Re: [O] Suddenly, my timestamps get localized!
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn wrote: Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes: What's going on? I even have no glue how org/emacs (correctly) guesses that I'm German. My locale is en_US.UTF-8... Found in my .emacs: #+begin_src emacs-lisp ;; system locale to use for formatting time values (e.g., timestamps in ;; Org mode files) (setq system-time-locale C) ;; en_US.utf8 did not work for the weekday in the agenda! #+end_src Ok, that does the trick. It was nil before. And (setq system-time-locale (getenv LANG)) resulting in en_US.utf8 seems to work as well. What did not work for you in the agenda? When I wrote (months ago) did not work, I meant: I got French weekdays in my agenda (Lun. for Monday, Mar., Mer., etc. -- even on 4 characters). I could retry... but I don't have UTF8 specified in my LANG var. I should do add it, I guess. Just to confirm: (setq system-time-locale (getenv en_US.utf8)) in my .emacs is not working for me: I get French timestamps (I mean: weekday abbreviations) in Org (on `C-c .', for example). Setting it back, on-the-fly (with `C-x C-e') to C works: I get English timestamps. Though, setting it back once again to en_US.utf8 works as well: I now still get English timestamps!? That seems to indicate that setting that var before Org or after Org doesn't provide me with the same view. I say Org, but maybe it's before or after another one. Should be investigated, but not that clear anymore... PS- I'm on Windows XP, with a win32 binary from FSF. (and Cygwin for the subshell, but Emacs is not launched from it). Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban
Re: [O] Suddenly, my timestamps get localized!
Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes: Hi Sebastien, Just to confirm: (setq system-time-locale (getenv en_US.utf8)) in my .emacs is not working for me: I get French timestamps (I mean: weekday abbreviations) in Org (on `C-c .', for example). Well, that line above tries to get the value of the environment variable en_US.utf8. There is no such variable, so `getenv' returns nil leaving you with the default setting of `system-time-locale'. Setting it back, on-the-fly (with `C-x C-e') to C works: I get English timestamps. Though, setting it back once again to en_US.utf8 works as well: I now still get English timestamps!? See. ;-) Bye, Tassilo
Re: [O] Suddenly, my timestamps get localized!
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn wrote: Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes: Just to confirm: (setq system-time-locale (getenv en_US.utf8)) in my .emacs is not working for me: I get French timestamps (I mean: weekday abbreviations) in Org (on `C-c .', for example). Well, that line above tries to get the value of the environment variable en_US.utf8. There is no such variable, so `getenv' returns nil leaving you with the default setting of `system-time-locale'. No. Sorry, I just edited directly in the mail, when answering... but was apparently too fast (or I just didn't read it carefully before sending it). If can assure you I had (the effect of): (setq system-time-locale en_US.utf8) in my .emacs. The real lines in my .emacs were: #+begin_src emacs-lisp ;; specify your character-set locale (setenv LANG en_US.utf8) ;; system locale to use for formatting time values (e.g., timestamps in ;; Org mode files) (setq system-time-locale (getenv LANG)) #+end_src Why setting LANG? Because that environment variable doesn't exist on Windows, and was needed to quiet SVN (stop reporting warnings). Setting it back, on-the-fly (with `C-x C-e') to C works: I get English timestamps. Though, setting it back once again to en_US.utf8 works as well: I now still get English timestamps!? See. ;-) Case still open (for understanding it fully, on my side: why setting it early in my .emacs file is different than setting it afterward). Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban
[O] Suddenly, my timestamps get localized!
Hi all, when I insert a new timestame, I now get 2011-10-25 Di while it used to be 2011-10-25 Tue until very recently. (Di is Dienstag which is German for Tuesday). I've briefly grepped the org source code, but I cannot see any localization there. What's going on? I even have no glue how org/emacs (correctly) guesses that I'm German. My locale is en_US.UTF-8... Bye, Tassilo
Re: [O] Suddenly, my timestamps get localized!
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn wrote: when I insert a new timestame, I now get 2011-10-25 Di while it used to be 2011-10-25 Tue until very recently. (Di is Dienstag which is German for Tuesday). I've briefly grepped the org source code, but I cannot see any localization there. What's going on? I even have no glue how org/emacs (correctly) guesses that I'm German. My locale is en_US.UTF-8... Found in my .emacs: #+begin_src emacs-lisp ;; system locale to use for formatting time values (e.g., timestamps in ;; Org mode files) (setq system-time-locale C) ;; en_US.utf8 did not work for the weekday in the agenda! #+end_src Now, the question is: why did it change on your machine? New Emacs, new Cygwin (if on Windows)? See discussion http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2011-09/msg6.html on Cygwin (though I don't know what to understand from it...). Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban
Re: [O] Suddenly, my timestamps get localized!
Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes: Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn wrote: when I insert a new timestame, I now get 2011-10-25 Di while it used to be 2011-10-25 Tue until very recently. (Di is Dienstag which is German for Tuesday). I've briefly grepped the org source code, but I cannot see any localization there. What's going on? I even have no glue how org/emacs (correctly) guesses that I'm German. My locale is en_US.UTF-8... Found in my .emacs: #+begin_src emacs-lisp ;; system locale to use for formatting time values (e.g., timestamps in ;; Org mode files) (setq system-time-locale C) ;; en_US.utf8 did not work for the weekday in the agenda! #+end_src Now, the question is: why did it change on your machine? New Emacs, new Cygwin (if on Windows)? See discussion http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2011-09/msg6.html on Cygwin (though I don't know what to understand from it...). Or updated localisation catalogs. I've also put (setq system-time-locale C) in my .emacs-en because that is the only sane settings if you move your org-files between accounts in any kind of way. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2 FLOSS Engineer -- AVASYS CORPORATION FSF Associate Member #1962 Help support software freedom http://www.fsf.org/jf?referrer=1962
Re: [O] Suddenly, my timestamps get localized!
Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes: Hi Sebastien, What's going on? I even have no glue how org/emacs (correctly) guesses that I'm German. My locale is en_US.UTF-8... Found in my .emacs: #+begin_src emacs-lisp ;; system locale to use for formatting time values (e.g., timestamps in ;; Org mode files) (setq system-time-locale C) ;; en_US.utf8 did not work for the weekday in the agenda! #+end_src Ok, that does the trick. It was nil before. And (setq system-time-locale (getenv LANG)) resulting in en_US.utf8 seems to work as well. What did not work for you in the agenda? Now, the question is: why did it change on your machine? New Emacs, new Cygwin (if on Windows)? I'm on GNU/Linux and update my emacs bzr and org git checkouts about thrice a week. All I can say is that a week ago, timestamps where English (or at least I didn't notice). Bye, Tassilo
Re: [O] Suddenly, my timestamps get localized!
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn wrote: Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes: What's going on? I even have no glue how org/emacs (correctly) guesses that I'm German. My locale is en_US.UTF-8... Found in my .emacs: #+begin_src emacs-lisp ;; system locale to use for formatting time values (e.g., timestamps in ;; Org mode files) (setq system-time-locale C) ;; en_US.utf8 did not work for the weekday in the agenda! #+end_src Ok, that does the trick. It was nil before. Good to know! And (setq system-time-locale (getenv LANG)) resulting in en_US.utf8 seems to work as well. What did not work for you in the agenda? When I wrote (months ago) did not work, I meant: I got French weekdays in my agenda (Lun. for Monday, Mar., Mer., etc. -- even on 4 characters). I could retry... but I don't have UTF8 specified in my LANG var. I should do add it, I guess. Best regards, Seb PS- I'm on Windows XP, with a win32 binary from FSF. -- Sebastien Vauban
Re: [O] Suddenly, my timestamps get localized!
Sebastien Vauban wxhgmqzgw...@spammotel.com writes: And (setq system-time-locale (getenv LANG)) resulting in en_US.utf8 seems to work as well. What did not work for you in the agenda? When I wrote (months ago) did not work, I meant: I got French weekdays in my agenda (Lun. for Monday, Mar., Mer., etc. -- even on 4 characters). With system-time-locale nil, I got Mo, Di, Mi,... only in the timestamps while the agenda was still Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday... Bye, Tassilo
