Re: [O] newbie which LaTeX for PDF publish
I found this link below, which suggests using the TeX Live Installer https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/1092/how-to-install-vanilla-texlive-on-debian-or-u buntu?noredirect=1=1 This is my preferred method. You can choose a completely custom install or use the pre-defined packages of varying sizes (small, medium, full etc.). I usually use the medium or full, but any package is just a 'tlmgr install' away (incl. pdftex). Cheers, -- Adrian Bradd
Re: [O] newbie which LaTeX for PDF publish
Hello Adam, As Ubuntu and Debian user, I agree with Robert: the install of texlive via texlive-full is the best solution. Other packages can after be installed in ~/texmf/tex/latex/local/ (idem for ~/texmf/bibtex/ ) and everything should run smoothly. Best wishes, Jo. Le lun. 3 sept. 2018 à 07:49, Robert Klein a écrit : > Hi Adam, > > On Mon, 03 Sep 2018 09:32:14 +1200 > adam wrote: > > > On Sun, 2018-09-02 at 11:04 +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: > > > On Saturday, 1 Sep 2018 at 22:12, adam wrote: > > > > > > > > Am on Ubuntu 16.04, org-version is 8.2.10 > > > > > > > > Export to PDF C-c C-e l o is working. > > > > However I wish finer grain LaTeX control. > > > > > > > > > > > > For Export to PDF to work, I needed pdftex > > > But org exports to LaTeX, not TeX. I.e. it exports to TeX with the > > > assumption that the LaTeX macros are all available. > > > > > > Am I missing something? > > > > > > What finer grain control would you like that you cannot achieve > > > using org directions such as #+latex: and #+begin_export latex? > > > > > > > I require management of TeX (TeX Live) for export to PDF (LaTeX). > > > > The Tex Live manager (tlmgr) displays available fonts, loads and > > removes fonts and other packages. > > https://www.tug.org/texlive/doc/tlmgr.html > > > > > > Sure, pdftex (from texlive-latex-extra) enables org-mode export to > > PDF, however the fonts available are opaque within the TexLive > > environment without tlmgr. Navigation of TexLive customizations, set > > with install-tl are opaque without tlmgr. > > > > > > packages for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS can be seen here, > > https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=texlive > > > > using the TexLive installer install-tl can be seen here, > > > https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/1092/how-to-install-vanilla-texlive-on-debian-or-u > > buntu > > > > > > In other words, org-mode export to PDF assumes a pdftex, and the > > tex/texlive/LaTex environment is up to the user to simply provide a > > pdftex. > > > > I don't get the “require management” part of this. Ubuntu has about > 100 texlive packages, the texlive distribution offers about 47. The > SUSE guys went overboard and had (still have?) about 3500 packages --- > a former 2-hour installation with about 3-5 “texlive” packages (fully > automated) took 4.5 plus then... > > Why don't you just install Ubuntu's texlive-full and be done with it? > > Best regards > Robert > > > >
Re: [O] newbie which LaTeX for PDF publish
Hi Adam, On Mon, 03 Sep 2018 09:32:14 +1200 adam wrote: > On Sun, 2018-09-02 at 11:04 +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: > > On Saturday, 1 Sep 2018 at 22:12, adam wrote: > > > > > > Am on Ubuntu 16.04, org-version is 8.2.10 > > > > > > Export to PDF C-c C-e l o is working. > > > However I wish finer grain LaTeX control. > > > > > > > > > For Export to PDF to work, I needed pdftex > > But org exports to LaTeX, not TeX. I.e. it exports to TeX with the > > assumption that the LaTeX macros are all available. > > > > Am I missing something? > > > > What finer grain control would you like that you cannot achieve > > using org directions such as #+latex: and #+begin_export latex? > > > > I require management of TeX (TeX Live) for export to PDF (LaTeX). > > The Tex Live manager (tlmgr) displays available fonts, loads and > removes fonts and other packages. > https://www.tug.org/texlive/doc/tlmgr.html > > > Sure, pdftex (from texlive-latex-extra) enables org-mode export to > PDF, however the fonts available are opaque within the TexLive > environment without tlmgr. Navigation of TexLive customizations, set > with install-tl are opaque without tlmgr. > > > packages for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS can be seen here, > https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=texlive > > using the TexLive installer install-tl can be seen here, > https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/1092/how-to-install-vanilla-texlive-on-debian-or-u > buntu > > > In other words, org-mode export to PDF assumes a pdftex, and the > tex/texlive/LaTex environment is up to the user to simply provide a > pdftex. > I don't get the “require management” part of this. Ubuntu has about 100 texlive packages, the texlive distribution offers about 47. The SUSE guys went overboard and had (still have?) about 3500 packages --- a former 2-hour installation with about 3-5 “texlive” packages (fully automated) took 4.5 plus then... Why don't you just install Ubuntu's texlive-full and be done with it? Best regards Robert
Re: [O] newbie which LaTeX for PDF publish
On Monday, 3 Sep 2018 at 09:32, adam wrote: > On Sun, 2018-09-02 at 11:04 +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: >> On Saturday, 1 Sep 2018 at 22:12, adam wrote: >> > > >> > Am on Ubuntu 16.04, org-version is 8.2.10 >> > >> > Export to PDF C-c C-e l o is working. >> > However I wish finer grain LaTeX control. >> > >> > >> > For Export to PDF to work, I needed pdftex >> But org exports to LaTeX, not TeX. I.e. it exports to TeX with the >> assumption that the LaTeX macros are all available. >> >> Am I missing something? >> >> What finer grain control would you like that you cannot achieve using >> org directions such as #+latex: and #+begin_export latex? >> > > I require management of TeX (TeX Live) for export to PDF (LaTeX). > > The Tex Live manager (tlmgr) displays available fonts, loads and > removes fonts and other packages. So this has nothing to do with org then? I've never used tlmgr so cannot help. Sorry. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, Org release_9.1.13-783-g97fac4
Re: [O] newbie which LaTeX for PDF publish
On Sun, 2018-09-02 at 11:04 +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Saturday, 1 Sep 2018 at 22:12, adam wrote: > > > > Am on Ubuntu 16.04, org-version is 8.2.10 > > > > Export to PDF C-c C-e l o is working. > > However I wish finer grain LaTeX control. > > > > > > For Export to PDF to work, I needed pdftex > But org exports to LaTeX, not TeX. I.e. it exports to TeX with the > assumption that the LaTeX macros are all available. > > Am I missing something? > > What finer grain control would you like that you cannot achieve using > org directions such as #+latex: and #+begin_export latex? > I require management of TeX (TeX Live) for export to PDF (LaTeX). The Tex Live manager (tlmgr) displays available fonts, loads and removes fonts and other packages. https://www.tug.org/texlive/doc/tlmgr.html Sure, pdftex (from texlive-latex-extra) enables org-mode export to PDF, however the fonts available are opaque within the TexLive environment without tlmgr. Navigation of TexLive customizations, set with install-tl are opaque without tlmgr. packages for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS can be seen here, https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=texlive using the TexLive installer install-tl can be seen here, https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/1092/how-to-install-vanilla-texlive-on-debian-or-u buntu In other words, org-mode export to PDF assumes a pdftex, and the tex/texlive/LaTex environment is up to the user to simply provide a pdftex.
Re: [O] newbie which LaTeX for PDF publish
On Saturday, 1 Sep 2018 at 22:12, adam wrote: > Am on Ubuntu 16.04, org-version is 8.2.10 > > Export to PDF C-c C-e l o is working. > However I wish finer grain LaTeX control. > > > For Export to PDF to work, I needed pdftex But org exports to LaTeX, not TeX. I.e. it exports to TeX with the assumption that the LaTeX macros are all available. Am I missing something? What finer grain control would you like that you cannot achieve using org directions such as #+latex: and #+begin_export latex? -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, Org release_9.1.13-783-g97fac4
Re: [O] newbie which LaTeX for PDF publish
On Sat, 2018-09-01 at 14:34 +0200, Robert Klein wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 01 Sep 2018 22:12:39 +1200 > adam wrote: > > > > > Am on Ubuntu 16.04, org-version is 8.2.10 > > > > Export to PDF C-c C-e l o is working. > > However I wish finer grain LaTeX control. > > > > > > For Export to PDF to work, I needed pdftex > > > > So I followed one suggestion and installed > > sudo apt-get install texlive-latex-extra > > > > However Tex's tlmgr reports errors and doesn't work. Tex users > > suggest a version incompatibility between that tlmgr and this Tex > > package. > > > > Any suggestions are welcome. > > > > Perhaps I should un-install texlive-latex-extra and install a more > > fully blown LaTex package. In which case, which one? > I typically install texlive-full (Debian 9), but don't use tlmgr on it. > > If you want newer packages best download and install it from > texlive.net to a separate location (e.g. /opt/texlive/$YEAR). > > Are you sure you don't have pdftex installed already? > > Is your Ubuntu an “update” installation that may have gone wrong? Or > does Ubuntu offer several tex/latex distributions? I think most people > nowadays use the texlive distribution. > > Best regards > Robert Thanks Robert. No, I didn't have a pdftex beforehand, so I needed that from any Tex/LaTeX/TexLive system. It was perhaps my mistake to install texlive-extra because tlmgr doesn't work properly, tlmgrgui seems unavailable, thus I can't list my currently available fonts or load new packages. With some hesitation or regret, I feel must install a full-blown TeX Live system, simply for some help or control with the Tex of the org-mode LaTeX PDF export. I found this link below, which suggests using the TeX Live Installer https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/1092/how-to-install-vanilla-texlive-on-debian-or-u buntu?noredirect=1=1 Thank you.
Re: [O] newbie which LaTeX for PDF publish
Hi, On Sat, 01 Sep 2018 22:12:39 +1200 adam wrote: > Am on Ubuntu 16.04, org-version is 8.2.10 > > Export to PDF C-c C-e l o is working. > However I wish finer grain LaTeX control. > > > For Export to PDF to work, I needed pdftex > > So I followed one suggestion and installed > sudo apt-get install texlive-latex-extra > > However Tex's tlmgr reports errors and doesn't work. Tex users > suggest a version incompatibility between that tlmgr and this Tex > package. > > Any suggestions are welcome. > > Perhaps I should un-install texlive-latex-extra and install a more > fully blown LaTex package. In which case, which one? I typically install texlive-full (Debian 9), but don't use tlmgr on it. If you want newer packages best download and install it from texlive.net to a separate location (e.g. /opt/texlive/$YEAR). Are you sure you don't have pdftex installed already? Is your Ubuntu an “update” installation that may have gone wrong? Or does Ubuntu offer several tex/latex distributions? I think most people nowadays use the texlive distribution. Best regards Robert
[O] newbie which LaTeX for PDF publish
Am on Ubuntu 16.04, org-version is 8.2.10 Export to PDF C-c C-e l o is working. However I wish finer grain LaTeX control. For Export to PDF to work, I needed pdftex So I followed one suggestion and installed sudo apt-get install texlive-latex-extra However Tex's tlmgr reports errors and doesn't work. Tex users suggest a version incompatibility between that tlmgr and this Tex package. Any suggestions are welcome. Perhaps I should un-install texlive-latex-extra and install a more fully blown LaTex package. In which case, which one?
