Re: [O] Relation between todo-mode.el and Org-mode?

2013-06-30 Thread Bastien
Hi Stephen,

Stephen Berman stephen.ber...@gmx.net writes:

 Since I became the maintainer more than four years ago there haven't
 been any bug reports or feature requests, and there were few prior to
 that.  The ones there were, years before, were what got me interested in
 Todo mode in the first place.  I don't know of any users of the old
 version.  I think it had a nice UI but limited functionality, so I'd
 guess most people who want to manage todo lists in Emacs already use Org
 mode.  I guess I'm an exception, because I had already started adding
 functionality to Todo mode before Org mode existed and that kept me
 sticking with it.

Thanks for the answer.  I hope other orgers will be curious enough to
test todo-mode.el!

Best,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Relation between todo-mode.el and Org-mode?

2013-06-28 Thread Stephen Berman
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 17:32:17 +0200 Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote:

 Just one question: do you get feedback from todo-mode.el users?
 Do you know if there are some/many out there?  Just curious to
 see other's people use.

Since I became the maintainer more than four years ago there haven't
been any bug reports or feature requests, and there were few prior to
that.  The ones there were, years before, were what got me interested in
Todo mode in the first place.  I don't know of any users of the old
version.  I think it had a nice UI but limited functionality, so I'd
guess most people who want to manage todo lists in Emacs already use Org
mode.  I guess I'm an exception, because I had already started adding
functionality to Todo mode before Org mode existed and that kept me
sticking with it.

Steve Berman



Re: [O] Relation between todo-mode.el and Org-mode?

2013-06-27 Thread Bastien
Hi Stephen,

Stephen Berman stephen.ber...@gmx.net writes:

 Maybe I'll give Org another try.

Glad to have you on this list -- I'm one of those who is curious
about todo-mode.el and I'll try to try (sic) one day.

Just one question: do you get feedback from todo-mode.el users?
Do you know if there are some/many out there?  Just curious to
see other's people use.

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] Relation between todo-mode.el and Org-mode?

2013-06-14 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Stephen Berman stephen.ber...@gmx.net writes:

 On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:01:14 +0200 Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote:

 on the 'emacs-devel' mailing list I saw the announcement of a new
 version of `todo-mode.el', which I found a bit surprising - I would not
 have expected that something else as Org-mode is used nowadays to manage
 todo lists with Emacs?

 How is the relation between these two packages - if there is any?
 Anybody with more insights?

 I'm the one who wrote the new version of todo-mode.el and I didn't make
 any attempt to borrow features or code from Org mode, which I know very
 little about.  I started using, and making changes to, Todo mode well
 before Org existed.  After Org appeared I briefly looked at its todo
 list UI, but I was used to and liked Todo mode's UI and handling of todo
 lists and Org's UI and handling didn't appeal to me as much for the way
 I use todo lists, so I didn't try using it any further, and because I
 kept working on Todo mode, changing it to suit my needs, I haven't felt
 compelled to try Org again.  I know, of course, that Org does a lot more
 than todo lists.  I've been casually monitoring this list for a couple
 of months, but due to my unfamiliarity can't follow most of the
 discussions.  Maybe I'll give Org another try.

Ok, thanks for the info, a bit of package competition can't do no harm,
and since envy is a strong motivation, some of the better features of
one package might be ported later on to the other package too (see vim
vs. emacs).

I was just confused to read about an Emacs todo-mode without any
mentioning of Org-mode - now the context is clearer. 

-- 
cheers,
Thorsten




Re: [O] Relation between todo-mode.el and Org-mode?

2013-06-13 Thread Stephen Berman
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:01:14 +0200 Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote:

 on the 'emacs-devel' mailing list I saw the announcement of a new
 version of `todo-mode.el', which I found a bit surprising - I would not
 have expected that something else as Org-mode is used nowadays to manage
 todo lists with Emacs?

 How is the relation between these two packages - if there is any?
 Anybody with more insights?

I'm the one who wrote the new version of todo-mode.el and I didn't make
any attempt to borrow features or code from Org mode, which I know very
little about.  I started using, and making changes to, Todo mode well
before Org existed.  After Org appeared I briefly looked at its todo
list UI, but I was used to and liked Todo mode's UI and handling of todo
lists and Org's UI and handling didn't appeal to me as much for the way
I use todo lists, so I didn't try using it any further, and because I
kept working on Todo mode, changing it to suit my needs, I haven't felt
compelled to try Org again.  I know, of course, that Org does a lot more
than todo lists.  I've been casually monitoring this list for a couple
of months, but due to my unfamiliarity can't follow most of the
discussions.  Maybe I'll give Org another try.

Steve Berman




[O] Relation between todo-mode.el and Org-mode?

2013-06-12 Thread Thorsten Jolitz

Hi List, 

on the 'emacs-devel' mailing list I saw the announcement of a new
version of `todo-mode.el', which I found a bit surprising - I would not
have expected that something else as Org-mode is used nowadays to manage
todo lists with Emacs?

How is the relation between these two packages - if there is any?
Anybody with more insights?

-- 
cheers,
Thorsten





Re: [O] Relation between todo-mode.el and Org-mode?

2013-06-12 Thread Bastien
Hi Thorsten,

Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com writes:

 How is the relation between these two packages - if there is any?

To my knowledge, there is no relation -- I'd be curious to know
if anyone on this list has been testing/using it.

 Anybody with more insights?

Not from my side, but given the lengthy manual that the maintainer
posted, I put this on my list of stuff to test.  I may report my
experience in testing this if this is useful!

-- 
 Bastien