Re: [O] Questions about mail, MIME, etc.
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:05:30AM +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes: One more follow-on question. When I run org-mime-org-buffer-htmlize, I get a buffer in message mode with a nice MIME message almost ready to go. I have not specified org-mime-library, so it defaults to mml, as expected for gnus. But when I type C-c C-c to send the message, I get prompted for via with three options (which I don't remember offhand, but it was something like 'transport', 'sendmail' and 'smtp'. However, if I had previously run and quit gnus in that session, it just sends the message, badda-boom-badda-bing. Is there some minimal configuration I can add to .emacs to have the effect of running and quitting gnus to messages will send? I realize this is not so much an org-mode question, but it's related. I have these variables set, I'll bet it's one or the other that makes the difference (probably the second). (setq mail-user-agent 'gnus-user-agent) (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) Ah! Using these lines, or even just the first one, did get rid of the via: prompt, but the messages never got delivered, even though emacs said they had been sent. Then it occurred to me ... D'oh! I just added (load-file ~/.gnus.el) That worked! Sorry for the oversight. Thanks! -pd -- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com
Re: [O] Questions about mail, MIME, etc.
Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes: On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:05:30AM +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes: One more follow-on question. When I run org-mime-org-buffer-htmlize, I get a buffer in message mode with a nice MIME message almost ready to go. I have not specified org-mime-library, so it defaults to mml, as expected for gnus. But when I type C-c C-c to send the message, I get prompted for via with three options (which I don't remember offhand, but it was something like 'transport', 'sendmail' and 'smtp'. However, if I had previously run and quit gnus in that session, it just sends the message, badda-boom-badda-bing. Is there some minimal configuration I can add to .emacs to have the effect of running and quitting gnus to messages will send? I realize this is not so much an org-mode question, but it's related. I have these variables set, I'll bet it's one or the other that makes the difference (probably the second). (setq mail-user-agent 'gnus-user-agent) (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail) Ah! Using these lines, or even just the first one, did get rid of the via: prompt, but the messages never got delivered, even though emacs said they had been sent. Then it occurred to me ... D'oh! I just added (load-file ~/.gnus.el) That worked! Sorry for the oversight. Glad you've got it working!
Re: [O] Questions about mail, MIME, etc.
One more follow-on question. When I run org-mime-org-buffer-htmlize, I get a buffer in message mode with a nice MIME message almost ready to go. I have not specified org-mime-library, so it defaults to mml, as expected for gnus. But when I type C-c C-c to send the message, I get prompted for via with three options (which I don't remember offhand, but it was something like 'transport', 'sendmail' and 'smtp'. However, if I had previously run and quit gnus in that session, it just sends the message, badda-boom-badda-bing. Is there some minimal configuration I can add to .emacs to have the effect of running and quitting gnus to messages will send? I realize this is not so much an org-mode question, but it's related. Thanks! -pd -- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com
Re: [O] Questions about mail, MIME, etc.
Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes: One more follow-on question. When I run org-mime-org-buffer-htmlize, I get a buffer in message mode with a nice MIME message almost ready to go. I have not specified org-mime-library, so it defaults to mml, as expected for gnus. But when I type C-c C-c to send the message, I get prompted for via with three options (which I don't remember offhand, but it was something like 'transport', 'sendmail' and 'smtp'. However, if I had previously run and quit gnus in that session, it just sends the message, badda-boom-badda-bing. Is there some minimal configuration I can add to .emacs to have the effect of running and quitting gnus to messages will send? I realize this is not so much an org-mode question, but it's related. Thanks! -pd I have these variables set, I'll bet it's one or the other that makes the difference (probably the second). (setq mail-user-agent 'gnus-user-agent) (setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail)
[O] Questions about mail, MIME, etc.
I'd love to get mail working so I could send MIME messages right from org mode. However, I have a couple of issues/questions: 1) I tried using org-mime http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-mime.html, but when I try the command org-mime-org-buffer-htmlize, I get the error: Symbol's function definition is void: org-export-grab-title-from-buffer I think I followed the setup described on that page. Is this meant for an older version of orgmode? (I'm running 8.2.5g) 2) I actually use a number of email programs (MH, mutt, etc.), but not gnus or VM. Is there a way to get org to export the mime to a message file that I can send (as a message, not as an attachment) from some other program? 3) What I'd really like is a multipart/alternative message where one part is text/plain, and looks exactly like the emacs buffer display, and the other part is text/html, and looks like what org would export to html, complete with tables, images, etc. Thanks! -pd -- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com
Re: [O] Questions about mail, MIME, etc.
Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes: I'd love to get mail working so I could send MIME messages right from org mode. However, I have a couple of issues/questions: 1) I tried using org-mime http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-mime.html, but when I try the command org-mime-org-buffer-htmlize, I get the error: Symbol's function definition is void: org-export-grab-title-from-buffer I think I followed the setup described on that page. Is this meant for an older version of orgmode? (I'm running 8.2.5g) Yeah I got that error too, a while ago, and your message prompted me to look at it. It seems like org-mime is just a bit behind the state of org-export, and fixing that one dead function link is enough to make it work again. I've attached a patch. 2) I actually use a number of email programs (MH, mutt, etc.), but not gnus or VM. Is there a way to get org to export the mime to a message file that I can send (as a message, not as an attachment) from some other program? Generating a message buffer is pretty much hard-coded into org-mime. Once you're in that buffer, though, the (non-interactive) function mml-generate-mime will return the fully encoded mime message as a string -- you could save that to a file and do something else with it. I'm not 100% confident that's the simplest way to do that. 3) What I'd really like is a multipart/alternative message where one part is text/plain, and looks exactly like the emacs buffer display, and the other part is text/html, and looks like what org would export to html, complete with tables, images, etc. As far as I know, that's exactly what org-mime does! HTH, Eric From c967afb70bd7c9039c09d7c7f22388e1eced30fa Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 22:32:01 +0800 Subject: [PATCH] Update org-mime to current export functions * /contrib/lisp/org-mime.el (org-mime-send-buffer): This function was using `org-export-grab-title-from-buffer', which no longer exists. --- contrib/lisp/org-mime.el | 6 -- 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/contrib/lisp/org-mime.el b/contrib/lisp/org-mime.el index b0007ac..5f874d9 100644 --- a/contrib/lisp/org-mime.el +++ b/contrib/lisp/org-mime.el @@ -269,8 +269,10 @@ export that region, otherwise export the entire body. (defun org-mime-send-buffer (optional fmt) (run-hooks 'org-mime-send-buffer-hook) (let* ((region-p (org-region-active-p)) - (subject (org-export-grab-title-from-buffer)) - (file (buffer-file-name (current-buffer))) + (file (buffer-file-name (current-buffer))) + (subject (if (not file) (buffer-name (buffer-base-buffer)) + (file-name-sans-extension + (file-name-nondirectory file (body-start (or (and region-p (region-beginning)) (save-excursion (goto-char (point-min) (body-end (or (and region-p (region-end)) (point-max))) -- 1.9.2
Re: [O] Questions about mail, MIME, etc.
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 10:34:26PM +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes: I'd love to get mail working so I could send MIME messages right from org mode. However, I have a couple of issues/questions: 1) I tried using org-mime http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-mime.html, but when I try the command org-mime-org-buffer-htmlize, I get the error: Symbol's function definition is void: org-export-grab-title-from-buffer I think I followed the setup described on that page. Is this meant for an older version of orgmode? (I'm running 8.2.5g) Yeah I got that error too, a while ago, and your message prompted me to look at it. It seems like org-mime is just a bit behind the state of org-export, and fixing that one dead function link is enough to make it work again. I've attached a patch. Thanks, Eric! I'll give it a try. 2) I actually use a number of email programs (MH, mutt, etc.), but not gnus or VM. Is there a way to get org to export the mime to a message file that I can send (as a message, not as an attachment) from some other program? Generating a message buffer is pretty much hard-coded into org-mime. Once you're in that buffer, though, the (non-interactive) function mml-generate-mime will return the fully encoded mime message as a string -- you could save that to a file and do something else with it. I'm not 100% confident that's the simplest way to do that. Thanks. I suppose I can use gnus to send a message, even if I'm not using it to read mail. 3) What I'd really like is a multipart/alternative message where one part is text/plain, and looks exactly like the emacs buffer display, and the other part is text/html, and looks like what org would export to html, complete with tables, images, etc. As far as I know, that's exactly what org-mime does! Great! Thank you. -pd -- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com
Re: [O] Questions about mail, MIME, etc.
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 10:34:26PM +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes: Yeah I got that error too, a while ago, and your message prompted me to look at it. It seems like org-mime is just a bit behind the state of org-export, and fixing that one dead function link is enough to make it work again. I've attached a patch. Excellent! That worked. Thank you! Generating a message buffer is pretty much hard-coded into org-mime. Once you're in that buffer, though, the (non-interactive) function mml-generate-mime will return the fully encoded mime message as a string -- you could save that to a file and do something else with it. I'm not 100% confident that's the simplest way to do that. Ok, I was able to send the message through gnus, even though I don't (normally) use it as a mail reader. 3) What I'd really like is a multipart/alternative message where one part is text/plain, and looks exactly like the emacs buffer display, and the other part is text/html, and looks like what org would export to html, complete with tables, images, etc. As far as I know, that's exactly what org-mime does! Almost. It looks like org-mime puts the actual contents of the buffer into the text/plain part, including links, etc. that would normally be hidden on display. I think it would be more useful to make the text/plain part contain what would be output from exporting to text. But maybe that's just my preference. Thank you! -pd -- Peter Davis The Tech Curmudgeon www.techcurmudgeon.com
Re: [O] Questions about mail, MIME, etc.
Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes: On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 10:34:26PM +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com writes: Yeah I got that error too, a while ago, and your message prompted me to look at it. It seems like org-mime is just a bit behind the state of org-export, and fixing that one dead function link is enough to make it work again. I've attached a patch. Excellent! That worked. Thank you! Okay, I'll start a new thread and see if we can get the patch accepted. Generating a message buffer is pretty much hard-coded into org-mime. Once you're in that buffer, though, the (non-interactive) function mml-generate-mime will return the fully encoded mime message as a string -- you could save that to a file and do something else with it. I'm not 100% confident that's the simplest way to do that. Ok, I was able to send the message through gnus, even though I don't (normally) use it as a mail reader. 3) What I'd really like is a multipart/alternative message where one part is text/plain, and looks exactly like the emacs buffer display, and the other part is text/html, and looks like what org would export to html, complete with tables, images, etc. As far as I know, that's exactly what org-mime does! Almost. It looks like org-mime puts the actual contents of the buffer into the text/plain part, including links, etc. that would normally be hidden on display. I think it would be more useful to make the text/plain part contain what would be output from exporting to text. But maybe that's just my preference. org-mime assumes a native 'org export format for the plain text part of the email. That looks like it's hard-coded in `org-mime-compose', unfortunately. Eric
