Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

2014-05-24 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hello,

 Perhaps -- I don't know what LocalWords is supposed to do.

# LocalWords: allows to add words in your dictionary for that file only.

The syntax is LocalWords: prefixed by the current comment prefix.
Hence, I don't really understand why we would want to transform it in
#+ LocalWords:.

Best regards,
  Seb

-- 
Sebastien Vauban




Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

2014-05-24 Thread Bastien


Sebastien Vauban sva-news-D0wtAvR13HarG/idocf...@public.gmane.org
writes:

 The syntax is LocalWords: prefixed by the current comment prefix.
 Hence, I don't really understand why we would want to transform it in
 #+ LocalWords:.

Yes.  Putting this in a separate configuration section at the end of
the file is probably the way to go.

-- 
 Bastien




Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

2014-05-24 Thread Charles Millar

Hi Sebastien, Bastien and all,

Bastien wrote:



Sebastien Vauban sva-news-D0wtAvR13HarG/idocf...@public.gmane.org
writes:


The syntax is LocalWords: prefixed by the current comment prefix.
Hence, I don't really understand why we would want to transform it in
#+ LocalWords:.

Yes. Last evening I realized that changing # LocalWords: to
#+ LocalWords: was a terrible idea since it would be of no use for ispell.



[snip] Putting this in a separate configuration section at the end of
the file is probably the way to go.



However, I thought I would try to place # LocalWords: at the top of a 
file between any #+ KEYWORDS: and the first * headline. That way it does 
not become part of a tree/subtree.


Is this OK?

Charlie

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Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

2014-05-24 Thread Bastien
Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:

 Is this OK?

Please go ahead and tell us :)

-- 
 Bastien



[O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

2014-05-23 Thread Charles Millar

If I attempt to move headline 2b above 2a (M-up)

* 1
** 2a
** 2b

#  LocalWords:   

the result is

* 1
** 2b

#  LocalWords:   Y
** 2a


The number of lines between ** 2b and # LocalWords makes no difference 
and the headline level makes no difference. Location in the file makes 
no difference.

Flyspell-mode on


GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6002) of 2013-03-17 on MARVIN
Org-mode version 8.2.6 (release_8.2.6-1022-gc23d9e @ 
c:/cygwin/home/owner/.elisp/org-mode/lisp/)

Windows Vista SP2

Charlie Millar

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Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

2014-05-23 Thread Bastien
Hi Charles,

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:

 If I attempt to move headline 2b above 2a (M-up)

 * 1
 ** 2a
 ** 2b

 #  LocalWords:   

 the result is

 * 1
 ** 2b

 #  LocalWords:   Y
 ** 2a

Yes, #  LocalWords:   Y is part of the ** 2b headline.

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

2014-05-23 Thread Charles Millar

Hi Bastien,
Bastien wrote:

Hi Charles,

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:


If I attempt to move headline 2b above 2a (M-up)

* 1
** 2a
** 2b

#  LocalWords:   

the result is

* 1
** 2b

#  LocalWords:   Y
** 2a


Yes, #  LocalWords:   Y is part of the ** 2b headline.

Should it be as such, since # LocalWords since it is associated with 
ispell/flyspell and really has nothing to do with headline ** 2b?


Of course what I neglected to mention was that I would expect, which 
would be


* 1
** 2b
** 2a

#  LocalWords:   Y

Regards,
Charlie

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Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

2014-05-23 Thread Charles Millar

Hi, again, Bastien,
Bastien wrote:

Hi Charles,

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:


If I attempt to move headline 2b above 2a (M-up)

* 1
** 2a
** 2b

#  LocalWords:   

the result is

* 1
** 2b

#  LocalWords:   Y
** 2a


Yes, #  LocalWords:   Y is part of the ** 2b headline.



I now realize that since # LocalWords is considered part of a previous 
headline, any refile to a file that contains # LocalWords (or possibly 
any similar special construct) is placed after # LocalWords.


I would expect that the refile, at the very least, would be placed 
between the last headline and # LocalWords.


Possibly this situation could cause errors would be in exporting.

Best, Charlie

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Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

2014-05-23 Thread Brian van den Broek
On May 23, 2014 12:02 PM, Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net wrote:

 Hi Bastien,

 Bastien wrote:

 Hi Charles,

 Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:

 If I attempt to move headline 2b above 2a (M-up)

 * 1
 ** 2a
 ** 2b

 #  LocalWords:   

 the result is

 * 1
 ** 2b

 #  LocalWords:   Y
 ** 2a


 Yes, #  LocalWords:   Y is part of the ** 2b headline.

 Should it be as such, since # LocalWords since it is associated with
ispell/flyspell and really has nothing to do with headline ** 2b?

 Of course what I neglected to mention was that I would expect, which
would be

 * 1
 ** 2b
 ** 2a

 #  LocalWords:   Y

 Regards,
 Charlie

Hi Charlie and all,

As I understand the parsing of an org file, if you have a heading of level
n, everything below it until a heading of level m, m  n, is it its
subtree. Org doesn't know that you want that line at the bottom of buffer
(say) and not associated with the current headline and current active
subtrees.

Many of my org files have a final top level config headline to hold various
in-buffer settings. Would that work for your case?

Best,

Brian vdB


Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

2014-05-23 Thread Bastien
Hi Charles,

There will be no problem with comments at export time since comments
are not exported.

The way it works now is deeply into the ADN of Org, *everything*
within a subtree moves with this subtree, and nothing is *not* part
of a subtree (except text before the first headline.)

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

2014-05-23 Thread Charles Millar

Bastien and all,

Bastien wrote:

Hi Charles,

There will be no problem with comments at export time since comments
are not exported.


Thanks for the pointer concerning that # is comment in all exporting 
situations.




The way it works now is deeply into the ADN of Org, *everything*
within a subtree moves with this subtree, and nothing is *not* part
of a subtree (except text before the first headline.)



I am only now teaching myself emacs lisp and common lisp, mostly so I 
can at least try to understand the code. Based on Brian van den Broeck's 
message and my observation following his message, is it possible, 
actually is it worth the time and effort, for Org Mode only, to make # 
LocalWords: into a #+ LocalWords: into a top level buffer setting, 
and furthermore any additions would be placed into the top level setting 
and not at the end of the buffer?


Charlie

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Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

2014-05-23 Thread Bastien
Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:

 I am only now teaching myself emacs lisp and common lisp, mostly so I
 can at least try to understand the code. Based on Brian van den
 Broeck's message and my observation following his message, is it
 possible, actually is it worth the time and effort, for Org Mode only,
 to make # LocalWords: into a #+ LocalWords: into a top level
 buffer setting, and furthermore any additions would be placed into the
 top level setting and not at the end of the buffer?

Perhaps -- I don't know what LocalWords is supposed to do.
I'd say: go ahead and experiment, and tell us if it's work?

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

2014-05-23 Thread Charles Millar

Bastien wrote:

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:


I am only now teaching myself emacs lisp and common lisp, mostly so I
can at least try to understand the code. Based on Brian van den
Broeck's message and my observation following his message, is it
possible, actually is it worth the time and effort, for Org Mode only,
to make # LocalWords: into a #+ LocalWords: into a top level
buffer setting, and furthermore any additions would be placed into the
top level setting and not at the end of the buffer?


Perhaps -- I don't know what LocalWords is supposed to do.
I'd say: go ahead and experiment, and tell us if it's work?



OK I'll try.

Charlie

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