Re: [O] Yet another question about email and org-mode

2013-11-05 Thread Alan E. Davis
I appreciate the input, but did not understand how to make my case work.
Thank you to those who responded so unselfishly.   I thought I would now
dredge up the thread to redirect this, and a couple of other questions
about email.

All I want it a copy of my outgoing email and threads thereof (I use Gmail)
to be present on my system, so I can search easily.   I discovered the
variable message-send-rename function which should make it relatively
easy to set something up.  I envision recovering the name of the recipient
from the first lines of the message, or else just using the email address
as a postfix to save the message in a certain directory, easily accessible
from org-mode.

Incidentally, the function oog was useful to me for a long time, but for
a long while I have been unable to use it.  Everytime the following message
is typed out in the minibuffer:  Wrong type argument: markerp, nil.

Another recent issue for me was that my message buffer wasn't saved, when
an unusual event happend on my Arch Linux box, using openbox window
manager: emacs locked up, when I was editing a message.  It was a long
letter related to an employment application, and, as far as I've been able
to discover, it was not autosaved at any time duirng the editing of this
message (an your or two.)   Unusual, especially when I not that an autosave
directory has been enabled for messages, by default.

I would like to ask whether someone who understands email can give some
advice about these three issues?

Alan



On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes:

  On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:24:18AM -0700, Josiah Schwab wrote:
  Hi Alan,
 
 
   I am happy to use native emacs mail, for sending email.  What I want
 to be
   able to do is keep a copy of my email in an org-mode file.
 
  Taking a step back, is there a reason that you want to keep a copy of
  the email contents in the org file, as opposed to including a link to
  the email message?
 
  I would ask the same question.  Specially when Org supports so many URI
  schemes for emails: gnus, mhe, rmail, notmuch, vm, vm-imap, wl.  Even
  simple file links to maildirs would work too.  If you like the Gmail web
  interface, linking to that is also possible!

 or, to turn it around completely, what about defining an org backend
 for gnus, i.e. nnorg, which stores emails using org format, modelled
 along the nnmbox backend [[info:(gnus) Unix Mail Box]]?  You could then
 use the GCC gnus header.

 only partly in jest... ;-)

 --
 : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.50.1, Org release_8.1.1-7-gaecdf5





Re: [O] Yet another question about email and org-mode

2013-10-03 Thread Eric S Fraga
Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes:

 On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:24:18AM -0700, Josiah Schwab wrote:
 Hi Alan,
 

  I am happy to use native emacs mail, for sending email.  What I want to be
  able to do is keep a copy of my email in an org-mode file.
 
 Taking a step back, is there a reason that you want to keep a copy of
 the email contents in the org file, as opposed to including a link to
 the email message?

 I would ask the same question.  Specially when Org supports so many URI
 schemes for emails: gnus, mhe, rmail, notmuch, vm, vm-imap, wl.  Even
 simple file links to maildirs would work too.  If you like the Gmail web
 interface, linking to that is also possible!

or, to turn it around completely, what about defining an org backend
for gnus, i.e. nnorg, which stores emails using org format, modelled
along the nnmbox backend [[info:(gnus) Unix Mail Box]]?  You could then
use the GCC gnus header.

only partly in jest... ;-)

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.50.1, Org release_8.1.1-7-gaecdf5




[O] Yet another question about email and org-mode

2013-10-02 Thread Alan E. Davis
I am happy to use native emacs mail, for sending email.  What I want to be
able to do is keep a copy of my email in an org-mode file.  This file could
be in datebook format, or just a  list, especially if I can tag each email
using org-mode tags.

The solutions I have seen for using org-mode for email seem convoluted,
complicated. I don't need any complicated html mail, just to start up a
mail buffer from org-mode---say, from a todo item, write the email, and
automatically leave a copy of the email behind when I am done.  Perhaps a
capture method would be useful, referring to bbdb for a lookup, although
that's another layer of complexity.

The beauty of org-mode is simplicity: simple text files.

Am I missing something?

Alan


Re: [O] Yet another question about email and org-mode

2013-10-02 Thread Josiah Schwab
Hi Alan,

 I am happy to use native emacs mail, for sending email.  What I want to be
 able to do is keep a copy of my email in an org-mode file.

Taking a step back, is there a reason that you want to keep a copy of
the email contents in the org file, as opposed to including a link to
the email message?

Best,
Josiah



Re: [O] Yet another question about email and org-mode

2013-10-02 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:24:18AM -0700, Josiah Schwab wrote:
 Hi Alan,
 
  I am happy to use native emacs mail, for sending email.  What I want to be
  able to do is keep a copy of my email in an org-mode file.
 
 Taking a step back, is there a reason that you want to keep a copy of
 the email contents in the org file, as opposed to including a link to
 the email message?

I would ask the same question.  Specially when Org supports so many URI
schemes for emails: gnus, mhe, rmail, notmuch, vm, vm-imap, wl.  Even
simple file links to maildirs would work too.  If you like the Gmail web
interface, linking to that is also possible!

-- 
Suvayu

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