Hi all,
Achim Gratz writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>> What does this mean?
>
> What I said: don't load any part of Org until you have installed the
> ELPA package. This usually means not to run any startup scripts.
I've know made this clearer in the manual.
Nicolas Richard writes:
>> The
David Masterson writes:
> Hmmm. I would think that this process might work as well:
>
> 1. Start with "emacs -Q"
This fails with some older versions of Emacs since these had a bug where
parts of the init scripts were processed even when you said explicitly
that they shouldn't be read.
> 2. Bring
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>
>> Achim Gratz writes:
>>
>>> David Masterson writes:
Something doesn't seem right and I'm sure I'm missing some key in
understanding how its supposed to work. What I see right now seems like
something doesn't mat
Thank you for this discussion, John, David and others.
When installing a new distro, it sure seems wise to not include
the Org options at Emacs install time (Ubuntu installers I use).
And to set up the Org location and Git system soonest.
David Masterson writes:
> What does this mean?
What I said: don't load any part of Org until you have installed the
ELPA package. This usually means not to run any startup scripts.
> Does this mean you expect people to build Emacs
> from scratch just to ensure they do not have Org built-in?
I d
David Masterson writes:
> Achim Gratz writes:
>
>> David Masterson writes:
>>> Something doesn't seem right and I'm sure I'm missing some key in
>>> understanding how its supposed to work. What I see right now seems like
>>> something doesn't match up -- particularly with the Org package:
>>>
>
Achim Gratz writes:
> David Masterson writes:
>> Something doesn't seem right and I'm sure I'm missing some key in
>> understanding how its supposed to work. What I see right now seems like
>> something doesn't match up -- particularly with the Org package:
>>
>> 1. Most modern Emacs have Org pr
Achim Gratz writes:
>> 1. Most modern Emacs have Org pre-installed.
>> 2. Unfortunately, that Org is not up-to-date (24.3 has 7.9.3f).
>> 3. Therefore, installing the latest Org package seems natural.
>
> The pitfall here is that you _must_ do the first install of the Org
> package from an Emacs t
David Masterson writes:
> I still need more understanding of the Emacs packaging system.
That's a question you better ask of the Emacs developers, after you've
read the documentation.
> Something doesn't seem right and I'm sure I'm missing some key in
> understanding how its supposed to work. Wh
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 9:32 PM, David Masterson wrote:
> Do you see where I'm heading?
Yes. As stated above, Worg has nice instructions. My experience has
been that once you
start using org you end up wanting different lots of different
packages, and some that are very up to date. I ended up usi
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 11:10 PM, David Masterson wrote:
> John Hendy writes:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 9:32 PM, David Masterson wrote:
>
>>> I still need more understanding of the Emacs packaging system.
>>> Something doesn't seem right and I'm sure I'm missing some key in
>>> understanding ho
David Masterson writes:
> [ELPA's] minus is that it moves the package setup *somewhat* out of
> .emacs and into the after-init area.
This point is recognized and addressed by el-get:
https://github.com/dimitri/el-get
John Hendy writes:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 9:32 PM, David Masterson wrote:
>> I still need more understanding of the Emacs packaging system.
>> Something doesn't seem right and I'm sure I'm missing some key in
>> understanding how its supposed to work. What I see right now seems like
>> someth
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 9:32 PM, David Masterson wrote:
> I still need more understanding of the Emacs packaging system.
> Something doesn't seem right and I'm sure I'm missing some key in
> understanding how its supposed to work. What I see right now seems like
> something doesn't match up -- pa
I still need more understanding of the Emacs packaging system.
Something doesn't seem right and I'm sure I'm missing some key in
understanding how its supposed to work. What I see right now seems like
something doesn't match up -- particularly with the Org package:
1. Most modern Emacs have Org p
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