, Richard Stanton, Robert Lupton the Good, Ryan Kaskel, SW, Samuel
> Wales, Sean O'Halpin, Simon Thum, Stefan Vollmar, Steinar Bang, Steve
> Revilak, Stuart McLean, Sylvain Rousseau, Sébastien Vauban, T.F. Torrey,
> Takaaki Ishikawa, Takafumi Arakaki, Tassilo Horn, Thierry Stoehr, Thomas
> S. Dye, Thomas Wallrafen, Tobias Naehring, Toby Cubitt, Tomas Grigera,
> Torsten Wagner, Uwe Brauer, Vagn Johansen, Viktor Rosenfeld, Vladimir
> Lomov, Waldemar Reusch, Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala, Zachary Jones
>
> And here are the detailed release notes:
>
>
>  Release notes of Org 7.9
>  
>
>
> New committers who signed the FSF copyright assigment
> =
>
> Welcome and thanks to these new core contributors:
>
> - Andrew Hyatt
> - Andrzej Lichnerowicz
> - Ethan Ligon
> - Feng Shu
> - George Kettleborough
> - Henning Dietmar Weiss
> - Ilya Shlyakhter
> - Ivan Kanis
> - Konrad Hinsen
> - Madan Ramakrishnan
> - Max Mikhanosha
> - Moritz Ulrich
> - Rick Frankel
> - Toby Cubitt
>
> Online documentation for hooks, commands and options
> 
>
> You can read the documentation for hooks, commands (i.e. interactive
> functions) and options (i.e. customizable variables) [online].  Clicking on a
> command/option in this ChangeLog will take you to the online documentation
> for that command/option.
>
>
> [online]: http://orgmode.org/worg/doc.html
>
> Overview of the new keybindings
> ===
>
> │ Keybinding  │ Speedy │ Command │
> ├─┼┼─┤
> │ =C─c C─x C─z=   ││ org─clock─resolve   │
> │ =C─c C─x C─q=   ││ org─clock─cancel│
> │ =C─c C─x C─x=   ││ org─clock─in─last   │
> │ =M─h=   ││ org─mark─element│
> │ =*= ││ org─agenda─bulk─mark─all│
> │ =C─c C─M─l= ││ org─insert─all─links│
> │ =C─c C─x C─M─v= ││ org─redisplay─inline─images │
> │ =C─c C─x E= │ =E=│ org─inc─effort  │
> │ │ =#=│ org─toggle─comment  │
> │ │ =:=│ org─columns │
> │ │ =W=│ Set =APPT_WARNTIME= │
>
> New build system and new packages
> =
>
> New build system
> 
>
> Achim implemented a new build system.
>
> The basic me

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread François Allisson
Hi Bastien,

Le vendredi 24 aoû 2012 à 17:48:42 (+0200), Bastien a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> I've released Org 7.9.
> 
>   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.zip
>   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.gz
>   http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html
> 
> After 1885 commits since Org 7.8, it was about time.
> 
> See the list of changes here:
> 
>   http://orgmode.org/Changes.html
> 

Excellent. I've started to use Org with the release 7.7 less than a year
ago. It was already *very* good. It is amazing to see, with this huge
list of changes, how it improved every single day since my first use of
it. *A big thank* to you and all of those who participate to this
splendid piece of emacs.

BTW, Org 7.9. compiles and runs without problem on my debian/emacs
24.2.50.1.

Cheers,

François.



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Bastien
Moritz Ulrich  writes:

> The second link seems dead to me. Maybe it should read
> 'org-7.9.tar.gz'?

Err... yes, indeed -- here it is:

  http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.tar.gz

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Bastien
Hi Eric,

Eric Schulte  writes:

> Will the new ELPA package include org-element.el and org-export.el, or
> would those require separate packaging?

We will move org-export.el into core as soon as there is no conflict
with the current export variables/functions.

That way org-export.el (which will be renamed oe.el) will be accessible
for other (GNU-or-not-GNU) ELPA packages.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Moritz Ulrich

Bastien writes:

> Hi all,
>
> I've released Org 7.9.
>
>   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.zip
>   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.gz
>   http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html
>

The second link seems dead to me. Maybe it should read 'org-7.9.tar.gz'?

--
Moritz Ulrich



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz  writes:

> However, one of the last-minute changes to the build system was to add a
> friendlier way to include stuff from contrib, 

I wish it could be even friendlier, with e.g. `make install-contrib'

:)

-- 
 Bastien, The Stubborn Git



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Bastien
Hi Rasmus,

Rasmus  writes:

> It seems doc.html on worg ins't up to date.  At least a couple of the
> links weren't working for me (the anchor didn't exists).  E.g. orgtbl
> to unicode.

http://orgmode.org/worg/doc.html only document hooks, commands and
options.  Putting all functions and variables would kill the internet.

I fixed the wrong references in http://orgmode.org/Changes.html

Thanks for spotting this!

> BTW: It should technically be possible to run org-e-ascii
> (unicode-version) on tables when sending mails via message-mode, no?
> That would be need.

Yes, I guess it is possible.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-25 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes:
> Will the new ELPA package include org-element.el and org-export.el, or
> would those require separate packaging?

The ELPA archive does not include aynthing from contrib/.  So, org-element is
included, but not org-export.

However, one of the last-minute changes to the build system was to add a
friendlier way to include stuff from contrib, so it would be easy to
package an ELPA tarfile with the new exporter included (this requires
that utils/server.mk is included from local.mk):

make ORG_ADD_CONTRIB="org-export org-e-*" elpa cleanaddcontrib

I think it should be a separate archive as long as the new exporter
isn't in core, however.


Regards,
Achim.
-- 
+<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+

Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld:
http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldSamplesExtra




Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Eric Schulte
Will the new ELPA package include org-element.el and org-export.el, or
would those require separate packaging?

Thanks,

Bastien  writes:

> Hi Thomas,
>
> t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
>
>> I'm using Org from Elpa (which is neat).  When I updated and refreshed
>> Org, I got the following error:
>>
>> Loading 
>> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/org-w3m.elc...done
>> Loading /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/org-wl.elc...done
>> Loading /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/org.elc...done
>> Cannot open load file: ob.el
>>
>> This seems strange to me because I have Org in
>> ~/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20120824, and not /Applications/Emacs.app/...
>
> It's even weirder, because the org-20120824.tar you downloaded by
> uploading contains Org 7.8.11.
>
> The Org ELPA packages is first created on http://orgmode.org
> (http://orgmode.org/pkg/daily/) then copied to http://elpa.gnu.org.
>
> I replaced org-20120824.tar with one containing Org 7.9.
>
> Perhaps first reupdate and report?
>
> HTH,

-- 
Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
Maybe try wrapping all paths in quotes and try again. On Fri, 24 Aug 2012, 
Rainer Thiel wrote:

> Is there a way to install Org 7.9 under Windows Vista?
> 
> I have written the following local.mk in the Org installation directory:
> 
> -->
> # Name of your emacs binary
> EMACS = emacs.exe
> 
> # Where local software is found
> prefix= C:/Program Files/Emacs
> 
> # Where local lisp files go.
> lispdir= $(prefix)/site-lisp/org
> 
> # Where local data files go.
> datadir = $(prefix)/etc/org
> 
> # Where info files go.
> infodir = $(prefix)/info
> <--
> 
> Those are the very setting that I used to put in the Makfile in
> previous Org versions.  Now cygwin make fails with the following
> output:
> 
> -->
> make -C doc clean;  make -C lisp clean;
> make[1]: Entering directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/doc'
> rm -f org *.pdf *.html *_letter.tex org-version.inc \
>   *.aux *.cp *.cps *.dvi *.fn *.fns *.ky *.kys *.pg *.pgs \
>   *.toc *.tp *.tps *.vr *.vrs *.log *.html *.ps
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/doc'
> make[1]: Entering directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/lisp'
> rm -f org-version.el org-install.el org-version.elc org-install.elc
> rm -f *.elc
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/lisp'
> make -C doc all;  make -C etc all;  make -C lisp all;
> make[1]: Entering directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/doc'
> org-version: N/A (N/A)
> makeinfo --no-split org.texi -o org
> makeinfo --html --number-sections --no-split -o org.html org.texi
> ../utils/manfull.pl org.html
> make[1]: ../utils/manfull.pl: Command not found
> make[1]: *** [org.html] Error 127
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/doc'
> make[1]: Entering directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/etc'
> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/etc'
> make[1]: Entering directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/lisp'
> rm -f org-version.el org-install.el org-version.elc org-install.elc
> org-version: N/A (N/A)
> Loading c:/org-7.9/lisp/org-compat.el (source)...
> Cannot open load file: ../utils/org-fixup.el
> make[1]: *** [org-version.el] Error 255
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/lisp'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
> <--
> 
> Can someone help?
> 
> Many thanks in advance
> 
> Rainer Thiel
> 
> 2012/8/24 Bastien :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've released Org 7.9.
> >
> >   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.zip
> >   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.gz
> >   http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html
> >
> > After 1885 commits since Org 7.8, it was about time.
> >
> > See the list of changes here:
> >
> >   http://orgmode.org/Changes.html
> >
> > I cannot thank all the contributors enough: especially Nicolas, for his
> > great work on org-element.el (among other nice stuff), Achim for the way
> > he patiently rethought the build mechanism (and bared with me when I was
> > being stubborn), Eric for the steady maintainance of Babel, Max for the
> > neat idea of sticky agendas, etc.
> >
> > Here is a list of people to praise for their help:
> >
> > A. Major, Aaron Peromsik, Achim Gratz, Adam Spiers, Aidan Gauland,
> > Albert, Alex Lane, Alexander Willand, Andrew Young, Anthony Lander,
> > Benjamin Motz, Bernt Hansen, Bill Jackson, Bill Wishon, Bjarte Johansen,
> > Brian J. Carlson, Brian Wood, Brian van den Broek, Carsten Dominik,
> > Charles Philip Chan, Charles Sebold, Charles, Charlie Millar, Christoph
> > Lange, Christophe Rhodes, Christopher Schmidt, Daniel Dehennin, Dave
> > Abrahams, David Coate, David Maus, David Niemi, Dov Grobgeld, Du
> > Yanning, Dunib, Elias Assarsson, Eric Abrahamsen, Eric S Fraga, Eric
> > Schulte, Fabrice Pardo, Feiming Chen, Fran?ois Allisson, Fran?ois
> > Pinard, Friedrich Delgado, Giles, Glenn Morris, Greg Troxel, Gsqual,
> > Guido Arnold, Gustav Wikstr?m, Henning Redestig, Ian Barton, Ilya
> > Shlyakhter, Ingo Lohmar, Ivan Kanis, Ivars Finvers, Jack Erwin,
> > Jambunathan, James Harkins, Joe Vornehm Jr., John Hendy, John Wiegley,
> > Jonathan Leech-Pepin, Joost Kremers, Jose E. Marchesi, Joseph Thomas,
> > Karl Berg, Ken Williams, Konstantin Ziegler, Laurynas Biveinis, Leo
> > Alekseyev, Leo and Henning, Loris Bennett, Luis Anaya, Marc-Oliver Ihm,
> > Marcel Van der Boom, Martin Beck, Martyn Jago, Mathias Bauer, Matt
> > Lundin, Michael Heerdegen, Mike McLean, Mike McLean, Mikhail Titov,
> > Mikkel Kristiansen, Moritz Ulrich, Myles English, Nick Dokos, Nicolas
> > Goaziou, Noorul Islam K M, Olaf Dietsche, Paul Eggert, Pawe? Menich,
> > Peter Danenberg, Peter M?nster, Petro Rafael, Rasmus Rempling, Richard
> > Hansen, Richard Stanton, Robert Lupton the Good, Ryan Kaskel, SW, Samuel
> > Wales, Sean O'Halpin, Simon Thum, Stefan Vollmar, Steinar Bang, Steve
> > Revilak, Stuart McLean, Sylvain Rousseau, S?bastien Vauban, T.F. Torrey,
> > Takaaki Ishikawa, Takafumi Arakaki, Tassilo Horn, Thierry Stoehr, Thomas
> > S. Dye, Thomas Wallrafen, Tobias Naehring, Toby Cubitt, Tomas Grigera,
> > Torsten Wagner, Uwe Brauer, Vagn Johansen, Viktor Rosenfeld, Vladim

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Rasmus

Congrats to the Org-team!  Great work as always!

It seems doc.html on worg ins't up to date.  At least a couple of the
links weren't working for me (the anchor didn't exists).  E.g. orgtbl
to unicode.

BTW: It should technically be possible to run org-e-ascii
(unicode-version) on tables when sending mails via message-mode, no?
That would be need.

–Rasmus

-- 
Together we'll stand, divided we'll fall




Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Rainer Thiel
Is there a way to install Org 7.9 under Windows Vista?

I have written the following local.mk in the Org installation directory:

-->
# Name of your emacs binary
EMACS   = emacs.exe

# Where local software is found
prefix  = C:/Program Files/Emacs

# Where local lisp files go.
lispdir= $(prefix)/site-lisp/org

# Where local data files go.
datadir = $(prefix)/etc/org

# Where info files go.
infodir = $(prefix)/info
<--

Those are the very setting that I used to put in the Makfile in
previous Org versions.  Now cygwin make fails with the following
output:

-->
make -C doc clean;  make -C lisp clean;
make[1]: Entering directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/doc'
rm -f org *.pdf *.html *_letter.tex org-version.inc \
  *.aux *.cp *.cps *.dvi *.fn *.fns *.ky *.kys *.pg *.pgs \
  *.toc *.tp *.tps *.vr *.vrs *.log *.html *.ps
make[1]: Leaving directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/doc'
make[1]: Entering directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/lisp'
rm -f org-version.el org-install.el org-version.elc org-install.elc
rm -f *.elc
make[1]: Leaving directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/lisp'
make -C doc all;  make -C etc all;  make -C lisp all;
make[1]: Entering directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/doc'
org-version: N/A (N/A)
makeinfo --no-split org.texi -o org
makeinfo --html --number-sections --no-split -o org.html org.texi
../utils/manfull.pl org.html
make[1]: ../utils/manfull.pl: Command not found
make[1]: *** [org.html] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/doc'
make[1]: Entering directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/etc'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/etc'
make[1]: Entering directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/lisp'
rm -f org-version.el org-install.el org-version.elc org-install.elc
org-version: N/A (N/A)
Loading c:/org-7.9/lisp/org-compat.el (source)...
Cannot open load file: ../utils/org-fixup.el
make[1]: *** [org-version.el] Error 255
make[1]: Leaving directory `/cygdrive/c/org-7.9/lisp'
make: *** [all] Error 2
<--

Can someone help?

Many thanks in advance

Rainer Thiel

2012/8/24 Bastien :
> Hi all,
>
> I've released Org 7.9.
>
>   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.zip
>   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.gz
>   http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html
>
> After 1885 commits since Org 7.8, it was about time.
>
> See the list of changes here:
>
>   http://orgmode.org/Changes.html
>
> I cannot thank all the contributors enough: especially Nicolas, for his
> great work on org-element.el (among other nice stuff), Achim for the way
> he patiently rethought the build mechanism (and bared with me when I was
> being stubborn), Eric for the steady maintainance of Babel, Max for the
> neat idea of sticky agendas, etc.
>
> Here is a list of people to praise for their help:
>
> A. Major, Aaron Peromsik, Achim Gratz, Adam Spiers, Aidan Gauland,
> Albert, Alex Lane, Alexander Willand, Andrew Young, Anthony Lander,
> Benjamin Motz, Bernt Hansen, Bill Jackson, Bill Wishon, Bjarte Johansen,
> Brian J. Carlson, Brian Wood, Brian van den Broek, Carsten Dominik,
> Charles Philip Chan, Charles Sebold, Charles, Charlie Millar, Christoph
> Lange, Christophe Rhodes, Christopher Schmidt, Daniel Dehennin, Dave
> Abrahams, David Coate, David Maus, David Niemi, Dov Grobgeld, Du
> Yanning, Dunib, Elias Assarsson, Eric Abrahamsen, Eric S Fraga, Eric
> Schulte, Fabrice Pardo, Feiming Chen, François Allisson, François
> Pinard, Friedrich Delgado, Giles, Glenn Morris, Greg Troxel, Gsqual,
> Guido Arnold, Gustav Wikström, Henning Redestig, Ian Barton, Ilya
> Shlyakhter, Ingo Lohmar, Ivan Kanis, Ivars Finvers, Jack Erwin,
> Jambunathan, James Harkins, Joe Vornehm Jr., John Hendy, John Wiegley,
> Jonathan Leech-Pepin, Joost Kremers, Jose E. Marchesi, Joseph Thomas,
> Karl Berg, Ken Williams, Konstantin Ziegler, Laurynas Biveinis, Leo
> Alekseyev, Leo and Henning, Loris Bennett, Luis Anaya, Marc-Oliver Ihm,
> Marcel Van der Boom, Martin Beck, Martyn Jago, Mathias Bauer, Matt
> Lundin, Michael Heerdegen, Mike McLean, Mike McLean, Mikhail Titov,
> Mikkel Kristiansen, Moritz Ulrich, Myles English, Nick Dokos, Nicolas
> Goaziou, Noorul Islam K M, Olaf Dietsche, Paul Eggert, Paweł Menich,
> Peter Danenberg, Peter Münster, Petro Rafael, Rasmus Rempling, Richard
> Hansen, Richard Stanton, Robert Lupton the Good, Ryan Kaskel, SW, Samuel
> Wales, Sean O'Halpin, Simon Thum, Stefan Vollmar, Steinar Bang, Steve
> Revilak, Stuart McLean, Sylvain Rousseau, Sébastien Vauban, T.F. Torrey,
> Takaaki Ishikawa, Takafumi Arakaki, Tassilo Horn, Thierry Stoehr, Thomas
> S. Dye, Thomas Wallrafen, Tobias Naehring, Toby Cubitt, Tomas Grigera,
> Torsten Wagner, Uwe Brauer, Vagn Johansen, Viktor Rosenfeld, Vladimir
> Lomov, Waldemar Reusch, Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala, Zachary Jones
>
> And here are the detailed release notes:
>
>
>  Release notes of Org 7.9
>  
>
>
> New committers who signed the FSF copyright assigment
> ==

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Igor Sosa Mayor
thanks a lot!

Je Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 05:48:42PM +0200 Bastien skribis:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've released Org 7.9.
> 
>   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.zip
>   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.gz
>   http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html
> 
> After 1885 commits since Org 7.8, it was about time.
> 
> See the list of changes here:
> 
>   http://orgmode.org/Changes.html
> 
> I cannot thank all the contributors enough: especially Nicolas, for his
> great work on org-element.el (among other nice stuff), Achim for the way
> he patiently rethought the build mechanism (and bared with me when I was
> being stubborn), Eric for the steady maintainance of Babel, Max for the
> neat idea of sticky agendas, etc.
> 
> Here is a list of people to praise for their help:
> 
> A. Major, Aaron Peromsik, Achim Gratz, Adam Spiers, Aidan Gauland,
> Albert, Alex Lane, Alexander Willand, Andrew Young, Anthony Lander,
> Benjamin Motz, Bernt Hansen, Bill Jackson, Bill Wishon, Bjarte Johansen,
> Brian J. Carlson, Brian Wood, Brian van den Broek, Carsten Dominik,
> Charles Philip Chan, Charles Sebold, Charles, Charlie Millar, Christoph
> Lange, Christophe Rhodes, Christopher Schmidt, Daniel Dehennin, Dave
> Abrahams, David Coate, David Maus, David Niemi, Dov Grobgeld, Du
> Yanning, Dunib, Elias Assarsson, Eric Abrahamsen, Eric S Fraga, Eric
> Schulte, Fabrice Pardo, Feiming Chen, François Allisson, François
> Pinard, Friedrich Delgado, Giles, Glenn Morris, Greg Troxel, Gsqual,
> Guido Arnold, Gustav Wikström, Henning Redestig, Ian Barton, Ilya
> Shlyakhter, Ingo Lohmar, Ivan Kanis, Ivars Finvers, Jack Erwin,
> Jambunathan, James Harkins, Joe Vornehm Jr., John Hendy, John Wiegley,
> Jonathan Leech-Pepin, Joost Kremers, Jose E. Marchesi, Joseph Thomas,
> Karl Berg, Ken Williams, Konstantin Ziegler, Laurynas Biveinis, Leo
> Alekseyev, Leo and Henning, Loris Bennett, Luis Anaya, Marc-Oliver Ihm,
> Marcel Van der Boom, Martin Beck, Martyn Jago, Mathias Bauer, Matt
> Lundin, Michael Heerdegen, Mike McLean, Mike McLean, Mikhail Titov,
> Mikkel Kristiansen, Moritz Ulrich, Myles English, Nick Dokos, Nicolas
> Goaziou, Noorul Islam K M, Olaf Dietsche, Paul Eggert, Paweł Menich,
> Peter Danenberg, Peter Münster, Petro Rafael, Rasmus Rempling, Richard
> Hansen, Richard Stanton, Robert Lupton the Good, Ryan Kaskel, SW, Samuel
> Wales, Sean O'Halpin, Simon Thum, Stefan Vollmar, Steinar Bang, Steve
> Revilak, Stuart McLean, Sylvain Rousseau, Sébastien Vauban, T.F. Torrey,
> Takaaki Ishikawa, Takafumi Arakaki, Tassilo Horn, Thierry Stoehr, Thomas
> S. Dye, Thomas Wallrafen, Tobias Naehring, Toby Cubitt, Tomas Grigera,
> Torsten Wagner, Uwe Brauer, Vagn Johansen, Viktor Rosenfeld, Vladimir
> Lomov, Waldemar Reusch, Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala, Zachary Jones
> 
> And here are the detailed release notes:
> 
> 
>  Release notes of Org 7.9
>  
> 
> 
> New committers who signed the FSF copyright assigment
> =
> 
> Welcome and thanks to these new core contributors:
> 
> - Andrew Hyatt
> - Andrzej Lichnerowicz
> - Ethan Ligon
> - Feng Shu
> - George Kettleborough
> - Henning Dietmar Weiss
> - Ilya Shlyakhter
> - Ivan Kanis
> - Konrad Hinsen
> - Madan Ramakrishnan
> - Max Mikhanosha
> - Moritz Ulrich
> - Rick Frankel
> - Toby Cubitt
> 
> Online documentation for hooks, commands and options
> 
> 
> You can read the documentation for hooks, commands (i.e. interactive
> functions) and options (i.e. customizable variables) [online].  Clicking on a
> command/option in this ChangeLog will take you to the online documentation
> for that command/option.
> 
> 
> [online]: http://orgmode.org/worg/doc.html
> 
> Overview of the new keybindings
> ===
> 
> │ Keybinding  │ Speedy │ Command │
> ├─┼┼─┤
> │ =C─c C─x C─z=   ││ org─clock─resolve   │
> │ =C─c C─x C─q=   ││ org─clock─cancel│
> │ =C─c C─x C─x=   ││ org─clock─in─last   │
> │ =M─h=   ││ org─mark─element│
> │ =*= ││ org─agenda─bulk─mark─all│
> │ =C─c C─M─l= ││ org─insert─all─links│
> │ =C─c C─x C─M─v= ││ org─redisplay─inline─images │
> │ =C─c C─x E= │ =E=│ org─inc─effort  │
> │ │ =#=│ org─toggle─comment  │
> │ │ =:=│ org─columns │
> │ │ =W=│ Set =APPT_WARNTIME= │
> 
> New build system and new packages
> =
> 
> New build system
> 
> 
> Achim implemented a new build system.
> 
> The basic method for installing Org is the same:
> 
> 1. Download or clone Org.
> 2. run `make install' from the Org directory.
> 3. Add (require 'org-install) in your .emacs.el.
> 
> But the build

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Rainer,

Rainer Thiel  writes:

> Those are the very setting that I used to put in the Makfile in
> previous Org versions.  Now cygwin make fails with the following
> output:

Actually double *thanks* for reporting this.

The utils/ directory was not included in previous .zip and .tar.gz
archives, and this directory is needed when building Org.

I just fixed this.

Please download again and let us know if you still have this issue.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Thomas,

t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:

> I'm using Org from Elpa (which is neat).  When I updated and refreshed
> Org, I got the following error:
>
> Loading /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/org-w3m.elc...done
> Loading /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/org-wl.elc...done
> Loading /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/org.elc...done
> Cannot open load file: ob.el
>
> This seems strange to me because I have Org in
> ~/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20120824, and not /Applications/Emacs.app/...

It's even weirder, because the org-20120824.tar you downloaded by
uploading contains Org 7.8.11.

The Org ELPA packages is first created on http://orgmode.org
(http://orgmode.org/pkg/daily/) then copied to http://elpa.gnu.org.

I replaced org-20120824.tar with one containing Org 7.9.

Perhaps first reupdate and report?

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Bastien,

Congratulations on seeing Org to 7.9.  Many thanks to Nicolas, Achim,
Eric, Max and the rest for their many contributions.

I'm using Org from Elpa (which is neat).  When I updated and refreshed
Org, I got the following error:

Loading /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/org-w3m.elc...done
Loading /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/org-wl.elc...done
Loading /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/org/org.elc...done
Cannot open load file: ob.el

This seems strange to me because I have Org in
~/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20120824, and not /Applications/Emacs.app/...

Does anybody have an idea what might be going on here?

Thanks,
Tom

Bastien  writes:

> Hi all,
>
> I've released Org 7.9.
>
>   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.zip
>   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.gz
>   http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html
>
> After 1885 commits since Org 7.8, it was about time.
>
> See the list of changes here:
>
>   http://orgmode.org/Changes.html
>
> I cannot thank all the contributors enough: especially Nicolas, for his
> great work on org-element.el (among other nice stuff), Achim for the way
> he patiently rethought the build mechanism (and bared with me when I was
> being stubborn), Eric for the steady maintainance of Babel, Max for the
> neat idea of sticky agendas, etc.
>
> Here is a list of people to praise for their help:
>
> A. Major, Aaron Peromsik, Achim Gratz, Adam Spiers, Aidan Gauland,
> Albert, Alex Lane, Alexander Willand, Andrew Young, Anthony Lander,
> Benjamin Motz, Bernt Hansen, Bill Jackson, Bill Wishon, Bjarte Johansen,
> Brian J. Carlson, Brian Wood, Brian van den Broek, Carsten Dominik,
> Charles Philip Chan, Charles Sebold, Charles, Charlie Millar, Christoph
> Lange, Christophe Rhodes, Christopher Schmidt, Daniel Dehennin, Dave
> Abrahams, David Coate, David Maus, David Niemi, Dov Grobgeld, Du
> Yanning, Dunib, Elias Assarsson, Eric Abrahamsen, Eric S Fraga, Eric
> Schulte, Fabrice Pardo, Feiming Chen, François Allisson, François
> Pinard, Friedrich Delgado, Giles, Glenn Morris, Greg Troxel, Gsqual,
> Guido Arnold, Gustav Wikström, Henning Redestig, Ian Barton, Ilya
> Shlyakhter, Ingo Lohmar, Ivan Kanis, Ivars Finvers, Jack Erwin,
> Jambunathan, James Harkins, Joe Vornehm Jr., John Hendy, John Wiegley,
> Jonathan Leech-Pepin, Joost Kremers, Jose E. Marchesi, Joseph Thomas,
> Karl Berg, Ken Williams, Konstantin Ziegler, Laurynas Biveinis, Leo
> Alekseyev, Leo and Henning, Loris Bennett, Luis Anaya, Marc-Oliver Ihm,
> Marcel Van der Boom, Martin Beck, Martyn Jago, Mathias Bauer, Matt
> Lundin, Michael Heerdegen, Mike McLean, Mike McLean, Mikhail Titov,
> Mikkel Kristiansen, Moritz Ulrich, Myles English, Nick Dokos, Nicolas
> Goaziou, Noorul Islam K M, Olaf Dietsche, Paul Eggert, Paweł Menich,
> Peter Danenberg, Peter Münster, Petro Rafael, Rasmus Rempling, Richard
> Hansen, Richard Stanton, Robert Lupton the Good, Ryan Kaskel, SW, Samuel
> Wales, Sean O'Halpin, Simon Thum, Stefan Vollmar, Steinar Bang, Steve
> Revilak, Stuart McLean, Sylvain Rousseau, Sébastien Vauban, T.F. Torrey,
> Takaaki Ishikawa, Takafumi Arakaki, Tassilo Horn, Thierry Stoehr, Thomas
> S. Dye, Thomas Wallrafen, Tobias Naehring, Toby Cubitt, Tomas Grigera,
> Torsten Wagner, Uwe Brauer, Vagn Johansen, Viktor Rosenfeld, Vladimir
> Lomov, Waldemar Reusch, Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala, Zachary Jones
>
> And here are the detailed release notes:
>
>
>  Release notes of Org 7.9
>  
>
>
> New committers who signed the FSF copyright assigment
> =
>
> Welcome and thanks to these new core contributors:
>
> - Andrew Hyatt
> - Andrzej Lichnerowicz
> - Ethan Ligon
> - Feng Shu
> - George Kettleborough
> - Henning Dietmar Weiss
> - Ilya Shlyakhter
> - Ivan Kanis
> - Konrad Hinsen
> - Madan Ramakrishnan
> - Max Mikhanosha
> - Moritz Ulrich
> - Rick Frankel
> - Toby Cubitt
>
> Online documentation for hooks, commands and options
> 
>
> You can read the documentation for hooks, commands (i.e. interactive
> functions) and options (i.e. customizable variables) [online].  Clicking on a
> command/option in this ChangeLog will take you to the online documentation
> for that command/option.
>
>
> [online]: http://orgmode.org/worg/doc.html
>
> Overview of the new keybindings
> ===
>
> │ Keybinding  │ Speedy │ Command │
> ├─┼┼─┤
> │ =C─c C─x C─z=   ││ org─clock─resolve   │
> │ =C─c C─x C─q=   ││ org─clock─cancel│
> │ =C─c C─x C─x=   ││ org─clock─in─last   │
> │ =M─h=   ││ org─mark─element│
> │ =*= ││ org─agenda─bulk─mark─all│
> │ =C─c C─M─l= ││ org─insert─all─links│
> │ =C─c C─x C─M─v= ││ org─redisplay─inline─i

Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Rainer,

Rainer Thiel  writes:

> Those are the very setting that I used to put in the Makfile in
> previous Org versions.  Now cygwin make fails with the following
> output:

Looks like you don't have the "utils/" directory.

The old "UTILITIES/" directory has been renamed to "utils/".

Please make sure that you have it and that you don't have 
anything in local relying on UTILITIES/.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Russell Adams
OMG what a long list of changes!

Kudos to everyone involved and Bastien for coordinating the release!


On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 05:48:42PM +0200, Bastien wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've released Org 7.9.
>
>   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.zip
>   http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.gz
>   http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html
>
> After 1885 commits since Org 7.8, it was about time.
>
> See the list of changes here:
>
>   http://orgmode.org/Changes.html
>
> I cannot thank all the contributors enough: especially Nicolas, for his
> great work on org-element.el (among other nice stuff), Achim for the way
> he patiently rethought the build mechanism (and bared with me when I was
> being stubborn), Eric for the steady maintainance of Babel, Max for the
> neat idea of sticky agendas, etc.
>
> Here is a list of people to praise for their help:
>
> A. Major, Aaron Peromsik, Achim Gratz, Adam Spiers, Aidan Gauland,
> Albert, Alex Lane, Alexander Willand, Andrew Young, Anthony Lander,
> Benjamin Motz, Bernt Hansen, Bill Jackson, Bill Wishon, Bjarte Johansen,
> Brian J. Carlson, Brian Wood, Brian van den Broek, Carsten Dominik,
> Charles Philip Chan, Charles Sebold, Charles, Charlie Millar, Christoph
> Lange, Christophe Rhodes, Christopher Schmidt, Daniel Dehennin, Dave
> Abrahams, David Coate, David Maus, David Niemi, Dov Grobgeld, Du
> Yanning, Dunib, Elias Assarsson, Eric Abrahamsen, Eric S Fraga, Eric
> Schulte, Fabrice Pardo, Feiming Chen, Fran??ois Allisson, Fran??ois
> Pinard, Friedrich Delgado, Giles, Glenn Morris, Greg Troxel, Gsqual,
> Guido Arnold, Gustav Wikstr??m, Henning Redestig, Ian Barton, Ilya
> Shlyakhter, Ingo Lohmar, Ivan Kanis, Ivars Finvers, Jack Erwin,
> Jambunathan, James Harkins, Joe Vornehm Jr., John Hendy, John Wiegley,
> Jonathan Leech-Pepin, Joost Kremers, Jose E. Marchesi, Joseph Thomas,
> Karl Berg, Ken Williams, Konstantin Ziegler, Laurynas Biveinis, Leo
> Alekseyev, Leo and Henning, Loris Bennett, Luis Anaya, Marc-Oliver Ihm,
> Marcel Van der Boom, Martin Beck, Martyn Jago, Mathias Bauer, Matt
> Lundin, Michael Heerdegen, Mike McLean, Mike McLean, Mikhail Titov,
> Mikkel Kristiansen, Moritz Ulrich, Myles English, Nick Dokos, Nicolas
> Goaziou, Noorul Islam K M, Olaf Dietsche, Paul Eggert, Pawe?? Menich,
> Peter Danenberg, Peter M??nster, Petro Rafael, Rasmus Rempling, Richard
> Hansen, Richard Stanton, Robert Lupton the Good, Ryan Kaskel, SW, Samuel
> Wales, Sean O'Halpin, Simon Thum, Stefan Vollmar, Steinar Bang, Steve
> Revilak, Stuart McLean, Sylvain Rousseau, S??bastien Vauban, T.F. Torrey,
> Takaaki Ishikawa, Takafumi Arakaki, Tassilo Horn, Thierry Stoehr, Thomas
> S. Dye, Thomas Wallrafen, Tobias Naehring, Toby Cubitt, Tomas Grigera,
> Torsten Wagner, Uwe Brauer, Vagn Johansen, Viktor Rosenfeld, Vladimir
> Lomov, Waldemar Reusch, Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala, Zachary Jones
>
> And here are the detailed release notes:
>
>
>  Release notes of Org 7.9
>  
>
>
> New committers who signed the FSF copyright assigment
> =
>
> Welcome and thanks to these new core contributors:
>
> - Andrew Hyatt
> - Andrzej Lichnerowicz
> - Ethan Ligon
> - Feng Shu
> - George Kettleborough
> - Henning Dietmar Weiss
> - Ilya Shlyakhter
> - Ivan Kanis
> - Konrad Hinsen
> - Madan Ramakrishnan
> - Max Mikhanosha
> - Moritz Ulrich
> - Rick Frankel
> - Toby Cubitt
>
> Online documentation for hooks, commands and options
> 
>
> You can read the documentation for hooks, commands (i.e. interactive
> functions) and options (i.e. customizable variables) [online].  Clicking on a
> command/option in this ChangeLog will take you to the online documentation
> for that command/option.
>
>
> [online]: http://orgmode.org/worg/doc.html
>
> Overview of the new keybindings
> ===
>
> ??? Keybinding  ??? Speedy ??? Command ???
> ??
> ??? =C???c C???x C???z=   ?????? org???clock???resolve   ???
> ??? =C???c C???x C???q=   ?????? org???clock???cancel???
> ??? =C???c C???x C???x=   ?????? org???clock???in???last   ???
> ??? =M???h=   ?????? org???mark???element???
> ??? =*= ?????? org???agenda???bulk???mark???all???
> ??? =C???c C???M???l= ?????? org???insert???all???links???
> ??? =C???c C???x C???M???v= ?????? org???redisplay???inline???images 
> ???
> ??? =C???c C???x E= ??? =E=??? org???inc???effort  ???
> ??? ??? =#=??? org???toggle???comment  ???
> ??? ??? =:=??? org???columns ???
> ??? ??? =W=??? Set =APPT_WARNTIME

[O] Org-mode release 7.9

2012-08-24 Thread Bastien
Hi all,

I've released Org 7.9.

  http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.zip
  http://orgmode.org/org-7.9.gz
  http://orgmode.org/org-mode-download.html

After 1885 commits since Org 7.8, it was about time.

See the list of changes here:

  http://orgmode.org/Changes.html

I cannot thank all the contributors enough: especially Nicolas, for his
great work on org-element.el (among other nice stuff), Achim for the way
he patiently rethought the build mechanism (and bared with me when I was
being stubborn), Eric for the steady maintainance of Babel, Max for the
neat idea of sticky agendas, etc.

Here is a list of people to praise for their help:

A. Major, Aaron Peromsik, Achim Gratz, Adam Spiers, Aidan Gauland,
Albert, Alex Lane, Alexander Willand, Andrew Young, Anthony Lander,
Benjamin Motz, Bernt Hansen, Bill Jackson, Bill Wishon, Bjarte Johansen,
Brian J. Carlson, Brian Wood, Brian van den Broek, Carsten Dominik,
Charles Philip Chan, Charles Sebold, Charles, Charlie Millar, Christoph
Lange, Christophe Rhodes, Christopher Schmidt, Daniel Dehennin, Dave
Abrahams, David Coate, David Maus, David Niemi, Dov Grobgeld, Du
Yanning, Dunib, Elias Assarsson, Eric Abrahamsen, Eric S Fraga, Eric
Schulte, Fabrice Pardo, Feiming Chen, François Allisson, François
Pinard, Friedrich Delgado, Giles, Glenn Morris, Greg Troxel, Gsqual,
Guido Arnold, Gustav Wikström, Henning Redestig, Ian Barton, Ilya
Shlyakhter, Ingo Lohmar, Ivan Kanis, Ivars Finvers, Jack Erwin,
Jambunathan, James Harkins, Joe Vornehm Jr., John Hendy, John Wiegley,
Jonathan Leech-Pepin, Joost Kremers, Jose E. Marchesi, Joseph Thomas,
Karl Berg, Ken Williams, Konstantin Ziegler, Laurynas Biveinis, Leo
Alekseyev, Leo and Henning, Loris Bennett, Luis Anaya, Marc-Oliver Ihm,
Marcel Van der Boom, Martin Beck, Martyn Jago, Mathias Bauer, Matt
Lundin, Michael Heerdegen, Mike McLean, Mike McLean, Mikhail Titov,
Mikkel Kristiansen, Moritz Ulrich, Myles English, Nick Dokos, Nicolas
Goaziou, Noorul Islam K M, Olaf Dietsche, Paul Eggert, Paweł Menich,
Peter Danenberg, Peter Münster, Petro Rafael, Rasmus Rempling, Richard
Hansen, Richard Stanton, Robert Lupton the Good, Ryan Kaskel, SW, Samuel
Wales, Sean O'Halpin, Simon Thum, Stefan Vollmar, Steinar Bang, Steve
Revilak, Stuart McLean, Sylvain Rousseau, Sébastien Vauban, T.F. Torrey,
Takaaki Ishikawa, Takafumi Arakaki, Tassilo Horn, Thierry Stoehr, Thomas
S. Dye, Thomas Wallrafen, Tobias Naehring, Toby Cubitt, Tomas Grigera,
Torsten Wagner, Uwe Brauer, Vagn Johansen, Viktor Rosenfeld, Vladimir
Lomov, Waldemar Reusch, Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala, Zachary Jones

And here are the detailed release notes:


 Release notes of Org 7.9
 


New committers who signed the FSF copyright assigment
=

Welcome and thanks to these new core contributors:

- Andrew Hyatt
- Andrzej Lichnerowicz
- Ethan Ligon
- Feng Shu
- George Kettleborough
- Henning Dietmar Weiss
- Ilya Shlyakhter
- Ivan Kanis
- Konrad Hinsen
- Madan Ramakrishnan
- Max Mikhanosha
- Moritz Ulrich
- Rick Frankel
- Toby Cubitt

Online documentation for hooks, commands and options


You can read the documentation for hooks, commands (i.e. interactive
functions) and options (i.e. customizable variables) [online].  Clicking on a
command/option in this ChangeLog will take you to the online documentation
for that command/option.


[online]: http://orgmode.org/worg/doc.html

Overview of the new keybindings
===

│ Keybinding  │ Speedy │ Command │
├─┼┼─┤
│ =C─c C─x C─z=   ││ org─clock─resolve   │
│ =C─c C─x C─q=   ││ org─clock─cancel│
│ =C─c C─x C─x=   ││ org─clock─in─last   │
│ =M─h=   ││ org─mark─element│
│ =*= ││ org─agenda─bulk─mark─all│
│ =C─c C─M─l= ││ org─insert─all─links│
│ =C─c C─x C─M─v= ││ org─redisplay─inline─images │
│ =C─c C─x E= │ =E=│ org─inc─effort  │
│ │ =#=│ org─toggle─comment  │
│ │ =:=│ org─columns │
│ │ =W=│ Set =APPT_WARNTIME= │

New build system and new packages
=

New build system


Achim implemented a new build system.

The basic method for installing Org is the same:

1. Download or clone Org.
2. run `make install' from the Org directory.
3. Add (require 'org-install) in your .emacs.el.

But the build system is now more flexible and can be more easily
adapted to suit your needs.

See [http://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-build-system.html] for details.

New packages in core


=org-eshell.el= by Konrad Hinsen is now in Org's core
~

=org-eshell.