[O] Re: Recurring items don't always show up in timeline
I've tested this now in Linux, and it fails there too. Remember, we're talking about the timeline, typically accessed by C-a L Is this something I should report to a bug log? Thanks, Mark On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:55:56 -0800, Mark S throa...@yahoo.com wrote: * CALENDAR 2011 ** TODO Pay Cell Phone Bill TriMonthly 2011-01-15 Sat +90d ** TODO [#A] Bath for dog 2011-03-10 Thu +1w :PM: ** Books due at LIB1 2011-03-24 Thu More stuff here ** Books due at LIB2 2011-03-12 Sat +1w Stuff here ** DONE Check planning schedule 2011-03-13 Sun CLOSED: [2011-03-14 Mon 06:38] - State DONE from TODO [2011-03-14 Mon 06:38] ** TODO Recharge electrical equipment 2011-03-13 Sun +1w ** TODO Orthodontist Visit 2011-03-13 ** Book Fair 2011-03-24 Thu :Child1: ** Do this every 3 months 2011-03-28 Mon +90d ** Parent Teacher Conference Days 2011-03-31 Thu--2011-04-07 Thu :Child1: ** Spring Break 2011-04-11 Mon--2011-04-22 Fri :Child1: ** PTA Picnic 2011-05-20 Fri :Child1: ** Memorial Day 2011-05-30 Mon ** Summer begins 2011-06-02 Thu :Child1: ** Harry Potter's Birthday 2011-07-31 Sun
Re: [O] Re: Recurring items don't always show up in timeline
Hi Mark On 2011-03-14 22:36, Mark S wrote: Are there any other dates in your calendar? Have you tried it with +90d? Yes, oodles of other dates. My initial test was with +90d. And looking through 2011, I saw the four dates listed in my previous reply. Will try your sample data. -- Chris Randle
Re: [O] Re: Recurring items don't always show up in timeline
Hi Mark On 2011-03-14 22:55, Mark S wrote: Here's a version of the calendar I'm using. There are two date ranges as well as regular dates. It might be that recurring events that occur on days that are inside of a date range do not show up. On mine, Bath for dog doesn't show up on April 14th, for instance which happens to be inside of a date range. The Pay Cell Phone item does not occur 90 days later (about 4/15) which would also be inside of a date range. BUT it also does not occur on or near 7/15, which is not inside of a date range. The Do this every 3 months item does not show up in June, even though it would not fall inside of a date range. I've pasted your sample Org-mode data into my Org-mode file after first deleting everything I had in there; i.e. nothing but your data but with my .emacs file and settings. TODO Pay Cell Phone Bill TriMonthly 2011-01-15 Sat +90d showed up (using C-c a a) 2011-01-15, 2011-04-15, 2011-07-14, 2011-10-12, 2012-01-10, etc. The entry for 2011-04-15 appeared together with ranged entry (5/12) of Spring Break. TODO [#A] Bath for dog 2011-03-10 Thu +1w appeared every Thursday, including 2011-04-14. Do this every 3 months 2011-03-28 Mon +90d appeared on 2011-03-28, 2011-06-26, 2011-09-24, 2011-12-23, 2012-03-22, etc. So, it all seems to work OK here. Sorry I don't know what to suggest to try at your end other than the usual things about reverting to minimal .emacs and putting things back in one at a time. Also, making sure that there isn't a clash between compiled units/modules and .el files. That's something I can't comment on as I don't compile my Org-mode, just run from the .el files. -- Chris Randle
[O] Re: Recurring items don't always show up in timeline
Hi Chris, You say showed up using C-a a Yes, but what about the Timeline? C-a L The problem with the C-a a view is that you have to walk through the calendar week by week. The timeline would be better for scheduling events far out in the future -- if it worked. Thanks again, Mark --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Chris Randle ch...@amlog.co.uk wrote: From: Chris Randle ch...@amlog.co.uk Subject: Re: [O] Re: Recurring items don't always show up in timeline To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 8:57 AM Hi Mark On 2011-03-14 22:55, Mark S wrote: Here's a version of the calendar I'm using. There are two date ranges as well as regular dates. It might be that recurring events that occur on days that are inside of a date range do not show up. On mine, Bath for dog doesn't show up on April 14th, for instance which happens to be inside of a date range. The Pay Cell Phone item does not occur 90 days later (about 4/15) which would also be inside of a date range. BUT it also does not occur on or near 7/15, which is not inside of a date range. The Do this every 3 months item does not show up in June, even though it would not fall inside of a date range. I've pasted your sample Org-mode data into my Org-mode file after first deleting everything I had in there; i.e. nothing but your data but with my .emacs file and settings. TODO Pay Cell Phone Bill TriMonthly 2011-01-15 Sat +90d showed up (using C-c a a) 2011-01-15, 2011-04-15, 2011-07-14, 2011-10-12, 2012-01-10, etc. The entry for 2011-04-15 appeared together with ranged entry (5/12) of Spring Break. TODO [#A] Bath for dog 2011-03-10 Thu +1w appeared every Thursday, including 2011-04-14. Do this every 3 months 2011-03-28 Mon +90d appeared on 2011-03-28, 2011-06-26, 2011-09-24, 2011-12-23, 2012-03-22, etc. So, it all seems to work OK here. Sorry I don't know what to suggest to try at your end other than the usual things about reverting to minimal .emacs and putting things back in one at a time. Also, making sure that there isn't a clash between compiled units/modules and .el files. That's something I can't comment on as I don't compile my Org-mode, just run from the .el files. -- Chris Randle
Re: [O] Re: Recurring items don't always show up in timeline
Chris Randle ch...@amlog.co.uk wrote: Hi Mark On 2011-03-14 22:55, Mark S wrote: Here's a version of the calendar I'm using. There are two date ranges as well as regular dates. It might be that recurring events that occur on days that are inside of a date range do not show up. On mine, Bath for dog doesn't show up on April 14th, for instance which happens to be inside of a date range. The Pay Cell Phone item does not occur 90 days later (about 4/15) which would also be inside of a date range. BUT it also does not occur on or near 7/15, which is not inside of a date range. The Do this every 3 months item does not show up in June, even though it would not fall inside of a date range. I've pasted your sample Org-mode data into my Org-mode file after first deleting everything I had in there; i.e. nothing but your data but with my .emacs file and settings. TODO Pay Cell Phone Bill TriMonthly 2011-01-15 Sat +90d showed up (using C-c a a) I think Mark is using C-c a L to get the timeline: that's where the problem lies. C-c a a works fine. Nick
Re: [O] Re: Recurring items don't always show up in timeline
Hi Nick and Mark On 2011-03-15 16:59, Nick Dokos wrote: I think Mark is using C-c a L to get the timeline: that's where the problem lies. C-c a a works fine. Oh . Sorry for all the noise. I was really unobservant. I've never used C-c a L so I'd just assumed there was only one agenda view with dated entries. Trying again (using C-c a L). All expected dates listed, but those that did *not* appear are in parentheses: TODO Pay Cell Phone Bill TriMonthly 2011-01-15 Sat +90d Results: 2011-01-15, (2011-04-15), (2011-07-14) TODO [#A] Bath for dog 2011-03-10 Thu +1w Results: 2011-03-10, (2011-03-17), 2011-03-24, 2011-03-31, 2011-04-07, (2011-04-14)...and 6 more intervening weeks missing...2011-06-02...and then 8 more missing (up to 2011-07-31) Do this every 3 months 2011-03-28 Mon +90d Results: 2011-03-28, (2011-06-26) The timeline stopped at 2011-07-31, I assume because that's the last actual date in the file. Adding another entry * End of year 2011-12-31 to force another 5 months, and redoing the Timeline added no extra repeating items at all, just the End of year entry preceeded by [... 153 empty days omitted] So my results agree with yours, Mark. Sorry again for previously adding confusion to the mix. -- Chris Randle
Re: [O] Re: Recurring items don't always show up in timeline
Hi Mark On 2011-03-15 17:34, Mark S wrote: You say showed up using C-a a Yes, but what about the Timeline? C-a L So sorry, complete misunderstanding. Please see my reply to Nick Dokos's earlier post pointing out my mistake. -- Chris Randle
[O] Re: Recurring items don't always show up in timeline
Hi Chris, Are there any other dates in your calendar? Have you tried it with +90d? Thanks, Mark Emacs 23.2.1 | Win XP | Org-mode 7.5 On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:02:14 -0800, Mark S throa...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Chris Randle ch...@amlog.co.uk wrote: From: Chris Randle ch...@amlog.co.uk Subject: Re: [O] Recurring items don't always show up in timeline To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 1:36 PM Hi Mark On 2011-03-14 19:02, Mark S wrote: Has anyone else seen this? Working OK here. I get entries in 2011 for: 2011-01-15 2011-04-15 2011-07-14 2011-10-12 and switching to +1w, I see an entry every Saturday. I'm running the same s/w as you, I think Windows XP Pro SP3 GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2010-05-08 on G41R2F1 Org-mode version 7.5 (d/l from Org-mode site, not from Git) -- Chris Randle -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
[O] Re: Recurring items don't always show up in timeline
Here's a version of the calendar I'm using. There are two date ranges as well as regular dates. It might be that recurring events that occur on days that are inside of a date range do not show up. On mine, Bath for dog doesn't show up on April 14th, for instance which happens to be inside of a date range. The Pay Cell Phone item does not occur 90 days later (about 4/15) which would also be inside of a date range. BUT it also does not occur on or near 7/15, which is not inside of a date range. The Do this every 3 months item does not show up in June, even though it would not fall inside of a date range. Mark * CALENDAR 2011 ** TODO Pay Cell Phone Bill TriMonthly 2011-01-15 Sat +90d ** TODO [#A] Bath for dog 2011-03-10 Thu +1w :PM: ** Books due at LIB1 2011-03-24 Thu More stuff here ** Books due at LIB2 2011-03-12 Sat +1w Stuff here ** DONE Check planning schedule 2011-03-13 Sun CLOSED: [2011-03-14 Mon 06:38] - State DONE from TODO [2011-03-14 Mon 06:38] ** TODO Recharge electrical equipment 2011-03-13 Sun +1w ** TODO Orthodontist Visit 2011-03-13 ** Book Fair 2011-03-24 Thu :Child1: ** Do this every 3 months 2011-03-28 Mon +90d ** Parent Teacher Conference Days 2011-03-31 Thu--2011-04-07 Thu :Child1: ** Spring Break 2011-04-11 Mon--2011-04-22 Fri :Child1: ** PTA Picnic 2011-05-20 Fri :Child1: ** Memorial Day 2011-05-30 Mon ** Summer begins 2011-06-02 Thu :Child1: ** Harry Potter's Birthday 2011-07-31 Sun On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:02:14 -0800, Mark S throa...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a very simple calendar ORG file set up. A couple of the items have recurring days set to 90d. Like ** Do something periodically 2011-01-15 Sat +90d When I activate the agenda timeline, I see the first one of these (in January) but none of the other scheduled events show up. (I have other scheduled items to create a calendar that goes out further than the 90 days). If I view this in the regular weekly agenda, using f to step through the weeks, the item does show up. If I change the setting to +1w, I see several more entries, but not one for every week. Some weeks are skipped. It seems hit and miss. I haven't been able to establish the exact pattern, but it appears that I can not depend on recurring items to show up in the timeline. Has anyone else seen this? Is there a way to make all activities show up in the timeline? Thanks, Mark Emacs 23.2.1 Win XP Org-mode 7.5 -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [O] Re: Recurring items don't always show up in timeline
Mark S throa...@yahoo.com wrote: Here's a version of the calendar I'm using. There are two date ranges as well as regular dates. It might be that recurring events that occur on days that are inside of a date range do not show up. On mine, Bath for dog doesn't show up on April 14th, for instance which happens to be inside of a date range. The Pay Cell Phone item does not occur 90 days later (about 4/15) which would also be inside of a date range. BUT it also does not occur on or near 7/15, which is not inside of a date range. The Do this every 3 months item does not show up in June, even though it would not fall inside of a date range. Mark * CALENDAR 2011 ** TODO Pay Cell Phone Bill TriMonthly 2011-01-15 Sat +90d ** TODO [#A] Bath for dog 2011-03-10 Thu +1w :PM: ** Books due at LIB1 2011-03-24 Thu More stuff here ** Books due at LIB2 2011-03-12 Sat +1w Stuff here ** DONE Check planning schedule 2011-03-13 Sun CLOSED: [2011-03-14 Mon 06:38] - State DONE from TODO [2011-03-14 Mon 06:38] ** TODO Recharge electrical equipment 2011-03-13 Sun +1w ** TODO Orthodontist Visit 2011-03-13 ** Book Fair 2011-03-24 Thu :Child1: ** Do this every 3 months 2011-03-28 Mon +90d ** Parent Teacher Conference Days 2011-03-31 Thu--2011-04-07 Thu :Child1: ** Spring Break 2011-04-11 Mon--2011-04-22 Fri :Child1: ** PTA Picnic 2011-05-20 Fri :Child1: ** Memorial Day 2011-05-30 Mon ** Summer begins 2011-06-02 Thu :Child1: ** Harry Potter's Birthday 2011-07-31 Sun On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:02:14 -0800, Mark S throa...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a very simple calendar ORG file set up. A couple of the items have recurring days set to 90d. Like ** Do something periodically 2011-01-15 Sat +90d When I activate the agenda timeline, I see the first one of these (in January) but none of the other scheduled events show up. (I have other scheduled items to create a calendar that goes out further than the 90 days). If I view this in the regular weekly agenda, using f to step through the weeks, the item does show up. If I change the setting to +1w, I see several more entries, but not one for every week. Some weeks are skipped. It seems hit and miss. I haven't been able to establish the exact pattern, but it appears that I can not depend on recurring items to show up in the timeline. Has anyone else seen this? Is there a way to make all activities show up in the timeline? Thanks, Mark Emacs 23.2.1 Win XP Org-mode 7.5 OK, I couldn't see any problems at first, and I didn't know about the timeline view - never used it before (C-c a L in the default setup) - but I think I can reproduce something like this (I haven't checked in detail) with the above file and a minimal.emacs similar to this (paths need to be modified): --8---cut here---start-8--- (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name ~/src/emacs/org/org-mode/lisp)) (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '(\\.\\(org\\|org_archive\\|txt\\)$ . org-mode)) (require 'org-install) (global-set-key \C-cl 'org-store-link) (global-set-key \C-ca 'org-agenda) ;; modify the path to point to the file above (setq org-agenda-files '(~/src/org/misc/marks/foo.org)) --8---cut here---end---8--- Nick
