Re: [O] org-table: missing vertical boundary when exported

2014-08-14 Thread Rick Frankel

On 2014-08-13 00:46, Shiyuan wrote:

Rick, 
   Do you mean that  table border=2 and table style=border:2px
don't mean the same thing? Their names suggest they do the same
things. That's a terrible naming. Changing the former to the latter
does fix the problem though. Why is that? 


Please read the HTML specifications for an explaination. By my reading
border=2 is in fact invalid in html5:

The border attribute may be specified on a table element to
explicitly indicate that the table element is not being used for
layout purposes. If specified, the attribute's value must either
be the empty string or the value 1. The attribute is used by
certain user agents as an indication that borders should be drawn
around cells of the table.

In html4 it does seem to do the same thing:

border = pixels [CN]
This attributes specifies the width (in pixels only) of the frame
around a table (see the Note below for more information about this
attribute).

     
Using the #+HTML_HEAD_EXTRA options as you suggest can also fix the
problem. But could you explain why using the HTML_HEAD_EXTRA is more
advisable than setting the table style=border:2px directly as
table attributes? What would you suggest if we want some tables have
orders and others don't have borders in the same html webpage? 


Use css selectors. If you want to set the style attribute directly on
the table element in a post-processor you may, but is is not
considered best practice.



Re: [O] org-table: missing vertical boundary when exported

2014-08-12 Thread Shiyuan
Rick,
   Do you mean that  table border=2 and table style=border:2px
don't mean the same thing? Their names suggest they do the same things.
That's a terrible naming. Changing the former to the latter does fix the
problem though. Why is that?

Using the #+HTML_HEAD_EXTRA options as you suggest can also fix the
problem. But could you explain why using the HTML_HEAD_EXTRA is more
advisable than setting the table style=border:2px directly as table
attributes? What would you suggest if we want some tables have orders and
others don't have borders in the same html webpage?

Thank you.

Shiyuan


Org mode generated this line in the html for table but the border is
 not
 displayed,Â
 table border=2 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 rules=groups
 frame=hsides

 The border attribute has nothing to do with it. It's the frame
 attribute
 which sets the default top and bottom borders.



 If we use css style to specify the border, Â the table border would
 show
 up:Â
 table style=border:2px cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6
 rules=groups
 frame=hsides

 No. The CSS should be in the header, not an attribute of the tag. Have you
 tried setting the 'HTML_HEAD_EXTRA' option?  somehting like:
 #+HTML_HEAD_EXTRA: style type=text/css
 #+HTML_HEAD_EXTRA: table {border-left: 1px solid black; border-right: 1px
 solid black;}
 #+HTML_HEAD_EXTRA: /style


 rick



Re: [O] org-table: missing vertical boundary when exported

2014-08-11 Thread Rick Frankel
On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 05:49:27PM -0700, Shiyuan wrote:
Hi,�
� � I learned a bit a about html/css and took another look the issue. It
turns out that org-mode uses the border attribute which is not respected
by my browser(Google Chrome version 36.0.1985.125 on Mac 10.9.4) .�
Org mode generated this line in the html for table but the border is not
displayed,�
table border=2 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 rules=groups
frame=hsides

The border attribute has nothing to do with it. It's the frame attribute
which sets the default top and bottom borders.

If we use css style to specify the border, � the table border would show
up:�
table style=border:2px cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 rules=groups
frame=hsides

No. The CSS should be in the header, not an attribute of the tag. Have you
tried setting the 'HTML_HEAD_EXTRA' option?  somehting like:

#+HTML_HEAD_EXTRA: style type=text/css
#+HTML_HEAD_EXTRA: table {border-left: 1px solid black; border-right: 1px solid 
black;}
#+HTML_HEAD_EXTRA: /style


rick



Re: [O] org-table: missing vertical boundary when exported

2014-08-09 Thread Shiyuan
Hi,
I learned a bit a about html/css and took another look the issue. It
turns out that org-mode uses the border attribute which is not respected by
my browser(Google Chrome version 36.0.1985.125 on Mac 10.9.4) .

Org mode generated this line in the html for table but the border is not
displayed,
table border=2 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 rules=groups
frame=hsides

If we use css style to specify the border,  the table border would show up:
table style=border:2px cellspacing=0 cellpadding=6 rules=groups
frame=hsides

Don't know why it is that. But is there any org keywords/properties I can
specify so that  Org would not use the border  attribute but use the style
attribute instead when exporting to html? Thanks.

Shiyuan



On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Shiyuan gshy2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, it seems to be related to the browser or css style stuff.  In fact,
 for the attached html in  Thorsten's previous email, the two boundaries
 vertical lines are also missing in my Google Chrome or Firefox.  Thanks.

 This is the example directed from copy-paste.

 |   |  N | N^2 | N^3 | N^4 | sqrt(n) | sqrt[4](N) |
 |---++-+-+-+-+|
 | / |  || |||   |
 | # |  1 |   1 |   1 |   1 |   1 |  1 |
 | # |  2 |   4 |   8 |  16 |  1.4142 | 1.1892 |
 | # |  3 |   9 |  27 |  81 |  1.7321 | 1.3161 |
 |---++-+-+-+-+|
 This is my minimal config, Emacs start with '-Q  -l ~/myorg.el which is

 (package-initialize)
 (org-babel-do-load-languages
  'org-babel-load-languages
  '((python . t)
(emacs-lisp . t)
(latex . t)))



 On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Rick Frankel r...@rickster.com wrote:

 On 2014-06-07 17:15, Shiyuan wrote:

 I am following the manual
 example http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/tables.html [1]. But the

 two vertical boundary line on the very left and right
 is not showing up when exported to html.  Anything I am missing? Thanks.


 My guess is that it is related to the css being used to style the table
 in your setup.

 Could you post a minimal example with the html output?

 rick





Re: [O] org-table: missing vertical boundary when exported

2014-06-10 Thread Rick Frankel

On 2014-06-07 17:15, Shiyuan wrote:

    I am following the manual
example http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/tables.html [1]. But the
two vertical boundary line on the very left and right 
is not showing up when exported to html.  Anything I am missing? 
Thanks. 


My guess is that it is related to the css being used to style the table
in your setup.

Could you post a minimal example with the html output?

rick



Re: [O] org-table: missing vertical boundary when exported

2014-06-10 Thread John Hendy
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Rick Frankel r...@rickster.com wrote:
 On 2014-06-07 17:15, Shiyuan wrote:

 I am following the manual
 example http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/tables.html [1]. But the
 two vertical boundary line on the very left and right
 is not showing up when exported to html.  Anything I am missing? Thanks.


 My guess is that it is related to the css being used to style the table
 in your setup.

Agreed. I just used `emacs -Q` with this minimal config:

(add-to-list 'load-path ~/.elisp/org.git/contrib/lisp/)
(add-to-list 'load-path ~/.elisp/org.git/lisp/)

Exporting the following simple table yields no vertical lines at all,
just two horizontal lines at the top and bottom of the table:

* test

|   |   |   |
| A | B | C |
| 1 | 2 | 3 |
| a | b | c |


If I use something like the old Worg css sheet, however, I get a box
around the table:

#+html_head: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=http://tinyurl.com/77t76qa; /

So, I believe it's related to the css. There's an entry in the Worg css like so:

  table {
border: none;
  }

So I'm guessing that can be changed (there's entries for td and th as
well, which seem relevant). Now that I actually look at it, I don't
know why the table has a box around it since all the borders say
none... but I'm not a css guy :)


John


 Could you post a minimal example with the html output?

 rick




Re: [O] org-table: missing vertical boundary when exported

2014-06-10 Thread Shiyuan
Yes, it seems to be related to the browser or css style stuff.  In fact,
for the attached html in  Thorsten's previous email, the two boundaries
vertical lines are also missing in my Google Chrome or Firefox.  Thanks.

This is the example directed from copy-paste.

|   |  N | N^2 | N^3 | N^4 | sqrt(n) | sqrt[4](N) |
|---++-+-+-+-+|
| / |  || |||   |
| # |  1 |   1 |   1 |   1 |   1 |  1 |
| # |  2 |   4 |   8 |  16 |  1.4142 | 1.1892 |
| # |  3 |   9 |  27 |  81 |  1.7321 | 1.3161 |
|---++-+-+-+-+|
This is my minimal config, Emacs start with '-Q  -l ~/myorg.el which is

(package-initialize)
(org-babel-do-load-languages
 'org-babel-load-languages
 '((python . t)
   (emacs-lisp . t)
   (latex . t)))



On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Rick Frankel r...@rickster.com wrote:

 On 2014-06-07 17:15, Shiyuan wrote:

 I am following the manual
 example http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/tables.html [1]. But the

 two vertical boundary line on the very left and right
 is not showing up when exported to html.  Anything I am missing? Thanks.


 My guess is that it is related to the css being used to style the table
 in your setup.

 Could you post a minimal example with the html output?

 rick



[O] org-table: missing vertical boundary when exported

2014-06-07 Thread Shiyuan
Hi,
I am following the manual example
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/tables.html. But the two vertical
boundary line on the very left and right
is not showing up when exported to html.  Anything I am missing? Thanks.


|   |  N | N^2 | N^3 | N^4 | sqrt(n) | sqrt[4](N) |
|---++-+-+-+-+|
| / |  || |||   |
| # |  1 |   1 |   1 |   1 |   1 |  1 |
| # |  2 |   4 |   8 |  16 |  1.4142 | 1.1892 |
| # |  3 |   9 |  27 |  81 |  1.7321 | 1.3161 |
|---++-+-+-+-+|


Re: [O] org-table: missing vertical boundary when exported

2014-06-07 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Shiyuan gshy2...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi, 
 I am following the manual example
 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/tables.html. But the two
 vertical boundary line on the very left and right 
 is not showing up when exported to html. Anything I am missing?
 Thanks. 

 | | N | N^2 | N^3 | N^4 | sqrt(n) | sqrt[4](N) |
 |---++-+-+-+-+|
 | / |  |  | |  |  |  |
 | # | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
 | # | 2 | 4 | 8 | 16 | 1.4142 | 1.1892 |
 | # | 3 | 9 | 27 | 81 | 1.7321 | 1.3161 |
 |---++-+-+-+-+|


Looks alright for me as html in emacs-w3m:

+---+
|N|N^2|N^3|N^4|sqrt(n)|sqrt^1(N)|
|-+---+---+---+---+-|
|1|1  |1  |1  |1  |1|
|-+---+---+---+---+-|
|2|4  |8  |16 |1.4142 |1.1892   |
|-+---+---+---+---+-|
|3|9  |27 |81 |1.7321 |1.3161   |
+---+

Footnotes:

^1

DEFINITION NOT FOUND.

Author: Thorsten Jolitz

Created: 2014-06-07 Sa 23:38

Emacs 24.3.1 (Org mode 8.2.6)

Validate


-- 
cheers,
Thorsten




Re: [O] org-table: missing vertical boundary when exported

2014-06-07 Thread Shiyuan
I use Emacs 24.3.9, org 8.2.6. I viewed the html on Chrome/Firebox. I don't
use emacs-w3m.  But could it be the problem of browsers? Thanks.


On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shiyuan gshy2...@gmail.com writes:

  Hi,
  I am following the manual example
  http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/tables.html. But the two
  vertical boundary line on the very left and right
  is not showing up when exported to html. Anything I am missing?
  Thanks.
 
  | | N | N^2 | N^3 | N^4 | sqrt(n) | sqrt[4](N) |
  |---++-+-+-+-+|
  | / |  |  | |  |  |  |
  | # | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
  | # | 2 | 4 | 8 | 16 | 1.4142 | 1.1892 |
  | # | 3 | 9 | 27 | 81 | 1.7321 | 1.3161 |
  |---++-+-+-+-+|


 Looks alright for me as html in emacs-w3m:

 +---+
 |N|N^2|N^3|N^4|sqrt(n)|sqrt^1(N)|
 |-+---+---+---+---+-|
 |1|1  |1  |1  |1  |1|
 |-+---+---+---+---+-|
 |2|4  |8  |16 |1.4142 |1.1892   |
 |-+---+---+---+---+-|
 |3|9  |27 |81 |1.7321 |1.3161   |
 +---+

 Footnotes:

 ^1

 DEFINITION NOT FOUND.

 Author: Thorsten Jolitz

 Created: 2014-06-07 Sa 23:38

 Emacs 24.3.1 (Org mode 8.2.6)

 Validate


 --
 cheers,
 Thorsten





Re: [O] org-table: missing vertical boundary when exported

2014-06-07 Thread Thorsten Jolitz
Shiyuan gshy2...@gmail.com writes:

 I use Emacs 24.3.9, org 8.2.6. I viewed the html on Chrome/Firebox. I
 don't use emacs-w3m. But could it be the problem of browsers? Thanks. 

hmm ... no idea, but I attach the html, so you can compare that. 

Title: tmp






tmp






















N
N2
N3
N4
sqrt(n)
sqrt1(N)




1
1
1
1
1
1



2
4
8
16
1.4142
1.1892



3
9
27
81
1.7321
1.3161




Footnotes: 


1 DEFINITION NOT FOUND.





Author: Thorsten Jolitz
Created: 2014-06-07 Sa 23:38
Emacs 24.3.1 (Org mode 8.2.6)
Validate




-- 
cheers,
Thorsten