Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-27 Thread Xebar Saram
Hi again all

so i tried playing around with the latex options, read the Latex org manual
part but still confused and i still get the lines cut.

the one thing that did work was using this:

begin{itemize}

\item testing1 the long lines testing2 the long lines testing3 the long
lines testing4 the long lines testing5 the long lines testing6 the long
lines
\item
\item
\item
\item
\end{itemize}

but that seems very cumbersome, inserting it every time, writing the lines
after the \items etc..

I am really content with using the org example method. is there no way to
make the exporter to pdf (latex i guess) auto wrap lines?

thx alot

Z



On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you all

 ill try the Latex list suggestion over the weekend as i have Zero Latex
 knowledge so ill try to dig into it a bit

 Best

 z.


 On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Suvayu Ali 
 fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello Xebar,

 On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 01:37:31PM +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
  Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:
 
   Thanks again guys
  
   Rick: But a better approach would be to define your own latex list
   environment for
   program steps and use lists:
  
   ive never used latex, do you mind expanding on that a bit?
  
   Eric: I don't think it's cut, is it? I just tried with your example
   and long
   lines are preserved as-is (ie, quite long)
   this is how it looks in my pdf export:
  
   https://paste.xinu.at/sYsMVz/
 
  Oh I see -- it's latex that cuts those lines off, not the org exporter.
  You'll probably want to go the list route then. See this link for how to
  create a custom list environment:
 
  http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/ownlists.htm
 
  Then do this in org, replacing bogus with the name of your new
 environment:
 
  #+ATTR_LATEX: :environment bogus
  - this is a
  - list with some
  - items in it

 I guess you missed my response.  I suggested this a couple of days back.
 Sadly I was in a hurry and could not provide precise instructions.  You
 can achieve this using the enumitem package with the noitemsep option[1].

 So inside Org all you need to do is add the following to the file header:

 #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{enumitem}

 If you want this behaviour for all lists add the following:

 #+LATEX_HEADER: \setlist{nolistsep}

 If you only want to do this for a particular kind of list (say,
 enumerate) add the following line instead:

 \setenumerate{noitemsep}

 To control this per-list you can do:

 #+attr_latex: :options noitemsep
 - Step 1
 - Step 2
 - Step 3

 For more info on other options, see the documentation for enumitem
 (`texdoc enumitem' or http://ctan.org/pkg/enumitem).

 Hope this helps,


 Footnotes:

 [1] See this TeX.SX question for more details:
 http://TeX.stackexchange.com/q/10684.

 --
 Suvayu

 Open source is the future. It sets us free.





Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-24 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hello Xebar,

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 01:37:31PM +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
 Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:
 
  Thanks again guys
 
  Rick: But a better approach would be to define your own latex list
  environment for
  program steps and use lists:
 
  ive never used latex, do you mind expanding on that a bit?
 
  Eric: I don't think it's cut, is it? I just tried with your example
  and long
  lines are preserved as-is (ie, quite long)
  this is how it looks in my pdf export:
 
  https://paste.xinu.at/sYsMVz/
 
 Oh I see -- it's latex that cuts those lines off, not the org exporter.
 You'll probably want to go the list route then. See this link for how to
 create a custom list environment:
 
 http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/ownlists.htm
 
 Then do this in org, replacing bogus with the name of your new environment:
 
 #+ATTR_LATEX: :environment bogus
 - this is a
 - list with some
 - items in it

I guess you missed my response.  I suggested this a couple of days back.
Sadly I was in a hurry and could not provide precise instructions.  You
can achieve this using the enumitem package with the noitemsep option[1].

So inside Org all you need to do is add the following to the file header:

#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{enumitem}

If you want this behaviour for all lists add the following:

#+LATEX_HEADER: \setlist{nolistsep}

If you only want to do this for a particular kind of list (say,
enumerate) add the following line instead:

\setenumerate{noitemsep}

To control this per-list you can do:

#+attr_latex: :options noitemsep
- Step 1
- Step 2
- Step 3

For more info on other options, see the documentation for enumitem
(`texdoc enumitem' or http://ctan.org/pkg/enumitem).

Hope this helps,


Footnotes:

[1] See this TeX.SX question for more details:
http://TeX.stackexchange.com/q/10684.

-- 
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.



Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-24 Thread Xebar Saram
Thank you all

ill try the Latex list suggestion over the weekend as i have Zero Latex
knowledge so ill try to dig into it a bit

Best

z.


On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello Xebar,

 On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 01:37:31PM +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
  Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:
 
   Thanks again guys
  
   Rick: But a better approach would be to define your own latex list
   environment for
   program steps and use lists:
  
   ive never used latex, do you mind expanding on that a bit?
  
   Eric: I don't think it's cut, is it? I just tried with your example
   and long
   lines are preserved as-is (ie, quite long)
   this is how it looks in my pdf export:
  
   https://paste.xinu.at/sYsMVz/
 
  Oh I see -- it's latex that cuts those lines off, not the org exporter.
  You'll probably want to go the list route then. See this link for how to
  create a custom list environment:
 
  http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/ownlists.htm
 
  Then do this in org, replacing bogus with the name of your new
 environment:
 
  #+ATTR_LATEX: :environment bogus
  - this is a
  - list with some
  - items in it

 I guess you missed my response.  I suggested this a couple of days back.
 Sadly I was in a hurry and could not provide precise instructions.  You
 can achieve this using the enumitem package with the noitemsep option[1].

 So inside Org all you need to do is add the following to the file header:

 #+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{enumitem}

 If you want this behaviour for all lists add the following:

 #+LATEX_HEADER: \setlist{nolistsep}

 If you only want to do this for a particular kind of list (say,
 enumerate) add the following line instead:

 \setenumerate{noitemsep}

 To control this per-list you can do:

 #+attr_latex: :options noitemsep
 - Step 1
 - Step 2
 - Step 3

 For more info on other options, see the documentation for enumitem
 (`texdoc enumitem' or http://ctan.org/pkg/enumitem).

 Hope this helps,


 Footnotes:

 [1] See this TeX.SX question for more details:
 http://TeX.stackexchange.com/q/10684.

 --
 Suvayu

 Open source is the future. It sets us free.




Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-23 Thread Xebar Saram
Thank you Eric and Rick!

Eric:
The #+OPTIONS: \n:nil didn't do much here even using the default templates
for export as suggested

Rick:
i think i can live with the  #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE blocks , is there a way to
define wrapping text in the block? as you said using the block currently
cuts off text towards the lines end

Appreciate all the help from everyone. thanks alot!

z.


On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net
wrote:

 Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:

  Thank you all
 
  I think `org-export-preserve-breaks' is the option you want. Try
  setting it in a single buffer with #+OPTIONS:\n:nil and see what
  happens...
 
  that sounds interesting, but i couldn't understand how to use it
  (again im still an org novice:) )
  do i stick this line at the start:
  #+OPTIONS:\n:nil
 
  is that ^^ syntax correct?

 Nearly correct -- we're the victim of unfortunate line wrapping. It
 should look like:

 #+OPTIONS: \n:nil

 Ie, with an extra space. If you're a novice, as you say, you might like
 to see the default options template for exporting. In your org buffer,
 hit C-c C-e to get to the export dispatcher, then hit # for template
 insertion, then pick default. It will be a lot easier to see and edit
 existing options than type them all in by hand.

 Yours,
 Eric


  On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Suvayu Ali 
  fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 09:55:12AM +0200, Xebar Saram wrote:
  
   I'm trying to write a simple guidebook for my students in a GIS
  course.
   Everything works great apart for the life of me i cant get the
  hang of
   formatting and specifically how to insert (automatically?) line
  breaks so
   that its discrete lines and not a paragraph. i think one can
  use '\\' to
   indicate a line break but since its a guidebook form there
  are almost no
   paragraphs and most line are 1 liners, so it seems to me crazy
  to go over
   hundred lines of text and attach a \\ at the end. What am i
  missing here?
  
   i hope i made sense :) any help or documentation links would be
  really
   appreciated!
  
   I'm attaching a short example of my org file, note that where i
  want single
   lines i add a empty space between lines but still in the
  exporter it
   creates a paragraph out of these lines
  
 
  I think you are better off trying to do this with a specialised
  LaTeX
  class.  A quick search led me to this TeX.SX question:
  http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/3852.  You could also try using
  lists,
  just disable the bullets with an option in an #+attr_latex line.
 
 
  GL,
 
  --
  Suvayu
 
  Open source is the future. It sets us free.
 




Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-23 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:

 Thank you Eric and Rick!

 Eric:
 The #+OPTIONS: \n:nil didn't do much here even using the default
 templates for export as suggested

Sorry! Got it backwards -- it's meant to be \n:t

But still, other responders are probably right that what you want is
actually a different kind of text type: a list or an example block.

E

 Rick:
 i think i can live with the  #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE blocks , is there a way
 to define wrapping text in the block? as you said using the block
 currently cuts off text towards the lines end

 Appreciate all the help from everyone. thanks alot!

 z.


 On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Eric Abrahamsen 
 e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote:

 Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:

  Thank you all
 
  I think `org-export-preserve-breaks' is the option you want. Try
  setting it in a single buffer with #+OPTIONS:\n:nil and see what
  happens...
 
  that sounds interesting, but i couldn't understand how to use it
  (again im still an org novice:) )
  do i stick this line at the start:
  #+OPTIONS:\n:nil
 
  is that ^^ syntax correct?

 Nearly correct -- we're the victim of unfortunate line wrapping. It
 should look like:

 #+OPTIONS: \n:nil

 Ie, with an extra space. If you're a novice, as you say, you might
 like
 to see the default options template for exporting. In your org
 buffer,
 hit C-c C-e to get to the export dispatcher, then hit # for
 template
 insertion, then pick default. It will be a lot easier to see and
 edit
 existing options than type them all in by hand.

 Yours,
 Eric


  On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Suvayu Ali 
  fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
 
      On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 09:55:12AM +0200, Xebar Saram wrote:
      
       I'm trying to write a simple guidebook for my students in a
 GIS
      course.
       Everything works great apart for the life of me i cant get
 the
      hang of
       formatting and specifically how to insert (automatically?)
 line
      breaks so
       that its discrete lines and not a paragraph. i think one
 can
      use '\\' to
       indicate a line break but since its a guidebook form
 there
      are almost no
       paragraphs and most line are 1 liners, so it seems to me
 crazy
      to go over
       hundred lines of text and attach a \\ at the end. What am i
      missing here?
      
       i hope i made sense :) any help or documentation links
 would be
      really
       appreciated!
      
       I'm attaching a short example of my org file, note that
 where i
      want single
       lines i add a empty space between lines but still in the
      exporter it
       creates a paragraph out of these lines
      
 
      I think you are better off trying to do this with a
 specialised
      LaTeX
      class.  A quick search led me to this TeX.SX question:
      http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/3852.  You could also try
 using
      lists,
      just disable the bullets with an option in an #+attr_latex
 line.
 
 
      GL,
 
      --
      Suvayu
 
      Open source is the future. It sets us free.
 






Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-23 Thread Xebar Saram
Thx again Eric

i actually like using the example block but as you mentioned i think the
text is cut at the end when you export it , is there anyway to make the
exporter auto wrap lines inside example blocks?

best

z


On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Eric Abrahamsen
e...@ericabrahamsen.netwrote:

 Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:

  Thank you Eric and Rick!
 
  Eric:
  The #+OPTIONS: \n:nil didn't do much here even using the default
  templates for export as suggested

 Sorry! Got it backwards -- it's meant to be \n:t

 But still, other responders are probably right that what you want is
 actually a different kind of text type: a list or an example block.

 E

  Rick:
  i think i can live with the  #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE blocks , is there a way
  to define wrapping text in the block? as you said using the block
  currently cuts off text towards the lines end
 
  Appreciate all the help from everyone. thanks alot!
 
  z.
 
 
  On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Eric Abrahamsen 
  e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote:
 
  Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:
 
   Thank you all
  
   I think `org-export-preserve-breaks' is the option you want. Try
   setting it in a single buffer with #+OPTIONS:\n:nil and see what
   happens...
  
   that sounds interesting, but i couldn't understand how to use it
   (again im still an org novice:) )
   do i stick this line at the start:
   #+OPTIONS:\n:nil
  
   is that ^^ syntax correct?
 
  Nearly correct -- we're the victim of unfortunate line wrapping. It
  should look like:
 
  #+OPTIONS: \n:nil
 
  Ie, with an extra space. If you're a novice, as you say, you might
  like
  to see the default options template for exporting. In your org
  buffer,
  hit C-c C-e to get to the export dispatcher, then hit # for
  template
  insertion, then pick default. It will be a lot easier to see and
  edit
  existing options than type them all in by hand.
 
  Yours,
  Eric
 
 
   On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Suvayu Ali 
   fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 09:55:12AM +0200, Xebar Saram wrote:
   
I'm trying to write a simple guidebook for my students in a
  GIS
   course.
Everything works great apart for the life of me i cant get
  the
   hang of
formatting and specifically how to insert (automatically?)
  line
   breaks so
that its discrete lines and not a paragraph. i think one
  can
   use '\\' to
indicate a line break but since its a guidebook form
  there
   are almost no
paragraphs and most line are 1 liners, so it seems to me
  crazy
   to go over
hundred lines of text and attach a \\ at the end. What am i
   missing here?
   
i hope i made sense :) any help or documentation links
  would be
   really
appreciated!
   
I'm attaching a short example of my org file, note that
  where i
   want single
lines i add a empty space between lines but still in the
   exporter it
creates a paragraph out of these lines
   
  
   I think you are better off trying to do this with a
  specialised
   LaTeX
   class.  A quick search led me to this TeX.SX question:
   http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/3852.  You could also try
  using
   lists,
   just disable the bullets with an option in an #+attr_latex
  line.
  
  
   GL,
  
   --
   Suvayu
  
   Open source is the future. It sets us free.
  
 
 





Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-23 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:

 Thx again Eric

 i actually like using the example block but as you mentioned i think
 the text is cut at the end when you export it , is there anyway to
 make the exporter auto wrap lines inside example blocks?

I don't think it's cut, is it? I just tried with your example and long
lines are preserved as-is (ie, quite long).

What would you like it to look like, in the end?

E

 On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Eric Abrahamsen 
 e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote:

 Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:

  Thank you Eric and Rick!
 
  Eric:
  The #+OPTIONS: \n:nil didn't do much here even using the
 default
  templates for export as suggested

 Sorry! Got it backwards -- it's meant to be \n:t

 But still, other responders are probably right that what you want
 is
 actually a different kind of text type: a list or an example
 block.

 E

  Rick:
  i think i can live with the  #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE blocks , is there
 a way
  to define wrapping text in the block? as you said using the
 block
  currently cuts off text towards the lines end
 
  Appreciate all the help from everyone. thanks alot!
 
  z.
 
 
  On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Eric Abrahamsen 
  e...@ericabrahamsen.net wrote:
 
  Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:
 
   Thank you all
  
   I think `org-export-preserve-breaks' is the option you
 want. Try
   setting it in a single buffer with #+OPTIONS:\n:nil and see
 what
   happens...
  
   that sounds interesting, but i couldn't understand how to
 use it
   (again im still an org novice:) )
   do i stick this line at the start:
   #+OPTIONS:\n:nil
  
   is that ^^ syntax correct?
 
  Nearly correct -- we're the victim of unfortunate line
 wrapping. It
  should look like:
 
  #+OPTIONS: \n:nil
 
  Ie, with an extra space. If you're a novice, as you say, you
 might
  like
  to see the default options template for exporting. In your org
  buffer,
  hit C-c C-e to get to the export dispatcher, then hit #
 for
  template
  insertion, then pick default. It will be a lot easier to see
 and
  edit
  existing options than type them all in by hand.
 
  Yours,
  Eric
 
 
   On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Suvayu Ali 
   fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
  
       On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 09:55:12AM +0200, Xebar Saram
 wrote:
       
        I'm trying to write a simple guidebook for my students
 in a
  GIS
       course.
        Everything works great apart for the life of me i cant
 get
  the
       hang of
        formatting and specifically how to insert
 (automatically?)
  line
       breaks so
        that its discrete lines and not a paragraph. i think
 one
  can
       use '\\' to
        indicate a line break but since its a guidebook form
  there
       are almost no
        paragraphs and most line are 1 liners, so it seems to
 me
  crazy
       to go over
        hundred lines of text and attach a \\ at the end. What
 am i
       missing here?
       
        i hope i made sense :) any help or documentation links
  would be
       really
        appreciated!
       
        I'm attaching a short example of my org file, note
 that
  where i
       want single
        lines i add a empty space between lines but still in
 the
       exporter it
        creates a paragraph out of these lines
       
  
       I think you are better off trying to do this with a
  specialised
       LaTeX
       class.  A quick search led me to this TeX.SX question:
       http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/3852.  You could also
 try
  using
       lists,
       just disable the bullets with an option in an #
 +attr_latex
  line.
  
  
       GL,
  
       --
       Suvayu
  
       Open source is the future. It sets us free.
  
 
 






Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-23 Thread Glyn Millington
Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:

 Thx again Eric

 i actually like using the example block but as you mentioned i think the text 
 is cut at the end when you export it , is there anyway to
 make the exporter auto wrap lines inside example blocks?


Hi Xebar,

This does seem to be getting rather complicated.  Does the adapted
version of your file below give you the kind of result you want? It will
probably get munged in the sending

atb

Glyn



ex_l1.1.org
Description: Lotus Organizer


Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-23 Thread Xebar Saram
Thanks again guys

Rick: But a better approach would be to define your own latex list
environment for
program steps and use lists:

ive never used latex, do you mind expanding on that a bit?

Eric: I don't think it's cut, is it? I just tried with your example and
long
lines are preserved as-is (ie, quite long)
this is how it looks in my pdf export:

https://paste.xinu.at/sYsMVz/

i just want all the line to appear in the pdf and not get cut (that is have
it auto wrap when the like nears a paper edge)

Glyn: thx alot for the example. That does work but then i really hate
manually having to add the '-' at the start of each page and then also
indenting each line, is there a solution for that?

i really appreciate all the help, you guys are great help!

z.


On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Glyn Millington
glyn.milling...@gmail.comwrote:

 Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:

  Thx again Eric
 
  i actually like using the example block but as you mentioned i think the
 text is cut at the end when you export it , is there anyway to
  make the exporter auto wrap lines inside example blocks?


 Hi Xebar,

 This does seem to be getting rather complicated.  Does the adapted
 version of your file below give you the kind of result you want? It will
 probably get munged in the sending

 atb

 Glyn




Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-23 Thread Glyn Millington
Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:

 Glyn: thx alot for the example. That does work but then i really hate
 manually having to add the '-' at the start of each page and then also
 indenting each line, is there a solution for that?

My problem is that I know a little LaTeX and less lisp!  I would just do
this the hard way.  If I was driven to automate it slightly, then not
being aware of an org-mode solution I would use latex, like this.

1. Make a file, xebar-bullets.tex, which contains this latex snippet

\begin{itemize}
\item Start typing here 
\item This is the next item you can make these lines as long as you like!!
\item
\item
\item
\item
\item
\item
\item
\item
\item
\item
\item
\item
\item
\item
\end{itemize} 

save it somewhere safe, where you store templates etc

2. Write a function in your .emacs or init.el file like this


(defun xebar-bullets ()
This inserts the LaTeX \itemize environment into a document - LaTeX will
take care of the wrapping of each item for me
(interactive)
(insert-file-contents /home/xebar/templates/xebar-bullets.tex))

Save this. Evaluate it.


3. Add a key-binding, again in .emacs or init.el, to call this where you
want it.  s-d is the Super key plus d, or pick another - again evaluate
it.

(add-hook 'org-mode-hook
  (lambda ()
(local-set-key (kbd s-d) 'xebar-bullets)))

Then when you want to add a list of instructions as in your sample doc,
just hit s-d and start typing at the first item.  You can make the lines
as long as you like, and when you export, LaTeX will deal with 'em!  If
you need more items, just add them in.

I've spelled this out because you said you didn't know about LaTeX -
forgive me if it is more info than you need. 

atb

Glyn





Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-23 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:

 Thanks again guys

 Rick: But a better approach would be to define your own latex list
 environment for
 program steps and use lists:

 ive never used latex, do you mind expanding on that a bit?

 Eric: I don't think it's cut, is it? I just tried with your example
 and long
 lines are preserved as-is (ie, quite long)
 this is how it looks in my pdf export:

 https://paste.xinu.at/sYsMVz/

Oh I see -- it's latex that cuts those lines off, not the org exporter.
You'll probably want to go the list route then. See this link for how to
create a custom list environment:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/lyx/ownlists.htm

Then do this in org, replacing bogus with the name of your new environment:

#+ATTR_LATEX: :environment bogus
- this is a
- list with some
- items in it

Hope that gets you there!

Eric




[O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-22 Thread Xebar Saram
Hi all

i decided to dive into the deep water and get rid of M$ word once and for
all. I'm still an org novice but since i love org i choose org for the task.

I'm trying to write a simple guidebook for my students in a GIS course.
Everything works great apart for the life of me i cant get the hang of
formatting and specifically how to insert (automatically?) line breaks so
that its discrete lines and not a paragraph. i think one can use '\\' to
indicate a line break but since its a guidebook form there are almost no
paragraphs and most line are 1 liners, so it seems to me crazy to go over
hundred lines of text and attach a \\ at the end. What am i missing here?

i hope i made sense :) any help or documentation links would be really
appreciated!

I'm attaching a short example of my org file, note that where i want single
lines i add a empty space between lines but still in the exporter it
creates a paragraph out of these lines

thx alot

Z.


ex_l1.1.org
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Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-22 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi all

 i decided to dive into the deep water and get rid of M$ word once and
 for all. I'm still an org novice but since i love org i choose org
 for the task.

 I'm trying to write a simple guidebook for my students in a GIS
 course. Everything works great apart for the life of me i cant get
 the hang of formatting and specifically how to insert
 (automatically?) line breaks so that its discrete lines and not a
 paragraph. i think one can use '\\' to indicate a line break but
 since its a guidebook form there are almost no paragraphs and most
 line are 1 liners, so it seems to me crazy to go over hundred lines
 of text and attach a \\ at the end. What am i missing here?


Hi there,

I've never used this, but I think `org-export-preserve-breaks' is the
option you want. Try setting it in a single buffer with #+OPTIONS:
\n:nil and see what happens...

Eric




Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-22 Thread Glyn Millington
Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi all

 i decided to dive into the deep water and get rid of M$ word once and
 for all. I'm still an org novice but since i love org i choose org for
 the task.

 I'm trying to write a simple guidebook for my students in a GIS
 course. Everything works great apart for the life of me i cant get the
 hang of formatting and specifically how to insert (automatically?) line
 breaks so that its discrete lines and not a paragraph. i think one can
 use '\\' to indicate a line break but since its a guidebook form
 there are almost no paragraphs and most line are 1 liners, so it seems
 to me crazy to go over hundred lines of text and attach a \\ at the
 end. What am i missing here?


Hi there,

My quick fix for this was to save a macro and then bind it to a key. From
init.el


 Saved macros
;; Saved macro - adds latex end-lines to verse passages
(fset 'versify
  [?\C-a ?\C-e ?\\ ?\\ down])

(global-set-key (kbd s-v) 'versify)


I can fix a lot of lines very quickly with this :-)


atb




Glyn




Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-22 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 09:55:12AM +0200, Xebar Saram wrote:
 
 I'm trying to write a simple guidebook for my students in a GIS course.
 Everything works great apart for the life of me i cant get the hang of
 formatting and specifically how to insert (automatically?) line breaks so
 that its discrete lines and not a paragraph. i think one can use '\\' to
 indicate a line break but since its a guidebook form there are almost no
 paragraphs and most line are 1 liners, so it seems to me crazy to go over
 hundred lines of text and attach a \\ at the end. What am i missing here?
 
 i hope i made sense :) any help or documentation links would be really
 appreciated!
 
 I'm attaching a short example of my org file, note that where i want single
 lines i add a empty space between lines but still in the exporter it
 creates a paragraph out of these lines
 

I think you are better off trying to do this with a specialised LaTeX
class.  A quick search led me to this TeX.SX question:
http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/3852.  You could also try using lists,
just disable the bullets with an option in an #+attr_latex line.


GL,

-- 
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.



Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-22 Thread Xebar Saram
Thank you all

I think `org-export-preserve-breaks' is the option you want. Try setting
it in a single buffer with #+OPTIONS:\n:nil and see what happens...

that sounds interesting, but i couldn't understand how to use it (again im
still an org novice:) )
do i stick this line at the start:
#+OPTIONS:\n:nil

is that ^^ syntax correct?

best
Z


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 09:55:12AM +0200, Xebar Saram wrote:
 
  I'm trying to write a simple guidebook for my students in a GIS course.
  Everything works great apart for the life of me i cant get the hang of
  formatting and specifically how to insert (automatically?) line breaks so
  that its discrete lines and not a paragraph. i think one can use '\\' to
  indicate a line break but since its a guidebook form there are almost
 no
  paragraphs and most line are 1 liners, so it seems to me crazy to go over
  hundred lines of text and attach a \\ at the end. What am i missing here?
 
  i hope i made sense :) any help or documentation links would be really
  appreciated!
 
  I'm attaching a short example of my org file, note that where i want
 single
  lines i add a empty space between lines but still in the exporter it
  creates a paragraph out of these lines
 

 I think you are better off trying to do this with a specialised LaTeX
 class.  A quick search led me to this TeX.SX question:
 http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/3852.  You could also try using lists,
 just disable the bullets with an option in an #+attr_latex line.


 GL,

 --
 Suvayu

 Open source is the future. It sets us free.




Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-22 Thread Rick Frankel

On 2013-10-22 03:55, Xebar Saram wrote:

Hi all

i decided to dive into the deep water and get rid of M$ word once and
for all. I'm still an org novice but since i love org i choose org for
the task.

I'm trying to write a simple guidebook for my students in a GIS
course. Everything works great apart for the life of me i cant get the
hang of formatting and specifically how to insert (automatically?)
line breaks so that its discrete lines and not a paragraph. i think
one can use '\' to indicate a line break but since its a guidebook
form there are almost no paragraphs and most line are 1 liners, so
it seems to me crazy to go over hundred lines of text and attach a \
at the end. What am i missing here?


I think you are thinking about this in the wrong (microsoft word :)
way: format vs. semantic structure.


A series of steps should either be a list, or an example block. For
instance in your sample, try:


#+BEGIN_EXAMPLE
Right click on the table name in the TOC panel – Table of Contents and 
then chose Display XY data;

Define the X,Y coordinate and data (Z) fields;
Click Edit to define the coordinate system (use WGS84);
Click OK;
Right click on the event layer newly created, go to data-export 
data, specify a location and give the layer a name [remember: events 
are a temporary layer, unless you save it as a shape file, it will 
disappear and you will not be able to use it next time]; add it a s new 
layer to your project, when asked.

#+END_EXAMPLE

or (since the lines above are too long to fit w/o truncating or 
wrapping,


- Right click on the table name in the TOC panel – Table of Contents
and then chose Display XY data;
- Define the X,Y coordinate and data (Z) fields;
- Click Edit to define the coordinate system (use WGS84);
- Click OK;
- Right click on the event layer newly created, go to
data-export data, specify a location and give the layer a name
[remember: events are a temporary layer, unless you save it as a
shape file, it will disappear and you will not be able to use it
next time]; add it a s new layer to your project, when asked.

Think about the contents semantically (e.g., something is descriptive
text, or a series of steps, or a code example), instead of how you
think it should look and let org and latex may it look right.

rick




Re: [O] trying to write a guidebook for students using org , need help with formating

2013-10-22 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com writes:

 Thank you all

 I think `org-export-preserve-breaks' is the option you want. Try
 setting it in a single buffer with #+OPTIONS:\n:nil and see what
 happens...

 that sounds interesting, but i couldn't understand how to use it
 (again im still an org novice:) )
 do i stick this line at the start:
 #+OPTIONS:\n:nil

 is that ^^ syntax correct?

Nearly correct -- we're the victim of unfortunate line wrapping. It
should look like:

#+OPTIONS: \n:nil

Ie, with an extra space. If you're a novice, as you say, you might like
to see the default options template for exporting. In your org buffer,
hit C-c C-e to get to the export dispatcher, then hit # for template
insertion, then pick default. It will be a lot easier to see and edit
existing options than type them all in by hand.

Yours,
Eric


 On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Suvayu Ali 
 fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 09:55:12AM +0200, Xebar Saram wrote:
 
  I'm trying to write a simple guidebook for my students in a GIS
 course.
  Everything works great apart for the life of me i cant get the
 hang of
  formatting and specifically how to insert (automatically?) line
 breaks so
  that its discrete lines and not a paragraph. i think one can
 use '\\' to
  indicate a line break but since its a guidebook form there
 are almost no
  paragraphs and most line are 1 liners, so it seems to me crazy
 to go over
  hundred lines of text and attach a \\ at the end. What am i
 missing here?
 
  i hope i made sense :) any help or documentation links would be
 really
  appreciated!
 
  I'm attaching a short example of my org file, note that where i
 want single
  lines i add a empty space between lines but still in the
 exporter it
  creates a paragraph out of these lines
 

 I think you are better off trying to do this with a specialised
 LaTeX
 class.  A quick search led me to this TeX.SX question:
 http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/3852.  You could also try using
 lists,
 just disable the bullets with an option in an #+attr_latex line.


 GL,

 --
 Suvayu

 Open source is the future. It sets us free.