Hi Peter Thanks for testing hidestarsfile. I just published fileconversion version 0.2 (generalized name and functionality) with a speed-up  and many other improvements. So please check out again: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#fileconversion [...] Even better would be if the stars showed up as # so they'd be readable with Markdown. Nice idea and implemented with the new generalisation of my-org-fileconversion-* that is now extensible. Take care that you don't end up hooking a complete file format conversion to and from a format by calling pandoc and Org export or similar. ;-) It turns out the spinning pinwheel was due to an incompatibility between the new version of org-mode and a function I'm running called hidestarsfile, which made my .org files nice and readable in other text editors. Hidestarsfile worked fine with my old org-mode, but for some reason with the new version it causes endless pinwheeling. I removed that function from my .emacs file and now everything is running smoothly. I could not reproduce this with Aquamacs 2.1 and org-version 7.8.03 (release_7.8.03-258-g263cb.dirty). What is the backtrace when you set debug-on-quit to t and stop the pinwheel with C-g C-g? Michael  hidestarsfile now uses less CPU time than the rest of Org mode for all of some typical Org files that I profiled during find-file.
Hi all For the case that anyone should be interested in this, still only a monolog: On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 19:57, Michael Brand michael.ch.br...@gmail.com wrote: Now I see that for testing how a hidestarsfile looks like in a file viewer or simple editor, preferred over switching the major mode is: Just stay in Org mode and with org-hide-leading-stars still enabled from before, temporarily change only the look: #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp (visible-mode 1) (my-disable-font-lock-except-org-hide) #+END_SRC I have not yet much of an idea how to do this: Disable font lock for all faces except the face org-hide. What possibilities are there? After an adventurous, instructive and funny proof of concept to backup, overwrite with the face default and restore again one of the Org faces (extensible to all) with the help of copy-face, symbol-name and intern I decided to study font-lock and now am starting to use this simple possibility to disable all faces except org-hide: #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp (defun my-org-lookout-face-defaults () Reset font lock of faces back to `org-set-font-lock-defaults'. Derived from `font-lock-add-keywords'. (interactive) (if (eq major-mode 'org-mode) (progn (setq font-lock-keywords (font-lock-compile-keywords org-font-lock-keywords)) (font-lock-fontify-buffer)) (message ERR: not in Org mode) (ding))) (defun my-org-lookout-face-hide () Leave `org-hide' for leading stars and disable all other faces. Derived from `font-lock-add-keywords' and `org-set-font-lock-defaults'. Does not adapt font-lock-defaults and sets font-lock-keywords directly (interactive) (if (eq major-mode 'org-mode) (progn (setq font-lock-keywords (font-lock-compile-keywords '((^\\(\\**\\)\\(\\* \\)\\(.*\\) (1 (if org-hide-leading-stars 'org-hide 'org-default)) (font-lock-fontify-buffer)) (message ERR: not in Org mode) (ding))) #+END_SRC Michael
Hi all On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 17:43, Michael Brand michael.ch.br...@gmail.com wrote: I am still uncertain about if this could be made Org-mode-specific to cover more use cases: When switching between Org mode and another major mode like Fundamental mode [...] Now I see that for testing how a hidestarsfile looks like in a file viewer or simple editor, preferred over switching the major mode is: Just stay in Org mode and with org-hide-leading-stars still enabled from before, temporarily change only the look: #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp (visible-mode 1) (my-disable-font-lock-except-org-hide) #+END_SRC I have not yet much of an idea how to do this: Disable font lock for all faces except the face org-hide. What possibilities are there? Michael
Hi all Using hooks for file find and for file save I implemented hidestarsfile: On the fly and inspired by hidestars (a cleaner outline view: http://orgmode.org/manual/Clean-view.html ) - remove the leading stars from all headings when writing a buffer to the file - reinsert the leading stars when reading a file into the buffer Following is an example of the _file content_ first with leading stars as usual and below without leading stars through #+STARTUP: odd hidestars hidestarsfile: #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE #+STARTUP: odd hidestars [...] * TODO section *** subsection * subsubsec - bla bla * section - bla bla *** subsection #+END_EXAMPLE #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE #+STARTUP: odd hidestars hidestarsfile [...] * TODO section * subsection * subsubsec - bla bla * section - bla bla * subsection #+END_EXAMPLE The latter is convenient for better human readability when an Org file, additionally to Emacs, is read with a file viewer or, for smaller edits, with an editor not capable of the Org file format. To change the format for the current file simply add or remove the keyword hidestarsfile in the STARTUP line. hidestarsfile is just a hack and can not become part of the Org core: - An Org file with hidestarsfile can not contain list items with a star as bullet due to the syntax conflict at read time. - An Org file with hidestarsfile can almost not be edited with an Org mode without added functionality of hidestarsfile as long as the file is not converted back. I am still uncertain about if this could be made Org-mode-specific to cover more use cases: When switching between Org mode and another major mode like Fundamental mode it would remove and reinsert the leading stars in the buffer itself, not only in the file. The current state is that it only reinserts the leading stars in the buffer and only removes them in the file. It does this regardless of the major mode, assuming that not-Org-files don't contain the ^#\+STARTUP: hidestarsfile keywords. This is a simplification but I think it also helps to ensure better that it is less prone to the error of loosing track if it should now remove or reinsert and whether to mark not-modified. The org-mode-hook is called also when following a link and sometimes (source blocks?) more than once when just opening a file. I guess that this tracking could be even harder for leaving Org mode. The text until here and the 40 lines of Emacs Lisp are on Worg: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#hidestarsfile Are there opinions about making hidestarsfile Org-mode-specific as mentioned above? Is there a hook for the event of leaving Org mode or could one be added for this purpose? Michael